CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,854]

3 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Come on man, you have a number.  You want it to be bad enough to where Trump doesn't look like a hero. Be honest.

Fuck you loser. 

[gmr548 16,681]

Come on man, you have a number.  You want it to be bad enough to where Trump doesn't look like a hero. Be honest.

Lol. Trump is never going to look like a hero. We had months of warning before we got here. He did nothing with it. Actively obstructed attempts to prepare and contain.

Go back to texags.

[henrygandorf 29,223]

6 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Come on man, you have a number.  You want it to be bad enough to where Trump doesn't look like a hero. Be honest.

trump could literally bring the 115+ back from the dead on live tv and he still wouldn't look like a hero.  that dream was shattered long ago, sorry to say.

[DixonHur 11,942]

Pokoloco dropped in like..

[washparkhorn 9,967]

 

[Pokoloco 1,292]

6 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

trump could literally bring the 115+ back from the dead on live tv and he still wouldn't look like a hero.  that dream was shattered long ago, sorry to say.

How can you all underestimate the American public like this?  Anything less than 100K, he's the goddam messiah.

[A-Tex Devil 2,492]

7 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Fox News is culpable.

[Pokoloco 1,292]

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

Pokoloco dropped in like..

Ahh, I've never really been in here.  Sweet Jesus. Enter at your own risk indeed.

[TwiceHorn 31,992]

1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

No, the company is a patent troll called Labrador Diagnostics LLC which is owned by SoftBank.  

The Italians are the good guys for once.

Two entirely different cases.

Labrador sued a diagnostics manufacturer under patents it bought from Theranos (LOL) for a machine unrelated to coronavirus.  The manufacturer has a coronavirus test pending, but it's unclear whether that machine is involved.

Judging by the complaint and the lawyers involved, the lawsuit was in the works for months before filing.

I don't see the "Italian" company identified anywhere, but that's a whole different deal.

Edited March 18, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[TheRealRonWeaver? 1,274]

1 minute ago, Pokoloco said:

Ahh, I've never really been in here.  Sweet Jesus. Enter at your own risk indeed.

If you never came back, you wouldn't be missed.

[henrygandorf 29,223]

3 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

How can you all underestimate the American public like this?  Anything less than 100K, he's the goddam messiah.

you're underestimating the american public's intelligence and bullshit meters.  your assertion is an insult to the american people.

if 1 person dies, he'll take credit and say he's doing a tremendous job.  if 1 million people die, he'll throw blame at everyone else and say he's doing a tremendous job.

for 3 years we've heard that "at least the stock market is way up".  what now?

 

[henrygandorf 29,223]

5 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Ahh, I've never really been in here.  Sweet Jesus. Enter at your own risk indeed.

this might be a safer space for you:

padded walls and such.

['stache 22,117]

5 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

How can you all underestimate the American public like this?  Anything less than 100K, he's the goddam messiah.

He's already a messiah to his bootlicking cultists. Nothing will change that. Everyone else has seen him bungle his way through this like an incompetent moron, downplaying it for weeks, no lying and saying he knew it was a pandemic before it was a pandemic, and continuing to insult people on twitter because that's just what he does. The number of deaths is irrelevant at this point politically. His followers will support him. Everyone else knows he is is a shitstain on society. There could be 5 million deaths and he'll say how great he is that it wasn't 10 million. His cultists will love him. He's toast in November. I'm finally starting to feel better about that.

[DixonHur 11,942]

6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Two entirely different cases.

Labrador sued a diagnostics manufacturer under patents it bought from Theranos (LOL) for a machine unrelated to coronavirus.  The manufacturer has a coronavirus test pending, but it's unclear whether that machine is involved.

Yeah, I read up some more and figured it out after posting, but topic had moved on, so I did too

Edited March 18, 2020 by DixonHur
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[tantric superman 4,668]

People need to stop being surly and all. 

We are here to help each other, because inside every American there is a somewhat intelligent person trying to get out.

It's a hardball world, boys. We've gotta keep our heads until this corona blows over.

[4th&Five 41,904]

 

[sidis 9,990]

2 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

People need to stop being surly and all. 

We are here to help each other, because inside every American there is a somewhat intelligent person trying to get out.

