CR: COVID-19 --Political Talk

[Bama Chick 28596]

Offer him a hemorrhoid cushion to sit on.

lol it was actually Steve Marshall not John Merrill.

I get those two pasty assholes confused.

I recorded his speech and hoooooo boy - dog whistle city.

[RDCanecutter 26924]

8 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I recorded his speech and hoooooo boy - dog whistle city.

Ah yes, the dog whistle, the meaningful pause, the stage whisper, and the arched eyebrow. The old-school Alabama conversational toolkit.

[washparkhorn 9974]

CDC tells vaccinated to mask back up when indoors. 

I am ready for vaccine passports. 

[atomheartbevo 90677]

7 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

We are about to find our how many anti-vaxxers are employed at the VA

 

Interesting timing after this little report came out:

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/23/texas-coronavirus-veterans-homes-george-p-bush/

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Seven of the state’s nine veterans homes had a fatality rate of 25% or more, far higher than the statewide average of 11% for nursing homes. 

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Nursing homes, which care for people who are already medically vulnerable, were ravaged by the pandemic. But Texas’ state-run veterans homes were often the deadliest places to be.

The nine state homes had more than double the death rate among COVID-19-infected residents compared with other nursing homes in the state, according to a Texas Tribune-Houston Chronicle analysis of state data from the pandemic’s start until June 2021.

Those aren't VA facilities, but it's not a good look.

[Yuk 1625]

jesus fuck it's so goddamned tedious to have these mouth-breathing fucks in this country.

we're going to be in COVID perpetuity because these goddamned loonies...... soooooo sick of this shit.

[atomheartbevo 90677]

4 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

Won’t matter in TX and other red states where governors like Hot Wheels has made it illegal for districts to require them. 

It'll be a battle with the Karens and parents that he's not going to like.  There's millions of kids still not vaccinated, and won't be until early next year.

Yeah, yeah, it's not that bad among kids, but this Delta variant is spreading like crazy, far more than what we saw last year, and it's knocking plenty of unvaccinated people down.

[Chooky 13341]

I imagine there are very few anti-mask welders.

[RDCanecutter 26924]

7 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

We are about to find our how many anti-vaxxers are employed at the VA

Gonna be chaos in the restaurant industry as the remaining waiters finish those last few nursing courses, then go fill those vacancies at the VA.

[safe sex 12043]

4 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Where do you get the N95 (?) filters for these?

Edit:  Actually, based off a reddit recommendation I ordered some of these.

They give you like ten of them when you buy the mask, and I think you can buy more from them. Each one is rated to last around 50ish hours, I think? The masks you linked to are fine, I'm sure, but decidedly not cute.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2692]

7 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Pretty funny (is that the right word?) to see these statistics while my company is ordering everyone back to the office on Monday.

Ugh.  We're ordered back on Aug. 17 -- when numbers should be even higher---and it's also the first day of school in AISD. Awesome leadership.

[safe sex 12043]

5 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Where do you get the N95 (?) filters for these?

Edit:  Actually, based off a reddit recommendation I ordered some of these.

Oh wait, I looked a little closer at the ones you linked. I haven't looked up recent science on this, but I know masks with air vents are generally considered undesirable, as they offer only one way protection compared to ventless masks. But again, I haven't seen any up to date science on the issue.

I do have a theory though. I've noticed that a majority percentage of the people who wear masks with valves are men, and I think this is because mask-hesitant/ambivalent men can justify wearing them because they look more "tactical" than the traditional masks.

Edited July 27, 2021 by trauma babe
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[hookem2010 2701]

Wife works in anesthesia and they are going up to p100's now.

[jimmyjazz 47330]

3 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Ah yes, the dog whistle, the meaningful pause, the stage whisper, and the arched eyebrow. The old-school Alabama conversational toolkit.

What do you do for a living?  Please tell me you're an essayist for something like The Atlantic.

[MC Fresh Breath 4075]

18 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

Oh wait, I looked a little closer at the ones you linked. I haven't looked up recent science on this, but I know masks with air vents are generally considered undesirable, as they offer only one way protection compared to ventless masks. But again, I haven't seen any up to date science on the issue.

I do have a theory though. I've noticed that a majority percentage of the people who wear masks with valves are men, and I think this is because mask-hesitant/ambivalent men can justify wearing them because they look more "tactical" than the traditional masks.

uh, oh crap. 

[Post Oak 20588]

4 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

OMG I HAVE BEEN HIJACKED INTO A BACK THE BLUE EVENT

HELPPPPPP MEEEEEEEEEE

1million Surly Bucks if you yell Black Lives Matter.

Edited July 27, 2021 by Post Oak

[RDCanecutter 26924]

51 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What do you do for a living?  Please tell me you're an essayist for something like The Atlantic.

I draw cartoons. Not political cartoons, because those are boring. I also wait for my wife to get her paycheck every month.

Never been in the Atlantic, but I used to have multiple rejection letters from them. The letters are really nice, like, almost printmaking quality.

