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“Republican leaders are to blame for Apley’s death,” said one Houston man’s letter to the editor in the Galveston County Daily News, as the highly transmissible delta variant fueled a new surge of coronavirus cases straining hospitals.
But for others who knew Apley, only one story mattered: His family was suffering, and now, with cruel comments and laughing emoji, strangers from out-of-state were piling on. In Apley’s political sphere, some said the tragedy was only entrenching people’s divisions over the vaccines and a resurging virus — much less sending people soul-searching about their beliefs or their party’s messaging.
“Everyone already has an opinion, and it didn’t change because of Scott,” said Marco Roberts, the Houston-based chairman of the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas. In a Facebook post, he criticized those “seeking to make political points of [Apley’s] death — as if his unique and anecdotal tragedy had anything to do with public policy that affects millions.”
Karen Stoehr, who said she is Apley’s sibling by adoption, also hated the use of Apley’s death to make a public health point, even as she believes so strongly in the coronavirus vaccines that she won’t let people see her 88-year-old dad without them. A full-time caretaker for her ailing father in small-town Kansas, Stoehr said she did not read all the news about her brother, stays away from politics and generally has “other things going on in my life.”
She said she also does not know if Apley’s death has swayed their sister, a teacher who she said has previously declined to get vaccinated and who did not return a call from The Post.
“They’ve been praying for a baby,” Stoehr said of her brother and his wife, her voice starting to quiver. “They just got one. And then he’s gone!”
Apley’s wife, Melissa, declined to be interviewed or discuss her husband’s decision-making but did not dispute people’s belief that he was unvaccinated. She told The Post in text messages that her husband was only “against the government forcing people to get vaccinated.”
She said he supported her choice to get the shot before he fell sick, something Apley’s friends remembered her telling them and sharing on social media.
Melissa Apley said she also got the virus, as Americans learn to expect some level of “breakthrough” infections. But she recovered. She said she has reunited with her months-old son, who tested negative and does not show symptoms.
She said she forgives those who celebrated her husband’s death.
“CONGRATULATIONS,” read one shiny card sent to the city of Dickinson after Apley’s death that echoed the worst of the online comments. “Guess the grim reaper got the last laugh,” the card went on inside, adding a smiley face and welcoming “one more dead Republican.”
Dickinson Mayor Sean Skipworth said the vitriol was “morally wrong” and probably not productive.
“‘Hey, idiots, go get vaccinated,'" he said, as some use the phrase“compassion fatigue” to talk about people who refuse the vaccines. “I mean, I don’t know what that is meant to accomplish.” Many in Apley’s party, under fire for their approach to covid-19, felt similarly.
“No one likes to be shouted into a different opinion,” echoed Roberts of the Log Cabin Republicans. “And so when people start being shouted at and being accused and charged and, you know, besieged, the natural inclination is to … circle the wagons.”
Months of data show that those who get immunized are significantly less likely to get sick, and even less likely to go to the hospital or die from covid-19.
Vaccines show declining effectiveness against infection overall but strong protection against hospitalization
But Roberts focused on uncertainty as he posted about Apley’s death.
“The truth is, we don’t know that had Scott made different choices the outcome would have been any different for him,” he told the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas’ followers on social media, pointing later to breakthrough infections and underlying factors like Apley’s weight.
Apley’s friend Hank Dugie said he believes the most effective messaging on vaccines is “positive, upbeat, motivational” — encouraging but not judgmental. “We don’t press people on getting vaccinated,” said Dugie, who serves as mayor pro tem for League City, Tex., right next to Apley’s town.
The coronavirus situation in Texas has only escalated since Apley’s death. Doctors are pleading for help as the number of hospitalized covid-19 patients statewide approaches levels not seen since the winter. Dugie is chair of his county’s covid-19 business task force and knows that the vast majority of people who fall seriously ill are unvaccinated.
