CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[Anastasis 23700]

18 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

No but they can be assigned to a system designed and successfully implemented by Republicans. A system with its overriding philosophy of every man for himself. A system that’s been in ascent for 40 years. A system that believes that greed, is good. A group which you at a minimum implicitly support, at least with your contrarian rhetoric on this board.  While dems are not perfect, at least its not the wholesale full throated advocacy of what got us to this point. 

Got any solutions to propose professor? 

Yes. I know that the guy who only started paying attention in late 2016, by his own admission, thinks that what I am taking about can be distilled to a Democrat vs Republican thing. 

[Bullneck 19454]

 

 

[SaucyJack 3517]

4 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Everybody else excited about this corrupt bunch of assholes rationing medical care??

America, fuck yeah!!

 

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

The United States of America is the back up.

57 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Has this been posted yet? I can't keep up with this thread.

 

 

 

Only once on this page, so your good.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

I had to cook dinner so I was listening to some of the press conference. I finally figured out why he has the business people on first. Everyone would change the channel after the doctors; you know, the people that actually KNOW about the PANDEMIC.

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

so once again, referring to trump as a "wartime president".  i get that this strokes his ego (why else do any of this?), but is that really something he considers resume-enhancing come november? 

losing a war against an invisible enemy - jan, 2020 - present 

This is all about being a GENERAL. A BIG BURLY GENERAL WHO DOESN'T CRY LIKE THOSE BIG BABIES WITH THE PRETTY RIBBONS AND SHINY MEDALS. SHINY MEDALS THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE BECAUSE....BONE SPURS. In other words, he wants a leg lamp, a major award that says he is the greatest who ever lived. Because his ego is F-R-A-G-I-L-E. That's Italian.

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

He's right that we are overly dependent on foreign countries in the case of a pandemic crisis. 

You're not wrong but we wouldn't be quite so dependent upon foreign countries if somebody hadn't been dragging their feet on enacting the powers to compel American companies to keep product here instead of giving them enough time to sell said product overseas and then jack up the price on the remaining inventory. Among other things.

59 minutes ago, F250 said:

It's the stockpile for the United States not the States. Wait, yeah this doesn't make sense.

When you have a slumlord supply chain manager, you get what daddy paid Harvard $2.5 million to gain admission and a degree for--someone who doesn't know jack shit.

[triplehorn 2664]

Again, within weeks of the outbreak, Taiwan mobilized national mask production capacity to 13 million masks per day. 

juice for the orange one > initiating maximum DPA generated mask capacity for Americans.  There is no excuse.  Negligent homicide doesn't adequately describe it..

[HenryJames 67116]

 

 

[Anastasis 23700]

Keith Jackson is an asshole. 

[henrygandorf 29223]

Just now, Anastasis said:

Keith Jackson is an asshole. 

*was

[BrickHorn 18426]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Keith Jackson is an asshole. 

Whoa, Nelly!

[4th&Five 41904]

 

[henrygandorf 29223]

he really needs to stop trying to make "p act" happen.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Top US twitter trend right now, when I want to cry but need an outlet knowing others share the feelings can give hope:

#1 Jared Kushner (sometimes paired with KushnerForPrison)

America's Son-in-Law is not fooling anyone about his capabilities as a Global Response Pandemic Manager.

 

[Jhawkmvp 1514]

8 hours ago, Goredho said:

I think he's keenly aware of the magnificence of Ivanka's manufactured tits.

"Look at these magnificent tits.  Glorious.  They don't have tits like this in China.  Only in America will you see tits like this, and that's a good thing, am I right?"

Not so fast. 

[Dbeasy 15527]

Look, a kid with a silver spoon in his mouth whose been given a real estate career by his relatives is the perfect resource for peace in the Middle East and stopping a pandemic. Quit complaining.

[Lurch 5949]

Look, a kid with a silver spoon in his mouth whose been given a real estate career by his relatives is the perfect resource for peace in the Middle East and stopping a pandemic. Quit complaining.

