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I'd just like to point out that neither myself nor any of my fellow nurses, fellow advanced nurse practitioners, and other healthcare providers ever swore an oath that we would lay down our lives for

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Welp, it finally happened. I snapped in public today. I went into work for a bit this morning because I’m trying to figure out the safest way to host physicians we are recruiting given our CV-19 sit

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I don't really know what to say anymore tbh. What happened last night is hard to put into words for anyone who hasn't worked in a hospital healthcare setting. Just unreal. Everyone is getting fucked.

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I thought idiot Bill had the Rona at one point as he was acting like he was having issues in March or April? 

I love the I'm struggling to breathe with a mask on people when it's for a few minutes. What do they think doctors and nurses have to push past to have them on all fucking day? 

 

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https://reason.com/2020/07/01/covid-19-herd-immunity-is-much-closer-than-antibody-tests-suggest-say-2-new-studies/

COVID-19 Herd Immunity Is Much Closer Than Antibody Tests Suggest, Say 2 New Studies

If the findings are true, that's really great news.

 

The prevalence of immunity to the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 may be much higher than previous research suggests according to an intriguing new study by researchers associated with Karolinska Institute in Sweden. In addition, a new German study by researchers associated with the University Hospital Tübingen in Germany reports that people who have been previously infected with versions of the coronavirus that cause the common cold also have some immunity to the COVID-19 virus. If these reports stand up to further scrutiny, it would be very good news because they suggest that the pandemic could be over sooner and ultimately be less lethal than feared.

First, a few caveats: Both studies are based on small sample sizes and neither have yet been vetted by peer review.

In the Swedish study, researchers not only checked 200 participants for the presence of immunological proteins called antibodies produced in response to COVID-19 infections, but also for T-cells which are another virus-fighting component of the immune system. Detecting and evaluating T-cells is a bit trickier than measuring antibodies.

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In a second study, German researchers analyzed blood samples of 365 people, of which 180 had had COVID-19 and 185 had not. When they exposed the blood samples to the COVID-19 coronavirus, they found, as expected, that blood from those who had had the illness produced a substantial immune response. More significantly, they also found that 81 percent of the subjects who had never had COVID-19 also produced a T-cell immune reaction, reports The Science Times. If the German study's results prove out, that would suggest that earlier common cold coronavirus infections may provide about eight in 10 people some degree of immune protection from the COVID-19 virus.

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So, confirming that GOP cultists are literally the biggest pussies in American history.  There has never been a group of bigger gutless, incapable, paralyzed, whiny-ass cowards.
Grand Old Pussies.  All of them.  They should fuck off right to hell.

I wish we could come up with a better insult for weak sensitive pathetic people.

Pussies give pleasure. They’re fun. They bring forth life.

And, more importantly in this context, pussies are strong, tough, and hearty. They take a pounding like a champ. And that bringing forth life part is traumatic to a pussy but they bounce back and get back to business.

You know what genital part is actually weak and sensitive and can’t even withstand minor contact?

Testicles.

We need to start calling these weak sensitive pathetic people testicles or ballsacks.

Bill Mitchell is a ballsack.
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I wish we could come up with a better insult for weak sensitive pathetic people.

Pussies give pleasure. They’re fun. They bring forth life.

And, more importantly in this context, pussies are strong, tough, and hearty. They take a pounding like a champ. And that bringing forth life part is traumatic to a pussy but they bounce back and get back to business.

You know what genital part is actually weak and sensitive and can’t even withstand minor contact?

Testicles.

We need to start calling these weak sensitive pathetic people testicles or ballsacks.

Bill Mitchell is a ballsack.

You need an adjective.  Tiny testicles or tiny ballsacks.

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I wish we could come up with a better insult for weak sensitive pathetic people.

Pussies give pleasure. They’re fun. They bring forth life.

And, more importantly in this context, pussies are strong, tough, and hearty. They take a pounding like a champ. And that bringing forth life part is traumatic to a pussy but they bounce back and get back to business.

