CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[Nivek 17330]

By that logic God chose Obama as well.

Logic....republicans? Haha

[UDontKnow 10557]

5 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

Not saying she didn't have it, but people who think they have "lyme disease" tend to be a little nuts.

SIAP. But Hydroxychloroquine is not a standard treatment for Lyme Disease. Who is this crazy Congress woman from Michigan?

[F250 29175]

2 hours ago, Post Oak said:

Norway says they have CV under control.  Supposedly they locked down everything

From Dailymail FWIW

Norway announces it has 'brought coronavirus under control' after rate of new infections plummets

Norway says that its coronavirus outbreak is 'under control' after a dramatic fall in the rate at which new people have become infected. 

Health Minister Bent Hoie said the number of people that each carrier of the disease infects - thought to be around 2.5 without lockdown measures - has fallen to 0.7.

Anything under 1 means the disease has effectively stopped circulating and will start to die off.

Norway has got the virus under control by carrying out 101, 986 people for the virus - or 18,996 tests per million people compared to the UK's 2,250 tests per million - allowing it to quickly identify and quarantine those with mild symptoms and the people they have come into contact with.

The country also banned sports and cultural events and closed all educational institutions to bring the rate of transfer down.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192555/amp/Norway-announces-brought-coronavirus-control.html?__twitter_impression=true

This is all good but what happens when Frank Tagliano returns to Lilyhammer after visiting NYC?

 

[Born to Run 6598]

It should only be carried by cspan. 

CMT

[Bama Chick 28596]

This country is horrible.

[UDontKnow 10557]

3 hours ago, Post Oak said:

Norway says that its coronavirus outbreak is 'under control' after a dramatic fall in the rate at which new people have become infected. 

Health Minister Bent Hoie said the number of people that each carrier of the disease infects - thought to be around 2.5 without lockdown measures - has fallen to 0.7.

Anything under 1 means the disease has effectively stopped circulating and will start to die off.

Norway has got the virus under control by carrying out 101, 986 people for the virus - or 18,996 tests per million people compared to the UK's 2,250 tests per million - allowing it to quickly identify and quarantine those with mild symptoms and the people they have come into contact with.

The country also banned sports and cultural events and closed all educational institutions to bring the rate of transfer down.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192555/amp/Norway-announces-brought-coronavirus-control.html?__twitter_impression=true

This is great news! We need to get Bent!

Edited April 7, 2020 by UDontKnow

[Blotto 23974]

6 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

SIAP. But Hydroxychloroquine is not a standard treatment for Lyme Disease. Who is this crazy Congress woman from Michigan?

Im not even following this conversation in the thread, but based on your descriptor I'm going to guess Haley Stevens. She's a nutbag

https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles/news/ranting-michigan-congresswoman-refuses-to-yield-house-floor

[UDontKnow 10557]

2 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Im not even following this conversation in the thread, but based on your descriptor I'm going to guess Haley Stevens. She's a nutbag

https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles/news/ranting-michigan-congresswoman-refuses-to-yield-house-floor

It's actually Karen Whitsett.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/

I just don't know anything about her besides she's absolutely ignorant about Hydoxychloroquine, Coronavirus, Lyme Disease, and likely anything remotely related to the field of medicine. 

Sweatergawd, I'm sick of everyone playing medical doctors these days. In reality, physicians will admit when they don't know what is going on and call on their fellow physician colleagues to help out. Generally speaking, we don't talk out of our asses. /former premed rant.

[Fozzz 152]

Our one true hope. Lmao. 
 

 

[Blotto 23974]

4 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

This country is horrible.

 

 

Quote

A longtime Republican fundraiser sent an email to his clients on Thursday abruptly announcing that he would no longer be working for them.

The reason: He saw an opportunity to capitalize on the coronavirus response.

“Over the last 14 days I have built another business outside politics and will be focusing my full attention there,” he wrote in the email, which was obtained by POLITICO.

The fundraiser, Mike Gula, didn’t specify his new line of work in the email. But in an interview, he said he’d started a new company selling medical equipment that’s been in short supply during the coronavirus pandemic.

The company, Blue Flame Medical LLC, was formed Monday in Delaware, according to state records. Its website says it sells coronavirus testing kits, N95 respirator masks, “a wide selection” of personal protective equipment and other “hard to find medical supplies to beat the outbreak.”

Asked how he’d managed to procure such equipment when there are shortages in hospitals across the country, Gula said, “I have relationships with a lot of people.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/republican-fundraiser-company-coronavirus-152184

Its so brazen. No fucks given. You would think with an upcoming election they would try to be a bit discreet about shit like this. Its almost as if the GOP isnt really concerned about the upcoming election. 

