CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[Longhorn_Fan68 33947]

6 minutes ago, Bookman said:

So if we get Covid are we supposed to go on a carb-free diet?

crab free - huge misconception

[PsychMike 1552]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

I say fuck it. Get them all at once and really teach your immune system how to kick ass and take names. 

Better listen to him, he's in Pre-Med!

[Bozo_Casanova 26688]

25 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Easiest and smartest business decision you can ever make.  Fish symbol, "XYZ Plumbing is a Christian-owned business," any variation of that shit.....run away as fast as you can.  The comic strip captured it pretty accurately:

 

I'm stealing this

[Bozo_Casanova 26688]

2 hours ago, Post Oak said:

Waco Mayor held a PC today. Said hospitals are on the brink of collapse and morgue are overflowing. 

So we've got that going for us which is nice.  

that AND a Whole Foods coming soon. 

[Degenerate Gardner 4104]

29 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Easiest and smartest business decision you can ever make.  Fish symbol, "XYZ Plumbing is a Christian-owned business," any variation of that shit.....run away as fast as you can.  The comic strip captured it pretty accurately:

 

Jesus fish are the original virtue signaling.

I follow your same strategy with contractors. Faith should be evident or you’re doing it wrong.

 

[Guest Lobo]

I didn't mean to, I was just young and hungry; but shortly after we got married and I joined my wife's Catholic church, I told a guy we were chatting with after mass that he could call me if he wanted to talk about investing (I think I gave him my card).  

My wife told me after they walked away that it's in really poor taste to pitch business at church in Catholicism.  I felt kinda bad about it.  Then I looked at the back page of the bulletin in my hand and it was all parishioners' business names and logos.  And so, like a dick, I asked her on the way home..."Sorry about pitching that guy, but what about all these people soliciting business at church with the bulletin?"  And with no sense of irony, she said, "That's different sweetheart.  Those people have to pay to get to do that." 

15 years and how many hundreds of masses at that church later........I still have no fucking idea how these people justify this shit.  

[Beau Vine 54928]

51 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Your mother said the translation was Lobo Longpole.  Helluva good cook though.  

How was the sammich?

[Guest Lobo]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

How was the sammich?

Meh, a little saucy. Little saucy.  

I'll still take desert though.  Maybe a decaf?  

[27-25 2060]

59 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

COVID is especially tough on obese people. Obese people like their sugar. Therefore COVID likes sugar. Any fool can see the correlation there.

And now some people want to push sweet tea on us?  I smell a conspiracy!

[Sawbonz 27791]

9 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

[DDD Dad 14376]

21 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

that AND a Whole Foods coming soon. 

[AnotherUTFan 9829]

Waco Mayor held a PC today. Said hospitals are on the brink of collapse and morgue are overflowing. 
So we've got that going for us which is nice.  

I have family in Waco, most unvaxinated. Its infuriating. This was sent to me today by another family member who is equally frustrated.



They've now got refrigerator trucks in Waco, TX to store all the bodies. Maybe they should just refrigerate the silos.

[Francisco 2.0 32437]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/like-tuskegee-deep-south-jail-treats-covid-with-drug-fda-says-is-dangerous

 

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The head doctor at an Arkansas jail has been treating inmates suffering from COVID-19 with ivermectin, a drug commonly used to treat parasites in animals. A version of the same drug has been approved by the FDA for topical diseases in humans, but warned against by the agency as completely unproven—and downright dangerous—in treating the coronavirus.

Still, the drug has been prematurely and widely hyped by conservatives and far-right types—some of whom oppose vaccines—as a sort of latter-day pandemic miracle drug. As The Daily Beast reported, this recently set off a wave of disturbing prescriptions and even calls to poison-control centers, in some cases over people who apparently took the “horse paste” version of the drug intended for animals.

 

 

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Eva Madison, a Justice of the Peace in Washington County, told The Daily Beast she found out about the treatments of the inmates on Tuesday, which were first reported by the Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette.

According to Madison, a county employee had been sent to the jail to get a COVID test, which turned out to be negative. Nonetheless, Robert Karas, a doctor who has overseen treatment and testing of inmates throughout the pandemic, allegedly prescribed the employee with 50 tablets of ivermectin, with a recommended dosage of 10 tablets per day. The pharmacy where the prescription was sent, Live + Well Pharmacy, confirmed to The Daily Beast that Karas has been filling out prescriptions there for ivermectin for both inmates and other patients.