You know what genital part is actually weak and sensitive and can’t even withstand minor contact?

Testicles.

We need to start calling these weak sensitive pathetic people testicles or ballsacks.

Bill Mitchell is a ballsack.

I just call em dick fucks since most don't know what they are doing. 

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I wish we could come up with a better insult for weak sensitive pathetic people.

Pussies give pleasure. They’re fun. They bring forth life.

And, more importantly in this context, pussies are strong, tough, and hearty. They take a pounding like a champ. And that bringing forth life part is traumatic to a pussy but they bounce back and get back to business.

You know what genital part is actually weak and sensitive and can’t even withstand minor contact?

Testicles.

We need to start calling these weak sensitive pathetic people testicles or ballsacks.

Bill Mitchell is a ballsack.

In general, women are more expressive, men are more emotional- Or - more accurately, there's a wider range of emotional life that's easier to express and act on for women and an added concentration of volatility due to the narrower range for men.

 

Should probably be spun off into a separate thread of Gender Politics, and admittedly is mostly hypothetical spit-balling that will possibly be viewed as "white knighting" by some, but to fast forward to the point-

It's to humanity's disadvantage to constrain half of its resources from leadership positions if you believe in giving subsequent generations the greatest likelihood for prosperity and this pandemic has highlighted that.

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This is very very bad.


https://www.al.com/news/2020/07/5-children-including-infant-hospitalized-in-huntsville-with-coronavirus.html


5 children, including infant, hospitalized in Huntsville with coronavirus

Five children, including a 4-month-old infant, are hospitalized in Huntsville after testing positive for the novel coronavirus. Also among those children is a 4-year-old cancer patient, Huntsville Hospital CEO David Spillers said Wednesday.

Spillers said he expected all of the children to make recoveries, but also noted that this is the first time the hospital has seen such young patients during the pandemic. The children are hospitalized at Huntsville Hospital for Women & Children.

“If you think this doesn’t affect young people, it actually affects young people,” Spillers said. “It’s the first time we’ve seen that during the pandemic.”

The announcement on the hospitalized children comes after Spillers said Monday that a 16-year-old COVID-19 was on a ventilator at Huntsville Hospital.

“I challenge people who resist wearing face coverings to think about this next time you resist wearing face coverings,” Spillers said. “Anybody could have COVID, anybody could give COVID to somebody else. You can be giving COVID to a child. If the thought of you accidentally giving COVID to someone, a child who is trying to deal with cancer, isn’t reason enough to put on a face covering, I don’t know what is.

“I think it’s time to think about others when you resist wearing face coverings.”

Madison County, like much of the state, is seeing a sharp rise in the number of COVID-19 cases. Spillers said there are 121 patients in the Huntsville Hospital Healthcare System across north Alabama, including 36 at the main hospital campus in downtown Huntsville.

Elsewhere in the system, there 19 patients at Decatur-Morgan Hospital, 19 in Marshall Medical South in Boaz, 14 in Marshall Medical North in Guntersville, 11 in Helen Keller Hospital in Sheffield and eight at Athens-Limestone Hospital.

Altogether, there have been 1,057 cases of COVID-19 in Madison County since March, but 304 of those cases were reported in the last seven days.

The infection of children, however, brings a new element to the raw number of cases in north Alabama.

“This is the first time we’ve seen that in our community,” said Spillers, noting that the children’s hospital in Huntsville helps cover the area between Nashville and Birmingham. “Those patients do well (elsewhere). They are in the hospital. We have to watch them. I’m very confident the outcomes will be good for those children.”

Spillers said that it’s not known where the children contracted the virus and he was not suggesting that their parents “did anything wrong.”

“I think it’s just a direct result of more COVID in the community and more people engaging around children and infecting them,” he said. “The children didn’t go out and get this. Someone brought it to them.”

Spillers then circled back to his ongoing push for masking.

