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4 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

My roommate works for the state in childcare licensing, and she told me that today's phone intake calls have almost all entirely been about kids testing positive or the employees at a center testing positive. 

I don't see why we should be concerned about creating a massive reservoir of carriers of a highly transmissible deadly virus.  You sound like a pussy libtard who hates America.

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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

So can somebody please explain to me how we got to ivermectin, a medication used almost exclusively to combat intestinal parasites in animals (mostly horses), being used as a prophylactic measure for COVID? My in-laws, who are otherwise smart and well-educated, were told by their voodoo/new age doctor to come get ivermectin pills from him after their housekeeper tested posted back in the spring. (They get cold laser treatment from this guy.) The one hygienist that hasn't had COVID or gotten vaccinated uses ivermectin in paste form. It's bizarre AF and I want to know how this came about.

I'll give you one guess:  They like to build football stadiums that look like a Krogers grocery store.

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Obviously bitching about my State, but could apply in most places.  Not only was the vaccine free, Oregon gave money to people to get it.  Like, there was a lottery and the grand prize winner got a million bucks.  A person from each county in Oregon won $10k.    All for just doing the goddamn right thing.  And yet:

 

I may post this every day--fuck each and anti-vaxxer out there.  Right in the goat ass!

 

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9 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

But at least my governor isn't an insane psychopath trying to actively kill me.

That you know of.

Abbott and DeSantis are like crackheads in an alley brandishing a knife. Gov. Kate could be the trustworthy person at your side, watching them. Then she shivs you in the kidney.

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1 minute ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

It works.  But sometimes I just want to weep.  Would also apply in an empathy situation.  I often 'like' some post that is a sad post as my way of saying "hang in there."  Feels strange at times.

 

I also find the fuck around and find out rep works in 90% of all situation 

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Live shot of Dan Patrick helping Greg Abbott at the Texas Capitol Building craft his response to county commissioners circumventing his banning mask mandates. Gotta protect those "phoney baloney" jobs and all.

 

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"I didn't get a death gurgle outta that guy!"

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6 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

SIAP - (CNN) FDA will authorize booster shots for immunocompromised within 48 hours. 

 

Seems to suggest boosters aren't a bad idea after all.  CDC is once again a trailing rather than leading indicator of best practices at a time when it should be at the front line.

 

 

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On 8/6/2021 at 11:14 AM, Beau Vine said:

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Q: Is it possible to look more like your name is Pressley Stutts?

A: No, it is not.

When this was posted a few days ago the name rang a bell but I figured he was some guy I saw on Fox News or something.  I now realize I know this guy when a girl that used to work for me posted on Facebook that he needs our thoughts and prayers.  He worked for me as a sales person about 16 years ago.  He was a navy chaplain turned sales guy or something like that.  I seem to recall I had some issues with him and my company wanted me to terminate his employment with us. I hate to say it but I have not sent my thoughts and prayers to him.  Oops.

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14 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

When this was posted a few days ago the name rang a bell but I figured he was some guy I saw on Fox News or something.  I now realize I know this guy when a girl that used to work for me posted on Facebook that he needs our thoughts and prayers.  He worked for me as a sales person about 16 years ago.  He was a navy chaplain turned sales guy or something like that.  I seem to recall I had some issues with him and my company wanted me to terminate his employment with us. I hate to say it but I have not sent my thoughts and prayers to him.  Oops.

Don’t worry, Covid followed up for you 

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Just now, Biff Tannen said:

Were the original shots authorized for immunocompromised?  My mom says they are not, hence her not getting one.

I believe there were immunocompromised who were not candidates, but most were eligible (and were some of the first vaccinated in the nation). But medical professionals would know better.

Here is a link for the change by the FDA:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fda-expected-to-authorize-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shots-for-some-immunocompromised-people-within-the-next-48-hours/ar-AANdafC

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4 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

I believe there were immunocompromised who were not candidates, but most were eligible (and were some of the first vaccinated in the nation). But medical professionals would know better.

