CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

The easiest thing in the world is to plant some Fed with a flag and play it as look at all these racists like Trudeau did. Who wears a mask at an anti mandate rally? Come on. 
 

What’s the angle here if it’s real? Why are white supremacists and nazis so against vaccine mandates that they want to rep themselves at a protest?

[RDCanecutter 26281]

It's Canada so I'm kinda surprised they don't say agent provocateur in French too.

[Ghost of LL 15492]

11 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

ok, but who is paying for that? they sure as fuck aren't

Paying for what? Transplants are expensive; the dead cost nothing.

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This idiocy is what I don't fucking get.

His entire stand is "you can't tell me what to do!  Everything is my choice!"

Yet the list of things you either have to do or have to give consent to in order to obtain an organ transplant -- setting aside the COVID vaccination requirement -- is 10 miles long.  Seriously, you are obligated to do any number of things, all the way down to minute details like "fast for 12 hours before surgery" and "be at the hospital at 5:00 am for intake and prep."  Does he say "NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO DO!" to those requirements, too?

It's fucking staggering moronic inconsistency.  But then, "Staggering Moronic Inconsistency" is probably going to be stamped on our coinage pretty soon, so what the fuck do I know?

 

This.  Why did he not refuse dialysis?    

[Foosters 17733]

13 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

The easiest thing in the world is to plant some Fed with a flag and play it as look at all these racists like Trudeau did. Who wears a mask at an anti mandate rally? Come on. 
 

What’s the angle here if it’s real? Why are white supremacists and nazis so against vaccine mandates that they want to rep themselves at a protest?

Lol, now "just asking questions" about Nazis huh. 

[Incredulity 11555]

[Brisketexan 104628]

22 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

“I was born free,” Carswell added. “I’ll die free.”

I was born covered in shit, piss, and blood, screaming my lungs out next to a naked woman. I suspect I'll die the same way.

"Suspect?"

[Incredulity 11555]

 

 

 

What an asshole.

[Anastasis 23394]

4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

 

 

 

What an asshole.

 

There is certainly a class component involved.  The optics are most obvious when you see the pictures of all the service industry folks masked up and the political types just kicked back. 

[RDCanecutter 26281]

38 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

"Suspect?"

The prophesy said I'd get run over by a college student checking her phone. Granted, that doesn't rule out being covered in piss, shit, and blood while screaming my lungs out next to a naked woman right before the SUV comes careening around the corner.

[RDCanecutter 26281]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

There is certainly a class component involved.  The optics are most obvious when you see the pictures of all the service industry folks masked up and the political types just kicked back. 

He'd be more sympathetic if he simply called everyone else a diseased peasant.

[Incredulity 11555]

2 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

He'd be more honest sympathetic if he simply called everyone else a diseased peasant.

FIFY

[Guest Lobo]

18 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Didn't realize Philadelphia Four Seasons Landscaping opened up a Northern California location.  Good on 'em for expanding during tough times.  

Is that like the new symbol of power now?  I'm so fucking powerful, I can just give press conferences near random, poorly maintained warehouses?  

[We’reTexas 1469]

I’m with this take. Though TBF London Breed has basically said the mask mandate is BS but doesn’t have any authority to remove it. 

[Incredulity 11555]

7 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Didn't realize Philadelphia Four Seasons Landscaping opened up a Northern California location.  Good on 'em for expanding during tough times.  

Is that like the new symbol of power now?  I'm so fucking powerful, I can just give press conferences near random, poorly maintained warehouses?  

He’s down there showing off a development/revitalization project that he has undoubtedly been greased 6 figures on.

[Guest Lobo]

But what if I eat a medium rare steak with way more than 2 drinks, and just have a little dollop of cookie dough for dessert?  

[jimmyjazz 45560]

1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

I'd point it at you. 

I'll buy you a dictionary.  Hell, I'd buy you a college level history text but it would be over your head.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19093]

5 hours ago, ouflak said:

It was a stupid policy, as well as being cruel and ill-conceived.

I think you misunderstand.  If you work for the NHS, you should be vaccinated.  It is a stupid policy to end those mandates.  People that don’t believe in science have zero business working for or with the NHS.

