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2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Holy fuck.

Bbl I gotta go make some calls and hug someone 

My wife has been struggling to get her parents to take it seriously, her dad in particular. He refuses to slow down on outings and won’t wear a mask or gloves while doing so. His body is wrecked from the gulf war, all kinds of lung issues. I told my wife she needs to hug him and tell him goodbye every time she sees him because if he gets admitted no one will get to see him to say anything at that point. She told him that today and I think it finally sunk in. Her sister just had emergency surgery for a colon issue and they won’t let her husband in to see her, she’s recovering alone for 3-4 days. 

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On 3/27/2020 at 6:38 PM, F250 said:

The press sucks ass. I would pay good money to watch Lewis Black ask questions.

Do you want to watch Lewis have a coronary on live TV? He wouldn't get beyond the first five minutes of having to sit across from Dotard and listening to him lie. The man is a national treasure and we need him to be around for years to come.

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4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

3 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Fuck this shit. This should be the fucking lead every night. 

Amplify.

I used to talk about one of my friends who wasn't all that political but had voted for Trump? She has crossed over to the point that she called Cornyn and Cruz' offices and when she couldn't get through sent an email. This virus has her more politically aware to the point that she is watching C-Span and fact checking and actually calls me to ask if I saw such and such.. Could have knocked me over with a feather when she was saying some of her Facebook friends have blocked her. Eight months to hammer home the messaging and more people may awake from the cult. Don't count on them, but hammer it at them anyway so some of the stay at home Democrats and Independents get out and vote. The nation will need a lot of repair.

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7 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Sorry Houston if you want more tests, go fuck yourself. Feds tell Houston to buy their own tests or do without. 
 

 

So the plan is to bankrupt the largest blue cities and fund Florida? Funding the 'hold my beer' state seems like a very Trump thing to do with a little Stephen Miller martial law thrown in to deport the brown people.

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Some of the comments are pretty funny, too. It's nice to have a little bright spot amidst the storm. Random and not so random acts of kindness and spirit are important. The articles about suicides and depression reiterate that Obama's advice of looking out for each other is very important. Even the little things elevate our hopes.

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Um, yeah.  From February 7.   2 days after impeachment vote, and after Trump had been briefed on how bad this could be for the US.

https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-combat-the-novel-coronavirus/

 

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This week the State Department has facilitated the transportation of nearly 17.8 tons of donated medical supplies to the Chinese people, including masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials.  These donations are a testament to the generosity of the American people.

Today, the United States government is announcing it is prepared to spend up to $100 million in existing funds to assist China and other impacted countries, both directly and through multilateral organizations, to contain and combat the novel coronavirus.  This commitment – along with the hundreds of millions generously donated by the American private sector – demonstrates strong U.S. leadership in response to the outbreak.

 

 

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Hey, look, we send gear to Thailand as well:

From March 9:

 

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United States Agency for International Development (USAID) Regional Development Mission for Asia Mission Director Peter A. Malnak handed over personal protective equipment (PPE) to the Ministry of Public Health in Nonthaburi today as part of the United States’ assistance to Thailand to respond to novel coronavirus disease COVID-19, first identified in Wuhan, China. This assistance package comes at the request of the Thai Ministry of Public Health.

The equipment includes 10,000 gloves, 5,000 surgical masks, 5,000 surgical gowns, 5,000 respirator masks, 5,000 shoe covers, 5,100 surgical caps, 2,500 face shields, and 500 protective goggles. The Royal Thai Government will distribute this equipment to health clinics in areas in greatest need of the supplies. 

 

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Here's another, from just (checks notes) 11 days ago:

https://www.usaid.gov/kazakhstan/press-releases/mar-17-2020-united-states-supports-kazakhstan-efforts-contain-coronavirus

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Today, the United States through its Agency for International Development (USAID) handed over personal protective equipment (PPE) to the City Center for Ambulance Services in Nur-Sultan.  This equipment is part of the United States government’s early assistance to Kazakhstan to prepare for the potential spread of the novel coronavirus disease, COVID-19.  In addition to the PPE, USAID has also allocated additional funding to support Kazakhstan’s response to COVID-19.