“We have to take care of our children,” he said. “These children aren’t capable of making these decisions. The adults making the decisions to be around children without masks on, they’re putting those children at risk.”



https://www.al.com/news/2020/06/coronavirus-cases-soar-in-north-alabama-16-year-old-on-ventilator-in-huntsville.html

Coronavirus cases soar in north Alabama, 16-year-old on ventilator in Huntsville


A 16-year-old patient is on a ventilator at Huntsville Hospital due to the novel coronavirus as the pandemic begins to hammer north Alabama.

Hospitalizations in the Huntsville Hospital Healthcare System across north Alabama are soaring, CEO David Spillers said Monday, including 38 patients at the system’s main hospital in downtown Huntsville, a peak number in nearby Athens and a new surge in long-struggling Marshall County.

The revelation about the teen on a ventilator in Huntsville indicates COVID-19 is not restricted to attacking the older population even as the average age of a COVID hospital patient is in the mid-50s, Spillers said.

“Young people are not immune,” Spillers said. “This is the first teenager we’ve had in ICU, the youngest patient we’ve had on a ventilator. Young people are not immune. It’s rare but it happens.”

Throughout 2020, Huntsville had seen relatively few infections and deaths compared to other large Alabama cities. But that seems to be changing. Madison County has reported 680 new cases in June, meaning 68 percent of all cases in Madison County happened since June 1.

“We don’t have this pandemic under control,” Madison County Commission Chair Dale Strong said. “Not in Madison County, not throughout the state of Alabama nor throughout the United States.”

The recent surge is evident in the number of those requiring hospital care as well. Spillers said on June 1, there were 28 COVID inpatients across the Huntsville Hospital system. On Monday, that number had more than quadrupled to 115. In Madison County, there were 44 inpatients with six at Madison Hospital and two at Crestwood Hospital in addition to Huntsville Hospital’s 38.

Marshall County, which emerged as an early coronavirus hot spot in Alabama and has seen a resurgence of cases, has 30 patients at its two smaller hospitals – 21 in the Boaz hospital and nine in the Guntersville hospital.

Decatur-Morgan has seen a slight dip with 20 inpatients while Athens-Limestone is at its high mark, Spillers said, with nine inpatients. Helen Keller Hospital in Sheffield has 12.

Spillers said that those who are hospitalized typically have preexisting conditions that make fighting the virus more difficult.

Testing has increased in Madison County, Spillers said, but so has the rate of positive tests. About 2,000 tests were administered at Huntsville Hospital last week, Spillers said, with a positive rate of about 7 percent. That’s up from about 3 percent a few weeks ago, though still below the statewide positive test rate of 10 percent.

The increase in hospitalizations has led to discussion about a strain on resources but Spillers said his biggest worry at this point is not having enough beds for patients but rather enough healthcare workers to attend to those patients. After all, Spillers said, healthcare workers are in the community, too, and potentially exposed to the virus.

“The concern just continues to grow,” he said. “We will create beds. I worry less about finding a bed than running out of caregivers.”

He described the situation on bed space in north Alabama hospitals as “very manageable” but also warned of another surge in the aftermath of the upcoming July Fourth holiday weekend. Health officials have repeatedly pointed to the Memorial Day weekend in May that coincided with the state’s reopening as the origin for the statewide increase in cases.

“But because this virus is so infectious, it doesn’t take much for that to get out of hand,” Spillers said. “We can’t let our guard down coming into the Fourth of July. We’ve got to be very careful what do over the next few weeks make sure it doesn’t continue to go up.”

Spillers repeated his advocacy for wearing masks, saying he doesn’t understand why it has become a political issue over a healthcare issue.

“You have no idea when you’re out in the community if the person next to you has it or doesn’t have it and could be transmitting it,” he said. “It’s a good reason to wear a face covering and keep your distance because there are many more people out there with it.