Edited February 1, 2022 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[workswithseed 2037]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'll buy you a dictionary.  Hell, I'd buy you a college level history text but it would be over your head.

Everything within the state. Nothing outside the state. 

Hell, a bunch of workers rose up to unshackle their chains. I might as well put on the three arrows here. I'm not some socialist, but right now I'm alright with what these truckers are doing going against the mandate.

[Sawbonz 27436]

3 hours ago, Foosters said:

You seem to be failing miserably.

[Nivek 16860]

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Red herring.  You rant about "cloth masks," with a single acknowledgment of more effective masks.  Yes, requiring masks and allowing people to use a damned bandanna is folly.  But the VERY reason we allowed that was because of the anti-mask nuts.  We KNEW that if they were required to wear actual, effective masks, they would stage protests comparing their treatment to Auschwitz and would murder a few government officials to make their point.  So, we let them get by with bandanas because it seemed better than nothing (but not by a lot).

KN95 etc masks are much more effective.  They are also widely available.  Any place where a mask requirement is merited should require that type of mask.  Again, my kid lives in Germany, and there are places where a mask is required, and it must be a KN95 or similar.  It's not hard.

Also, you want to protect OTHERS?  "Get vaxed and wear an N95.  Period.  Done.  You are have taken the two most important and effective measures to ensure that others are protected."

Nothing is perfect.  No mask rule is going to be perfect.  But every fucking argument on this goddamned issue seems to devolve to the exact same conclusion: "thing X that you are proposing is perfectly 100% effective, so it's garbage and fuck it."  It's just goddamned stupid for stupid's sake.

I was reading about some engineers who were looking at the Saturn V, and in particular they were looking at the F-1 engine in order to reverse engineer it, because so much of it was customized, but not optimized.  In the example they were looking at, the fuel injector plate, which was drilled by hand, has a mistake in it where the guy stopped, and adjusted the spot and drilled again.   They didn't have the ability to model everything and optimize each piece.  They built the world's most powerful engine with 'good enough' work.   That was America.  That was ~55 years ago.   

Today's maga crowd has the fortitude of the Afghan National Army.   

 

[StassneyHorn 6540]

Sofi stadium is open air. Not a dome, a canopy

[Sawbonz 27436]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This idiocy is what I don't fucking get.

His entire stand is "you can't tell me what to do!  Everything is my choice!"

Yet the list of things you either have to do or have to give consent to in order to obtain an organ transplant -- setting aside the COVID vaccination requirement -- is 10 miles long.  Seriously, you are obligated to do any number of things, all the way down to minute details like "fast for 12 hours before surgery" and "be at the hospital at 5:00 am for intake and prep."  Does he say "NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO DO!" to those requirements, too?

It's fucking staggering moronic inconsistency.  But then, "Staggering Moronic Inconsistency" is probably going to be stamped on our coinage pretty soon, so what the fuck do I know?

Unrelated but fucked up healthcare story: my former scheduler’s son died right before Covid hit. 30’s type 1 diabetic since adolescence, didn’t take care of himself when a teen/young adult which is very common. After he matured and figured out he had to take care of himself it was too late, and kidneys eventually failed. End stage renal disease requiring dialysis makes you immediately eligible for Medicare thanks to some lawmaker’s kid getting renal failure back in the day. Which is important bc no way you can work a meaningful job when you have to be hooked up to the machine 8 hours 3 days a week plus feeling tired as shit the rest of the time.
 

So he gets Medicare and goes on dialysis for a few years and starts taking care of himself. got his sugars under control and made it to the top of the renal transplant list and is ready for a kidney, then finds out they kick you off Medicare 36 months after the transplant bc your renal failure is cured. No matter that you have to pay for super expensive anti rejection meds for the rest of your life and have high risk of winding up hospitalized periodically for rejection episodes or weird infections bc meds suppress your immune system. Guy has only ever done physical work, and will never get back to that, so he is looking at 36 months of “normal “ life and then likely losing the transplanted kidney due to no anti rejection meds and ending up back on dialysis. 
 

He took himself off the list and quit dialysis. Had 2 boys under 12 /not csb

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

2 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

“I was born free,” Carswell added. “I’ll die free.”