Yet with Apley, he said, he feels no responsibility to “talk about how he died or why he died.” He said he believes in sharing statistics, not emotional stories. “If anything,” Dugie said, in the wake of Apley’s death, “people have retreated into their own confirmation biases.”
Dugie and others in Apley’s political circles also rejected the idea that Republican leaders are to blame.
“It’s not words that are killing people,” said Dan Davis, a city councilman in Manvel, Tex.
“Both parties have had very unfortunate messaging at times,” said Jared Robinson, a Republican state district court judge.
Asked about the Galveston County GOP’s Facebook post claiming the vaccine killed someone, Dugie noted the group’s chairman is a doctor and said, “I don’t think it represents the party at all.”
The county GOP chairman, Patrick McGinnis, said in an email that Republican leaders are anti-mandate, not anti-vaccine or anti-public health. He pointed to a Kaiser Family Foundation polling that shows vaccination rates varying by age, race and education, not just party. Among more than a dozen demographic groups broken out, however, Republicans had the lowest levels of immunization.
McGinnis said that he is vaccinated and encourages others to get their shots whenever they ask. He also said the Facebook post about the alleged vaccine death does not represent the party’s “official position” and agreed there was no clear evidence for it.
But the physician said he does not want to intervene in his group’s postings.
“Better to let people share their opinions and post articles, rather than try to be the Facebook policeman,” he said.
Jeff Larson, an official with the Harris County Republican Party, said he believes that some leaders of local GOP groups are reflecting their base’s views on vaccines or “don’t want to tackle the issue directly for fear — for fear of alienating a large segment of the party.”
“Certainly if you are a person in the United States today and you want to believe a conspiracy theory about vaccines … you’ll probably land in our party,” he said.
The last time Larson saw Apley alive, he said, was at the funeral of Jeff LeBlanc, another man active in Texas Republican politics who died of covid-19. Before that, the coronavirus took Texan and Republican Liberty Caucus leader Dave Nalle.
Just a few days after Apley’s death, 61-year-old Larson got his first shot — the timing was a coincidence, Larson said, it just took him awhile to make it in.
Vaccination rates in the United States have ticked up in recent weeks, public health officials say, as fears spike with the delta variant. Galveston County is no exception, according to the local health district. State datahas it lagging a few percentage points behind the nation as a whole, with full vaccination for about 57 percent of the population 12 and over.
Officials urged holdouts to reconsider at last week’s Dickinson City Council meeting, where the masked-up mayor read Apley’s name at roll call and then waited six long seconds before moving on.
“He did his homework, he never came to a council meeting where he wasn’t prepared,” a fellow Councilman remembered at the meeting.
“It could have been prevented,” another said. They knew Apley not as a thrower of online insults but as a nice guy immersed in local problems — on his city councilman Facebook page, he posted about a job fair, a driver’s license renewal deadline and the safest way to thaw frozen pipes.
Skipworth, who said he grew up not knowing his birth father and felt for Apley’s child, said the rhetoric around Apley’s death scared him. “It’s frightening for how we talk to each other in this country,” he said.
“I’m vaccinated, my wife’s vaccinated, my kid will get vaccinated when they approve it,” Skipworth said, as children younger than 12 remain ineligible. “I think that’s the way to prevent this and to get back to more of what we know normal life was. So please, please, do that.”
“I’m not making a political statement,” he continued. “It’s not a mandate. It’s not anything. It’s not shaming. But please, please, do that.”
Just to the west, Davis — the Manvel councilman — was maybe shifting, but not yet sold.
A father of two young children, Davis said that Apley’s death was a reminder to be “responsible, so that I can be here for them.” For 28-year-old Davis, responsibility means getting a coronavirus test if you feel sick, or isolating, or telling your close contacts about an infection. He said he worries about the long-term consequences of the vaccine even as he believes they have done “a tremendous amount of good.”
Apley’s death “challenged” his thinking, said Davis, a conservative who met Apley through the local political scene.
He talked with his wife afterward, and they wondered, “What do we do?” They are praying at the end of every day, he said, waiting to get the vaccine until they have some answer from God.
 