[HenryJames 67466]

 

[jimmyjazz 47330]

NSIAP, NSIdoesn'tlink I know nothing about tiktok (NSFW language):

 

Edited July 28, 2021 by jimmyjazz

[Biff Tannen 46203]

3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

That’s also not how masks work anyway. 

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2692]

High-quality filtration type masks do work that way.  We still having these types of convos now?  Not trying to be surly, Biff

[Biff Tannen 46203]

13 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

High-quality filtration type masks do work that way.  We still having these types of convos now?  Not trying to be surly, Biff

Fair

[F250 29205]

I didn't know that this was still a thing.

 

[Biff Tannen 46203]

On 7/26/2021 at 8:38 PM, Biff Tannen said:

Getting a shot of Pfizer at Walgreens on 45th tomorrow on top of my J&J from March.  On recs of an internal medicine doc and an infectious disease doc.  Maybe I'll get super powers.

To follow up on this, today my arm is sore, but haven't felt sick at all yet.  Almost 24 hours after.  That's a nice surprise.  I was bracing for it to knock me down for a day like the J&J did.

[HenryJames 67466]

 

[HenryJames 67466]

 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6598]

3 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

See, he is really a good guy!  

Actually, McConnell could solve world hunger and I would still think he is a piece of shit.

[Yuk 1625]

9 hours ago, F250 said:

I didn't know that this was still a thing.

 

They dig the fuck in. In this moment of existential crisis, the truly important fight is the Culture War.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13742]

20 hours ago, YChang said:

To clarify when your saw the question, “Has the patient received a dose of COVID-19 vaccination yet?” 

You picked no? I mean technically it’s true for me (J&J for me as well)… because their options is No or Yes (Moderna or Pfizer). 

I recently received a 3rd pfizer shot at CVS. They specifically asked on their online form whether I was scheduling my 1st or 2nd. I lied and said it was my first. I also checked a box that I didn't want the vaccine reported to the state. I don't fully understand what that means.

Hopefully I wasn't reported to the state as a new vaccination. One person doesn't change the percentages but enough could.

Also I assume that if my previous 2 shots had been at CVS, they would have caught me.

[Anastasis 23717]

13 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I recently received a 3rd pfizer shot at CVS. They specifically asked on their online form whether I was scheduling my 1st or 2nd. I lied and said it was my first. I also checked a box that I didn't want the vaccine reported to the state. I don't fully understand what that means.

Hopefully I wasn't reported to the state as a new vaccination. One person doesn't change the percentages but enough could.

Also I assume that if my previous 2 shots had been at CVS, they would have caught me.

Unfortunately the CDC is going to be slow to issue formal guidance on what JNJ people should do, and what role a 3rd dose booster might be able to play. By the time that they get around to addressing the topic, we will be on hopefully a steep ride down from delta peak. The CDC/FDA machinery just doesn't move at the speed necessary during an emerging pandemic, both for better and for worse. 

Relatedly,

 

[Biff Tannen 46203]

21 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I recently received a 3rd pfizer shot at CVS. They specifically asked on their online form whether I was scheduling my 1st or 2nd. I lied and said it was my first. I also checked a box that I didn't want the vaccine reported to the state. I don't fully understand what that means.

Hopefully I wasn't reported to the state as a new vaccination. One person doesn't change the percentages but enough could.

Also I assume that if my previous 2 shots had been at CVS, they would have caught me.

The data is so fucked.  I got J&J in Grimes county and a single shot of Pfizer in Travis and am skipping the 2nd Pfizer shot, so I'm sure they will view that as an incomplete vaccination.

[wildcat09 29600]

10 hours ago, F250 said:

I didn't know that this was still a thing.

 

It definitely is. The IDW is in a little civil war right now because Bret Weinstein is making the rest of them look bad by pushing ivermectin over the vaccine based on some really shitty studies.

[jimmyjazz 47330]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Unfortunately the CDC is going to be slow to issue formal guidance on what JNJ people should do, and what role a 3rd dose booster might be able to play. By the time that they get around to addressing the topic, we will be on hopefully a steep ride down from delta peak.

Just eyeballing the graphs, it appears we are lagging the UK by about 5 weeks or so.  Delta peaked there around July 20.  So, maybe we'll peak ~ late August?  That's a lot of disease.

I realize my prediction method is perhaps a tad unscientific . . .

[Bookman 4769]

I’m glad people are saying this. The only reason Covid is still a thing in this country is because we simply have too many stupid fucking morons who live here.

[Anastasis 23717]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Just eyeballing the graphs, it appears we are lagging the UK by about 5 weeks or so.  Delta peaked there around July 20.  So, maybe we'll peak ~ late August?  That's a lot of disease.

I realize my prediction method is perhaps a tad unscientific . . .

Feels right to me, with many regions spanning into September. My concern is what happens when we go back to school and what impact that has. 

[DDD Dad 14663]

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

My concern is what happens when we go back to school and what impact that has. 

Edited July 28, 2021 by DDD Dad

[Nice Guy Eddie 13742]

The UK models are interesting and perhaps predictive but they're also have big differences with us. The UK is 1/3 the area of Texas but more than double the population. The UK is also more vaccinated than Texas.