[Guest Lobo]

it's just fucking awesome that several million Americans think this is the right guy for the job.  Not all, not most, not many...but some of y'all deserve what's coming for you...

[henrygandorf 29223]

1 hour ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

Just a PSA. ESPN is replaying the greatest college game in history right now. Vince Young's UT vs USC.

the way things are going lately, we might fucking lose this game.

[David Dennison 19441]

 

[Grade of D as in David 13255]

8 minutes ago, Lurch said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've heard better rah rah speeches from Jr high football coaches.

[Francisco 2.0 32544]

 

 

[Ted Lange 16358]

So Hunter Biden getting a inconsequential  job on the board of a foreign oil company is an unforgivable sin to Republicans, but the are perfectly content with Trump naming his son in law, with zero relevant experience, getting named to help lead a pandemic, the likes of which the US hasn’t seen in over a 100 years.    
 

pretty much epitomizes MAGA and trump worship.  Sad!

Edited April 3, 2020 by Ted Lange

[Irwin F Fletcher 3555]

the way things are going lately, we might fucking lose this game.

Texas is up 23 - 17 in the 3rd qtr. Probably going to open it up right now. We got this.

[CooterBrown 18272]

[Bullneck 19454]

55 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

I had heard it was supposed to take the patients that would normally go to the hospitals that are now taking corona patients.  But 3 people?  Something's wrong.

[Ted Lange 16358]

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Yes. I know that the guy who only started paying attention in late 2016, by his own admission, thinks that what I am taking about can be distilled to a Democrat vs Republican thing. 

So instead of answering the question you deflect. That’s ok. 

Let me clarify something for you, I paid casual attention to politics before the rise of Donald Trump. But not enough so where I would bother to post on a longhorn message political board, much less even read it. If there was no trump you and me never even have an internet conversation. 

I became convinced in early 2016 that Trump might win, and that Hillary was a terrible candidate, and that I needed to do whatever minimal amount I could to prevent that, and that meant supporting Bernie, who for the most part his politics I didn’t agree with, but I didn’t care. Because I feared what a president trump would do to this country. 

I admit I didn’t think it would turn out this bad. 

[Francisco 2.0 32544]

 

 

[washparkhorn 9967]

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I had to cook dinner so I was listening to some of the press conference. I finally figured out why he has the business people on first. Everyone would change the channel after the doctors; you know, the people that actually KNOW about the PANDEMIC.

Agree. I only watch for the doctors.

 

[henrygandorf 29223]

1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

these aren't even satirical comics anymore.  that's basically a courtroom sketch.

[TwiceHorn 31992]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

JFC.

 

[cactusflinthead 27626]

 

[Francisco 2.0 32544]

 

 

[Woland 755]

 

Maybe we need to outsource data collection to Cambridge Analytica.

[Ted Lange 16358]

 

[henrygandorf 29223]

for those wondering about the backstory of oan getting booted from the briefing room...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/01/oan-white-house-correspondents-coronavirus-160598

rion violated the social-distancing guidelines...twice.  then reappears claiming to be a "guest of stephanie grisham" because of course she did.

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The statement did not name the outlet it was kicking out of the rotation, but only Chanel Rion, a correspondent for the fringe conservative cable channel One America News Network, was seen standing in the back of the room when the president called on her to ask a question.

Rion also attended the previous two days of news briefings, standing in the back of the back of the room on Tuesday. The Los Angeles Times reported on Wednesday that Rion was approached by a representative for the WHCA who asked her to leave because she wasn’t in the rotation to cover that evening’s briefing. Rion refused, saying she was there “as a guest of Stephanie Grisham,” the White House press secretary, according to the Times.

President Donald Trump has in recent months begun to single out the network for praise over its glowing coverage of his administration and strident defenses of the president. During Trump’s impeachment, Rion traveled to Ukraine with Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, where the two filmed a multipart series promoting unfounded conspiracy theories aimed at defending Trump against the allegations at the center of his impeachment.