 

Waiting to get the vaccine until they get an answer from god?

How about the divine answer of hard numbers: data shows that the unvaxxed are 11X more likely to die from COVID than vaxxed people.

What kind of fucking “answer” are they waiting for?

I talked to God last night and he told me he is getting pretty fucking tired of these idiots and threatened to kill all of them for their sheer stupidity.

I eventually got him to calm down and talked him off the ledge and he said he would wait and see what happens and what they eventually did. 

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21 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I'll bet she's wild in bed.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2659]

worries about the long-term consequences of the vaccine

Worries about it but doesn't bother to seek out legitimate information. Meanwhile doesn't worry about actual Covid being way fucking worse than the vaccine. Seems about right for this crowd.    [insert Napoleon Dynamite IDIOT gif] 

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[Chooky 13302]

I want to try to convince some people on the Internet that Lenny Dykstra's saliva is a more effective treatment for Covid than Ivermectin.

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13 minutes ago, Chooky said:

I want to try to convince some people on the Internet that Lenny Dykstra's saliva is a more effective treatment for Covid than Ivermectin.

I read that as "sativa".

Same outcome.

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I thought striking people dead was precisely the method God preferred in providing answers. 

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“Republican leaders are to blame for Apley’s death,” said one Houston man’s letter to the editor in the Galveston County Daily News, as the highly transmissible delta variant fueled a new surge of coronavirus cases straining hospitals.
But for others who knew Apley, only one story mattered: His family was suffering, and now, with cruel comments and laughing emoji, strangers from out-of-state were piling on. In Apley’s political sphere, some said the tragedy was only entrenching people’s divisions over the vaccines and a resurging virus — much less sending people soul-searching about their beliefs or their party’s messaging.
“Everyone already has an opinion, and it didn’t change because of Scott,” said Marco Roberts, the Houston-based chairman of the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas. In a Facebook post, he criticized those “seeking to make political points of [Apley’s] death — as if his unique and anecdotal tragedy had anything to do with public policy that affects millions.”
Karen Stoehr, who said she is Apley’s sibling by adoption, also hated the use of Apley’s death to make a public health point, even as she believes so strongly in the coronavirus vaccines that she won’t let people see her 88-year-old dad without them. A full-time caretaker for her ailing father in small-town Kansas, Stoehr said she did not read all the news about her brother, stays away from politics and generally has “other things going on in my life.”
She said she also does not know if Apley’s death has swayed their sister, a teacher who she said has previously declined to get vaccinated and who did not return a call from The Post.
“They’ve been praying for a baby,” Stoehr said of her brother and his wife, her voice starting to quiver. “They just got one. And then he’s gone!”
Apley’s wife, Melissa, declined to be interviewed or discuss her husband’s decision-making but did not dispute people’s belief that he was unvaccinated. She told The Post in text messages that her husband was only “against the government forcing people to get vaccinated.”
She said he supported her choice to get the shot before he fell sick, something Apley’s friends remembered her telling them and sharing on social media.
Melissa Apley said she also got the virus, as Americans learn to expect some level of “breakthrough” infections. But she recovered. She said she has reunited with her months-old son, who tested negative and does not show symptoms.
She said she forgives those who celebrated her husband’s death.
“CONGRATULATIONS,” read one shiny card sent to the city of Dickinson after Apley’s death that echoed the worst of the online comments. “Guess the grim reaper got the last laugh,” the card went on inside, adding a smiley face and welcoming “one more dead Republican.”
Dickinson Mayor Sean Skipworth said the vitriol was “morally wrong” and probably not productive.
“‘Hey, idiots, go get vaccinated,'" he said, as some use the phrase“compassion fatigue” to talk about people who refuse the vaccines. “I mean, I don’t know what that is meant to accomplish.” Many in Apley’s party, under fire for their approach to covid-19, felt similarly.
“No one likes to be shouted into a different opinion,” echoed Roberts of the Log Cabin Republicans. “And so when people start being shouted at and being accused and charged and, you know, besieged, the natural inclination is to … circle the wagons.”
Months of data show that those who get immunized are significantly less likely to get sick, and even less likely to go to the hospital or die from covid-19.
Vaccines show declining effectiveness against infection overall but strong protection against hospitalization
But Roberts focused on uncertainty as he posted about Apley’s death.
“The truth is, we don’t know that had Scott made different choices the outcome would have been any different for him,” he told the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas’ followers on social media, pointing later to breakthrough infections and underlying factors like Apley’s weight.