Here is a link for the change by the FDA:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fda-expected-to-authorize-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shots-for-some-immunocompromised-people-within-the-next-48-hours/ar-AANdafC

 

 

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A recent study by Johns Hopkins researchers found that vaccinated immunocompromised people are 485 times more likely to end up in the hospital or die from Covid-19 compared to the general population that is vaccinated.

Based on an estimate by the CDC, about 9 million Americans are immunocompromised, either because of diseases they have or medications they take.

It has been known for months that Covid-19 vaccines might not work well for this group. The hope was that vaccination rates overall would be so high so that the "herd" would protect them.

But it didn't work out that way, because about a third of eligible people in the US have not received even one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine.

 

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Courtesy of some of the more, um, enlightened on my wife's  Facebook.  She won't quit Facebook, because it's become too entertaining (or sad, depending on the day).  Not only that, the person who posted this shared her iPhone contact she had made for this doctor:

 

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5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Courtesy of some of the more, um, enlightened on my wife's  Facebook.  She won't quit Facebook, because it's become too entertaining (or sad, depending on the day).  Not only that, the person who posted this shared her iPhone contact she had made for this doctor:

 

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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

Clay Jenkins has instated a mask mandate for Dallas County effective at midnight tonight. Set to expire on 8/24.

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https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/dallas-county-judge-to-issue-emergency-order-challenging-abbotts-ban-on-mask-mandates/2715756/

 

I know you know it, but it's such irony that the "champions of local rule" are being smacked in the nose by this constituency.

These local men and women are getting the latest information later than your national boys and likely later than the governor. They see serious shit that the hear-and-see-no-evil (they damn sure speak it, though) leaders of the GQP Death Cult tries to sit on.

Local government including school boards see the astoundingly large writing on the wall. We're looking at a more dangerous plague that has likely (according a virologist on CNN) already spawned other variants of unknown lethality.

State government is the last ditch of the traitors as they desperately cling to power. This mutiny by local government is an unforeseen ally to the republic. Local GOPs and Dems would just as soon not see the young and the very young killed and possibly maimed by the disease. These local guys don't get the big dollars that the big boys in DC or Austin get.

Local guys are like unpaid interns at the Soylent Corporation. Thanks but no thanks to the office and perqs if it means being party to murder.

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I find this heartening. Somebody in government other than Dems in DC is actually doing something. Local yokels show up to stamp their feet and promise God's punishment, but the local magistrates and medical establishment won't be stopped.

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This is a heroic tale. We'll see if it's the Alamo or San Jacinto.

 

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Los Angeles took a step Wednesday toward requiring people to have at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine before venturing into indoor restaurants, bars, gyms, shops, movie theaters and other venues.

The City Council voted to direct city attorneys to draft the law, though much of the plan remains to be worked out, including precisely where it would apply and how the new rules would be enforced.

Once the ordinance is drafted, it goes back to the City Council for final approval.

“You not being vaccinated actually impacts the health of everyone else,” said Council President Nury Martinez, “so [the] argument that you have the right to not access the vaccine or get vaccinated just doesn’t work anymore.”

The proposal was announced last week by Martinez and Councilman Mitch O’Farrell, who argued that it would protect people in public places as COVID-19 cases surged.

Although characterizing the move as an effort to protect general public health, O’Farrell said it was “not a vaccine mandate.”

“We’re not going to tell someone, anyone, that they have to get vaccinated,” he said. “We’re also not going to deny anyone the ability to access essentials — food, medicine, etc. — regardless of vaccination. That wouldn’t be legal, that wouldn’t be moral. But what is immoral is choosing not to get vaccinated, choosing to listen to some delusional rant on Twitter. This is real life. Vaccines work.”