 

 

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Karas did not immediately respond to a request for comment for this story.

According to Madison, the county employee instead told his primary care physician about the prescription and his doctor told him to “throw it in the trash.”

Madison said she is concerned that the more than 600 inmates rotating in and out of the Washington County Detention Center don’t have the same ability to get a second opinion or question the treatment they’re given. “Our inmates do not have that choice,” she said.

 

Spoiler

Madison said she brought the issue up to Washington County Sheriff Tim Helder on Tuesday, who she said she’d always had a good relationship with. She expected Helder to handle the situation or at least express concern. But instead, she said, he defended Karas.

“I was shocked,” Madison told The Daily Beast.

A spokeswoman for Helder initially declined to answer questions about the treatment or when it began to be used on inmates. “Dr. Karas with Karas Correctional Health is the medical provider contracted to care for the needs of the detainees, so I will have to refer you to him,” she told The Daily Beast. 

Later, the spokeswoman told The Daily Beast that Helder only learned about Karas treating inmates who had tested positive for COVID with ivermectin on Tuesday afternoon. The Democrat Gazette reportedHelder was informed about the use of ivermectin on inmates in July by Karas, but the spokeswoman said that was incorrect. 

Madison said she spoke to Karas directly about the treatment on Tuesday, but that the doctor seemed unmoved and told her that he and members of his family have been taking the treatment to prevent against COVID. When questioned about the fact that the FDA has been adamant in warning against the use of the drug for COVID treatment, she said Karas cited a National Institutes of Health study to make his case.

But when Madison said she pointed out that the NIH concluded in a February report that there was “insufficient evidence” to recommend for or against the use of the drug for COVID treatment, Karas cited a web page published by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance that purports to contain the “scientific rationale that justifies the use of ivermectin in COVID-19.”

According to The Scientist, the FLCCC wrote a paper arguing the benefits of ivermectin as a treatment that had been provisionally accepted and posted by the journal Frontiers in Pharmacology in January. However, by March, the paper was rejected and removed because editors found that it contained unsubstantiated claims. Nonetheless, the outlet reported, the paper had been widely viewed and shared by that point.

“So you take a website over the FDA?” Madison said of Karas’ defense. “It was just bizarre.”

Last week, the FDA tweeted out a page with information about ivermectin, mentioning that they had received multiple reports of patients requiring medical support and getting hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for use on horses. The information they release said the drug, even when prescribed to humans to treat skin conditions or lice, is not an antiviral drug.

“Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm,” the FDA said.

At a county budget meeting on Tuesday evening, in which representatives from the Sheriff’s Office were requesting a larger budget for the next year—including a 10 percent increase in the budget for Karas and his staff to bring the total to over $1.5 million—Madison brought up the information she’d learned about the treatment.

But representatives from the Sheriff’s Office during the budget meeting defended Karas and his team, saying they’d been “fantastic” throughout the pandemic. Sheriff Helder later spoke to the board in their defense, too, calling them “amazing partners.”

“Whatever a doctor prescribes, that is not in my bailiwick,” he said, discussing the ivermectin treatments. “I haven’t been to medical school.”

Nonetheless, he said he believed that whatever Karas’ team had been doing was working. “As far as our morbidity rate,” he said, “it is zero.” He said that out of over 500 people infected in the detention center, only one was hospitalized for a brief stint. “I will stack their record against any medical provider in a correctional institution anywhere in the United States,” Helder added.

Clint Schnekloth, the pastor of Good Shepherd Lutheran Church, Fayetteville, said he learned about the treatments from his followers on Facebook who sent him screenshots of Karas allegedly defending the treatment. Schnekloth then posted the images on his page, he said, to expose the doctor.

According to the screenshots, Karas pushed back about the lack of studies showing the drug’s effectiveness: “I got experience and don’t really need more studies.” He also suggested that he may have treated as many as 350 patients at the jail with ivermectin.