Apley’s friend Hank Dugie said he believes the most effective messaging on vaccines is “positive, upbeat, motivational” — encouraging but not judgmental. “We don’t press people on getting vaccinated,” said Dugie, who serves as mayor pro tem for League City, Tex., right next to Apley’s town.
The coronavirus situation in Texas has only escalated since Apley’s death. Doctors are pleading for help as the number of hospitalized covid-19 patients statewide approaches levels not seen since the winter. Dugie is chair of his county’s covid-19 business task force and knows that the vast majority of people who fall seriously ill are unvaccinated.
Yet with Apley, he said, he feels no responsibility to “talk about how he died or why he died.” He said he believes in sharing statistics, not emotional stories. “If anything,” Dugie said, in the wake of Apley’s death, “people have retreated into their own confirmation biases.”
Dugie and others in Apley’s political circles also rejected the idea that Republican leaders are to blame.
“It’s not words that are killing people,” said Dan Davis, a city councilman in Manvel, Tex.
“Both parties have had very unfortunate messaging at times,” said Jared Robinson, a Republican state district court judge.
Asked about the Galveston County GOP’s Facebook post claiming the vaccine killed someone, Dugie noted the group’s chairman is a doctor and said, “I don’t think it represents the party at all.”
The county GOP chairman, Patrick McGinnis, said in an email that Republican leaders are anti-mandate, not anti-vaccine or anti-public health. He pointed to a Kaiser Family Foundation polling that shows vaccination rates varying by age, race and education, not just party. Among more than a dozen demographic groups broken out, however, Republicans had the lowest levels of immunization.
McGinnis said that he is vaccinated and encourages others to get their shots whenever they ask. He also said the Facebook post about the alleged vaccine death does not represent the party’s “official position” and agreed there was no clear evidence for it.
But the physician said he does not want to intervene in his group’s postings.
“Better to let people share their opinions and post articles, rather than try to be the Facebook policeman,” he said.
Jeff Larson, an official with the Harris County Republican Party, said he believes that some leaders of local GOP groups are reflecting their base’s views on vaccines or “don’t want to tackle the issue directly for fear — for fear of alienating a large segment of the party.”
“Certainly if you are a person in the United States today and you want to believe a conspiracy theory about vaccines … you’ll probably land in our party,” he said.
The last time Larson saw Apley alive, he said, was at the funeral of Jeff LeBlanc, another man active in Texas Republican politics who died of covid-19. Before that, the coronavirus took Texan and Republican Liberty Caucus leader Dave Nalle.
Just a few days after Apley’s death, 61-year-old Larson got his first shot — the timing was a coincidence, Larson said, it just took him awhile to make it in.
Vaccination rates in the United States have ticked up in recent weeks, public health officials say, as fears spike with the delta variant. Galveston County is no exception, according to the local health district. State datahas it lagging a few percentage points behind the nation as a whole, with full vaccination for about 57 percent of the population 12 and over.
Officials urged holdouts to reconsider at last week’s Dickinson City Council meeting, where the masked-up mayor read Apley’s name at roll call and then waited six long seconds before moving on.
“He did his homework, he never came to a council meeting where he wasn’t prepared,” a fellow Councilman remembered at the meeting.
“It could have been prevented,” another said. They knew Apley not as a thrower of online insults but as a nice guy immersed in local problems — on his city councilman Facebook page, he posted about a job fair, a driver’s license renewal deadline and the safest way to thaw frozen pipes.
Skipworth, who said he grew up not knowing his birth father and felt for Apley’s child, said the rhetoric around Apley’s death scared him. “It’s frightening for how we talk to each other in this country,” he said.
“I’m vaccinated, my wife’s vaccinated, my kid will get vaccinated when they approve it,” Skipworth said, as children younger than 12 remain ineligible. “I think that’s the way to prevent this and to get back to more of what we know normal life was. So please, please, do that.”
“I’m not making a political statement,” he continued. “It’s not a mandate. It’s not anything. It’s not shaming. But please, please, do that.”
Just to the west, Davis — the Manvel councilman — was maybe shifting, but not yet sold.
A father of two young children, Davis said that Apley’s death was a reminder to be “responsible, so that I can be here for them.” For 28-year-old Davis, responsibility means getting a coronavirus test if you feel sick, or isolating, or telling your close contacts about an infection. He said he worries about the long-term consequences of the vaccine even as he believes they have done “a tremendous amount of good.”
Apley’s death “challenged” his thinking, said Davis, a conservative who met Apley through the local political scene.
He talked with his wife afterward, and they wondered, “What do we do?” They are praying at the end of every day, he said, waiting to get the vaccine until they have some answer from God.
 