I was born covered in shit, piss, and blood, screaming my lungs out next to a naked woman. I suspect I'll die the same way.

“I was born not paying taxes and I’ll die not paying taxes.”

Is that how this works?

[David Dennison 18659]

1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

Everything within the state. Nothing outside the state. 

Hell, a bunch of workers rose up to unshackle their chains. I might as well put on the three arrows here. I'm not some socialist, but right now I'm alright with what these truckers are doing going against the mandate.

Even if it comes at the expense of taxpayers?

[smoky 837]

20 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Sofi stadium is open air. Not a dome, a canopy

I know, I think that would be an important separator, especially in an idyllic climate such as SoCal's, but LA County doesn't differentiate within their mandate.

WhenToWearAMask.pdf (lacounty.gov)

[Anastasis 23394]

25 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Unrelated but fucked up healthcare story: my former scheduler’s son died right before Covid hit. 30’s type 1 diabetic since adolescence, didn’t take care of himself when a teen/young adult which is very common. After he matured and figured out he had to take care of himself it was too late, and kidneys eventually failed. End stage renal disease requiring dialysis makes you immediately eligible for Medicare thanks to some lawmaker’s kid getting renal failure back in the day. Which is important bc no way you can work a meaningful job when you have to be hooked up to the machine 8 hours 3 days a week plus feeling tired as shit the rest of the time.
 

So he gets Medicare and goes on dialysis for a few years and starts taking care of himself. got his sugars under control and made it to the top of the renal transplant list and is ready for a kidney, then finds out they kick you off Medicare 36 months after the transplant bc your renal failure is cured. No matter that you have to pay for super expensive anti rejection meds for the rest of your life and have high risk of winding up hospitalized periodically for rejection episodes or weird infections bc meds suppress your immune system. Guy has only ever done physical work, and will never get back to that, so he is looking at 36 months of “normal “ life and then likely losing the transplanted kidney due to no anti rejection meds and ending up back on dialysis. 
 

He took himself off the list and quit dialysis. Had 2 boys under 12 /not csb

Medicare coverage rules for ESRD and a lot of other shit make absolutely zero sense. 

[Captainant 27464]

3 hours ago, Incredulity said:

So when she's saying "their friends in the media" you're really not going to acknowledge the dog whistle for "the jews"? This is old fascist playbook

[Anastasis 23394]

54 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Sofi stadium is open air. Not a dome, a canopy

Do the "rules" in CA make such a distinction. 

[Incredulity 11555]

7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

So when she's saying "their friends in the media" you're really not going to acknowledge the dog whistle for "the jews"? This is old fascist playbook

Ahhh…the all too predictable leftist pivoting to claims of anti-semitism when it’s politically expedient.

[David Dennison 18659]

5 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Ahhh…the all too predictable leftist pivoting to claims of anti-semitism when it’s politically expedient.

Ahhh . . . the all too predictable right winger ironically complaining about political expediency.

[smoky 837]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Do the "rules" in CA make such a distinction. 

They do!  I'm glad you asked.  The rules were updated 1/18/22.

In SoFi stadium, you would not have to wear a mask if:

• You were showering or swimming
• There were fewer than 5,000 in attendance
• You were getting a shave
• You were alone
• Actively eating ("This means that you can briefly remove your mask when you are actually eating or drinking but you must put it back on immediately afterwards. You must also wear a mask when you are waiting to be served, between courses or drinks, and while seated after finishing your food or drink.")

 

[Anastasis 23394]

1 minute ago, smoky said:

They do!  I'm glad you asked.  The rules were updated 1/18/22.

In SoFi stadium, you would not have to wear a mask if:

• You were showering or swimming
• There were fewer than 5,000 in attendance
• You were getting a shave
• You were alone
• Actively eating ("This means that you can briefly remove your mask when you are actually eating or drinking but you must put it back on immediately afterwards. You must also wear a mask when you are waiting to be served, between courses or drinks, and while seated after finishing your food or drink.")

 

Curious how these public health orders work. 

[Incredulity 11555]

6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Curious how these public health orders work. 

Poorly, see photo of Newsom above.