Schnekloth said that although he believes taking ivermectin when it isn’t approved is “dumb,” he also believes people who aren’t in jail have the ability to make their own medical choices. But he said the one doctor prescribing experimental drugs to a jail population that doesn’t have those same liberties is entirely different.

“That starts to look like Tuskegee,” he said. “I have a lot of moral concerns about that.”

“He’s got all this control over people, unilaterally,” he said.

The pastor added that he’d be fine with inmates taking the treatment if they had access to other options, too, or if they’d requested it personally. “I don’t know that prisoners have that same ability to be informed. They probably feel some pressure.”

Anna Hively, a technician at the pharmacy in Lowell, Arkansas, told The Daily Beast Karas works closely with the pharmacy and confirmed that he sends prescriptions of ivermectin to be filled there.

“There’s no incentive or anything like that he gets from the prescriptions,” she said, adding that Karas’ prescriptions of ivermectin often vary depending on weight and whether someone has tested positive or not.

She also said he has been prescribing a “preventative” dose for people who are not COVID-19 positive.

Lawrence Gostin, director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown University and the World Health Organization’s Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law, told The Daily Beast he was alarmed by the treatments being prescribed. 

“It’s very dangerous to treat somebody with a drug that isn’t approved for the use that you’re treating the person for,” he said. Since the pandemic began, Gostin said, the medical community has dealt with “bogus treatments” that have caused real harm and “raised false hopes” with no evidence that they’re effective.

But he said the use of ivermectin on inmates was particularly egregious and bordered on negligence. “Prisoners have no choice. They’re not free to choose their own doctors and make decisions about their own treatments,” he said. 

Holly Dickson, executive director of the ACLU of Arkansas, called the treatment “medical experimentation” in a statement on Wednesday. 

Dickson added that the use of the treatment by the detention center “illustrates the larger systemic problem of mistreatment of detainees and over incarceration in Arkansas that has persisted—even in the midst of a pandemic.”

 

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19454]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/like-tuskegee-deep-south-jail-treats-covid-with-drug-fda-says-is-dangerous
 

The head doctor at an Arkansas jail has been treating inmates suffering from COVID-19 with ivermectin, a drug commonly used to treat parasites in animals. A version of the same drug has been approved by the FDA for topical diseases in humans, but warned against by the agency as completely unproven—and downright dangerous—in treating the coronavirus.
Still, the drug has been prematurely and widely hyped by conservatives and far-right types—some of whom oppose vaccines—as a sort of latter-day pandemic miracle drug. As The Daily Beast reported, this recently set off a wave of disturbing prescriptions and even calls to poison-control centers, in some cases over people who apparently took the “horse paste” version of the drug intended for animals.

 
 

Eva Madison, a Justice of the Peace in Washington County, told The Daily Beast she found out about the treatments of the inmates on Tuesday, which were first reported by the Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette.
According to Madison, a county employee had been sent to the jail to get a COVID test, which turned out to be negative. Nonetheless, Robert Karas, a doctor who has overseen treatment and testing of inmates throughout the pandemic, allegedly prescribed the employee with 50 tablets of ivermectin, with a recommended dosage of 10 tablets per day. The pharmacy where the prescription was sent, Live + Well Pharmacy, confirmed to The Daily Beast that Karas has been filling out prescriptions there for ivermectin for both inmates and other patients.

 
 

Karas did not immediately respond to a request for comment for this story.
According to Madison, the county employee instead told his primary care physician about the prescription and his doctor told him to “throw it in the trash.”
Madison said she is concerned that the more than 600 inmates rotating in and out of the Washington County Detention Center don’t have the same ability to get a second opinion or question the treatment they’re given. “Our inmates do not have that choice,” she said.