It's a hardball world, boys. We've gotta keep our heads until this corona blows over.

man, i can't imagine what it is like to be you right now.  your wife was too scared to leave her hotel room and walk through central park in the day time before all this.  I suspect you are being absolutely run down right now.  hang in there.

[Nivek 17,330]

Fox News is culpable.

They should be heavily fined if not imprisoned for their complicity in spreading misinformation.

[Biff Tannen 46,061]

49 minutes ago, Xian said:

This will officially make him the worse president of all time. 

Was this in doubt before?

[Biff Tannen 46,061]

16 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

 

But...but maybe it will trickle down?

[Nivek 17,330]

8 hours ago, Anastasis said:

We are close to a post GOP and post Democrat world. 

Baby and the bath water.  Corporal Both-sides strikes again.

[Fozzz 152]

If those firms want relief then it better come with only the exchange of voting shares.  

Edited March 18, 2020 by Fozzz

[Biff Tannen 46,061]

17 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Ahh, I've never really been in here.  Sweet Jesus. Enter at your own risk indeed.

lol, I remember by first foray into this madness.  Came in on the old site quoting Thomas Friedman or somesuch.  Yikes.

[Fozzz 152]

lmao imagine believing this

 

[DixonHur 11,942]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Was this in doubt before?

So this is what the last straw was for some people...."everything Trump's done up to this point has been well above board, but the plague...yeah, that's just a bridge too far for me"

Saddest part is there are many others who still think he's doing a heck of a job...I'm looking at you Sack

Edited March 18, 2020 by DixonHur

[Fozzz 152]

Trump's admin has obviously been a colossal failure at ensuring enough people are being tested, but I wouldn't bet on the public being able to by-and-large make that connection given the media that many of them consume, and the impotent, incompetent dems will surely fail to make the case on their own.  Demand-side stimulus is a lot more visible to voters and the Republicans appear to understand this more than at least the congressional dem leadership.  

[henrygandorf 29,223]

1 hour ago, Xian said:

This will officially make him the worse president of all time. 

i gotta admit, i didn't know much about william howard taft.  but i was watching the cnn "race for the white house" docuseries, which is actually pretty entertaining.  apparently taft wasn't really a politician, but had a pretty good sized ego.  he was also incredibly fat, but didn't sleep well, so during the afternoon meetings, he would often lose focus and drift off.  because of this, he typically spent his afternoons puttering around the golf course.  ultimately, he got challenged by several people looking to take over, but the system was pretty rigged in his favor so he maintained the gop nomination.  regardless, a democrat beat him and ensured he only served one term.

the good old days, amirite?

[tantric superman 4,668]

12 minutes ago, sidis said:

man, i can't imagine what it is like to be you right now.  your wife was too scared to leave her hotel room and walk through central park in the day time before all this.  I suspect you are being absolutely run down right now.  hang in there.

Ha.  She had a great time. Still would not go down into the subway, but walked around central park on her own, and get this - walked down into Times Square and the theater district AT NIGHT.  

I'm bummed because I'm convinced I am going to die, chocking with my lungs clogged, within the next 45 days.  Anything other than that will be gravy.

[henrygandorf 29,223]

1 minute ago, tantric superman said:

I'm bummed because I'm convinced I am going to die, chocking with my lungs clogged, within the next 45 days.  Anything other than that will be gravy.

having your lungs clogged with gravy doesn't sound like a horrible way to go.

[tantric superman 4,668]

Just now, henrygandorf said:

having your lungs clogged with gravy doesn't sound like a horrible way to go.

Aspirated gravitas?

 

[Gil Bang 26,177]

3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I do like what some chains are doing in relation to old people.  They're giving them an early time slot.  (They wake up early anyway.)  I wish they'd all do that.

here in SoCal, it was a mexican grocer, Northgate Market, that started it.  Now others are following. 

[bad_teammate 13,481]

6 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Demand-side stimulus is a lot more visible to voters and the Republicans appear to understand this more than at least the congressional dem leadership.  

Would be very cool if the nominee DID understand it and would offer leadership on it.

But the voters have made their choice and we will learn and accomplish nothing.

[4th&Five 41,904]

 

[RomaVicta 30,503]

53 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Come on man, you have a number.  You want it to be bad enough to where Trump doesn't look like a hero. Be honest.

I suppose that number would be higher than the tens of thousands Trump and FOX were fine with when they were saying this wasn't any worse than the flu.

