CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

[sidis 9774]

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[Jive Turkey 12575]

3 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Collin County is going to have a very interesting next few election cycles.  It is just itching to turn blue.

tons of Asians have set up shop there in the last decade.  some of the absolute best Asian food in the Metroplex is in Plano.   and more recently, so many Californians buying up big ass houses in Frisco.  but, i'll see believe it when i see it.

['stache 21778]

If the entire country sheltered in place for three weeks, I can see the possibility of returning to some sense of normalcy in three weeks for easter, but otherwise, with all these patchwork social distancing recommendations and orders from states and municipalities, I just don't see it for at least a month or two.

Edited March 24, 2020 by 'stache

[Dahobbs 17497]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

If the entire country sheltered in place for three weeks, I can see the possibility of returning to some sense of normalcy in three weeks, but otherwise, with all these patchwork social distancing recommendations and orders from states and municipalities, I just don't see it for at least a month or two.

Don't suggest that in the DT thread. Apparently, that concept is political. 

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

[henrygandorf 29183]

4 minutes ago, sidis said:

just got this email from nutty gun outlet that doesn't actually update their preferences.  solid marketing efforts here.  definitely very responsible.

holy shit (said in john oliver voice).

hey, we know the thought of shooting someone is scary, so instead, buy the "execution torch".  now half off.

good lord we deserve what we're getting.

[4th&Five 41474]

Edited March 24, 2020 by 4th&Five

['stache 21778]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Don't suggest that in the DT thread. Apparently, that concept is political. 

They think everything is "CR." Since the trumpists have very little relevant or factual fodder to pump their guy up, they abandoned this place a long time ago. Therefore, since we don't all hail dear leader here, we are an "echo chamber" that they don't like. It's so obvious which of the "no CR!" people are trumpists who are ironically cloaking the shit out of things when they try to run off any bit of criticism of our country's poor resopnse to this crisis.

[Pig Bellmont 8695]

10 minutes ago, LABEVO said:

People are freaking out by this announcements but are forgetting that all the limitations on movement of people are happening at the city and state level. The Federal government has almost done 0 to restrict movement of people...

Hold on sport. A lot of local governments, courts, and others are making distancing policies based on CDC guidelines, including the edict not to have more than 10 people in a single gathering. You take away those guidelines and those measures could evaporate 

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

[jimmyjazz 45616]

I'd like to put some flavor on the right-wing calculations that clearly indicate there is an acceptable additional death rate as a tradeoff to current economic shutdown.

 

A little googling tells me: 

GDP per capita = $60K

Average worker age = 42 years

Therefore, the average worker will work another 23 years before retirement (age 65).

 

So, if I calculate the future value of current GDP per capita, assuming a 3% inflation rate, at 23 years I get $1.97 per current dollar.  If I go out half that far (11 years), I get $1.38, so let's use that as some sort of "average" value of future lost GDP; i.e., $83K per person per year for 23 years.  That's $1.9M per death in lost GDP.

SO, if we lose 1M Americans this year, that's an additional $1.9T lost GDP over their (average) wage-earning lifetime.

 

Anyone want to take a crack at shooting holes in this analysis?  Anyone want to bet the administration hasn't even done this much chickenscratch analysis?

Fuck every one of them.  

 

 

[Captainant 27506]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

They think everything is "CR." Since the trumpists have very little relevant or factual fodder to pump their guy up, they abandoned this place a long time ago. Therefore, since we don't all hail dear leader here, we are an "echo chamber" that they don't like. It's so obvious which of the "no CR!" people are trumpists who are ironically cloaking the shit out of things when they try to run off any bit of criticism of our country's poor resopnse to this crisis.

I know I'm pissing in the wind in that thread, but holy shit it's bad. Any questioning of our collective response is met with hate 

[Gap03 3288]

5 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

tons of Asians have set up shop there in the last decade.  some of the absolute best Asian food in the Metroplex is in Plano.   and more recently, so many Californians buying up big ass houses in Frisco.  but, i'll see believe it when i see it.

Jive, how da you know so much about Frisco?

Sorry.  Couldn't help myself ...

[elfenix 34201]

britney spears embracing marxism is the future rage against the machine predicted

 

 

 

 

[LABEVO 928]

1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Hold on sport. A lot of local governments, courts, and others are making distancing policies based on CDC guidelines, including the edict not to have more than 10 people in a single gathering. You take away those guidelines and those measures could evaporate 

This is a good point. Localities tend to take guidance from the federal government. It does not REQUIRE localities to lift the restrictions but will likely result in many doing so. 

Cynic in me....maybe all the dumb Trumpers will get infected due to their stupidity to follow yellow cheeto.

[Brisketexan 104777]

I will admit that the cognitive dissonance from the modern Trumpist conservatives still baffles me.