 
Spoiler

Madison said she brought the issue up to Washington County Sheriff Tim Helder on Tuesday, who she said she’d always had a good relationship with. She expected Helder to handle the situation or at least express concern. But instead, she said, he defended Karas.
“I was shocked,” Madison told The Daily Beast.
A spokeswoman for Helder initially declined to answer questions about the treatment or when it began to be used on inmates. “Dr. Karas with Karas Correctional Health is the medical provider contracted to care for the needs of the detainees, so I will have to refer you to him,” she told The Daily Beast. 
Later, the spokeswoman told The Daily Beast that Helder only learned about Karas treating inmates who had tested positive for COVID with ivermectin on Tuesday afternoon. The Democrat Gazette reportedHelder was informed about the use of ivermectin on inmates in July by Karas, but the spokeswoman said that was incorrect. 
Madison said she spoke to Karas directly about the treatment on Tuesday, but that the doctor seemed unmoved and told her that he and members of his family have been taking the treatment to prevent against COVID. When questioned about the fact that the FDA has been adamant in warning against the use of the drug for COVID treatment, she said Karas cited a National Institutes of Health study to make his case.
But when Madison said she pointed out that the NIH concluded in a February report that there was “insufficient evidence” to recommend for or against the use of the drug for COVID treatment, Karas cited a web page published by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance that purports to contain the “scientific rationale that justifies the use of ivermectin in COVID-19.”
According to The Scientist, the FLCCC wrote a paper arguing the benefits of ivermectin as a treatment that had been provisionally accepted and posted by the journal Frontiers in Pharmacology in January. However, by March, the paper was rejected and removed because editors found that it contained unsubstantiated claims. Nonetheless, the outlet reported, the paper had been widely viewed and shared by that point.
“So you take a website over the FDA?” Madison said of Karas’ defense. “It was just bizarre.”

Last week, the FDA tweeted out a page with information about ivermectin, mentioning that they had received multiple reports of patients requiring medical support and getting hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for use on horses. The information they release said the drug, even when prescribed to humans to treat skin conditions or lice, is not an antiviral drug.
“Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm,” the FDA said.
At a county budget meeting on Tuesday evening, in which representatives from the Sheriff’s Office were requesting a larger budget for the next year—including a 10 percent increase in the budget for Karas and his staff to bring the total to over $1.5 million—Madison brought up the information she’d learned about the treatment.
But representatives from the Sheriff’s Office during the budget meeting defended Karas and his team, saying they’d been “fantastic” throughout the pandemic. Sheriff Helder later spoke to the board in their defense, too, calling them “amazing partners.”
“Whatever a doctor prescribes, that is not in my bailiwick,” he said, discussing the ivermectin treatments. “I haven’t been to medical school.”
Nonetheless, he said he believed that whatever Karas’ team had been doing was working. “As far as our morbidity rate,” he said, “it is zero.” He said that out of over 500 people infected in the detention center, only one was hospitalized for a brief stint. “I will stack their record against any medical provider in a correctional institution anywhere in the United States,” Helder added.
Clint Schnekloth, the pastor of Good Shepherd Lutheran Church, Fayetteville, said he learned about the treatments from his followers on Facebook who sent him screenshots of Karas allegedly defending the treatment. Schnekloth then posted the images on his page, he said, to expose the doctor.
According to the screenshots, Karas pushed back about the lack of studies showing the drug’s effectiveness: “I got experience and don’t really need more studies.” He also suggested that he may have treated as many as 350 patients at the jail with ivermectin.
Schnekloth said that although he believes taking ivermectin when it isn’t approved is “dumb,” he also believes people who aren’t in jail have the ability to make their own medical choices. But he said the one doctor prescribing experimental drugs to a jail population that doesn’t have those same liberties is entirely different.
“That starts to look like Tuskegee,” he said. “I have a lot of moral concerns about that.”
“He’s got all this control over people, unilaterally,” he said.
The pastor added that he’d be fine with inmates taking the treatment if they had access to other options, too, or if they’d requested it personally. “I don’t know that prisoners have that same ability to be informed. They probably feel some pressure.”
Anna Hively, a technician at the pharmacy in Lowell, Arkansas, told The Daily Beast Karas works closely with the pharmacy and confirmed that he sends prescriptions of ivermectin to be filled there.
“There’s no incentive or anything like that he gets from the prescriptions,” she said, adding that Karas’ prescriptions of ivermectin often vary depending on weight and whether someone has tested positive or not.
She also said he has been prescribing a “preventative” dose for people who are not COVID-19 positive.
Lawrence Gostin, director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown University and the World Health Organization’s Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law, told The Daily Beast he was alarmed by the treatments being prescribed. 
“It’s very dangerous to treat somebody with a drug that isn’t approved for the use that you’re treating the person for,” he said. Since the pandemic began, Gostin said, the medical community has dealt with “bogus treatments” that have caused real harm and “raised false hopes” with no evidence that they’re effective.
But he said the use of ivermectin on inmates was particularly egregious and bordered on negligence. “Prisoners have no choice. They’re not free to choose their own doctors and make decisions about their own treatments,” he said. 
Holly Dickson, executive director of the ACLU of Arkansas, called the treatment “medical experimentation” in a statement on Wednesday. 
Dickson added that the use of the treatment by the detention center “illustrates the larger systemic problem of mistreatment of detainees and over incarceration in Arkansas that has persisted—even in the midst of a pandemic.”
 