[Fozzz 152]

China > US. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

3 minutes ago, Blotto said:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/republican-fundraiser-company-coronavirus-152184

Its so brazen. No fucks given. You would think with an upcoming election they would try to be a bit discreet about shit like this. Its almost as if the GOP isnt really concerned about the upcoming election. 

They aren't. And none of their voters have any way of hearing about bad things they do. Fox is a firewall. 

[David Dennison 19441]

Just now, Fozzz said:

China > US. 

Scorching hot.

[Pancho 46054]

9 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Our one true hope. Lmao. 
 

 

You were voting Trump regardless, so...

[Pancho 46054]

 

[Fozzz 152]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Scorching hot.

This crisis has brought into sharp relief how our time as global hegemon is over.  We are in severe decline. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by Fozzz

[Fozzz 152]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

You were voting Trump regardless, so...

You sound like a bot when post nonsensical crap like this. 

[BrickHorn 18425]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

They’re gonna sell all that hydroxychloroquine for 3 packs of cigarettes.  

[Pancho 46054]

 

[Upgrayedd 5861]

Just now, Pancho said:

 

No way.  

[ChiTownDoc 21323]

Lol @ that dumbass trumptard lady who died.  I normally don’t laugh at dead people, but when that person encouraged behavior endangering hundreds of others by spewing her bile all over...bye bitch.  

[BrickHorn 18425]

6 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

This crisis has brought into sharp relief how our time as global hegemon is over.  We are in severe decline. 

Huh.  I wonder why that is.  Oh well, at least that email bitch will never be president!

[David Dennison 19441]

4 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

This crisis has brought into sharp relief how our time as global hegemon is over.  We are in severe decline. 

We may be in decline, but we are still, without question, the global hegemon. That's just a fact.

[Pancho 46054]

9 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

You sound like a bot when post nonsensical crap like this. 

Botty bot bot 🤪

[Francisco 2.0 32543]

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[Cairn Horn88 8500]

4 hours ago, Chooky said:

He can't dispute a single detail in the HHS report other than to oint out that it comes from an Obama appointee. He has no idea how badly he's hurting himself with that illiterate sewer under his nose.

His base is too stupid to know any better.  They believe all his shit.

[burntorangebongos 10809]

And Navarro is still touting the orange shitbag's bullshit because he wants to further his own fortunes. He knows the truth but chooses to spout crap! Fuck this guy hard. He is as much of a grifter as Trump.  

 

Haha, it is breaking news now on CNN!!!! He told them in a memo it might cost Trillions of dollars and imperiling the lives of millions of Americans and it is dated January 29. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by burntorangebongos

[Anastasis 23699]

I don't think that anybody is going to make money hand over fist on a non-exclusive generic med such as HCQ.  The real money is going to be made if Gilead's or Genentech's or Regeneron's products hit.  Also anybody rolling out a rapid diagnostic. And whoever can bring a vax to market.  Especially whoever brings a vax to market. They will print money. Those are the places to keep your eyes on wrt the grift imo.  

Edited April 7, 2020 by Anastasis

[achooloco 1086]

On 4/5/2020 at 1:38 PM, zork said:

 

Because there is a pandemic going on and your city, NYC, is one of the worst hit regions in the country.

Nevermind, covered.

Edited April 7, 2020 by achooloco

[burntorangebongos 10809]

Right, we only know of the HCQ deal(if true), but there is likely a lot more. This is the biggest opportunity for grift while people are too busy being sick or dying . Or else having to file unemployment because they were laid off. The shit that is likely to come out that this administration is doing is going to be epic.  They are these type of shitbags so I will need to prepare for the fuckery that will come out. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by burntorangebongos

[Fozzz 152]

41 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Huh.  I wonder why that is.  Oh well, at least that email bitch will never be president!

I don’t think Trump entirely explains our near total inability to effectively address this crisis. How red is NYC?

[wildcat09 29556]

41 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We may be in decline, but we are still, without question, the global hegemon. That's just a fact.

Your schtick might be more tiresome than Anastasis’.

[Anastasis 23699]

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Your schtick might be more tiresome than Anastasis’.

[wildcat09 29556]

25 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I don't think that anybody is going to make money hand over fist on a non-exclusive generic med such as HCQ.  The real money is going to be made if Gilead's or Genentech's or Regeneron's products hit.  Also anybody rolling out a rapid diagnostic. And whoever can bring a vax to market.  Especially whoever brings a vax to market. They will print money. Those are the places to keep your eyes on wrt the grift imo.  

Donald Trump’s favorite form of abusing his power to enrich himself is to make the secret service rent fucking golf carts from him. It’s not like anything is too small time for him to throw billions of taxpayer dollars at.

