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I got my first dose yesterday! It was the Moderna one.

My arm is sore as shit but otherwise no other issues.

Also, my first appointment had to be rescheduled because I’m allergic to penicillin. They required me to have a note from my doctor saying I was okay to receive the vaccine. So if you have any type of medication allergy, go ahead and get a note from your doc just in case.

My hospital may be being over cautious but better to have it and not need it than the other way around.

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  On 1/15/2021 at 7:04 PM, Bama Chick said:

I got my first dose yesterday! It was the Moderna one.

My arm is sore as shit but otherwise no other issues.

Also, my first appointment had to be rescheduled because I’m allergic to penicillin. They required me to have a note from my doctor saying I was okay to receive the vaccine. So if you have any type of medication allergy, go ahead and get a note from your doc just in case.

My hospital may be being over cautious but better to have it and not need it than the other way around.

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Thanks. My wife is allergic to amoxicillin so that’s good to know.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-leaders-waited-months-to-approve-distribution-plans-11610737935?mod=djemalertNEWS

 

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Operation Warp Speed leaders waited more than two months to approve a plan to distribute and administer Covid-19 vaccines proposed by U.S. health officials, administration officials said, leaving states with little time to implement a mass-vaccination campaign amid a coronavirus surge.

State and local officials had been clamoring for months for help preparing for the largest vaccination program in U.S. history when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published a playbook in September to guide them.

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The CDC had wanted to start helping states plan in June how to get people vaccinated. But officials at Operation Warp Speed rebuffed the agency’s plan for distributing vaccines. They adopted a similar plan in August only after exploring other options—and then held the release of the CDC’s playbook for states for two weeks for additional clearance and to put it out with another document, the officials said.

Operation Warp Speed was supposed to be a high-water mark of the Trump administration’s coronavirus response, but it stumbled at the finish line because of problems in federal planning and foresight. Now, the public-private partnership is scrambling to speed up vaccinations, adjusting eligibility guidelines while states race to increase their abilities to administer doses on a large scale.

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“They didn’t plan for the last inch of the last mile, the part that matters most—how you’re going to actually vaccinate that many people quickly,” said Dr. Bruce Gellin, a former Health and Human Services vaccine official and president of global immunization at the Sabin Vaccine Institute.

The federal government has distributed more than 30 million doses, about a third of which have been administered, according to the CDC. President-elect Joe Biden said Thursday he would urge Congress to provide $160 billion in funding to launch a national vaccination program, among other Covid-related items, and set up community vaccination sites nationwide.

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Here 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/biden-lays-out-1-9-trillion-covid-19-relief-package-n1254334

An extra $1 trillion would be allotted to help struggling Americans with the third round of stimulus checks — giving them $1,400 direct payments, as well as an extra $400 a week for unemployed and other affected workers. Biden is also expected to ask Congress to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour to help front-line workers battling the pandemic.

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Give me my pick of 9 other surly posters and I virtually guarantee you we could come up with a better distribution program for the state of texas within a 60 day window than the abbott team has.  

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  On 1/16/2021 at 2:05 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

There's also this medicine, delivered via an injection that is being distributed....um what's it called?

 

 

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I am not arguing whatever stupid thing that guy is, but vax rates among general pop aren’t sufficient as sole explanation to explain any reopenings. 

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  On 1/16/2021 at 2:09 PM, Anastasis said:

I am not arguing whatever stupid thing that guy is, but vax rates among general pop aren’t sufficient as sole explanation to explain any reopenings. 

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No, they aren't especially as it's less than what? 1-2% now?, but I've been scrolling around this morning and the cult is searching among the flotsam and jetsam for a floatation device and they've landed upon this one for COVID. It's to the point that I'm tossing a bad argument after a bad argument, but at this point Americans are all talking past each other anyway. NY lost their state supreme court case regarding restaurants so Cuomo is allowing orange zones to open at 50% capacity if I understood it right. He's also opened up vaccines to anyone over 65 but they're running out of supply. I'm hoping the production can get them rolling out again. So instead of the narrative being 'what about this study is valid/not valid, it's the politics stepping in again and ruining public health.

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Well... Folks we are fucked.

Almost all planning, and all assumptions with administration of the vaccine has ALL been based on the fact the federal government for holding back doses to insure the necessary second booster.  THAT WAS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE.

So as fucked up as things were for my diatribe post... are worse.  There simply are nowhere near as many doses out there, and the Trump administration specifically lied about it. Azar is not resigning over the Capitol Insurrection, he is resigning to not have to face the music of lying to the American public about Operation Warp Speed, and added another layer of difficulty and complexity to the most difficult undertaking our country has every attempted.

God I wish I felt as good about things as I did at the beginning of the week.  Too bad the Trump administration did not give a single shit about the American people and only focused on the well being of a single individual.

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What I am reading says that they stopped holding back the second dose reserves at end of the year, two weeks ago. If that is true they absolutely did the right thing. Many of us were posting about in at the time. Of course that should have been communicated by the feds at the time in full transparency. 