 


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[Sawbonz 27791]

3 hours ago, lmao said:

^Can someone answer this post without insults? Can you spread the virus if you've been vaccinated, have antibodies from prior infection, or if you have both? I have antibodies + I've been vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html

• If you are fully vaccinated and become infected with the Delta variant, you can spread the virus to others.

So Sturgis is a superspreader event yet Lollapalooza wasn't a superspreader event. Please ELI5 the logic in this.

If 90+% of people at an event are vaccinated, only a tiny fraction of them are likely to be infected. Yes those few are infectious. Early reports are they are less infectious than unvaccinated who are covid infected, but for argument’s sake let’s say they are equally infectious. The people around them whom they expose, being vaccinated as well, have a very small chance of contracting the virus. 
 

Contrast that with almost no one vaccinated. The numbers for Lollapalooza were right there in the story you linked
 

This shit is not difficult. If you passed 9th grade Health class you should get it

 

 

[Bookman 4728]

6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If 90+% of people at an event are vaccinated, only a tiny fraction of them are likely to be infected. Yes those few are infectious. Early reports are they are less infectious than unvaccinated who are covid infected, but for argument’s sake let’s say they are equally infectious. The people around them whom they expose, being vaccinated as well, have a very small chance of contracting the virus. 
 

Contrast that with almost no one vaccinated. The numbers for Lollapalooza were right there in the story you linked
 

This shit is not difficult. If you passed 9th grade Health class you should get it

 

 

He's just fucking with you. He asks the same stupid questions over and over.

[Brisketexan 105617]

28 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I have family in Waco, most unvaxinated. Its infuriating. This was sent to me today by another family member who is equally frustrated.



They've now got refrigerator trucks in Waco, TX to store all the bodies. Maybe they should just refrigerate the silos.

Sorry, they are not refrigerator trucks.  They are FREEDOM FRIDGES.  We need them because we are so freedom, much patriot flag eagle gun!

[cactusflinthead 27615]

Shedding intestinal lining?

Oh there's more. So much more

[Anastasis 23514]

6 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Shedding intestinal lining?

Oh there's more. So much more

 

On the bright side, probably get a nice side benefit of reducing parasitic infection in rural America.

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

8 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Shedding intestinal lining?

Oh there's more. So much more

While the comment regarding 'being born with hooves' is inaccurate since a nursing baby is already born, it does make me wonder when someone is going to get the *checks notes* notion that ingesting Boudreaux's Butt Paste will work if you run out of dewormer.

[jimmyjazz 46492]

Jesus Christ.  The guy is shedding parts of his bowel and he's like "huh, that's weird".

 

[Born to Run 6589]

I never purchase goods or services from any company with the fish symbol in their advertising. 

Yep I learned the hard way with a painter once. They set up drop clothes and everything, took a draw for materials and hauled as soon as I left.

[pyrohornIII 4841]

On 8/24/2021 at 9:14 AM, Mrs Whiggins said:

HHS, which I look at for hospital capacities also lists St Joseph's hospital in Bryan and it seems like a "regular" hospital. The trauma region for that part of Texas appears to be pretty full though.

Took Brisket's lead and took some pizza to St Jo's trauma and ICU staff.   Left it with the security guy at the front, he seemed pleasantly shocked.   St Jo's is the hospital that gets the bulk of the indigent care work.   Baylor Scott and White is in it for the bucks, and Caprock is a new popup overgrown ER Clinic.  

On 8/24/2021 at 11:51 AM, Macanudo said:

The family ask in that Tweet....  Wow.    I don't know them and have no idea how they had approached the virus but that is a pretty impressive ask considering they just lost a child.   