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As part of their 13-0 vote, council members directed city staff to gather input from businesses and business groups on what specific types of public spaces should ultimately be included in the draft ordinance, and also to meet with parents, teachers, pediatricians and child-care providers to discuss how best to protect children under the age of 12, who remain ineligible to receive the vaccine.

 

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Jot Condie, president and CEO of the California Restaurant Assn., said in a statement that “if asking patrons for proof of vaccination in indoor public spaces can help us all avoid more shutdowns, massive layoffs, and operating limits, then we will do everything we reasonably can to assist” the effort.

The L.A. Area Chamber of Commerce said business input would be crucial to rolling out any such mandate.

United Food and Commercial Workers Local 770, which represents more than 30,000 workers, including grocery store employees, welcomed the measure, saying its members had endured high rates of COVID-19 infection, “anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers, lack of on-site testing and social distancing, poor contact tracing” and other threats.

It urged the city to make sure that the ordinance included a trained “health and safety officer” for each retail site.

“It is impossible for retail workers to maintain the store inside and enforce the vaccine requirement outside,” union President John M. Grant wrote in a letter to council members. “Too often companies push the burden of enforcement onto their employees, who are already understaffed.”

Some opponents wrote to council members denouncing the plan as overreaching, including people who dismissed the COVID-19 pandemic as a hoax or argued that the vaccines were harmful. Many raised concerns about the emergency authorization for the shots or argued that breakthrough infections undermined the case for vaccines.

“What you are proposing is just a way to punish people who aren’t vaccinated,” one letter writer argued. “This is absolutely unscientific and unnecessary.”

Council members, however, pointed out that the personal decision to get vaccinated could ripple far beyond the person making that choice.

“We live in a society. And in a society, people have to help other people,” said Councilman Paul Krekorian. “And it’s just beyond me that this emphasis on personal rights and liberties somehow now trumps, excuse the pun, every obligation of citizenship and obligation of society and concern about protecting the lives of our fellow Americans.”

 

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11 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

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Gee, does she make more money if a group of American senators tell people everything's fine? 

This makes the virus take hold. Half the population gets shots.

Virus stays alive.

More shots. 

Virus never dies.

Infinite shots.

Profit.

Stake 'em out on a rocky shore and let the crabs have 'em.

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Courtesy of some of the more, um, enlightened on my wife's  Facebook.  She won't quit Facebook, because it's become too entertaining (or sad, depending on the day).  Not only that, the person who posted this shared her iPhone contact she had made for this doctor:

 

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I wonder if they can treat bofa.

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

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Gee, does she make more money if a group of American senators tell people everything's fine? 

This makes the virus take hold. Half the population gets shots.

Virus stays alive.

More shots. 

Virus never dies.

Infinite shots.

Profit.

Stake 'em out on a rocky shore and let the crabs have 'em.

Glad you got it before "something went wrong" with the tweet.

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

 

 

No wai, the horsey apple paste no work?

Note for average 300# aggy that doesn't believe in science and math, this is approximately one half tube of apple flavored horse dewormer PO daily. Enjoy.  Bioavailability via rectal administration less clear, so if I was you I would just squeeze two tubes up your ass daily to be on the safe side. 

Mills said that his team’s Ivermectin trial was altered after advocacy groups complained that it was too modest to achieve the results they expected. The trial originally tested the results from a single Ivermectin dose in January this year, but was later changed to involve one daily dose for three days of 400 micrograms of the drug for every kilogram (about 2.2 pounds) of the patients’ weight, up to 90 kilograms.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

No wai, the horsey apple paste no work?

Note for average 300# aggy that doesn't believe in science and math, this is approximately one half tube of apple flavored horse dewormer PO daily. Enjoy.  Bioavailability via rectal administration less clear, so if I was you I would just squeeze two tubes up your ass daily to be on the safe side. 

Mills said that his team’s Ivermectin trial was altered after advocacy groups complained that it was too modest to achieve the results they expected. The trial originally tested the results from a single Ivermectin dose in January this year, but was later changed to involve one daily dose for three days of 400 micrograms of the drug for every kilogram (about 2.2 pounds) of the patients’ weight, up to 90 kilograms.