“The second takeaway is there are a certain percentage of people who when they get COVID are going to end up in the hospital. And there is a percentage of that group that’s going to end up in the ICUs on vents. And that’s a really bad time if you’re going to spend time on a vent.”
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https://reason.com/2020/06/30/inmate-coronavirus-infections-skyrocket-in-california/

Inmate Coronavirus Infections Skyrocket in California

A third of prisoners at San Quentin have gotten COVID-19, most in just the last two weeks.

Nearly a third of the 3,500 inmates incarcerated in San Quentin State Prison in California have tested positive for the coronavirus as of Monday.

California is one of the states seeing new spikes in COVID-19 infections, with nearly 225,000 infections across the state and 6,000 deaths as of Monday. Total deaths in the state still rank well below New York, which has had more than 31,000 deaths, but California is seeing new highs in the daily number of new infections as well as number of new deaths.

Nowhere is the spike more obvious than at San Quentin State Prison, north of San Francisco in Marin County. The prison accounts for half of all new COVID-19 infections among the state's inmates. Up until May, San Quentin had managed to go without any reported infections at all. Now they have more than 1,000. A representative for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation told USA Today that the prison is setting up tents within the prison to serve as triage space for handling new infections.

In a press conference on Monday, Gov. Gavin Newsom said it's possible that the infections came to San Quentin via the transfer of prisoners from Chino, formally known as the California Institution for Men, located in San Bernardino County. According to NPR, the 122 prisoners who were transferred from Chino to San Quentin in late May were not tested before being moved. This is particularly foolish since prisoners were moved to San Quentin due to Chino's own coronavirus outbreak and related overcrowding. (Currently, Chino has more than 500 active COVID-19 infections and has had 16 deaths.)

Newsom says California has released 3,500 inmates and has identified another 3,500 who could potentially be let out in order to reduce the level of crowding and thus the chances of the coronavirus spreading. The state has identified 110 inmates at San Quentin that could potentially be released soon. According to daily population data from California's prison system, the state prison population is down more than 11,000 inmates from this same time last year.

Despite the new spike and California's high prison population, the state's prison system is still seeing fewer infections than in states like Texas and Ohio. Though The Marshall Project notes that 585 inmates in state and federal prisons have died of COVID-19 as of June 25, California has seen comparatively fewer prisoner deaths so far. Hopefully the prison system will learn from this disaster caused by poor planning in its prison transfers and will avoid creating new infection outbreaks. You can't blame this one on bars and beachgoers.

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10 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

Snowflakes 

 

Literally millions of us who work in the operating room around the world wear masks for several hours at a time without deoxygenating or getting hypercapnic.  People have been doing it for over a century at this point. If you can’t breathe through a mask how the fuck are you going to breathe with your lungs full of COVID-19?

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Literally millions of us who work in the operating room around the world wear masks for several hours at a time without deoxygenating or getting hypercapnic.  People have been doing it for over a century at this point. If you can’t breathe through a mask how the fuck are you going to breathe with your lungs full of COVID-19?

Mexican painters and spray insulators have been wearing masks in 120 degree houses for millenia.

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Literally millions of us who work in the operating room around the world wear masks for several hours at a time without deoxygenating or getting hypercapnic.  People have been doing it for over a century at this point. If you can’t breathe through a mask how the fuck are you going to breathe with your lungs full of COVID-19?

Man, I have been having this argument with multiple people over the last week.  It's stunning.  Simple facts elude them. 

The volume of air entrained by a mask is substantially  less than the average human's single breath, which is on the order of 500 mL (30 cubic inches).  A mask might entrain 6 cubic inches, and probably less.  That means 80% of breathed air is coming from outside the mask, and this whole "re-breathing CO2" argument is utter bullshit.

I could go on.  I'm tired.

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9 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Dismal but informative, as usual...

 

50%? 

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It's about 99.999999999999999999999999% that nothing will be done and it'll be an uncontrolled burn. The remaining fraction of a percentage point is reserved for civilization destroying asteroid, aliens, or nuclear holocaust. 

It's over. All that's left to do is skewer the shit out of trump and every republican that's willingly sacrificing America for nothing. 

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