CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[tchookem 3,900]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/07/19/coronavirus-origin-wuhan-lab-us-funding/
 
Joey JoJo such xenophobia.  So racist.
no wai came lab from.

Hey everybody Incredulity shit in his hand. Do you want to smell it? No?

[HenryJames 66,055]

 

[jimmyjazz 45,957]

I'm pretty sure both my dogs are autistic, so this hits close to home.

[HornOnTheBayou 8,924]

They have a good point. My dogs both got the rabies vaccine and now all they do all day is lick their own assholes and chase squirrels. How can that be the actions of a normal dog?!?

Edited August 29, 2023 by HornOnTheBayou

[Brisketexan 105,143]

My last dog was a lazy fucking dingbat who would rather doze on a pile of pillows than retrieve a duck. She was really sweet though.
The problem wasn’t vaccines. My wife spoiled that dog. Goddammit.

[StassneyHorn 6,576]

Just want to thank Joe Biden for single handedly slaying the Coronavirus with Trumps vaccines and making him watch.

[Dnaguy 11,964]

20 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

Rain Man's best friend?

No wait.

Rain Man....chester Terroir.

 

 

[Bullneck 19,091]

[Pods 7,552]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

The people the United States needs to read that and properly blame Trump, are instead going to read it and say it's evidence the Deep State/China planned Covid. 

[Brisketexan 105,143]

The people the United States needs to read that and properly blame Trump, are instead going to read it and say it's evidence the Deep State/China planned Covid. 

10000000000000000000000% this.
The stupidity is more dominating and more dense than a goddamned black hole.

[fattyflattie 4,639]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

My last dog was a lazy fucking dingbat who would rather doze on a pile of pillows than retrieve a duck. She was really sweet though.
The problem wasn’t vaccines. My wife spoiled that dog. Goddammit.

And, if you were brilliant (like me)  you would have spent several thousand on hunting and trials training.  And she would be great, a natural. Then spoiled to a fat sack of couch cuddles by wife and kids.   

[Brisketexan 105,143]

And, if you were brilliant (like me)  you would have spent several thousand on hunting and trials training.  And she would be great, a natural. Then spoiled to a fat sack of couch cuddles by wife and kids.   

Oh…she was a started dog (trained by and acquired from Harlen Winter). She was birdy. A lab that would even point. Paid a chunk of change for her. My wife ruined her in less than a year.

[fattyflattie 4,639]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Oh…she was a started dog (trained by and acquired from Harlen Winter). She was birdy. A lab that would even point. Paid a chunk of change for her. My wife ruined her in less than a year.

I know that exact feeling.  Exact same situation.  

[YGIFS 19,450]

We vaccinated my dog for rabies years ago.  Then he had to be put down.  Not because he had rabies or bit anybody, but because he started counting cards and the pit bosses have ways of dealing with shit like that.  

 

So when's this wave's vaccine coming out?  I figured I need another booster sometime this Autumn/Winter.  But I don't want to do it around flu shot time (we usually get them right before/after Halloween).  

[HornOnTheBayou 8,924]

My conservative co-worker this morning: "And now Biden is going to require everyone to get the new Covid booster."
Me: "I don't think that's true."
Co-worker: "No, I read it this morning. EVERYONE has to get it. See, look." 

He pulls up an article from NBC News. It says that Biden is "tentatively encouraging" everyone to get it. I pointed out that is a whole lot different than "requiring." His response was, "Well ... sure ... but ... we'll see. It could happen." I am sick and tired of the complete lack of intellectual honesty from the right.

[C-Man 27,229]

28 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

complete lack of intellect

FIFY

[TeeDubya 3,362]

Correlation, not causation, only, this is pretty much causation....

[Biff Tannen 45,687]

6 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

My conservative co-worker this morning: "And now Biden is going to require everyone to get the new Covid booster."
Me: "I don't think that's true."
Co-worker: "No, I read it this morning. EVERYONE has to get it. See, look." 

He pulls up an article from NBC News. It says that Biden is "tentatively encouraging" everyone to get it. I pointed out that is a whole lot different than "requiring." His response was, "Well ... sure ... but ... we'll see. It could happen." I am sick and tired of the complete lack of intellectual honesty from the right.