 

 

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'll give you one guess:  They like to build football stadiums that look like a Krogers grocery store.

They are working on a new theory that if you play "Sandstorm" loud enough the virus will collapse. 

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

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Gee, does she make more money if a group of American senators tell people everything's fine? 

This makes the virus take hold. Half the population gets shots.

Virus stays alive.

More shots. 

Virus never dies.

Infinite shots.

Profit.

Stake 'em out on a rocky shore and let the crabs have 'em.

I was told by trumpfuck coworkers that it was still the Clintons doing this. Wow shocked 

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I feel really awful for anyone of you who are facing the dilemma of sending your unvaccinated children to school in the next couple of weeks. 

Texas Hospitals Are Already Overloaded. Doctors Are ‘Frightened by What Is Coming.’
Across Texas, health officials warned of a growing crisis not seen in months, with more than 10,000 Texans hospitalized and intensive care units stretched thin.

Aug. 11, 2021
Updated 7:21 p.m. ET
SAN ANTONIO — At least two hospitals in Houston have been so overwhelmed with coronavirus patients this week that officials erected overflow tents outside. In Austin, hospitals were nearly out of beds in their intensive care units. And in San Antonio, a spike in virus cases reached alarming levels not seen in months, with children as young as 2 months old tethered to supplemental oxygen.

Across Texas, health officials warned of overloaded, strained hospitals, a growing crisis not seen since early February, when a late winter wave deluged the state’s health care system. More than 10,000 Texans have been hospitalized this week and at least 53 hospitals were at maximum capacity in their intensive care units.

“If this continues, and I have no reason to believe that it will not, there is no way my hospital is going to be able to handle this. There is no way the region is going to be able to handle this,” Dr. Esmaeil Porsa, a top health official in Harris County, which includes Houston, told state legislators on Tuesday. “I am one of those people that always sees the glass half-full, I always see the silver lining. But I am frightened by what is coming.”

In recent days, Texas has averaged about 12,400 new cases a day, nearly double the number seen just two weeks ago, according to a New York Times database. The spike comes as about one in five U.S. hospitals with intensive care units, or 583 total hospitals, recently reported that at least 95 percent of their I.C.U. beds were full. One worry about the highly contagious Delta variant, which has fueled surges across the country, is whether it might test the capacity of health systems.

Hospitals in New Orleans, Jackson, Miss., Miami and Huntsville, Ala., have been taxed this week, too, as cases continue to rise in those regions and elsewhere across the South. Texas is among several states grappling with dangerous surges exacerbated by the Delta variant, which the White House recently said was as contagious as the chickenpox.

Earlier this summer, cases skyrocketed in Florida, Louisiana and Arkansas. As in those states, the vast majority of patients hospitalized in Texas are not vaccinated, state officials said.

The sudden increase of infections has refocused national attention on the efficacy of masks and comes as the state’s governor, Greg Abbott, remains firm in his refusal to enact any statewide mandates requiring masks while also prohibiting local officials from doing so in their own communities. To help manage the surge, Mr. Abbott appealed this week to health care workers outside the state to travel to Texas and help the overloaded hospitals.

The number of coronavirus-related hospitalizations across the state is projected to climb to well over 15,000 by the end of August, according to the University of Texas at Austin’s Covid-19 model consortium.

“The fact that we’re having to construct the tents shows that the system in general is not prepared,” said Amanda Callaway, associate administrator for Harris Health System, which oversees the two hospitals in the Houston area requiring overflow space. “There’s lots of concern. There’s only so much you can do, only so many rooms. We’re just trying to respond as fast as we can.”

Aside from the tents, doctors are also treating patients in waiting rooms because of a shortage of beds, she said, adding that at least 90 percent of the coronavirus patients are unvaccinated.

