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10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Hays County apparently going against the CDC and telling people to go on about their normal lives, according to Statesman.

So they declared a state of disaster 24 hours ago then today are going to say just ignore that whole disaster thing and go about your normal business? 

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I'd just like to point out that neither myself nor any of my fellow nurses, fellow advanced nurse practitioners, and other healthcare providers ever swore an oath that we would lay down our lives for

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Welp, it finally happened. I snapped in public today. I went into work for a bit this morning because I’m trying to figure out the safest way to host physicians we are recruiting given our CV-19 sit

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I don't really know what to say anymore tbh. What happened last night is hard to put into words for anyone who hasn't worked in a hospital healthcare setting. Just unreal. Everyone is getting fucked.

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1 hour ago, yoladu said:

So our neighbors Canada and Mexico are fairing better.

Factors: I guess lower populations, less social mobility (ie: global travel), warmer temps (myth?). anything else?

That may be true of Mexico, but Canadians travel more than Americans do and also have better social mobility than Americans.  The big difference is that they have a universal healthcare system so it is easier for them to implement nationwide measures.  They also have an adequately competent national government, they mostly trust that government, and they have fewer outlets like Fox News and Rush which actively try to undermine their efforts to have a functioning nation.

They are also more willing to endure some individual sacrifice for the common good.  Americans, on the other hand, are probably the most individually selfish people on Earth. 

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2 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

That may be true of Mexico, but Canadians travel more than Americans do and also have better social mobility than Americans.  The big difference is that they have a universal healthcare system so it is easier for them to implement nationwide measures.  They also have an adequately competent national government, they mostly trust that government, and they have fewer outlets like Fox News and Rush which actively try to undermine their efforts to have a functioning nation.

They are also more willing to endure some individual sacrifice for the common good.  Americans, on the other hand, are probably the most individually selfish people on Earth. 

If there was any doubt before this situation came along to remove all doubt. There's a lot of good people in this country who are doing the right thing to help their society but we definitely have the largest bitchass selfish fuckhead population by capita on the planet. 

The republicans might be the largest doomsday cult on the planet. 

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

My wife's 80yr old grandmother was sharing this shit and saying it's veracity just a couple days ago. She's a smart woman, but drinks deep from the fox news fountain and believes state tv over medical experts.

Fuck so many old people are putting themselves at risk for no reason but to own the libs. 

"Fox and Facebook" are agents of death for many over 65. 

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1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

Abbott not closing bars.  Fuck head

Shithead Texans Republicans (mostly) still want to go to bars, and he doesn't want to piss them off.   We've  got plenty of trumpkins out her too...screaming about how their freedom is being taken away.

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22 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

That may be true of Mexico, but Canadians travel more than Americans do and also have better social mobility than Americans.  The big difference is that they have a universal healthcare system so it is easier for them to implement nationwide measures.  They also have an adequately competent national government, they mostly trust that government, and they have fewer outlets like Fox News and Rush which actively try to undermine their efforts to have a functioning nation.

They are also more willing to endure some individual sacrifice for the common good.  Americans, on the other hand, are probably the most individually selfish people on Earth. 

Dont disagree, plus there are lot less of them... 37.59 million.

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4 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Shithead Texans Republicans (mostly) still want to go to bars, and he doesn't want to piss them off.   We've  got plenty of trumpkins out her too...screaming about how their freedom is being taken away.

People on the Trump board is thinking he's going to use martial law, but also Trumpkins are not wanting thier freedoms taken away. This is a weird conundrum.

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4 hours ago, triplehorn said:

Re that “holding your breath for 10 sec” deal, I came across this (no idea if this is legitimate or not):  

From member of the Stanford hospital board. This is their feedback for now on Corona virus: The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. Please send and share this with family and friends. Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon."
 

To the extent the above is accurate, it sounds like the pneumonia phase happens several days after the fever breaks and in part involves an immune response run amok where antibodies confuse lung tissue with virus and cause fibrosis.  This doesn’t happen to everyone but is a main contributing reason people are hospitalized and need ventilation.  So it stands to reason a lot of people WILL get and have Covid-19, but not the complicated pneumonia as demonstrated by passing the lung inhalation test.  So don’t be misled and be in a position to potentially spread it.  At least that’s how I read it.  It could be the lung test fails earlier in the onset when fever starts, don’t know.


 

office manager sent a fw:fw:fw:

i asked her not to spread disinformation and sent back a fact check link, then got yelled at for 10 minutes about how you can't trust the media or fact check and how we're being controlled and look at what the media is doing to people ("yeah, you're demonstrating what it's doing to people right now") or northeastern universities running fact check sites and even if my trusted fw:fw:fw: source is wrong about the virus not being able to survive a warm water gargle or they're wrong about it not causing sputum there's still good information in there about washing your hands or not sneezing on people and i don't think they're going to impose marshall [i see you marco] law but that rumor is floating out there but they're closing restaurants so maybe they will and i didn't forward that to you and how dare you ask me not to forward disinformation you have no right to do that

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The owner of Kid Rock's Big Ass Honky Tonk Rock N' Roll Steakhouse in Nashville said he is refusing to follow Mayor John Cooper's plan to shut down all bars in the city's tourist hot-spot Lower Broadway during the coronavirus pandemic. After a video of a packed bar went viral overnight, the Metro Board of Health approved a plan to shut down all bars in Davidson County, including the honky-tonks in downtown Nashville. The Tennessee Department of Health reported 39 cases of coronavirus in the state, with 17 in Davidson County alone.