Rion has most recently been panned for her line of questioning in daily briefings by the White House coronavirus task force. Several weeks ago, when Trump was under fire for referring to the novel coronavirus as the “Chinese virus” because of where it originated, Rion asked the president whether he believed it was racist to refer to “Chinese food” as such.

Edited April 3, 2020 by henrygandorf
added fun tweet

[henrygandorf 29223]

this tweet is from...today.

 

[Francisco 2.0 32544]

NY Times going hard in the paint this evening:

 

Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opinion/jared-kushner-coronavirus.html?algo=top_conversion&fellback=false&imp_id=633649374&imp_id=348426693&action=click&module=trending&pgtype=Article&region=Footer

 

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Reporting on the White House’s herky-jerky coronavirus response, Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman has a quotation from Jared Kushner that should make all Americans, and particularly all New Yorkers, dizzy with terror.

According to Sherman, when New York’s governor, Andrew Cuomo, said that the state would need 30,000 ventilators at the apex of the coronavirus outbreak, Kushner decided that Cuomo was being alarmist. “I have all this data about I.C.U. capacity,” Kushner reportedly said. “I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this. New York doesn’t need all the ventilators.” (Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top expert on infectious diseases, has said he trusts Cuomo’s estimate.)

 

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Even now, it’s hard to believe that someone with as little expertise as Kushner could be so arrogant, but he said something similar on Thursday, when he made his debut at the White House’s daily coronavirus briefing: “People who have requests for different products and supplies, a lot of them are doing it based on projections which are not the realistic projections.”

Kushner has succeeded at exactly three things in his life. He was born to the right parents, married well and learned how to influence his father-in-law. Most of his other endeavors — his biggest real estate deal, his foray into newspaper ownership, his attempt to broker a peace deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians — have been failures.

 

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Undeterred, he has now arrogated to himself a major role in fighting the epochal health crisis that’s brought America to its knees. “Behind the scenes, Kushner takes charge of coronavirus response,” said a Politico headline on Wednesday. This is dilettantism raised to the level of sociopathy.

 

Spoiler

The journalist Andrea Bernstein looked closely at Kushner’s business record for her recent book “American Oligarchs: The Kushners, the Trumps, and the Marriage of Money and Power,” speaking to people on all sides of his real estate deals as well as those who worked with him at The New York Observer, the weekly newspaper he bought in 2006.

Kushner, Bernstein told me, “really sees himself as a disrupter.” Again and again, she said, people who’d dealt with Kushner told her that whatever he did, he “believed he could do it better than anybody else, and he had supreme confidence in his own abilities and his own judgment even when he didn’t know what he was talking about.”

It’s hard to overstate the extent to which this confidence is unearned. Kushner was a reportedly mediocre student whose billionaire father appears to have bought him a place at Harvard. Taking over the family real estate company after his father was sent to prison, Kushner paid $1.8 billion — a record, at the time — for a Manhattan skyscraper at the very top of the real estate market in 2007. The debt from that project became a crushing burden for the family business. (Kushner was able to restructure the debt in 2011, and in 2018 the project was bailed out by a Canadian asset management company with links to the government of Qatar.) He gutted the once-great New York Observer, then made a failed attempt to create a national network of local politics websites.

His forays into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — for which he boasted of reading a whole 25 books — have left the dream of a two-state solution on life support. Michael Koplow of the centrist Israel Policy Forum described Kushner’s plan for the Palestinian economy as “the Monty Python version of Israeli-Palestinian peace.”

Now, in our hour of existential horror, Kushner is making life-or-death decisions for all Americans, showing all the wisdom we’ve come to expect from him.

“Mr. Kushner’s early involvement with dealing with the virus was in advising the president that the media’s coverage exaggerated the threat,” reported The Times. It was apparently at Kushner’s urging that Trump announced, falsely, that Google was about to launch a website that would link Americans with coronavirus testing. (As The Atlantic reported, a health insurance company co-founded by Kushner’s brother — which Kushner once owned a stake in — tried to build such a site, before the project was “suddenly and mysteriously scrapped.”)