Not to mention there was never a vaccine mandate to begin with.  Though there fucking should have been.

[Born to Run 6,569]

My last dog was a lazy fucking dingbat who would rather doze on a pile of pillows than retrieve a duck. She was really sweet though.
The problem wasn’t vaccines. My wife spoiled that dog. Goddammit.

I've had my one great dog in my life. Yellow Lab, great breeding lineage. I trained him myself before I had kids and still had the spare time to do so. It was so rewarding hunting with him. Fetching machine. Watching him work, and looking back at my hand signals. He'd also post up in the tank during dove hunts and bring everyone thier birds with a soft mouth just for a head pat with a little instuction. Or chase a winged Pintail for a mile and bring him back. Or look underwater and find that Redhead hugging the bottom and root him out. We'd go to the lake every night and swim together and play fetch. I miss that the most.

Rambunctious fucker though, first few years I needed an electric fence to keep him in. He'd break when we dropped birds and that was his only major flaw in the blind. He uprooted a few mangrove trees when tied to them. And he hated when I went wade fishing as only a Lab could. "Why aren't we playing fetch or killing birds?"

He let all my neices and nephews ride him like a horse and poke and pull like kids do with grace.

My best friend for 14 years through all life could send my way. Divorce, my dad passing and a few friends gone as well. He'd crawl into bed with me when a storm came in and snuggle up and fall asleep. But he'd leave as soon as the thunder stopped. Strong willed, gentle, caring Then he went fast and peacefully. I'll never top that. I spent 1.5k to get him tattoed on my shoulder. I love Labs with all my heart.

All that to say my next dog will be something portable and chill and dumb but semi loyal. There is a quality to easy. Greatness is a lot of fucking work.

I'd say I'm not sure how I got on that tangent, but I know. I just wrapped up yard work and I'm ready for a swim but don't feel like going solo.

[Brisketexan 105,143]

I've had my one great dog in my life. Yellow Lab, great breeding lineage. I trained him myself before I had kids and still had the spare time to do so. It was so rewarding hunting with him. Fetching machine. Watching him work, and looking back at my hand signals. He'd also post up in the tank during dove hunts and bring everyone thier birds with a soft mouth just for a head pat with a little instuction. Or chase a winged Pintail for a mile and bring him back. Or look underwater and find that Redhead hugging the bottom and root him out. We'd go to the lake every night and swim together and play fetch. I miss that the most.

Rambunctious fucker though, first few years I needed an electric fence to keep him in. He'd break when we dropped birds and that was his only major flaw in the blind. He uprooted a few mangrove trees when tied to them. And he hated when I went wade fishing as only a Lab could. "Why aren't we playing fetch or killing birds?"

He let all my neices and nephews ride him like a horse and poke and pull like kids do with grace.

My best friend for 14 years through all life could send my way. Divorce, my dad passing and a few friends gone as well. He'd crawl into bed with me when a storm came in and snuggle up and fall asleep. But he'd leave as soon as the thunder stopped. Strong willed, gentle, caring Then he went fast and peacefully. I'll never top that. I spent 1.5k to get him tattoed on my shoulder. I love Labs with all my heart.

All that to say my next dog will be something portable and chill and dumb but semi loyal. There is a quality to easy. Greatness is a lot of fucking work.

I'd say I'm not sure how I got on that tangent, but I know. I just wrapped up yard work and I'm ready for a swim but don't feel like going solo.

You just described my first lab, before we had kids. A chocolate. She was the best damn dog. I estimated she retrieved around 3,500 birds. As we put her down, I whispered in her ear “there were so many birds, so many birds.” And then I cried like a child.

[Born to Run 6,569]

You just described my first lab, before we had kids. A chocolate. She was the best damn dog. I estimated she retrieved around 3,500 birds. As we put her down, I whispered in her ear “there were so many birds, so many birds.” And then I cried like a child.

Mine went fast; was strong at my Mom's house while I spent two days doing Warriors Weekend entertaining Vets. Took him for his last swim that Sunday. He fetched one more time. By Sunday PM he couldn't walk. Put him down at home on Monday.

Got his paw prints just prior.

[dcbc 14,484]

11 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

You just described my first lab, before we had kids. A chocolate. She was the best damn dog. I estimated she retrieved around 3,500 birds. As we put her down, I whispered in her ear “there were so many birds, so many birds.” And then I cried like a child.