On the one hand, things that are remote threats, unlikely to harm us -- MS-13, scary mooslems, etc. -- well, those things require DRASTIC government action, expenditure of billions, and if you aren't on board with being skeered to death of these things, you hate America.

On the other hand, an actual, documented threat that is killing Americans as we speak, and is statistically all-but-certain to kill many thousands of us (more than we lost in 9/11, Iraq, and Afghanistan combined)....well, let's slow our roll and reactions to this.  Folks like the Montgomery County judge saying "naah, no shelter in place for us," that kind of thing.

In summary, mostly imaginary threats = OMG, BUILD A WALL, check every mooslem, etc.  Real threat of deadly disease = quit your libtard overreaction.

What the fucking fuck is wrong with their fucking logic circuits?  What the fucking fuck?

[workswithseed 2042]

15 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

That's scary.

[4th&Five 41474]

 

[Brisketexan 104777]

5 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Disagree with the point about Biden.  He doesn't need to be out in a crowd -- he can speak from his home.  Regular addresses, talking about working with a leadership team to plan for our future -- we are going to need a REAL president when we come out of this.  Here's what I will do.  And here's what you, the people and local governments, can do to start getting us ready for that.

In the absence of real leadership, FUCKING LEAD.  Just do it.  Start acting like the president.  Fuck, somebody has to.

[lemonlime 5503]

5 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Hold on sport. A lot of local governments, courts, and others are making distancing policies based on CDC guidelines, including the edict not to have more than 10 people in a single gathering. You take away those guidelines and those measures could evaporate 

Even with the guidelines in place locally, what do people think is going to happen when trump's sycophants hear they should ignore the guidelines.  Especially after they've been cooped up for a few weeks.   It's hard enough getting people to stay the fuck home. We don't need the orange god adding to it.

[washparkhorn 9936]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I will admit that the cognitive dissonance from the modern Trumpist conservatives still baffles me.

On the one hand, things that are remote threats, unlikely to harm us -- MS-13, scary mooslems, etc. -- well, those things require DRASTIC government action, expenditure of billions, and if you aren't on board with being skeered to death of these things, you hate America.

On the other hand, an actual, documented threat that is killing Americans as we speak, and is statistically all-but-certain to kill many thousands of us (more than we lost in 9/11, Iraq, and Afghanistan combined)....well, let's slow our roll and reactions to this.  Folks like the Montgomery County judge saying "naah, no shelter in place for us," that kind of thing.

In summary, mostly imaginary threats = OMG, BUILD A WALL, check every mooslem, etc.  Real threat of deadly disease = quit your libtard overreaction.

What the fucking fuck is wrong with their fucking logic circuits?  What the fucking fuck?

With all sincerity, they had such ecstasy when Trump pulled off the greatest upset of all time in 2016, nothing else matters. They are the heroin addict who continues to chase the dragon. They believe they can experience that feeling again. (They can't). Just like a heroin addict, they will OD and destroy everyone around them before they do. 

They need help. 

[washparkhorn 9936]

If anyone wants to follow the disinformation campaign (no competing viewpoints and zero journalism) - 

 

[TexArcher 37645]

20 minutes ago, LABEVO said:

People are freaking out by this announcements but are forgetting that all the limitations on movement of people are happening at the city and state level. The Federal government has almost done 0 to restrict movement of people...

Fair point, but what's freaking me out is that the president continues to disagree with doctors during a medical emergency.

[4th&Five 41474]

 

[LABEVO 928]

#DieForTheDow is trending on twitter...

[henrygandorf 29183]

9 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

With all sincerity, they had such ecstasy when Trump pulled off the greatest upset of all time in 2016, nothing else matters. They are the heroin addict who continues to chase the dragon. They believe they can experience that feeling again. (They can't). Just like a heroin addict, they will OD and destroy everyone around them before they do. 

They need help. 

another couple weeks and we're all gonna need some fucking heroin.  i hear very good things.

[Don Johnson 4745]

 

[Brisketexan 104777]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

another couple weeks and we're all gonna need some fucking heroin.  i hear very good things.

Heroin?  Well, that's a pretty tall order...

[Ghost of LL 15500]

30 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

tons of Asians have set up shop there in the last decade.  some of the absolute best Asian food in the Metroplex is in Plano.   and more recently, so many Californians buying up big ass houses in Frisco.  but, i'll see believe it when i see it.

Those Asians have not been a reliable Democratic constituency.  A lot of the Vietnamese in particular tend to vote Republican (in a way that is similar to Cubans).  But I wonder if that isn't going to change with Trump's overt race-baiting with the "Chinese virus."

[Goredho 17367]

9 minutes ago, LABEVO said:

#DieForTheDow is trending on twitter...

Every trump tweet should be responded to en masse with #MagaPlease.