 

Waiting to get the vaccine until they get an answer from god?

How about the divine answer of hard numbers: data shows that the unvaxxed are 11X more likely to die from COVID than vaxxed people.

What kind of fucking “answer” are they waiting for?

God, actually screaming right now -

“I SENT THE ANSWER! THE VACCINE! IDIOTS!”

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

 
 
 
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“Republican leaders are to blame for Apley’s death,” said one Houston man’s letter to the editor in the Galveston County Daily News, as the highly transmissible delta variant fueled a new surge of coronavirus cases straining hospitals.
But for others who knew Apley, only one story mattered: His family was suffering, and now, with cruel comments and laughing emoji, strangers from out-of-state were piling on. In Apley’s political sphere, some said the tragedy was only entrenching people’s divisions over the vaccines and a resurging virus — much less sending people soul-searching about their beliefs or their party’s messaging.
“Everyone already has an opinion, and it didn’t change because of Scott,” said Marco Roberts, the Houston-based chairman of the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas. In a Facebook post, he criticized those “seeking to make political points of [Apley’s] death — as if his unique and anecdotal tragedy had anything to do with public policy that affects millions.”
Karen Stoehr, who said she is Apley’s sibling by adoption, also hated the use of Apley’s death to make a public health point, even as she believes so strongly in the coronavirus vaccines that she won’t let people see her 88-year-old dad without them. A full-time caretaker for her ailing father in small-town Kansas, Stoehr said she did not read all the news about her brother, stays away from politics and generally has “other things going on in my life.”
She said she also does not know if Apley’s death has swayed their sister, a teacher who she said has previously declined to get vaccinated and who did not return a call from The Post.
“They’ve been praying for a baby,” Stoehr said of her brother and his wife, her voice starting to quiver. “They just got one. And then he’s gone!”
Apley’s wife, Melissa, declined to be interviewed or discuss her husband’s decision-making but did not dispute people’s belief that he was unvaccinated. She told The Post in text messages that her husband was only “against the government forcing people to get vaccinated.”
She said he supported her choice to get the shot before he fell sick, something Apley’s friends remembered her telling them and sharing on social media.
Melissa Apley said she also got the virus, as Americans learn to expect some level of “breakthrough” infections. But she recovered. She said she has reunited with her months-old son, who tested negative and does not show symptoms.
She said she forgives those who celebrated her husband’s death.
“CONGRATULATIONS,” read one shiny card sent to the city of Dickinson after Apley’s death that echoed the worst of the online comments. “Guess the grim reaper got the last laugh,” the card went on inside, adding a smiley face and welcoming “one more dead Republican.”
Dickinson Mayor Sean Skipworth said the vitriol was “morally wrong” and probably not productive.
“‘Hey, idiots, go get vaccinated,'" he said, as some use the phrase“compassion fatigue” to talk about people who refuse the vaccines. “I mean, I don’t know what that is meant to accomplish.” Many in Apley’s party, under fire for their approach to covid-19, felt similarly.
“No one likes to be shouted into a different opinion,” echoed Roberts of the Log Cabin Republicans. “And so when people start being shouted at and being accused and charged and, you know, besieged, the natural inclination is to … circle the wagons.”
Months of data show that those who get immunized are significantly less likely to get sick, and even less likely to go to the hospital or die from covid-19.
Vaccines show declining effectiveness against infection overall but strong protection against hospitalization
But Roberts focused on uncertainty as he posted about Apley’s death.
“The truth is, we don’t know that had Scott made different choices the outcome would have been any different for him,” he told the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas’ followers on social media, pointing later to breakthrough infections and underlying factors like Apley’s weight.
Apley’s friend Hank Dugie said he believes the most effective messaging on vaccines is “positive, upbeat, motivational” — encouraging but not judgmental. “We don’t press people on getting vaccinated,” said Dugie, who serves as mayor pro tem for League City, Tex., right next to Apley’s town.
The coronavirus situation in Texas has only escalated since Apley’s death. Doctors are pleading for help as the number of hospitalized covid-19 patients statewide approaches levels not seen since the winter. Dugie is chair of his county’s covid-19 business task force and knows that the vast majority of people who fall seriously ill are unvaccinated.