Thanks for reposting and pointing that out.  I missed it the first time.  That's some true Christianity there.

On 8/24/2021 at 12:15 PM, DDD Dad said:

And yet, no masking or vaccine requirements have been announced for Cowboys Stadium events.

Jones is fence sitting.  He thinks peoples' love for his Cowboys can make them do the right thing.  It won't.   He'll shrug and say "I tried."

[Bookman 4728]

Here's a story of a guy deciding to not get vaxxed because he already had Covid and thought he wasn't at risk.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article253708748.html

Wow, if only this country had medical experts to consult with.

[Sawbonz 27791]

37 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

On the bright side, probably get a nice side benefit of reducing parasitic infection in rural America.

 

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

Quote

 

Our friends in health care have seen plenty to impale the heart in this COVID-19 pandemic, but nothing more tragic than this: the sight of guilt-ridden young children who believe they’ve killed an unvaccinated parent by bringing the virus home.

“And as they’re dying, the kids are at the bedside apologizing,” a hospital nurse tells me.

“You’ve actually seen that?” I ask her.

“Multiple times,” says the nurse.

 

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Of course it isn’t the kids’ fault they got sick and may have gotten their unvaccinated father or mother deathly ill. While Dad or Mom could’ve easily gotten vaccinated, the children could not have. “But they still just feel terrible, because they feel like they killed their parent,” she says.

 

Quote

 

This is the tragedy tucked inside COVID’s calamity. As if our heroes in health care need more on their shoulders, they must deal with hostility toward them and toward the hard-won medicine that could’ve saved even the quarrelsome — and perhaps saved their young children a lifetime of groundless guilt for having brought the virus home that killed daddy.

“If that story doesn’t make you change your mind, I just don’t really care to talk with you at all,” my nurse friend says, matter-of-factly. “If that doesn’t bother you, I don’t know what will.

“It’s mind-blowing to all of us. We just can’t fathom it.”

 

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/michael-ryan/article253707348.html

 

I do feel sorry for the children left behind by their idiot parents.  The idea of the kids carrying guilt over it forever had not even crossed my mind.  

[Degenerate Gardner 4104]

 

 

 

 

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

 

 

50 buckaroos.  They will give you fifty bucks to not die a horrible death.  Must be a catch.

 

 

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

2 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

50 buckaroos.  They will give you fifty bucks to not die a horrible death.  Must be a catch.

 

 

The catch is bill gates shitty windows 95 code is flowing through your veins!

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

23 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

 

 

 

in short: fuck around and find out.

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

3 hours ago, Bookman said:

So if we get Covid are we supposed to go on a carb-free diet?

 

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

crab free - huge misconception

RIP Jameis Winston. 

[lmao 178]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

If 90+% of people at an event are vaccinated, only a tiny fraction of them are likely to be infected. Yes those few are infectious. Early reports are they are less infectious than unvaccinated who are covid infected, but for argument’s sake let’s say they are equally infectious. The people around them whom they expose, being vaccinated as well, have a very small chance of contracting the virus. 
 

Contrast that with almost no one vaccinated. The numbers for Lollapalooza were right there in the story you linked
 

This shit is not difficult. If you passed 9th grade Health class you should get it

 

 

And the people who have antibodies but are not vaccinated? What does 9th grade health class say about that? You didn't address the segment of the population who knowingly or unknowingly have antibodies from prior infection. Please clear this up for me. 

Edited August 26, 2021 by lmao

[pyrohornIII 4841]

ICU nurse describes nightmare inside hospitals, pleads for Oklahomans to get COVID-19 vaccine

https://www.koco.com/article/hospitals-on-the-brink-as-oklahoma-health-care-workers-stretched-to-the-limit-due-to-covid-19/37323232

 

 

[Sawbonz 27791]

Just now, lmao said:

And the people who have antibodies but are not vaccinated? What does 9th grade health class say about that? You didn't address that segment of the population who knowingly or unknowingly has antibodies from prior infection.