[henrygandorf 29183]

3 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Those Asians have not been a reliable Democratic constituency.  A lot of the Vietnamese in particular tend to vote Republican (in a way that is similar to Cubans).  But I wonder if that isn't going to change with Trump's overt race-baiting with the "Chinese virus."

separate question - did anyone ask trump why his label changed from "chinese virus" to "the terrible virus" yesterday?  after all the "do you think it's racist to call it chinese" and his defending/deflecting of his word-choice, you'd think someone would follow up.  i missed about 30 min after cnn cut away.

[conVINCEd 21468]

6 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Those Asians have not been a reliable Democratic constituency.  A lot of the Vietnamese in particular tend to vote Republican (in a way that is similar to Cubans).  But I wonder if that isn't going to change with Trump's overt race-baiting with the "Chinese virus."

My anecdotal observations lead me to believe that the largest influx in Frisco is the Indians.

[TwiceHorn 31348]

16 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Those Asians have not been a reliable Democratic constituency.  A lot of the Vietnamese in particular tend to vote Republican (in a way that is similar to Cubans).  But I wonder if that isn't going to change with Trump's overt race-baiting with the "Chinese virus."

Can't speak to modern Vietnamese-Americans, but historically there is no love lost between China and "Indochina."  And most Vietnamese-Americans, as well as Cambodian- and Laotian-Americans fled some aspect of a Chinese Communist supported government.  I'm not sure I'd assume that those Asians identify with Chinese or are in any way sympathetic to the Chinese government.

 

Also, I'm afraid that a lot of people that fled Communist regimes (Eastern and Central Europeans, Asians) are quite susceptible to the "socialism" rhetoric. 

Edited March 24, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[washparkhorn 9936]

Hell freezes over - Liz Cheney making sense:

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Jesus.

[Bullneck 19028]

47 minutes ago, 'stache said:

If the entire country sheltered in place for three weeks, I can see the possibility of returning to some sense of normalcy in three weeks for easter, but otherwise, with all these patchwork social distancing recommendations and orders from states and municipalities, I just don't see it for at least a month or two.

If only there was another government level with the most money and expertise, able to broadcast and dictate to the whole country!

[Gatorubet 30163]

Wow. Boomers don't love their children. Boomers don't care about the earth. Boomers are a homogenized group we should all hate. They sound kind of inhuman. I hear they have tails. In fact, I'm hearing that Boomers poisoned the wells to create this epidemic.

Well, that wells thing is right. Did you miss the Boomer meeting in December?

[Brisketexan 104777]

1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:

Jesus.

 

Cool.  Now do that comparing lives lost to coronavirus to lives lost to brown people.....hint, Donny....you ain't gonna like the math.

[DigDug 1666]

50 minutes ago, sidis said:

just got this email from nutty gun outlet that doesn't actually update their preferences.  solid marketing efforts here.  definitely very responsible.

 

 

What

The

Fuck

[Bama Chick 28596]

These assholes treat “the market” like a living, breathing thing.

[BrickHorn 18199]

27 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Holy shit.  What a dumbass.

[mchookem 16249]

43 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I know I'm pissing in the wind in that thread, but holy shit it's bad. Any questioning of our collective response is met with hate 

i've been seeing that and remarked earlier today...the most vocal 'cloak room! cloak room!' police in that thread are very familiar cloak room names lol 🙄

[cactusflinthead 27596]

6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Can't speak to modern Vietnamese-Americans, but historically there is no love lost between China and "Indochina."  And most Vietnamese-Americans, as well as Cambodian- and Laotian-Americans fled some aspect of a Chinese Communist supported government.  I'm not sure I'd assume that those Asians identify with Chinese or are in any way sympathetic to the Chinese government.

 

Also, I'm afraid that a lot of people that fled Communist regimes (Eastern and Central Europeans, Asians) are quite susceptible to the "socialism" rhetoric. 

True dat concerning SE Asia not liking or actively despising the Chinese. I have a friend on FB in Vietnam and she really likes Trump simply because he is against the Chinese. The ones that live here and are catching hell because Bubba says they all look alike may not be as enthusiastic. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20354]

Republican Williamson County commissioner Brian Beathard with the hot take:

Edited March 24, 2020 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[cactusflinthead 27596]

 

[jimmyjazz 45616]

Does the Republican party simply attract stupid people, or do people just get stupid once they join the Republican party?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23366]

Voted for the racism, got blindsided by the genocide.

[wildcat09 29300]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

holy shit (said in john oliver voice).

hey, we know the thought of shooting someone is scary, so instead, buy the "execution torch".  now half off.

good lord we deserve what we're getting.

Those same people see no problem with sacrificing a couple million people for the sake of "The Economy".

[cactusflinthead 27596]

Ok then. Fine with me.