Edited March 18, 2020 by RomaVicta

[kevwun 16,269]

Whole Foods is doing the early open for the olds.  They are also letting their employees shop after hours.

Edited March 18, 2020 by kevwun

[Tuco 5,093]

It's looking like Italy will blow past China's reported death toll tomorrow.  Still waiting for Italy to plateau.  

 

[4th&Five 41,904]

With our population we’ll be looking at a 9/11 death toll daily for a while. Hope I’m wrong. 

[workswithseed 2,201]

38 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Ahh, I've never really been in here.  Sweet Jesus. Enter at your own risk indeed.

They're scared and only know how to lash at people. Trump started off bad, but he's changed and doing much better. 

[washparkhorn 9,967]

We Were Warned:

"We were warned in 2012, when the Rand Corporation surveyed the international threats arrayed against the United States and concluded that only pandemics posed an existential danger, in that they were “capable of destroying America’s way of life.”

We were warned in 2015, when Ezra Klein of Vox, after speaking with Bill Gates about his algorithmic model for how a new strain of flu could spread rapidly in today’s globalized world, wrote that “a pandemic disease is the most predictable catastrophe in the history of the human race, if only because it has happened to the human race so many, many times before.” If there was anything humanity could be certain that it needed to prepare for to prevent the deaths of a lot of people in little time, it was this.

We were warned in 2017, a week before inauguration day, when Lisa Monaco, Barack Obama’s outgoing homeland-security adviser, gathered with Donald Trump’s incoming national-security officials and conducted an exercise modeled on the administration’s experiences with outbreaks of swine flu, Ebola, and Zika."

And:

"When the virus was first detected in China, [Eric Toner, a senior scholar at the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University] told me, a more prepared U.S. government would have immediately begun bracing for the “inevitable arrival of the disease” by bolstering hospitals and helping state and local governments implement the social-distancing and other mitigation measures they are now scrambling to put in place. “It would have been much easier to do those things with more time than we have now,” he explained.

The irony is that this is all occurring in a country, the United States, that for decades “has been a leader in pandemic preparedness,” Toner said. “We were better prepared than others,” he acknowledged, “but no one, no country, is prepared for what we’re seeing now.”'

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/pandemic-coronavirus-united-states-trump-cdc/608215/

 

[Gil Bang 26,177]

2 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Jesus--he really, really doesn't have the first clue how tariffs work.  He genuinely doesn't know that they're paid by American consumers.

Sure he does.  He's been told.  But he know that his idiot followers do not know how they work, so he'll keep repeating it. 

1 hour ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Lets wait and see if this doesn't get walked back.

Also - this is only for HUD properties.

Fannie and Freddie too. 

[Pokoloco 1,292]

45 minutes ago, TheRealRonWeaver? said:

If you never came back, you wouldn't be missed.

Yes, of course.  Gotta keep this an echo chamber. 

[Pancho 46,056]

6 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

They're scared and only know how to lash at people. Trump started off bad, but he's changed and doing much better. 

Who is "they?"

Yes he did, but no he did not and no he isn't. 

[Ghost of LL 15,664]

7 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

They're scared and only know how to lash at people. Trump started off bad, but he's changed and doing much better. 

You damn with faint praise.

[Pancho 46,056]

 

 

[TheRealRonWeaver? 1,274]

2 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Yes, of course.  Gotta keep this an echo chamber. 

Not an echo chamber, just an absence of dipshittery, preferably.

Edited March 18, 2020 by TheRealRonWeaver?

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2,649]

36 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Was this in doubt before?

Not for half America. But the other half moved him.

 

due to his lack of planning both sides will eventually hate him 

[washparkhorn 9,967]

Second wave of cases hitting Singapore, Taiwan and Hong Kong:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/singapore-taiwan-and-hong-kong-face-second-wave-of-coronavirus-cases-11584445836

 

[workswithseed 2,201]

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Who is "they?"

Yes he did, but no he did not and no he isn't. 

"They" is people who are scared and only know how to yell.

2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

You damn with faint praise.

Yeah.

Edited March 18, 2020 by workswithseed

[cactusflinthead 27,626]

Cross posting from the bailout thread 

This is starting to get traction imo 

 

[Gil Bang 26,177]

It's my position that Trump is making some really good moves...moves that he should have made a month ago.