Oh, shit, man.  Now I'm all teary at my desk at work. 

 

I lost a "once-in-a-lifetime" Golden Retriever to cancer when she was seven.  I didn't get another dog for twelve years, and I didn't get another retriever for eighteen years.  All I can say after having had Maeby for the last four years is that there apparently are lots of those once-in-a-lifetime dogs and my only regret is not getting another one a little bit sooner (but then I wouldn't have had her).

 

When we had to put down "King," an older dog we adopted of some sort of terrier lineage, a few years ago.  I remember whispering in his ear, "You're such a good dog," over and over as he passed.   I will never forget any of them.  

 

And now I'm going to have to do something about all the dust in this room.

Edited August 31, 2023 by dcbc

[Bullneck 19,091]

On 8/29/2023 at 9:31 AM, YGIFS said:

We vaccinated my dog for rabies years ago.  Then he had to be put down.  Not because he had rabies or bit anybody, but because he started counting cards and the pit bosses have ways of dealing with shit like that.  

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,793]

Nice job dog story assholes. My good boy is about to turn two and after reading your bullshit I'm at work like this 

[Anastasis 23,469]

Seriously. Now I am thinking about past UT tailgates with my dog. Thanks for somehow finding a way to make the pandemic thread more depressing. Hope she is chasing footballs at the tailgate in the sky. 
 

 

Edited August 31, 2023 by Anastasis

[Anastasis 23,469]

Peter, what the fuck are you doing?

 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,400]

Just want to say Fuck Dr. Phil.

 

 

 

 

[YGIFS 19,450]

We lose nearly 400,000 Americans each year to swimming pools?  Yeah Doc, that's gonna be a hard "NO" from me on that one.

Also, I love that you're doing this in front of "The Secured Border Wall" that I could easily pass thousands of doses of fentanyl through in a matter of minutes to be trafficked across our country regardless of who is President.  Look at the slats, disphit.  And Im not even talking about wife.  

 

[mdmost 43,002]

Is there a jab that protects me from dying in a swimming pool?

[Brisketexan 105,143]

Is there a jab that protects me from dying in a swimming pool?

Yes. That jab is a hot lifeguard.

[Neonmoon 38,129]

I wish we would have let everything stay open so more of the dumb mothersfuckers would have died 

[jimmyjazz 45,957]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

I wish we would have let everything stay open so more of the dumb mothersfuckers would have died 

I'm not gonna lie . . .

[mdmost 43,002]

Yeah but I always go back to all the poor people who also would've died because they had to go to work because of all the stupid people. 

[atomheartbevo 89,672]

3 hours ago, YGIFS said:

We lose nearly 400,000 Americans each year to swimming pools?  Yeah Doc, that's gonna be a hard "NO" from me on that one.

Yep. He’s making shit up: “An average of 4,012 unintentional drowning deaths occurred each year from 2011–2020”

Swimming pool deaths are less than 400 a year and we have 10.7 million pools  

350,000 a year means 3.5 million every 10 years.  Somehow, I think we’d notice that.  
 

Edited February 3 by atomheartbevo

[Anastasis 23,469]

Pentagon ran an antivax campaign targeting Philippines and Middle East. 

Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

 

[jimmyjazz 45,957]

The Philippines?

[Anastasis 23,469]

30 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The Philippines?

‘We were desperate’

Together, the phony accounts used by the military had tens of thousands of followers during the program. Reuters could not determine how widely the anti-vax material and other Pentagon-planted disinformation was viewed, or to what extent the posts may have caused COVID deaths by dissuading people from getting vaccinated.

In the wake of the U.S. propaganda efforts, however, then-Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte had grown so dismayed by how few Filipinos were willing to be inoculated that he threatened to arrest people who refused vaccinations.

“You choose, vaccine or I will have you jailed,” a masked Duterte said in a televised address in June 2021. “There is a crisis in this country … I’m just exasperated by Filipinos not heeding the government.”

 Then-Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte pleaded with citizens to get the COVID vaccine. “You choose, vaccine or I will have you jailed,” a masked Duterte said in this televised address in June 2021. 