Well that’s not really measurable but you are correct; the number of people at sturgis with antibodies either from recovered infection or vax is above zero. But it’s not near 90% either. The delta variant has been compared with chickenpox in terms of transmissibility. Meaning an exposure in a person with no immunity will result in infection about 9 times in 10. Let’s be generous and say the sturgis crowds, between vaxed and recovered illness, have about 60% of people with immunity. That’s best case scenario and I doubt it’s even close to that. But say it is. Up to 9/10 of the other 40% can get it, plus maybe 3/10 of the immune. So yeah way fucking worse. 

[Beau Vine 54928]

51 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

 

 

50 buckaroos.  They will give you fifty bucks to not die a horrible death.  Must be a catch.

 

 

I went to the free Kelly & Bruce concert in the San Marcos city park last week, and the organizers were offering free T-shirts to the first nine people who got vaccinated there!

[Buzzrock 15029]

 
 
50 buckaroos.  They will give you fifty bucks to not die a horrible death.  Must be a catch.
 
 

I am not a big government person: we should be paying people $1000 to get fully vaccinated.

[Bookman 4728]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I am not a big government person: we should be paying people $1000 to get fully vaccinated.

Yeah and then tax them $1,000 for being stupid.

[F250 28956]

I see people with a high school level understanding of science are still arguing with a physician about disease and medicine.

 

 

[Guest Lobo]

High school understanding?  You shitty at math, bro.

These folks are operating at junior high level...at best.  I'm being generous. 

 

[aggie08 21592]

9 minutes ago, F250 said:

I see people with a high school level understanding of science are still arguing with a physician about disease and medicine.

 

 

Okay, I've gone back 3 pages and still have no idea what this comment is referring to.

[F250 28956]

Just now, aggie08 said:

Okay, I've gone back 3 pages and still have no idea what this comment is referring to.

Fozz and his 9th grade health class just a few posts up.

 

[aggie08 21592]

Just now, F250 said:

Fozz and his 9th grade health class just a few posts up.

 

Ah, gotcha. I thought we were the high schoolers in your example. Which is also true. lmao is in a remedial class of his own though. 

 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20667]

Attorney John Pierce, who represented Kyle Rittenhouse and at least 17 other insurrectionists, is on a ventilator. On August 17, Pierce tweeted, "The entire 82nd Airborne couldn't make me get an experimental government vaccine stuck in my arm."  On July 4, he called the Army vaccine mandate "a final-phase designed-purge of Patriotic Americans from the Army."

https://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaccination-lawyer-capitol-rioters-now-ventilator-covid-19-1623155

Edited August 26, 2021 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[C-Man 27380]

5 hours ago, Anastasis said:

 

On the bright side, probably get a nice side benefit of reducing parasitic infection in rural America.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, lmao said:

And the people who have antibodies but are not vaccinated? What does 9th grade health class say about that? You didn't address the segment of the population who knowingly or unknowingly have antibodies from prior infection. Please clear this up for me. 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Attorney John Pierce, who represented Kyle Rittenhouse and at least 17 other insurrectionists, is on a ventilator. On August 17, Pierce tweeted, "The entire 82nd Airborne couldn't make me get an experimental government vaccine stuck in my arm."  On July 4, he called the Army vaccine mandate "a final-phase designed-purge of Patriotic Americans from the Army."

https://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaccination-lawyer-capitol-rioters-now-ventilator-covid-19-1623155

I'd be willing to bet he's getting all kinds of experimental treatments right now -- shit like Regeneron's cocktail.

[brakeman 28514]

[brakeman 28514]

we are fucked.

Edited August 26, 2021 by brakeman
hang on for many more pandemic years.

[Born to Run 6589]

we are fucked.

Yep and we exposed our vulnerability to the world. I gotta gtfo as soon as I can afford it.

(yeah yeah username etc)

[brakeman 28514]

have we reached merica's Rome moment in time?

Edited August 26, 2021 by brakeman
merica is #1.

[brakeman 28514]

3 minutes ago, brakeman said:

have we reached merica's Rome moment in tine?

this is my brother's kinda b/s line. 

where are we gonna go? 

Mars?

Jupiter?

 

 

maybe, we can fix up our own old jalopy and stay here.

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by brakeman

[C-Man 27380]

Not sure if this is the thread where this was being discussed but Rex Racer is still "hanging in there."