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Actually over the weekend for moderna reserves. 
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/15/trump-vaccine-reserve-used-up/

Operation Warp Speed, which is overseeing vaccine distribution, stopped stockpiling second doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine at the end of last year, those officials were told. Shipping of the last reserve doses of Moderna’s supply, meanwhile, began over the weekend.

The shift, in both cases, had to do with increased confidence in the supply chain, so Operation Warp Speed leaders felt they could reliably anticipate the availability of doses for booster shots — required three weeks later in the case of the Pfizer-BioNTech product and four weeks later under Moderna’s protocol.

 

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Did they ever find out from the trials the importance of having a second dose exactly one month after the first one? What if it's 2 months? 3? Could even the people getting a shot now be screwed because they can't get the 2nd one for weeks after the one month deadline or do we know if it doesn't matter much?

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  On 1/16/2021 at 5:46 PM, 4th&Five said:

 

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What purpose does this serve at all?  Maybe he talks more of his constituents into risky situations to contract Covid?   What is he angling for?  Or he's just being his normal dumbass self, I suppose, just hearing himself talk.  Saying dumb shit because he knows it will get airtime.

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Has anybody seen anything in Biden's plan about helping those who are long hauler Covid survivors rehabilitating physically and financially?  I am speaking of people who survived, but are severely impaired from Covid ravaging their lungs in particular.

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German 90 YO grandmother update: her appointment got cancelled due to shortage of vaccine. 
 

Lauren Hashian Wtf GIF by swerk
 

I feel fairly confident it’s because Pfizer is diverting more vaccine to the US because our dumb asses won’t wear masks and our hospitals are at the breaking point. Feels bad man. 

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Speaking of Germany, what could possibly go wrong once the Germans start concentration camps for COVIDs...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13773701/germany-covid-rule-breakers-refugee-camps-mutant-virus/

GERMANY'S worst Covid rule breakers will be held in detention centres under new proposals being drawn up by a number of state governments.

The move forms part of the country's efforts to stop the spread of the more contagious mutant strain of the virus detected in the UK last month.

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  On 1/18/2021 at 5:16 PM, Anastasis said:

Speaking of Germany, what could possibly go wrong once the Germans start concentration camps for COVIDs...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13773701/germany-covid-rule-breakers-refugee-camps-mutant-virus/

GERMANY'S worst Covid rule breakers will be held in detention centres under new proposals being drawn up by a number of state governments.

The move forms part of the country's efforts to stop the spread of the more contagious mutant strain of the virus detected in the UK last month.

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We should copy this. 

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  On 1/16/2021 at 6:00 PM, pyrohornIII said:

Has anybody seen anything in Biden's plan about helping those who are long hauler Covid survivors rehabilitating physically and financially?  I am speaking of people who survived, but are severely impaired from Covid ravaging their lungs in particular.

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Not specifically, no. The general plan is pretty long and you may have read through it: https://joebiden.com/covid-plan/

but I did not see that type of care covered. However, some areas of that plan are vague, perhaps intentionally, because the future needs are still being discovered?

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The long-term effects of COVID on our healthcare system I suspect are going to be immense.  Can't recall if this had been mentioned above, but one doctor had mentioned that 3/4 of asymptomatic folks have bad chest x-rays.  I'm sure glad we were shooting for herd immunity the old-fashioned way of just trying to spread the virus as fact as we could.

 

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2021/01/14/asymptomatic-covid-lung-damage/

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Of the thousands of COVID patients she’s treated, every one with COVID symptoms has an abnormal chest x-ray. Even three out of four who were asymptomatic had a bad chest x-ray.

Bankhead-Kendall says on a COVID lung, “you’ll either see a lot of that white, dense scarring or you’ll see it throughout the entire lung. Even if you’re not feeling problems now, the fact that that’s on your chest x-ray, it sure is indicative of you possibly having problems later on.

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It’s not yet clear the impact this lung damage will have on COVID patients long term or whether the injury will even heal. What is clear is that mask-wearing and a vaccine are a better alternative than even a mild case of COVID.

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  On 1/18/2021 at 5:16 PM, Anastasis said:

Speaking of Germany, what could possibly go wrong once the Germans start concentration camps for COVIDs...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13773701/germany-covid-rule-breakers-refugee-camps-mutant-virus/

GERMANY'S worst Covid rule breakers will be held in detention centres under new proposals being drawn up by a number of state governments.

The move forms part of the country's efforts to stop the spread of the more contagious mutant strain of the virus detected in the UK last month.

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I’m all for this system, but for stupid people 

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  On 1/18/2021 at 9:03 PM, Brisketexan said:

We have it.  Covers a very large geographic area:

SEC-Circle-White-Letters-on-White-Backgr

 

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I stopped trolling texags a good number of years ago, but popped back over there following a link from this board. They literally have threads where they are talking about mixing ivermectin horse paste with apple sauce to treat/prevent covid. There are posts literally debating the pros/con of horse paste vs. cattle formulations. I can't even. 