[Anastasis 23699]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Donald Trump’s favorite form of abusing his power to enrich himself is to make the secret service rent fucking golf carts from him. It’s not like anything is too small time for him to throw billions of taxpayer dollars at.

Perhaps, but it makes less sense in the grand scheme of things than the crazy ass server conspiracy theories about transmissions of micro targeting data for Russian facebook campaigns about jerking off for jesus. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by Anastasis

[FondrenRoad 4378]

41 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We may be in decline, but we are still, without question, the global hegemon. That's just a fact.

Perhaps, but the rest of the world has been figuring out how to work around or bypass us pretty quickly.  Nobody is looking to us for covid leadership. Nobody.  That would have been unheard of only a few years ago.  The EU is doing this without us. So are Japan and Korea.  We can barely help ourselves. 

Our single "greatest" global influence is that we buy more shit and value materialism more than other cultures. Covid may kill that too. 

Our military, like most, is built to wreck middling countries, but MAD prevents anything from happening between real powers.

You are living in the past. 

[Brisketexan 106621]

I don't think that anybody is going to make money hand over fist on a non-exclusive generic med such as HCQ.  The real money is going to be made if Gilead's or Genentech's or Regeneron's products hit.  Also anybody rolling out a rapid diagnostic. And whoever can bring a vax to market.  Especially whoever brings a vax to market. They will print money. Those are the places to keep your eyes on wrt the grift imo.  

Wait till the admin decides to hamstring a viable vaccine effort that would compete with the horse they bet on. That’s when the fun REALLY begins.
This ends with guillotines. It’s actually becoming the only rational outcome.

[Fozzz 152]

9 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Perhaps, but the rest of the world has been figuring out how to work around or bypass us pretty quickly.  Nobody is looking to us for covid leadership. Nobody.  That would have been unheard of only a few years ago.  The EU is doing this without us. So are Japan and Korea.  We can barely help ourselves. 

Our single "greatest" global influence is that we buy more shit and value materialism more than other cultures. Covid may kill that too. 

Our military, like most, is built to wreck middling countries, but MAD prevents anything from happening between real powers.

You are living in the past. 

At this point, who do you think is going to come out on top in a military conflict over Taiwan?  We would be helpless in an extended conflict against a peer adversary. We are a total joke. 
 

Russia is a joke country with a decent military and a large nuclear arsenal. We will end up like them sooner or later. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by Fozzz

[FondrenRoad 4378]

22 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

At this point, who do you think is going to come out on top in a military conflict over Taiwan?  We would be helpless in an extended conflict against a peer adversary. We are a total joke. 
 

Russia is a joke country with a decent military and a large nuclear arsenal. We will end up like them sooner or later. 

China would win in Taiwan because we pretend Taiwan is worth nukes hitting Beijing and DC, but everyone knows we wouldn't do it. We wouldn't even bomb the Chinese mainland. We would completely tie our own hands just like we did in Vietnam and Korea. 

But China saber rattles too. They want Taiwan to rejoin in the way Hong Kong did. They don't want to have to burn it to the ground and kill everyone on it to get it done.  They aren't really going to do anything either. 

We aren't unlike Russia militarily as it is. We are built for meddling in small countries.  We also have way less of a stomach for real war. We could nuke Beijing or Moscow and they would keep coming. We don't have the stomach for a war that really hits home. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by FondrenRoad

[softlynow 1893]

44 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Wait till the admin decides to hamstring a viable vaccine effort that would compete with the horse they bet on. That’s when the fun REALLY begins.
This ends with guillotines. It’s actually becoming the only rational outcome.

If by guillotines you mean memes, sure. There will be memes. Devastating memes. Memes as far as the eye can see. Oh, what memes!

Either an election boots out Trumpism, or nothing does. And I’m not saying simply winning an election will be enough. If Trump maintains power past January, we’re probably fucked. His people will believe/go along with anything he says, and the rest aren’t prepared to do anything of consequence. Hell, some (Joe Rogan, b_t, anastasis) will justify their effective fellow travelling as usual.

It may come down to the military and/or the secret service. The people are doing jack shit.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20834]

1 hour ago, Fozzz said:

At this point, who do you think is going to come out on top in a military conflict over Taiwan?  We would be helpless in an extended conflict against a peer adversary. We are a total joke. 

 

It's incredible that Trump has brought us to the level of military inferiority that you imply in only three years and more so that he's been able to do so while outspending the Chinese 4.5  to one.  That's an astonishing level of incompetence, even by Trump standards. 

[DixonHur 11941]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

This ends with guillotines. It’s actually becoming the only rational outcome.

Guillotines seem a bit too good for this lot...I think hanged, drawn, and quartered is more appropriate.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

53 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

It's incredible that Trump has brought us to the level of military inferiority that you imply in only three years and more so that he's been able to do so while outspending the Chinese 4.5  to one.  That's an astonishing level of incompetence, even by Trump standards. 