The PPE provided by USAID includes 10,000 examination gloves, 10,000 masks, 1,400 isolation gowns, and 200 protective goggles. This equipment will subsequently be distributed to healthcare workers in regional centers and cities across Kazakhstan. It will protect and enable health workers in Kazakhstan to respond quickly and safely to treat COVID-19 patients. The donated PPE is vital to reduce the infection risk facing frontline health workers.

 

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1 hour ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

I saw this posted on the secrant, political forum, and definitely satire.

Jesus. Why do you hate yourself?

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

No discernible political difference: MA, ME, CO vs. FL. Really? Nothing you can think of?

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10 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Back on the "naming" topic (yeah, seems kinda quaint at this point) I was looking at scuba diving places in the Keys tonight and ran across this.  It's been a while since I hear the expression "Chi-Coms":

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Scuba Diving Charters in Key Largo, FL

Chinese Virus Situation

Due to the Chinese Virus Pandemic perpetrated upon the world by the actions of the third world Chinese Communists Dictators we are all unfortunately paying the price. The Chi-Coms efforts to conceal the crisis developing in their country by silencing their doctors until the pandemic had grown past containment has escalated the situation into the threat to civilization that we now face.

Monroe County has shut down all hotels in the county. Because of this and for the safety of our customers and staff we will be closed until this crisis has ended. We wish all of our divers the best of luck and urge you to be safe and protected until the China Virus disaster has passed. We have no ideal how long this will take but we won’t be accepting any bookings for departures occurring before June 1. You can email us your trip requests.

In the future, rest assured, that the Chi-Coms will pay the price for their behavior. We will contribute to the retribution by not carrying Chi-Com manufactured products when other alternatives are available. We proudly carry a majority of dive products manufactured in the USA and will continue to give precedence to American made products in the future. God Bless America and all of our citizens. Be safe.

Capt Larry

 

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Oh, hey, look here:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/coronavirus-emails-federal-health-official-warned-of-mask-and-glove-shortages-a-month-ago?ref=home

 

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A high-ranking federal official in late February warned that the United States needed to plan for not having enough personal protective equipment for medical workers as they began to battle the novel coronavirus, according to internal emails obtained by Kaiser Health News.

The messages provide a sharp contrast to President Donald Trump’s statements at the time that the threat the coronavirus posed to the American public remained “very low.” In fact, concerns were already mounting, the emails show, that medical workers and first responders would not have enough masks, gloves, face shields and other supplies, known as PPE, to protect themselves against infection when treating COVID-19 patients.

 

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The emails, part of a lengthy chain titled “Red Dawn Breaking Bad,” includes senior officials across the Department of Veterans Affairs, the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Health and Human Services, as well as outside academics and some state health officials. KHN obtained the correspondence through a public records request in King County, Washington, where officials struggled as the virus set upon a nursing home in the Seattle area, eventually killing 37 people. It was the scene of the first major outbreak in the nation.

 

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“We should plan assuming we won’t have enough PPE—so need to change the battlefield and how we envision or even define the front lines,” Dr. Carter Mecher, a physician and senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, wrote on Feb. 25. It would be weeks before front-line health workers would take to social media with the hashtag #GetMePPE and before health systems would appeal to the public to donate protective gear.

In the email, Mecher said confirmed-positive patients should be categorized under two groups with different care models for each: Those with mild symptoms should be encouraged to stay home under self-isolation, while more serious patients should go to hospital emergency rooms.

 

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“The demand is rising and there is no guarantee that we can continue with the supply since the supply-chain has been disrupted,” Eva Lee, director of the Center for Operations Research in Medicine and HealthCare at Georgia Tech and a former health scientist at the Atlanta VA Medical Center, wrote that same day citing shortages of personal protective equipment and medical supplies. “I do not know if we have enough resources to protect all frontline providers.”

Reached on Saturday, Lee said she isn’t sure who saw the message trail but “what I want is that we take action because at the end of the day we need to save patients and health care workers.” 

Mecher, also reached Saturday, said the emails were an “an informal group of us who have known each other for years exchanging information.” He said concerns aired at the time on medical protective gear were top of mind for most people in health care. More than 35 people were on the email chain, many of them high-ranking government officials.