When he addressed the vaccination issue, the Philippines had among the worst inoculation rates in Southeast Asia. Only 2.1 million of its 114 million citizens were fully vaccinated – far short of the government’s target of 70 million. By the time Duterte spoke, COVID cases exceeded 1.3 million, and almost 24,000 Filipinos had died from the virus. The difficulty in vaccinating the population contributed to the worst death rate in the region.

A spokesperson for Duterte did not make the former president available for an interview.

Some Filipino healthcare professionals and former officials contacted by Reuters were shocked by the U.S. anti-vax effort, which they say exploited an already vulnerable citizenry. Public concerns about a Dengue fever vaccine, rolled out in the Philippines in 2016, had led to broad skepticism toward inoculations overall, said Lulu Bravo, executive director of the Philippine Foundation for Vaccination. The Pentagon campaign preyed on those fears.

“Why did you do it when people were dying? We were desperate,” said Dr. Nina Castillo-Carandang, a former adviser to the World Health Organization and Philippines government during the pandemic. “We don’t have our own vaccine capacity,” she noted, and the U.S. propaganda effort “contributed even more salt into the wound.”

The campaign also reinforced what one former health secretary called a longstanding suspicion of China, most recently because of aggressive behavior by Beijing in disputed areas of the South China Sea. Filipinos were unwilling to trust China’s Sinovac, which first became available in the country in March 2021, said Esperanza Cabral, who served as health secretary under President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. Cabral said she had been unaware of the U.S. military’s secret operation.

“I’m sure that there are lots of people who died from COVID who did not need to die from COVID,” she said.

To implement the anti-vax campaign, the Defense Department overrode strong objections from top U.S. diplomats in Southeast Asia at the time, Reuters found. Sources involved in its planning and execution say the Pentagon, which ran the program through the military’s psychological operations center in Tampa, Florida, disregarded the collateral impact that such propaganda may have on innocent Filipinos.

“We weren’t looking at this from a public health perspective,” said a senior military officer involved in the program. “We were looking at how we could drag China through the mud.”

[BrickHorn 18,236]

5 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Pentagon ran an antivax campaign targeting Philippines and Middle East. 

Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

 

Shockingly, this stupid shit was cooked up under Trump and Biden put an end to it shortly into his term:

Quote

The military program started under former President Donald Trump and continued months into Joe Biden’s presidency, Reuters found – even after alarmed social media executives warned the new administration that the Pentagon had been trafficking in COVID misinformation. The Biden White House issued an edict in spring 2021 banning the anti-vax effort, which also disparaged vaccines produced by other rivals, and the Pentagon initiated an internal review, Reuters found.

 

[jimmyjazz 45,957]

While I find the whole thing abhorrent, I still don't get the Philippines angle.  Yeah, the article points out the relationship with China, but China was "the problem", not the Philippines.  In either case, fucking with public health is beyond the pale.

[Incredulity 11,674]

Kansas suing Pfizer.

https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/government/2024/06/17/kansas-ag-kris-kobach-sues-pfizer-over-covid-vaccine-marketing/74123294007/

[Neonmoon 38,129]

3 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

The military program started under former President Donald Trump and continued months into Joe Biden’s presidency, Reuters found – even after alarmed social media executives warned the new administration that the Pentagon had been trafficking in COVID misinformation. The Biden White House issued an edict in spring 2021 banning the anti-vax effort, which also disparaged vaccines produced by other rivals, and the Pentagon initiated an internal review, Reuters found.

We are the baddies

[tchookem 3,900]

While I find the whole thing abhorrent, I still don't get the Philippines angle.  Yeah, the article points out the relationship with China, but China was "the problem", not the Philippines.  In either case, fucking with public health is beyond the pale.

Trump=incompetent. This was a Trump plan. Therefore, it was done in the most slapdick fashion possible.

[Gatorubet 30,239]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:13 PM, Born to Run said:

My best friend for 14 years through all life could send my way. Divorce, my dad passing and a few friends gone as well. He'd crawl into bed with me when a storm came in and snuggle up and fall asleep. But he'd leave as soon as the thunder stopped. Strong willed, gentle, caring Then he went fast and peacefully. I'll never top that. I spent 1.5k to get him tattoed on my shoulder. I love Labs with all my heart..

I would’ve done it for 1.1k

 

 

 

jk. Sounds like a great Doggo.