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It's amazing. You can publically and openly praise covid for killing Republicans and they can't say shit back because they'd have to admit they were wrong. 

PLEASE, just one surly conservative come here right now and shame me for dancing on the graves of anti-vaxxer Trumpkins. 

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Welp, it finally happened. I snapped in public today. I went into work for a bit this morning because I’m trying to figure out the safest way to host physicians we are recruiting given our CV-19 sit

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I don't really know what to say anymore tbh. What happened last night is hard to put into words for anyone who hasn't worked in a hospital healthcare setting. Just unreal. Everyone is getting fucked.

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53 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

It’s always the black peoples fault according to these idiots. Always.

That yahoo article was written by a progressive woman of color worried about how vaccine passports would disproportionately affect certain demos.

 

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58 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Found triplehorn. 

 

If a physician prescribes Ivermectin that's a decision between a medical professional and their patient. Self-prescribing yourself black market horse paste is stupid. Listen to your physician.

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If a physician prescribes Ivermectin that's a decision between a medical professional and their patient. Self-prescribing yourself black market horse paste is stupid. Listen to your physician.

If your physician prescribes you Ivermectin, that’s the least of your worries, the biggest worry is who is officiating the snake handling church service while you’re both absent

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32 minutes ago, lmao said:

If a physician prescribes Ivermectin that's a decision between a medical professional and their patient. Self-prescribing yourself black market horse paste is stupid. Listen to your physician.

If you are going to a psychiatrist to get your script to treat an infectious disease you need to be seeing a psychiatrist. Wait wut?

 

in all seriousness, if you want to take ivermectin sign up for one of the many ongoing trials in recruitment right now. At least help in generating meaningful clinical data instead of creating drama at tractor supply. 

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24 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

If your physician prescribes you Ivermectin, that’s the least of your worries, the biggest worry is who is officiating the snake handling church service while you’re both absent

Where did you go to medical school?

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1 hour ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

So are most republicans and antivaxxers.  You aren’t vaccinated against being a complete shitheap though.   I don’t think the FDA has approved that.  

I got the shitheap vaccination in March. 

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13 minutes ago, elfenix said:

I missed that Mississippi now leads the nation in per capita deaths, surpassing New Jersey.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/mississippi/articles/2021-09-16/mississippi-now-has-countrys-highest-rate-for-covid-deaths

just wait, it's coming on down too the red states.

whatta fiery winter is ahead.

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html

-If you are fully vaccinated and become infected with the Delta variant, you can spread the virus to others

 

 

The entirety of just that section, for some context:

What We Know

COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective at preventing COVID-19, including severe illness and death.

COVID-19 vaccines are effective against severe disease and death from variants of the virus that causes COVID-19 currently circulating in the United States, including the Delta variant.

Infections happen in only a small proportion of people who are fully vaccinated, even with the Delta variant. When these infections occur among vaccinated people, they tend to be mild.

If you are fully vaccinated and become infected with the Delta variant, you can spread the virus to others.

People with weakened immune systems, including people who take immunosuppressive medications, may not be protected even if fully vaccinated.

 

pertinent questions just from his snippet:

how much less likely are you to get covid if vaxed?

how much less likely are you to spread covid if vaxed?

how much less likely are you to die from covid if vaxed?

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“Hospitalizations have trended downward over the past week, but doctors and health officials say that’s not exactly a good sign. “It is not because these patients are miraculously getting better and going home,” University of Alabama Medicine chief of hospital medicine Dr. Kierstin Kennedy told CNN. “It's because they're dying.”


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Dying is one way of becoming naturally immune.

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3 hours ago, Grandioso said:

Covid straight up went Reggie Jackson circa 1977 on these folks.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2021-09-19/covid-kills-6-members-of-florida-family-in-3-weeks

I'm sure right-wing media will tell us that it's pretty normal for the flu to kill as many family members in 3 weeks.