[achooloco 1065]

5 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Fuck off, people are tired. You got Canada out on the streets in below freezing weather to scare their Prime Minister to play sick, even though he doesn't have to. You have countries getting rid of mandates, and states as well. You have people who play scared go out twice to defy Thier own laws. This is over. 

 

I don’t give a fuck. It’s ONLY over personally if you are smart enough to vaxx AND have the luck to not live a red ass fuck district overrun by dumb shits straining the health care system. 

Both sides/WE want it over but a good portion of this country is too fucking dumb and selfish to do what Is necessary to end it. So I’ll repeat what I posted on The Who is vaxxed thread back in spring 2021, fuck’em.
 

Let them go Amish and start their own society or let them die slow at home. I’m done with them (again). 

[achooloco 1065]

38 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Ahhh…the all too predictable leftist pivoting to claims of anti-semitism when it’s politically expedient.

You might be right but do you have a legit suggestion for whom she could be referencing? Let’s hear it. 

[Anastasis 23394]

Lulz.

 

[achooloco 1065]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Lulz.

 

That guy went an aggy equivalent college, right? 

Edited February 1, 2022 by achooloco

[Incredulity 11555]

2 minutes ago, achooloco said:

You might be right but do you have a legit suggestion for whom she could be referencing? Let’s hear it. 

CBC.  They have gone all in on the nazi/confederate flag narrative.

[Neonmoon 38127]

6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Lulz.

 

Where’s the tussin?

[Anastasis 23394]

Just now, Neonmoon said:

Where’s the tussin?

Based on their pricing model, if they had any it would be $80 a bottle. 

[TheRealRonWeaver? 1258]

12 minutes ago, achooloco said:

You might be right but do you have a legit suggestion for whom she could be referencing? Let’s hear it. 

They're referring to the Jews.

[workswithseed 2037]

2 minutes ago, TheRealRonWeaver? said:

They're referring to the Jews.

Y'all are hearing something that isn't being indicated. Especially since CBC is probably what they're talking about. 

[TheRealRonWeaver? 1258]

Just now, workswithseed said:

Y'all are hearing something that isn't being indicated. Especially since CBC is probably what they're talking about. 

I might be wrong. Those Confederate flags and swastikas might have been upside down in a show of solidarity with oppressed peoples.

[Willfully Horn 7915]

3 hours ago, Incredulity said:

He’s down there showing off a development/revitalization project that he has undoubtedly been greased 6 figures on.

So, now he’s your hero, too?

[achooloco 1065]

18 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

CBC.  They have gone all in on the nazi/confederate flag narrative.

I have no idea what this means.

She supposedly tweeted “Don’t be fooled! The Liberals and “the CBC” in the media are misleading the public about what’s really happening on Parliament Hill.” What’s the cbc?

[Incredulity 11555]

Canadian Broadcast Corporation.

 

[achooloco 1065]

2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Canadian Broadcast Corporation.

 

Negged for a bullshit answer. You and dumb fuck seed grower have the talking points down but I asked an honest question since us normal human folk have no fucking clue what tucker, Alex jones, and their dumb fuck ilk mean by cbc. Do you have a real answer yet or nah? 

[Incredulity 11555]

4 minutes ago, achooloco said:

Negged for a bullshit answer. You and dumb fuck seed grower have the talking points down but I asked an honest question since us normal human folk have no fucking clue what tucker, Alex jones, and their dumb fuck ilk mean by cbc. Do you have a real answer yet or nah? 

It’s a straight answer.  The CBC is pushing Trudeau’s narrative that the Freedom Truckers are fringe lunatics.  There are videos all over the twatter of the protest being entirely peaceful and the images of nazi/confederate flag being singular. 

[achooloco 1065]

20 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

It’s a straight answer.  The CBC is pushing Trudeau’s narrative that the Freedom Truckers are fringe lunatics.  There are videos all over the twatter of the protest being entirely peaceful and the images of nazi/confederate flag being singular. 

Well fuck me. Mea culpa. You meant the actual fucking Canadians. Negged retracted, I apologize. 

I have not seen the videos but have seen headline excerpts that the protests were peaceful (very Canadian stereotype if you will) but I have not heard of any southern/nazi flags; that said, the flags were singular? Not sure what that means.