Yet with Apley, he said, he feels no responsibility to “talk about how he died or why he died.” He said he believes in sharing statistics, not emotional stories. “If anything,” Dugie said, in the wake of Apley’s death, “people have retreated into their own confirmation biases.”
Dugie and others in Apley’s political circles also rejected the idea that Republican leaders are to blame.
“It’s not words that are killing people,” said Dan Davis, a city councilman in Manvel, Tex.
“Both parties have had very unfortunate messaging at times,” said Jared Robinson, a Republican state district court judge.
Asked about the Galveston County GOP’s Facebook post claiming the vaccine killed someone, Dugie noted the group’s chairman is a doctor and said, “I don’t think it represents the party at all.”
The county GOP chairman, Patrick McGinnis, said in an email that Republican leaders are anti-mandate, not anti-vaccine or anti-public health. He pointed to a Kaiser Family Foundation polling that shows vaccination rates varying by age, race and education, not just party. Among more than a dozen demographic groups broken out, however, Republicans had the lowest levels of immunization.
McGinnis said that he is vaccinated and encourages others to get their shots whenever they ask. He also said the Facebook post about the alleged vaccine death does not represent the party’s “official position” and agreed there was no clear evidence for it.
But the physician said he does not want to intervene in his group’s postings.
“Better to let people share their opinions and post articles, rather than try to be the Facebook policeman,” he said.
Jeff Larson, an official with the Harris County Republican Party, said he believes that some leaders of local GOP groups are reflecting their base’s views on vaccines or “don’t want to tackle the issue directly for fear — for fear of alienating a large segment of the party.”
“Certainly if you are a person in the United States today and you want to believe a conspiracy theory about vaccines … you’ll probably land in our party,” he said.
The last time Larson saw Apley alive, he said, was at the funeral of Jeff LeBlanc, another man active in Texas Republican politics who died of covid-19. Before that, the coronavirus took Texan and Republican Liberty Caucus leader Dave Nalle.
Just a few days after Apley’s death, 61-year-old Larson got his first shot — the timing was a coincidence, Larson said, it just took him awhile to make it in.
Vaccination rates in the United States have ticked up in recent weeks, public health officials say, as fears spike with the delta variant. Galveston County is no exception, according to the local health district. State datahas it lagging a few percentage points behind the nation as a whole, with full vaccination for about 57 percent of the population 12 and over.
Officials urged holdouts to reconsider at last week’s Dickinson City Council meeting, where the masked-up mayor read Apley’s name at roll call and then waited six long seconds before moving on.
“He did his homework, he never came to a council meeting where he wasn’t prepared,” a fellow Councilman remembered at the meeting.
“It could have been prevented,” another said. They knew Apley not as a thrower of online insults but as a nice guy immersed in local problems — on his city councilman Facebook page, he posted about a job fair, a driver’s license renewal deadline and the safest way to thaw frozen pipes.
Skipworth, who said he grew up not knowing his birth father and felt for Apley’s child, said the rhetoric around Apley’s death scared him. “It’s frightening for how we talk to each other in this country,” he said.
“I’m vaccinated, my wife’s vaccinated, my kid will get vaccinated when they approve it,” Skipworth said, as children younger than 12 remain ineligible. “I think that’s the way to prevent this and to get back to more of what we know normal life was. So please, please, do that.”
“I’m not making a political statement,” he continued. “It’s not a mandate. It’s not anything. It’s not shaming. But please, please, do that.”
Just to the west, Davis — the Manvel councilman — was maybe shifting, but not yet sold.
A father of two young children, Davis said that Apley’s death was a reminder to be “responsible, so that I can be here for them.” For 28-year-old Davis, responsibility means getting a coronavirus test if you feel sick, or isolating, or telling your close contacts about an infection. He said he worries about the long-term consequences of the vaccine even as he believes they have done “a tremendous amount of good.”
Apley’s death “challenged” his thinking, said Davis, a conservative who met Apley through the local political scene.
He talked with his wife afterward, and they wondered, “What do we do?” They are praying at the end of every day, he said, waiting to get the vaccine until they have some answer from God.
 