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4 hours ago, lemonlime said:

He can't.  Because it proves him wrong.  NYC publishes its vaccination rates, including by race.   And the "data" lmao posted is a lie.

Is this the NYC data site? 

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-vaccines.page#nyc

The default is "All" rather than "among those eligible." Just click the tab to move to relevant numbers. 

White kids (13-17) in Brooklyn and Staten Island are the least vaccinated groups (23% and 29%, respectively). 

 

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Something about water seeking its own level.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/eric-trump-signs-up-to-hype-daddys-record-at-anti-vax-event?ref=home

 

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Donald Trump’s son Eric Trump will give the keynote speech next month at an anti-vaccine conference, marking the latest alliance between the Trump family and the GOP’s fringiest elements.

Trump is set to speak at the Truth About Cancer Live! convention between Oct. 22 and 24 in Nashville, joining a speakers’ lineup that includes some of the most prominent promoters of disinformation about vaccines, as well as leading figures in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.

 

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The conference is the brainchild of Ty and Charlene Bollinger, two major promoters of anti-vaccine disinformation who have made tens of millions of dollars promoting both alternative health cures for cancer and vaccine fears. The Bollingers have dubbed the coronavirus vaccine “that abominable vaccine,” according to a Center for Public Integrity report, and sell a $200 video series promoting vaccine fearmongering on their website.

Trump confirmed his scheduled speech in an email to The Daily Beast.

 

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“I am not there to talk about vaccines,” Trump wrote. “I am in Nashville to talk about the accomplishments of the 45th President of the United States.”

Trump disputed the idea that the conference is “anti-vaccine,” pointing to his vaccinated status.

“As to labeling something an anti-vaccine event, it wouldn’t make much sense for me to attend as a vaccinated person if it was,” Trump wrote.

The Bollingers and “Truth About Cancer” didn’t respond to a request for comment.

 

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Trump added that the push for a coronavirus vaccine during his father’s administration could amount to “one of the greatest accomplishments of any president in history.” But his hosts at the convention don’t appear to share his high opinion of the coronavirus vaccine. In posts on Telegram, a social media app popular on the right, the Bollingers have called the vaccine a “SHOT OF POISON!” and the “COVID kill shot.” The Bollingers have also attacked vaccines more broadly, claiming in social media posts that vaccines cause autism.

Eric Trump’s keynote address marks just the latest unusual conference appearance by a member of the former president’s family. On Sept. 11, Donald Trump gave the keynote address at a conference tied to the Unification Church, which has often been called a cult.

The Bollingers first rose to prominence in “alternative health” internet communities after several of Ty Bollinger’s relatives died of cancer, prompting him to position himself as a chemotherapy skeptic with a video series called “Truth About Cancer,” even as he pushed other conspiracy theories about 9/11 Truth and chemtrails. Since then, Bollingers have become some of the internet’s most notorious promoters of anti-vaccine activism. In May, a report from the Center for Countering Digital Hate dubbed the Bollingers members of the “Disinformation Dozen,” a small group the organization says is responsible for the vast majority of anti-vaccine content on Facebook. Another

Other anti-vaccine speakers at the event include Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Andrew Wakefield, the author of a retracted study linking vaccination with autism—a claim repeated by former President Trump on multiple occasions. Judy Mikovits, who went viral in the summer of 2020 as the star of the “Plandemic” coronavirus disinformation video and has falsely claimed as many as 50 million Americans could be killed by the vaccine, is also scheduled to speak. In promotional copy for tickets to the convention, which range in price from $197 to $997, the Bollingers promise the event will reveal “the truth about vaccines.”

While the conference’s name suggests it’s only about cancer, Truth About Cancer and the Bollingers have sought for years to create an alliance between anti-vaccine groups and advocates for “natural” cancer cures. In fact, if it’s anything like the last event, discussions of cancer seem unlikely to play a major role in the speeches from many of the anti-vaccine figures. At the 2019 Truth About Cancer conference, Kennedy and anti-vaccine activist Del Bigtree barely mentioned cancer during their speeches about vaccines, according to a report from Medium publication Elemental.