From the graphs I've seen, Texas has barely entered into a Delta wave. I suggest that we watch Florida. They're slightly ahead of us in this wave and somewhat similar to Texas with a mix of cities and rural areas. One downside of looking to Florida is that they're obfuscating their reported data. I assume for political reasons as DeSantis holds himself up as the governor that beat covid.

 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19331]

So I got my second shot on May 22. At Javits. How does one go about getting a third shot.

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

I realize my prediction method is perhaps a tad unscientific . . .

Don’t sweat it. We’re in America, baby.

[Biff Tannen 46203]

31 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Feels right to me, with many regions spanning into September. My concern is what happens when we go back to school and what impact that has. 

Sweet.  Right now my company is forcing us back into the office the first week of September.  What could go wrong?

[Aqua Buddha 14809]

21 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So I got my second shot on May 22. At Javits. How does one go about getting a third shot.

It’s an overnight update into the microchip.  Duh.

[NWBuck 8630]

1 hour ago, Bookman said:

I’m glad people are saying this. The only reason Covid is still a thing in this country is because we simply have too many stupid fucking morons who live here.

Not just that... we're too stupid to let the really stupid people die.

[Sbbruin 22147]

The bullshit misinformation on the internet absolutely boggles the mind.

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Coronavirus Spreading Among the Vaccinated in Highly Vaccinated Countries (uh, no, it's not dipshit)

Infections in Vaccinated People in U.K. are Outpacing Infections in the Unvaccinated.

And this is the article cited- from some fucking cite called "The Vaccine Reaction".  For fucks sake.

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2021/07/coronavirus-spreading-among-the-vaccinated-in-highly-vaccinated-countries/?fbclid=IwAR3LW8JYAsjOG7co0S6Qa9XtBuqk4***hXPCnAWmeEfcb6JsS7NlktgXUSk

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Feels right to me, with many regions spanning into September. My concern is what happens when we go back to school and what impact that has. 

My scientific analysis is that when kids go back to school in September were fucked. Hope I’m wrong. 

[Okie State 3889]

Reading other boards and the anti-vaxx crowd is loud and proud spreading all kinds of anecdotal evidence and false information. Zero headway will be made with these people.

[BrickHorn 18450]

3 hours ago, Bookman said:

I’m glad people are saying this. The only reason Covid is still a thing in this country is because we simply have too many stupid fucking morons who live here.

The unfunny assholes at The Babylon Bee are saying the opposite. “Masks and vaccines didn’t stop Covid the first time” says humorless satire publication aimed at precisely the same dipshits who kept Covid spreading by not wearing masks and not getting vaccinated. 

 

[BrickHorn 18450]

2 hours ago, NWBuck said:

Not just that... we're too stupid to let the really stupid people die.

Unfortunately, Covid’s not good enough at killing people. Mostly it just racks up medical expenses that the rest of us cover through higher premiums and prices. 

[HenryJames 67466]

 

[Pods 7638]

3 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So I got my second shot on May 22. At Javits. How does one go about getting a third shot.

 

Both Israel and Gibraltar vaccinated early and the Delta data from there seems to suggest the breakthroughs are mostly occurring in people between 4-6+ months after vaccination. Mostly.

There's a bunch of caveats, this is predominantly older people and immunocompromised folks etc, so if anything, it should skew as losing effectiveness slightly earlier than we'll see in a normal population. 

The Israeli data looks bad, the UK data looks good. One big difference between them was time, Israel vaccinated earlier and there are many more people at the 4-6+ month mark than in the UK. 

Personally, I'd feel reasonably comfortable that I still had good protection from Delta via the vaccine two months after dose 2, especially if it was Moderna. I'd still mask up to keep viral load exposures low though. Valved N95s are back in stock and super comfortable with a paper one over it. 

[Dnaguy 12723]

2 minutes ago, Pods said:

 

Both Israel and Gibraltar vaccinated early and the Delta data from there seems to suggest the breakthroughs are mostly occurring in people between 4-6+ months after vaccination. Mostly.

There's a bunch of caveats, this is predominantly older people and immunocompromised folks etc, so if anything, it should skew as losing effectiveness slightly earlier than we'll see in a normal population. 

The Israeli data looks bad, the UK data looks good. One big difference between them was time, Israel vaccinated earlier and there are many more people at the 4-6+ month mark than in the UK. 

Personally, I'd feel reasonably comfortable that I still had good protection from Delta via the vaccine two months after dose 2, especially if it was Moderna. I'd still mask up to keep viral load exposures low though. Valved N95s are back in stock and super comfortable with a paper one over it. 

 

This sorta tracks w/ my experience.

Received 2nd does moderna on 3/30.

Got COVID 3.5 months later.

But also not old or immunocompromised.

[4th&Five 42026]

4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

The data is so fucked.  I got J&J in Grimes county and a single shot of Pfizer in Travis and am skipping the 2nd Pfizer shot, so I'm sure they will view that as an incomplete vaccination.

Yeah, wife and I got our second shots at different places than our first so I know we’re counted as only getting the first shot.