Dr. David Persse, Houston’s chief medical officer, blamed inadequate attention by state officials to highlight the importance and necessity of vaccinations to stem the surge, with Mr. Abbott framing it as an issue of individual rights. “It’s the wrong approach,” Dr. Persse said. “The rhetoric around this has been such that people adhering to their right to make their own decisions are endangering themselves and their families.”

Mr. Abbott, like governors in Florida and elsewhere across the South, maintained his position even after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reversed course and recommended that both vaccinated and unvaccinated people wear masks indoors in high-risk areas. He issued an executive order prohibiting local governments from mandating vaccines and prohibiting school districts from enforcing masks.

Still, local officials in some of Texas’ largest cities, including San Antonio, Houston, Dallas and Austin, have defied Mr. Abbott’s orders and issued new mask requirements in city buildings and schools, citing the unfettered spread of the virus and still too-low vaccination rates. In Texas, about 56 percent of those 18 and older are fully inoculated.

According to the Texas Department of State Health Services, just shy of 240 Texas children were hospitalized on Tuesday with the coronavirus. Citing those figures, President Biden on Wednesday told reporters that he was exploring whether the federal government has the authority to intervene in state mandates issued by Mr. Abbott.

Over the weekend, the authorities in the State Capitol of Austin warned residents of a “dire” situation in the city, with hospitals so overrun with patients that they were short of both staff and resources to care for the sick.

Earlier this week, the resurgence was playing out in unnerving ways at the Children’s Hospital of San Antonio, where a growing number of children were being admitted with severe symptoms of Covid-19, including high fevers, chills, coughs and shortness of breath. Many others arriving for unrelated illnesses were also testing positive for the virus, hospital officials said.

The Delta variant and other respiratory infections were to blame for the crowded ward, with up to 15 Covid patients on any given day, said Dr. Norman Christopher, the chief medical officer at the hospital.

“We are now entering a new phase where our volumes are increasing much more exponentially here just like on the adult side,” Dr. Christopher said. “And that’s compared to almost nobody just a few months ago.”

Dr. Abhishek Patel, who works in the hospital’s pediatric I.C.U., walked in and out of a room where a 6-month-old and a 2-month-old were battling severe Covid-19 infections and were breathing with the aid of supplemental oxygen. This week alone, he said, two teenagers, who had other underlying health problems, succumbed to the virus.

In a room nearby, Cerena Gonzales, 14, moaned in pain. Last week, she was an excited teenager looking forward to starting her freshman year in high school. On Tuesday, she was surrounded by hospital equipment. She and her younger sister got sick after their parents, Carlos Gonzales, 47, and his wife Elizabeth, 42, began developing Covid symptoms and were taken to the hospital. None of them had been vaccinated, Ms. Gonzales said.

“We hesitated,” Ms. Gonzales said. “We were all a healthy family.”

As soon as she was discharged, Ms. Gonzales, still breathing with the aid of two portable oxygen tanks, rushed to her daughter’s side. She caressed her daughter’s forehead and tried to keep her upbeat. She recalled in tears the harrowing scene days earlier when doctors put her on a speakerphone so that she could hear as her daughter was intubated. “I thought I was going to lose my mind,” Ms. Gonzales said. “I could not be there with her.”

By Tuesday afternoon, Ms. Gonzales said she believed the worst of the crisis was over. She untangled her daughter’s thick black hair from IV tubes and gently encouraged her to drink orange juice.

Several members of her family had been ravaged by the virus, she said, and so she now plans to organize a family excursion to get vaccinated. “There is no reason any parent should go through this,” she said.

Nearby, Anne Marie Baker, a pediatric nurse, had the grim task of cleaning a room where just moments earlier a teenager had died from the virus. Ms. Baker took off her masks and slumped into a chair to catch her breath. Children under 12, who do not yet qualify for a vaccine, are most at risk, she said.

“In the last two months, we just had all of these patients,” she said. “It’s just so sad.”

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