QAnon, the conspiracy theory that imagines Donald Trump will soon imprison or execute his enemies and institute a fascist state, will also be well-represented at the conference. A number of QAnon promoters are sharing the speaker’s list bill with the younger Trump, including QAnon personalities “Mel K” and Scott McKay. Krystal Tini, a model and QAnon Instagram influencer, is also set to speak.

Edward Group and Mike Adams, two alternative health personalities who have been regulars on conspiracy theory hub InfoWars, are giving speeches as well. Trump adviser Roger Stone is also giving a speech.

Along with their anti-vaccine activism, the Bollingers have faced criticism for a rally they organized just blocks from the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. During the event, Charlene Bollinger praised the rioters attacking Congress.

“We pray for the patriots that are there now inside,” Charlene Bollinger said during the event. “They’re trying to get inside that Capitol.”

 

 

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Something about water seeking its own level.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/eric-trump-signs-up-to-hype-daddys-record-at-anti-vax-event?ref=home

 

 

 

 

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Trump added that the push for a coronavirus vaccine during his father’s administration could amount to “one of the greatest accomplishments of any president in history.” But his hosts at the convention don’t appear to share his high opinion of the coronavirus vaccine. In posts on Telegram, a social media app popular on the right, the Bollingers have called the vaccine a “SHOT OF POISON!” and the “COVID kill shot.” The Bollingers have also attacked vaccines more broadly, claiming in social media posts that vaccines cause autism.

Eric Trump’s keynote address marks just the latest unusual conference appearance by a member of the former president’s family. On Sept. 11, Donald Trump gave the keynote address at a conference tied to the Unification Church, which has often been called a cult.

The Bollingers first rose to prominence in “alternative health” internet communities after several of Ty Bollinger’s relatives died of cancer, prompting him to position himself as a chemotherapy skeptic with a video series called “Truth About Cancer,” even as he pushed other conspiracy theories about 9/11 Truth and chemtrails. Since then, Bollingers have become some of the internet’s most notorious promoters of anti-vaccine activism. In May, a report from the Center for Countering Digital Hate dubbed the Bollingers members of the “Disinformation Dozen,” a small group the organization says is responsible for the vast majority of anti-vaccine content on Facebook. Another

Other anti-vaccine speakers at the event include Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Andrew Wakefield, the author of a retracted study linking vaccination with autism—a claim repeated by former President Trump on multiple occasions. Judy Mikovits, who went viral in the summer of 2020 as the star of the “Plandemic” coronavirus disinformation video and has falsely claimed as many as 50 million Americans could be killed by the vaccine, is also scheduled to speak. In promotional copy for tickets to the convention, which range in price from $197 to $997, the Bollingers promise the event will reveal “the truth about vaccines.”

While the conference’s name suggests it’s only about cancer, Truth About Cancer and the Bollingers have sought for years to create an alliance between anti-vaccine groups and advocates for “natural” cancer cures. In fact, if it’s anything like the last event, discussions of cancer seem unlikely to play a major role in the speeches from many of the anti-vaccine figures. At the 2019 Truth About Cancer conference, Kennedy and anti-vaccine activist Del Bigtree barely mentioned cancer during their speeches about vaccines, according to a report from Medium publication Elemental.

QAnon, the conspiracy theory that imagines Donald Trump will soon imprison or execute his enemies and institute a fascist state, will also be well-represented at the conference. A number of QAnon promoters are sharing the speaker’s list bill with the younger Trump, including QAnon personalities “Mel K” and Scott McKay. Krystal Tini, a model and QAnon Instagram influencer, is also set to speak.

Edward Group and Mike Adams, two alternative health personalities who have been regulars on conspiracy theory hub InfoWars, are giving speeches as well. Trump adviser Roger Stone is also giving a speech.

Along with their anti-vaccine activism, the Bollingers have faced criticism for a rally they organized just blocks from the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. During the event, Charlene Bollinger praised the rioters attacking Congress.