After Cooper announced his plans, Steve Smith, who owns the bar with Kid Rock's name on it, as well as The Diner and Tootsie's Orchid Lounge, said he will not follow the rule until a statewide mandate is issued. Smith called the decision "unconstitutional."

"Unless there's a statewide mandate that directs all bars and restaurants to be closed, the request made by Mayor Cooper is unconstitutional as he is targeting a select group of businesses," Smith said in a statement. "We are compassionate with those who have contracted the COVID-19 coronavirus and all who are helping manage the crisis as the entire world addresses the outbreak. However, a Tootsie's patron as immediate as last night, mentioned having lived through the polio epidemic and didn't recall such extreme measures being handed down in history."

 
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1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

He drove from Florida to Vail?  He needs to quit being poor.

Taking a flight was too much of a risk, but he’s fine standing in a lift line next to hundreds/thousands of other people who are breathing heavily because they spend one week per year at an altitude that high.

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24 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

It's interesting that their "best case" scenario is the burn fast and bright scenario. Their "best case" is the option where lots of people die really quickly and the market recovers.

Shows you where their heads are at.

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6 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Canada closes its border to non-citizens. (but not US citizens at this time)

Sigh.

Time to talk to the daughter about plans to repatriate.  Doesn't mean anything to her right now -- she'll be coming FROM Canada, not to it.  The open question will remain the US border, and whether they will allow citizens to repatriate.

I think I'm going to have to tell her to pack her stuff and get it ready to put in storage downstairs quickly, as she may need to hop on a flight with about a day's notice.

Fuck.  Fucking fuck.  Shit.

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29 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

However, a Tootsie's patron as immediate as last night, mentioned having lived through the polio epidemic and didn't recall such extreme measures being handed down in history."

How the fuck old are their patrons?  

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7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sigh.

Time to talk to the daughter about plans to repatriate.  Doesn't mean anything to her right now -- she'll be coming FROM Canada, not to it.  The open question will remain the US border, and whether they will allow citizens to repatriate.

I think I'm going to have to tell her to pack her stuff and get it ready to put in storage downstairs quickly, as she may need to hop on a flight with about a day's notice.

Fuck.  Fucking fuck.  Shit.

Dude, if she's in Canada, you should tell her to stay there...probably her safest option.  

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52 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

People on the Trump board is thinking he's going to use martial law, but also Trumpkins are not wanting thier freedoms taken away. This is a weird conundrum.

Trumpkins love them some authoritarianism.  They will concede and praise Herr Trump.

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3 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Can't do it--Contracts Clause.

if you had an effective president who was on top of things and not ideologically bound he would be leaning on the banks pretty hard right now.  "remember that time main street bailed out wall street?"

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44 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

The owner of Kid Rock's Big Ass Honky Tonk Rock N' Roll Steakhouse in Nashville said he is refusing to follow Mayor John Cooper's plan to shut down all bars in the city's tourist hot-spot Lower Broadway during the coronavirus pandemic. After a video of a packed bar went viral overnight, the Metro Board of Health approved a plan to shut down all bars in Davidson County, including the honky-tonks in downtown Nashville. The Tennessee Department of Health reported 39 cases of coronavirus in the state, with 17 in Davidson County alone.

After Cooper announced his plans, Steve Smith, who owns the bar with Kid Rock's name on it, as well as The Diner and Tootsie's Orchid Lounge, said he will not follow the rule until a statewide mandate is issued. Smith called the decision "unconstitutional."

"Unless there's a statewide mandate that directs all bars and restaurants to be closed, the request made by Mayor Cooper is unconstitutional as he is targeting a select group of businesses," Smith said in a statement. "We are compassionate with those who have contracted the COVID-19 coronavirus and all who are helping manage the crisis as the entire world addresses the outbreak. However, a Tootsie's patron as immediate as last night, mentioned having lived through the polio epidemic and didn't recall such extreme measures being handed down in history."

 

What is it with fucking Conservatives and their reliance on anecdotal accounts?

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1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

People on the Trump board is thinking he's going to use martial law, but also Trumpkins are not wanting thier freedoms taken away. This is a weird conundrum.

ummm, it is Marshall Law, dumbass!

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48 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

He drove from Florida to Vail?  He needs to quit being poor.

Maybe he was doing what I am tempted to do. Drive and avoid airports. Get to the 70% off room with a balcony and a kick as view. Wipe it down, order pizza and enjoy the outdoors plus the room. Refuse daily service and use one's own towels. Avoid all contact with others and drive back. Probably won't do it but it sure is tempting. 

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