The president was reportedly furious over the website debacle, but Kushner’s authority hasn’t been curbed. Politico reported that Kushner, “alongside a kitchen cabinet of outside experts including his former roommate and a suite of McKinsey consultants, has taken charge of the most important challenges facing the federal government,” including the production and distribution of medical supplies and the expansion of testing. Kushner has embedded his own people in the Federal Emergency Management Agency; a senior official described them to The Times as “a ‘frat party’ that descended from a U.F.O. and invaded the federal government.”

Disaster response requires discipline and adherence to a clear chain of command, not the move-fast-and-break-things approach of start-up culture. Even if Kushner “were the most competent person in the world, which he clearly isn’t, introducing these kind of competing power centers into a crisis response structure is a guaranteed problem,” Jeremy Konyndyk, a former U.S.A.I.D. official who helped manage the response to the Ebola crisis during Barack Obama’s administration, told me. “So you could have Trump and Kushner and Pence and the governors all be the smartest people in the room, but if there are multiple competing power centers trying to drive this response, it’s still going to be chaos.”

Competing power centers are a motif of this administration, and its approach to the pandemic is no exception. As The Washington Post reported, Kushner’s team added “another layer of confusion and conflicting signals within the White House’s disjointed response to the crisis.” Nor does his operation appear to be internally coherent. “Projects are so decentralized that one team often has little idea what others are doing — outside of that they all report up to Kushner,” reported Politico.

On Thursday, Governor Cuomo said that New York will run out of ventilators in six days. Perhaps Kushner’s projections were incorrect. “I don’t think the federal government is in a position to provide ventilators to the extent the nation may need them,” Cuomo said. “Assume you are on your own in life.” If not in life, certainly in this administration.

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by Francisco 2.0

[ChiTownDoc 21325]

You know there's a lot of stereotypes of dumbass yokels in the south (sorry Bama girl)...I know they're not all like that but people like this Georgia governor are doing the people down there no favors.  What a fucking dumbass.  It's one thing to be thought of as a possible dumbass, but to open your mouth and remove all doubt?  Well done, Governor, well fucking done. 

[henrygandorf 29223]

ivanka - hey honey, heard you had your first press briefing today, how'd it go?

kushner - have you read any of the articles or watched the news?

ivanka - nope.

kushner - then it went great!

[cactusflinthead 27626]

I have an overwhelming desire to pummel Kushner 

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Since some of you guys just love the forced choice dichotomy of our political system, I'll play. If the choice is between Xi and Abbott, I am good with the latter. 

I’ve thought long and hard to a response to this. And here’s what ‘I got.

 

[Bullneck 19454]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

the way things are going lately, we might fucking lose this game.

Good news.  We came back and won!

[staboner 5067]

55 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

You know there's a lot of stereotypes of dumbass yokels in the south (sorry Bama girl)...I know they're not all like that but people like this Georgia governor are doing the people down there no favors.  What a fucking dumbass.  It's one thing to be thought of as a possible dumbass, but to open your mouth and remove all doubt?  Well done, Governor, well fucking done. 

i honestly had my mutherfucking jaw agape on that one. i mean damn. takes a lot these days you know. just wow

[Francisco 2.0 32544]

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[4th&Five 41904]

 

[softlynow 1893]

The guy who first said “may you live in interesting times” can go fuck himself. 

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2692]

That article about Kushner is fucking terrifying and enraging. We are being ruled over by absolute psychos. Such a fucking creep. Patrick Bateman without the humor or irony.  

His fucking waxed eyebrows are the topping on the sociopathic cake.

[Anastasis 23700]

2 minutes ago, softlynow said:

The guy who first said “may you live in interesting times” can go fuck himself. 

Don't be such a pussy.  

[Post Oak 20551]

1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

 

I am not shocked by these lunatics rants.  They look exactly how I expect them to look

 

 

[Grade of D as in David 13255]

2 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

I am not shocked by these lunatics rants.  They look exactly how I expect them to look