“We pray for the patriots that are there now inside,” Charlene Bollinger said during the event. “They’re trying to get inside that Capitol.”

 

 

All this tells me is that the Trumps see some grifters making money off of the rubes and they want in on it too.  The old quote “in this world nothing is certain except death and taxes” needs to be amended to say “in this world nothing is certain except death, taxes, and the Trump family grasping onto every grifter/conman money making scheme in the world so they can make some more money”. 

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I am really irritated with BLM in NYC at the moment.  Rather than talking about how Vaccine mandates can disenfranchise people of color and protesting on the UWS, use your outreach and get more people of color to get vaccinated.  

At this point, I do not care what race you are, if you have chosen to not be vaccinated, you should be shunned.  You are part of the problem.  Fuck you.

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I am really irritated with BLM in NYC at the moment.  Rather than talking about how Vaccine mandates can disenfranchise people of color and protesting on the UWS, use your outreach and get more people of color to get vaccinated.  

At this point, I do not care what race you are, if you have chosen to not be vaccinated, you should be shunned.  You are part of the problem.  Fuck you.

Yep.  I feel sorry for the kids of these idiots but, shit, what are you gonna do; sorry you were born of idiots. 

Any unvaccinated adult who dies from covid gets nothing but schadenfruede from me. 

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Yep.  I feel sorry for the kids of these idiots but, shit, what are you gonna do; sorry you were born of idiots. 

Any unvaccinated adult who dies from covid gets nothing but schadenfruede from me. 

I do too.  But the adults (i.e. 18 and over), fuck you.  Stupidity knows no racial bounds.  Again, BLM could be doing outreach, but rather, they are going to be outraged becuase shit happened at an UWS restaurant.  How about making sure people of color fucking get vaccinated.  The disenfranchisement taking place now is by choice.  You had over a month to get vaccinated once the vaccine passport was announced in NYC.  You are an idiot if you didn't.

This is all stemming from that incident with the Texans.  If you come to NYC and either are unvaccinated or do not have a vaccine card, fuck you.  Stay the fuck at home.  And if you get turned out, do not act like trash.  Be the bigger person.

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28 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

All this tells me is that the Trumps see some grifters making money off of the rubes and they want in on it too.  The old quote “in this world nothing is certain except death and taxes” needs to be amended to say “in this world nothing is certain except death, taxes, and the Trump family grasping onto every grifter/conman money making scheme in the world so they can make some more money”. 

It's more than money, although that is their driver because they are a criminal syndicate. It's about coalescing their groups. While laying the groundwork for electoral shenanigans is something they have in their playbook, they absolutely have to have to have to bring their people together and draw in some others. Not all anti vaccine proponents are Trump acolytes, but they've got the micro targeting data to ascertain what are these users' biggest fears and what can motivate them to vote for Trump or whomever Trump crowns (which is going to be Trump, but you never know). They didn't stop collecting data just because Cambridge Analytica was exposed. They are working the social media platforms and whatever other outlets they can to see what sticks.

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“Hospitalizations have trended downward over the past week, but doctors and health officials say that’s not exactly a good sign. “It is not because these patients are miraculously getting better and going home,” University of Alabama Medicine chief of hospital medicine Dr. Kierstin Kennedy told CNN. “It's because they're dying.”


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He can't.  Because it proves him wrong.  NYC publishes its vaccination rates, including by race.   And the "data" lmao posted is a lie.

https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/vaccine-demographic-data

50.1% of black people over the age of 15 have at least 1 dose.

59.5% of white folks (which it looks like NY state groups white and latino together when discussing race and then separates out latino from non latino on ethnicity)

96% of asians (good job folks)

 

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I am really irritated with BLM in NYC at the moment.  Rather than talking about how Vaccine mandates can disenfranchise people of color and protesting on the UWS, use your outreach and get more people of color to get vaccinated.  

At this point, I do not care what race you are, if you have chosen to not be vaccinated, you should be shunned.  You are part of the problem.  Fuck you.