The same day Mecher and others raised the concern in the messages, Trump made remarks to a business roundtable group in New Delhi, India.

“We think we’re in very good shape in the United States,” he said, noting that the U.S. closed the borders to some areas. “Let’s just say we’re fortunate so far. And we think it’s going to remain that way.”

The White House declined to comment. In a statement, VA press secretary Christina Mandreucci said, “All VA facilities are equipped with essential items and supplies to handle additional coronavirus cases, and the department is continually monitoring the status of those items to ensure a robust supply chain.”

Doctors and other front-line medical workers in the weeks since have escalated concerns about shortages of medical gear, voicing alarm about the need to protect themselves, their families and patients against COVID-19, which as of Saturday evening had sickened more than 121,000 in the United States and killed at least 2,000.

As Mecher and others sent emails about growing PPE concerns, HHS Secretary Alex Azar testified to lawmakers that the U.S. had 30 million N95 respirator masks stockpiled but needed 300 million to combat the outbreak. Some senior U.S. government officials were also warning the public to not buy masks for themselves to conserve the supply for health care providers.

U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted on Feb. 29: “Seriously people - STOP BUYING MASKS!  They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!” 

Still, on Feb. 27, the FDA in a statement said that officials were not aware of widespread shortages of equipment.

“We are aware of reports from CDC and other U.S. partners of increased ordering of a range of human medical products through distributors as some healthcare facilities in the U.S. are preparing for potential needs if the outbreak becomes severe,” the agency said.

Simultaneously, Trump downplayed the risk of the novel coronavirus to the American public even though the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was warning it was only a matter of time before it would spread across the country. On Feb. 29, the CDC also updated its strategies for health workers to optimize supplies of N95 masks.

An HHS spokesperson said Saturday the department has been in “an all-out effort to mobilize America’s capacity” for personal protective equipment and other supplies, including allowing the use of industrial N95 respirators in health care settings and awarding contracts to several private manufacturers to buy roughly 600 million masks over the next 18 months.

“Health care supply chains are private-sector-driven,” the spokesperson said. “The federal role is to support that work, coordinate information across the industry and with state or local agencies if needed during emergencies, and drive manufacturing demand as best we can.” 

The emails from King County officials and others in Washington state also show growing concern about the exposure of health care workers to the virus, as well as a view into local officials’ attempts to get help from the CDC.

In one instance, local medical leaders were alarmed that paramedics and other emergency personnel were possibly exposed after encountering confirmed-positive patients at the Life Care Center of Kirkland, the Seattle-area nursing home where roughly three dozen people have died because of the virus.

“We are having a very serious challenge related to hospital exposures and impact on the health care system,” Dr. Jeff Duchin, the public health officer for Seattle and King County, wrote in a different email to CDC officials March 1. Duchin pleaded for a field team to test exposed health care workers and additional support.

Duchin’s email came hours after a physician at UW Medicine wrote about being “very concerned” about exposed workers at multiple hospitals and their attempts to isolate infected workers.

“I suspect that we will not be able to follow current CDC [recommendations] for exposed HCWs [health care workers] either,” wrote Dr. John Lynch, medical director of employee health for Harborview Medical Center and associate professor of Medicine and Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the University of Washington. “As you migh [sic] imagine, I am very concerned about the hospitals at this point.”

Those concerns have been underscored with an unusual weekend statement from Dr. Patrice Harris, president of the American Medical Association, which represents doctors, calling on Saturday for more coordination of needed medical supplies.

“At this critical moment, a unified effort is urgently needed to identify gaps in the supply of and lack of access to PPE necessary to fight COVID-19,” the statement says. “Physicians stand ready to provide urgent medical care on the front lines in a pandemic crisis. But their need for protective gear is equally urgent and necessary.”

 

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15 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

“We should plan assuming we won’t have enough PPE—so need to change the battlefield and how we envision or even define the front lines,” Dr. Carter Mecher, a physician and senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, wrote on Feb. 25.

This is 3 days before the president was calling this a hoax at a rally in South Carolina.

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43 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

North Korea checking in.  Don't want to fall too far from the public consciosness:

 

 

 

Now they're just fucking with him.  Trump's head is going to explode.

God help us if we look back on today in two weeks and think, "Those were the salad days."

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