A few things are wrong with your assessment. We are/were never going to win if China invades Taiwan and its not Trump's fault.

1) Our military spending has a ton of built-in waste with kickbacks, pork, and keeping multiple entire sectors of private industry employed singlehandedly. China's doesn't.  Our military is also overextended.  China's isn't.  Where dollars go matters more than total dollars spent.  And actual R&D matters.  It doesn't help that our entire technological supply chain is completely exposed to China either.  Do you think there is a single component on a Chinese military plane that was manufactured in the USA?   All that being said, we are still ahead of them, but more like 1.5 or 2 to 1 vs the 4.5 to 1 we spend.  Really, why do they need to spend as much as us?  They are in a perfect position for industrial espionage.  

2) Taiwan is 81 miles from the Chinese mainland.  For reference, Cuba is 103 miles from the USA.  China would have no chance at preventing us from invading Cuba.  And likewise, we would not be able to defend Taiwan without extending the war into mainland China.  If we did, China would respond by extending the war into mainland USA, but may strategically test the waters by nuking US overseas bases first, and would certainly extend the war into our local allies, Japan and South Korea.  So instead, we would try a purely oversea air and naval defense against the second strongest military in the world which would get to use their entire non-nuclear military capacity against that defense.  And the prospects get even worse if Japan declares neutrality and kicks our bases out.  The USA is simply not going to get into a global war over Taiwan and a global war is required for US victory.  Taiwan is really saving itself because they are set to fight until there is no Taiwan left, and China doesn't want that completely destroyed Taiwan anyway.  

3) There's really no point in us spending as much as we do other than using it as a jobs program.  We couldn't even go to war with France.  They have MAD too.  We could leave Japan and SK entirely, and China would saber rattle more, but they wouldn't do shit to Taiwan, Japan, or anyone else either.  Asia is stable.  Europe is stable.  Even South America is stable.  Our war machine is built for the Middle East and Africa alone.  We could do that at a quarter of the price.

[TXSG8R 3362]

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

I think they need to dig a layer deeper.  Rudy, Trump’s kids, Fox News hosts, all the republican impeachment bros.  Someone put the bug in his ear about this shit.  

[Hookah Horns 3089]

On 3/30/2020 at 4:21 PM, hayden_horn said:

 

I'm not really buying that trump is pumping hydroxy because a manufacturer of it is a holding in one of his mutual funds. The reason is much simpler: he's a dumbass who is desperate for anything positive to latch onto amidst the shit storm he's found/put himself in. 

Edit: how the fuck do you delete a quoted post for fucks sake

Edited April 7, 2020 by Hookah Horns

[FondrenRoad 4378]

37 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

I'm not really buying that trump is pumping hydroxy because a manufacturer of it is a holding in one of his mutual funds. The reason is much simpler: he's a dumbass who is desperate for anything positive to latch onto amidst the shit storm he's found/put himself in. 

Edit: how the fuck do you delete a quoted post for fucks sake

Yeah. He isn't just the snake oil salesman President. He is also the biggest client for other snake oil salesmen.  He really thinks Obama was born in Kenya. Still believes it even with all the records that the President can access. He doesn't profit from that belief at all. He has probably pulled every record he can from Hawaii, DC, and Kenya that prove his belief wrong. For him, that just makes it a bigger conspiracy and he still believes it. 

Not that he isn't a profiteer.  He is, but he is also a hardcore nutjob conspiracy theory believer even when he doesn't profit from it.  And all the conspiracy peddlers know that.  Someone like Dr Oz is profiting on this one. I actually think Trump would even spend his whole fortune and die poor to try to "prove" some of the anti-Obama conspiracies. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by FondrenRoad

[Pasken 1310]

27 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

 I’m still glad we’ve burned it all down! 

They’re still glad their president is white and not apologizing for it.

[Francisco 2.0 32543]

 

 

[Francisco 2.0 32543]

 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

8 hours ago, Anastasis said:

I don't think that anybody is going to make money hand over fist on a non-exclusive generic med such as HCQ.  The real money is going to be made if Gilead's or Genentech's or Regeneron's products hit.  Also anybody rolling out a rapid diagnostic. And whoever can bring a vax to market.  Especially whoever brings a vax to market. They will print money. Those are the places to keep your eyes on wrt the grift imo.  

Why not both? If the military can have a thousand dollar hammer, why can't the public and private prisons and every other entity overcharge for a pill that was a non-exclusive generic when all you have to do is nudge nudge wink wink land the contract? Who is going to stop you? Contribute to the Trump Family Syndicate and realize your riches. Don't forget to include the vigorish.