 Because, as predicted, it is disenfranchising. You can be against vaccine passports and for the vaccine. 

https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-lives-matter-protest-set-for-nyc-restaurant-where-fight-over-proof-of-vaccination-occurred/?test=prebid

 

Last week, a fight broke out in a popular New York City restaurant after a white hostess and three Black women from out of town became embroiled in a dispute over showing proof of COVID-19 vaccination.

After the women, who are facing charges in the brawl, said the hostess used a racist term in the incident, Black Lives Matter is planning a protest. According to the New York Times, the co-founder and chairman of Black Lives Matter Greater New York, Hank Newsome, said that the group plans on staging a protest at Carmine’s, a popular Italian restaurant on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

“Restaurants are using vaccine mandates to enforce their racist beliefs and excluding Black patrons,” Newsome said.

Justin Moore, an attorney who is representing one of the women, Kaeita Nkeenge Rankin, said the hostess spewed a racial slur and spoke condescendingly to the patrons. She suggested that their vaccination cards were fake, said Moore

 

 

 

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Lulz, Carmines is a tourist trap and their staff and clientele is as diverse as NYC and the people who visit it.  It’s far more likely that unvaxxed idiots who showed their whole asses and are facing charges are scraping for the only excuse that might work than that the hostess dropped the n-word at work. 

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Agreed. Serious question - did your dad ever get vaxxed?

My dad?  He and my mom got vaccinated back in March once the J&J shot came out.  It was my brother that was the hold out, and yes, he got vaccinated.  But I was already at the fuck them point with him, and was pretty fucking clear on that point with him.

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 Because, as predicted, it is disenfranchising. You can be against vaccine passports and for the vaccine. 

https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-lives-matter-protest-set-for-nyc-restaurant-where-fight-over-proof-of-vaccination-occurred/?test=prebid

 

Last week, a fight broke out in a popular New York City restaurant after a white hostess and three Black women from out of town became embroiled in a dispute over showing proof of COVID-19 vaccination.

After the women, who are facing charges in the brawl, said the hostess used a racist term in the incident, Black Lives Matter is planning a protest. According to the New York Times, the co-founder and chairman of Black Lives Matter Greater New York, Hank Newsome, said that the group plans on staging a protest at Carmine’s, a popular Italian restaurant on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

“Restaurants are using vaccine mandates to enforce their racist beliefs and excluding Black patrons,” Newsome said.

Justin Moore, an attorney who is representing one of the women, Kaeita Nkeenge Rankin, said the hostess spewed a racial slur and spoke condescendingly to the patrons. She suggested that their vaccination cards were fake, said Moore

 

 

 

You disingenuous twat.  These people have CHOSEN not to be vaccinated.  They have CHOSEN to be disenfranchised.  FUCK THEM.

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Didn't go back far enough but was this posted? What's strange place

Dallas-area couple kicked out of bar and restaurant for wearing masks

The owner of the restaurant says he considers the "no mask" rule a part of the dress code

 

https://abc13.com/11033604/

 

Not sure which thread, but I'm pretty sure it was posted somewhere on Surly. 

Rowlett shouldn't be considered Dallas.  It's basically East Texas.  

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Not sure which thread, but I'm pretty sure it was posted somewhere on Surly. 

Rowlett shouldn't be considered Dallas.  It's basically East Texas.  

The parents are fucking idiots.

"The new mom said she and her husband are both fully vaccinated and choose to wear masks in public to protect their 4-month-old immunocompromised son."

 

 

 

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The parents are fucking idiots.

"The new mom said she and her husband are both fully vaccinated and choose to wear masks in public to protect their 4-month-old immunocompromised son."

 

 

 

Yeah, I forgot about that.  Hey Mom and Dad, maybe don't go dining indoors during a pandemic if you're worried about your son who can't be vaccinated and is immunocompromised.  Was the kid with them?  I can't remember from my reading of the original news story.

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