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  On 1/18/2021 at 10:09 PM, Anastasis said:

I stopped trolling texags a good number of years ago, but popped back over there following a link from this board. They literally have threads where they are talking about mixing ivermectin horse paste with apple sauce to treat/prevent covid. There are posts literally debating the pros/con of horse paste vs. cattle formulations. I can't even. 

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Gonna need a link to that one

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  On 1/18/2021 at 10:46 PM, BradInATX said:

Gonna need a link to that one

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https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3174428

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8:24p, 1/16/21

I've got the horse paste 1.87% and am thinking about adding this to my Zinc, Quercetin ,Vit D , etc regimen.

Was looking for dosage and frequency. The paste has markings on the plunger but the dosage by weight oddly is not linear. The amount recommended for 250# is significantly greater than 1/2 of the 500# dose

Of course I could go buy the 1% cattle if that is better / easier I guess because the paste is designed to be taken orally I would prefer to go with it
Found it on the senate thread page 2

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AggieP18

4:33p, 1/17/21

AG

As some anecdotal evidence for ivermectin, I know of several older ranches who got covid, took ivermectin and were back to normal within a day or two.

 

CyAg86

7:45p, 1/7/21

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I know a Dr who has her entire take the paste mixed with applesauce as a preventative measure.

 

 

It's like a bizarro triplehorn post, but instead of psychiatrists, it's veterinarians. 

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  On 1/18/2021 at 11:24 PM, Anastasis said:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3174428

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8:24p, 1/16/21

I've got the horse paste 1.87% and am thinking about adding this to my Zinc, Quercetin ,Vit D , etc regimen.

Was looking for dosage and frequency. The paste has markings on the plunger but the dosage by weight oddly is not linear. The amount recommended for 250# is significantly greater than 1/2 of the 500# dose

Of course I could go buy the 1% cattle if that is better / easier I guess because the paste is designed to be taken orally I would prefer to go with it
Found it on the senate thread page 2

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Just wow.  

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  On 1/18/2021 at 11:24 PM, Anastasis said:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3174428

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8:24p, 1/16/21

I've got the horse paste 1.87% and am thinking about adding this to my Zinc, Quercetin ,Vit D , etc regimen.

Was looking for dosage and frequency. The paste has markings on the plunger but the dosage by weight oddly is not linear. The amount recommended for 250# is significantly greater than 1/2 of the 500# dose

Of course I could go buy the 1% cattle if that is better / easier I guess because the paste is designed to be taken orally I would prefer to go with it
Found it on the senate thread page 2

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full. fucking. aggy.

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  On 1/18/2021 at 11:26 PM, Anastasis said:

AggieP18

4:33p, 1/17/21

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As some anecdotal evidence for ivermectin, I know of several older ranches who got covid, took ivermectin and were back to normal within a day or two.

 

CyAg86

7:45p, 1/7/21

AG

I know a Dr who has her entire take the paste mixed with applesauce as a preventative measure.

 

 

It's like a bizarro triplehorn post, but instead of psychiatrists, it's veterinarians. 

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I know it's shocking but this isn't the first time someone has taken vet meds for other reasons than getting high.

 

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  On 1/19/2021 at 3:43 AM, cactusflinthead said:

I know it's shocking but this isn't the first time someone has taken vet meds for other reasons than getting high.

 

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Getting high on horse tranqulizers is more evidence based than mixing syringes of horse ivermectin with apple sauce. 

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  On 1/19/2021 at 3:45 AM, Anastasis said:

Getting high on horse tranqulizers is more evidence based than mixing syringes of horse ivermectin with apple sauce. 

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I'll grant you that. I've heard the phenylbarbital for the dog seizures was ok. The fish streptomycin was a lot cheaper than yours. 

I know it's aggy. I work with these people. I am not condoning it. 

I am saying this is not new.

 

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Official COVID death count is 395,000 today. That's more than populations of Cleveland OH, Wichita KS, Bakersfield CA, or.....New Orleans. FFS, COVID has wiped out the equivalent of New Orleans. People on here snickered that it was fine to lose the equivalent of Lubbock, or St Louis, or Newark. Whatever. But fucking NOLA?

It also marks a macabre threshold, since we're now eradicating the top 50 largest cities in the US.  8 NFL cities, with Arlington TX and Tampa Bay FL due to be eclipsed tomorrow. 

I give these updates a little glibly, but it is horrifying and tragic that we've lost so many people they could fill some of our country's biggest and most vibrant cities. We've all visited or lived in some of these cities. Orlando. Honolulu. Madison. Pittsburgh. Anaheim. Boise. Salt Lake City. So many more. Take a moment to consider everyone in whatever city that is just...gone. It's pretty sobering. 

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  On 1/19/2021 at 6:31 PM, Ted Lange said:

 

 

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If the vaccine was 100% effective, I'd be fine with this - it would just be nature "fixing the glitch" ...  Unfortunately, if vaccine effectiveness drops because of continuing mutations (which may exacerbated because of the extent of transmission), good people will end up suffering as well.  Not as cool.  I guess nature is doing the best it can.



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