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9 minutes ago, Foosters said:

You've just described every city's police and fire departments. Shit, we have members of the Los Angeles Fire Department who live in Texas and fly into CA for their shifts:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-08/lopez-column-more-than-100-la-firefighters-live-outside-california

You should have to live in the city.  Sorry, but that is a load of bullshit.  

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4 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

No more free pass.  You fuck around, you find out.  Also, most of them live in Staten Island which explains a whole lot.  Staten Island is New York City's asshole.  It honestly has more in common with New Jersey than it does NYC.

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Deborah Birx, the former Trump White House coronavirus response coordinator, said that the United States could have reduced COVID-related deaths by 30 to 40 percent if Trump officials had been less fixated on the election and more focused no following recommendations.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-covid-response-coordinator-deborah-birx-says-distracted-trump-made-pandemic-death-count-worse?source=twitter&via=desktop

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Deborah Birx, the former Trump White House coronavirus response coordinator, said that the United States could have reduced COVID-related deaths by 30 to 40 percent if Trump officials had been less fixated on the election and more focused no following recommendations.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-covid-response-coordinator-deborah-birx-says-distracted-trump-made-pandemic-death-count-worse?source=twitter&via=desktop

Fuck her and her stupid scarves.

She could have spoken up when it fucking mattered.
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4 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

i thumb through the Herman Cain awards and you see tons of images of Sam Elliot giving out wise cowboy wisdom. I wonder what he thinks about his image being used to commit folksy murder.  It would suck if some role i had was co opted like that  

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A close relative posted a supposed quote. I had the evidence to shoot it down.

"Well, it sounds like something he would say!"

They don't care if it's real, true, or factual. As long as it fits their worldview it's truth.

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1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

A close relative posted a supposed quote. I had the evidence to shoot it down.

"Well, it sounds like something he would say!"

They don't care if it's real, true, or factual. As long as it fits their worldview it's truth.

Do they think the Sam Elliott memes are being ironical or are they just unaware of who he supported in 2020? 

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4 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Blissfully unaware. 

Normally I'd be a little more...philosophical about it. And cut it the fuck loose.

But when a seditionist cult tries to co-opt Wade Garrett you got two choices: you can let it happen or you can enlighten the motherfuckers.

 

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An interesting repurposed drug trial regarding use of fluvoxamine (an infrequently used SSRI):

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(21)00448-4/fulltext

Significant reductions in mortality and hospitalization with early treatment.  RCT data. Will need confirmation in other trials (many ongoing). 

 

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https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/3m-workers-in-brownwood-protest-vaccine-mandate/

 

An old buddy is a Chamber of Commerce member in Brownwood helped organize a walkout among 3M and Kohler employees protesting the vaccine mandate. I wouldn't think that town wants to lose their 3 biggest employers that could easily move 2 hours north but Im obviously way less tuned in to the inner workings of Brown County politics 

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/10/27/world/covid-vaccine-boosters/judge-rejects-nypd-vaccine-challenge

 

 

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A New York State judge on Wednesday denied a police union request to temporarily block the city’s tough new vaccine mandate, which requires most of the municipal work force to receive a first shot by 5 p.m. on Friday or face unpaid leave.

A lawsuit filed Monday by the Police Benevolent Association was the latest legal challenge to fail to gain traction in court as Mayor Bill de Blasio pushes ahead with one of the most aggressive municipal vaccination campaigns in the nation.

While most of the city’s 300,000 workers have already been vaccinated, about 46,000 had not been as of last week. The highest percentage of unvaccinated employees was in the city’s Department of Corrections, where only half of workers had been vaccinated.

More than a quarter of employees in some of the city’s other crucial departments — emergency medical services, fire, police and sanitation — remained unvaccinated as of last week.

Andrew Ansbro, the president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association said he ordered his unvaccinated members to report to work and defy the mandate, Reuters reported. But the city’s fire commissioner has said he expects about a 20 percent staffing reduction at firehouses and in ambulances because of the mandate, Gothamist reported.

Workers who do not show proof of vaccination by 5 p.m. on Friday will be put on unpaid leave as of Monday. Requests for medical or religious exemptions were due on Wednesday, and workers who have applied for those exemptions will be permitted to work with weekly testing while their cases are considered.

Because of a severe staffing shortage on Rikers Island, the city has made an exception for uniformed corrections officers, giving them until Dec. 1 to get their first dose. The city’s health care workers and education department employees were already required to be vaccinated under earlier mandates.

The Police Benevolent Association, which represents about 24,000 uniformed police officers, argued in court papers that the city’s mandate was arbitrary and unnecessary given that levels of the virus had been dropping under an earlier vaccine mandate that allowed unvaccinated workers to stay on the job with weekly tests.

But Judge Lizette Colon of Richmond County Supreme Court did not find their argument compelling enough to approve their request to stop the mandate from going into effect while the lawsuit goes forward. Both sides are due back in court Nov. 12.

“We’re pleased with this ruling, and remain confident this mandate is on solid legal ground,” the city’s Law Department said in a statement. “The city’s vaccine mandates make our workplaces safer, further public health and aid the city’s recovery.”

Patrick J. Lynch, the president of the police union, said the union would appeal the decision and predicted an impact on the city’s work force. Some of the holdouts against the mandate have been preparing for a showdown: On Monday, thousands of people including police officers, firefighters and sanitation workers marched across the Brooklyn Bridge, holding large American flags and chanting that they would not comply.

“Today’s ruling sets the city up for a real crisis,” Mr. Lynch said in a statement. “New Yorkers should know who to blame for any shortfall in city services: Mayor Bill de Blasio, Police Commissioner [Dermot] Shea and the other bureaucrats who are putting politics before public health and public safety.”

On Wednesday, Mr. de Blasio said the city had been preparing for the possibility of staff shortages and predicted that almost all workers would ultimately get vaccinated rather than lose their paychecks. Workers can return to work once they are vaccinated, and how long they can stay on unpaid leave has yet to be determined.

“These are agencies that have been preparing for months,” Mr. de Blasio said at a news conference on Wednesday. “Every one of the commissioners has been absolutely confident that they can make the adjustments and every one of the commissioners has adamantly wanted us to move forward with a vaccine mandate. So, I feel ready.”


 

 

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I love watching all these legal challenges to vaccine mandates evaporate once the reality of law weighs in. 

Hey you dumbfucks, we've had vaccine mandates for over 100 years, they've has been thoroughly challenged in the courts, go fuck yourself. 

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