 

Waiting to get the vaccine until they get an answer from god?

How about the divine answer of hard numbers: data shows that the unvaxxed are 11X more likely to die from COVID than vaxxed people.

What kind of fucking “answer” are they waiting for?

Two boats and a helicopter 

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5 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

In for the prostate exam. 

[Underdog 28450]

17 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Two boats and a helicopter 

Beat me to it.  

[Underdog 28450]

17 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

Shhh, let Ingraham take it all.  Elmers is waiting on line-1. 

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FAAFO

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

FAAFO

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

FAAFO

 

 

WAHOOWA!

[Mole 4320]

Jesus: you shall not put the Lord you God to the test.

OT God: Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah.

Paul: Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.

Paul: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.

Jesus: Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

American Christians: still waiting on God

[Brisketexan 104586]

Jesus: you shall not put the Lord you God to the test.
OT God: Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah.
Paul: Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
Paul: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.
Jesus: Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
American Christians: still waiting on God

American Christians still waiting on becoming Christian.

[HenryJames 65888]

[4th&Five 41459]

[Beau Vine 53999]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

Fuck it, the more morons who OD on horse paste the better.

I hate that I think that, but I have had enough...

[atomheartbevo 89414]

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Fuck it, the more morons who OD on horse paste the better.

I hate that I think that, but I have had enough...

The rest of us shouldn't have to engage in socialism and eat their hospital bills.

[jimmyjazz 45554]

I bounce back and forth between schadenfreude and compassion.

The more beer I drink, the less compassion I have.

[C-Man 27049]

[lmao 178]

Anti-lockdown protests in Melbourne:

 

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

Whoa!  Turns out God does answer prayers!

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

14 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

 

Whoa!  Turns out God does answer prayers!

 

God is gonna kill all these dumb motherfuckers.

[Biff Tannen 45492]

7 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Right about time for slorch to come in here and make some ridiculous point totally derailing the thread. 

The simulation would have it no other way. 

[Aqua Buddha 14504]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

[Aqua Buddha 14504]

2 hours ago, Mole said:

Jesus: you shall not put the Lord you God to the test.

OT God: Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah.

Paul: Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.

Paul: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.

Jesus: Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

American Christians: still waiting on God

Tell them the virus is a pox on them for believing in a false idol in Donald Trump and watch their heads fucking explode.

[Biff Tannen 45492]

Was there an anti-vaxx dumbshit rally at the Texas Capitol today?  Sister casually mentioned she protested something for four hours this morning. She has no other political stance, so I have to assume it was that. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

6 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

Need the recording of the “Vaxman” song. You know, just to start the day off right.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33840]

6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Was there an anti-vaxx dumbshit rally at the Texas Capitol today?  Sister casually mentioned she protested something for four hours this morning. She has no other political stance, so I have to assume it was that. 

I'm sorry about your regarded sister

[ultimaton 2966]

4 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Need the recording of the “Vaxman” song. You know, just to start the day off right.

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33840]

that motherfucker was in the hospital for a month? how the fuck much did that cost us?

[washparkhorn 9935]

On 8/19/2021 at 10:58 PM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Been waiting for something like this to happen:

 

God Bless the U.S.A.!!!

AI: How capitalism assigns negative externalities - irrational choices and public health. 

[Aqua Buddha 14504]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

that motherfucker was in the hospital for a month? how the fuck much did that cost us?

At least there's an ICU bed opening up in Nashville now.

[Biff Tannen 45492]

5 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm sorry about your regarded sister

Yep, so am I. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

4 minutes ago, ultimaton said:

 

Just imagine that being your legacy and last act in life. You’re basically a joke.

[Post Oak 20184]

10 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Need the recording of the “Vaxman” song. You know, just to start the day off right.

Vaxman.  Fighter of the Covidman. Ah ah ah.

 

[atomheartbevo 89414]

6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

that motherfucker was in the hospital for a month? how the fuck much did that cost us?

People like him make the rest of us socialists for having to pick up the tab.

[atomheartbevo 89414]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/21/us/rev-jesse-jackson-wife-hospitalized-coronavirus/index.html

Jesse Jackson and wife hospitalized.  Both late 870s.

Edited August 22, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[UDontKnow 10439]

12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/21/us/rev-jesse-jackson-wife-hospitalized-coronavirus/index.html

Jesse Jackson and wife hospitalized.  Both late 80s.

Late 70s. He's 79, she's 77. Both are still olds. Maybe I missed it, but are they fully vaccinated?

Jesse also diagnosed with Parkinson's disease earlier this year. It hasn't been a good year for him healthwise.

EDIT: Found the answer to my question.

 

Edited August 22, 2021 by UDontKnow

[atomheartbevo 89414]

4 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

Late 70s. He's 79, she's' 77. Both are still olds. Maybe I missed it, but are they fully vaccinated?

Given his medical issues, I would have assumed so.

[Celery Man 20883]

He died doing what he loved. Being a stupid bitch.

[Aqua Buddha 14504]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Just imagine that being your legacy and last act in life. You’re basically a joke.

His wife/widow looks alright.  She prolly got some life insurance and will marry a vaccinated guy in a year or so.

[Satchel 6908]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

Man! This particular segment of the herd is thinning rapidly.

[Francisco 2.0 32320]

 

 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19093]

So, there were anti-vax protesters in Central Park.  I told some of them I was rooting for COVID against them.  And I flipped a bunch of them off.  It felt good.

Edited August 22, 2021 by PenelopeWitherspoon