Thing$ $till not going well for Joe Rogan, I $ee.

[Poe It Up 126]

Yeah, I think you guys got trolled about the Foo Fighters. All I see is people asking them to remove music, It’s actually a little sad. 

[hpslugga 4058]

46 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Generic companies are more predatory.

BUT THEY’RE STILL BETTER THAN BIG PHARMA BECAUSE THINGS AND STUFF!!!

46 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

They don’t invest in r&d, they wait for patent expirations and then undercut the company that spent the time and money on drug development.

Ah yes, the “lurker around the slot machines” approach. Well, that’s one way I suppose. 

 

[Bullneck 19090]

31 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

Yeah, I think you guys got trolled about the Foo Fighters. All I see is people asking them to remove music, It’s actually a little sad. 

That's a victory for you, then.  You have owned the libs.

[956 Worldwide 34715]

I’m really starting to think that MSNBC, the Networks, the Times, the Post need to start engaging in infowars. Publish a bunch of shit about how the vaxx was invented to enrich Donald Trump and his cronies and now getting vaxxed is an expression of white supremacy and staying unvaxxed promotes critical race theory.  See how long it takes for the rubes to adopt Pfizer like it was MyPillow. 

[Poe It Up 126]

27 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

That's a victory for you, then.  You have owned the libs.

Naw, I’m just a Spotify junkie. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by Poe It Up
Not junky

[David Dennison 18860]

55 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

Yeah, I think you guys got trolled about the Foo Fighters. All I see is people asking them to remove music, It’s actually a little sad. 

What's really sad is a corporate platform promoting the type of misinformation that leads to an unnecessarily crowded healthcare system.

[Bullneck 19090]

13 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

Naw, I’m just a Spotify junkie. 

Nothing better than people who care a lot about their favorite streaming service and nothing about the healthcare workers overloaded by two years of a pandemic.

[Poe It Up 126]

22 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What's really sad is a corporate platform promoting the type of misinformation that leads to an unnecessarily crowded healthcare system.

Yeah, it is sad that people go to him for medical advice. I tried to verify your claim and only saw a random woman on Twitter, guess she got her 15 minutes. 

17 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Nothing better than people who care a lot about their favorite streaming service and nothing about the healthcare workers overloaded by two years of a pandemic.

Yeah, and I even watch online porn too. I’m pretty evil. 

[David Dennison 18860]

23 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:

Yeah, it is sad that people go to him for medical advice. I tried to verify your claim and only saw a random woman on Twitter, guess she got her 15 minutes. 

Yeah, and I even watch online porn too. I’m pretty evil. 

In fairness to me, it was a whole slew of people on the twitter machine this morning, some even had little blue check marks.

 

[Anastasis 23469]

Speaking of dumbasses and HCQ, whatever happened to @triplehorn.  Did that dude stroke out or something?  Anyone know him in real life and doing a well check?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33870]

1 hour ago, Poe It Up said:

Naw, I’m just a Spotify junkie. 

fwiw there are other platforms that do the same, many attached to services you might already be paying for. for me, that was youtube music

[F250 28775]

27 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Speaking of dumbasses and HCQ, whatever happened to @triplehorn.  Did that dude stroke out or something?  Anyone know him in real life and doing a well check?

Shit, I forgot about that guy. I hope he didn't find out the hard way.

 

[RomaVicta 29907]

16 hours ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

This post has stuck with me most of the day. That graphic is the perfect illustration of a mindset.

1. A point is made about anything. The point is never met with anything like rational argument. 
2. Present long-debunked factoid. (I don't attach rationality to regurgition and often willfull deception)
3. Emotional attack on stubborn facts usually by decrying any source other than the provider to the debunked factoid mentioned above. Doctors are idiots compared to the internet. CNN lies about everything.
4. Lastly, smug dismissal of the troublesome facts or any person embracing same. See the graphic above. 

This process is made holy dogma by the certainty that it is proof against the wickedness of illusory socialism, liberalism, and progressivism that everybody know carry the hidden agenda of wanting to destroy America.

Nobody Cares

It's actually nobody in Immaculate Vibes' circle cares. At least until it's too late.

 

Edited January 29, 2022 by RomaVicta

[HenryJames 66052]

30 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Speaking of dumbasses and HCQ, whatever happened to @triplehorn.  Did that dude stroke out or something?  Anyone know him in real life and doing a well check?

His last post:

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Take a step back and look at the larger timeline.  Some poster(s) spiked the football at the 50 yard line back in March-May with baseless mocking and bad understanding.  The evidence in support of early home treatment using several agents was emerging early on confounded by a fraudulent study in Lancet, and a shitgibbon no one trusts.  But that evidence has more than quadrupled since the summer, particularly in the last 2-3 months.  Those who spiked at the 50 back then can't acknowledge they fumbled today.  This isn't a competition.  The evidence is clear and overwhelming.  I know you're not a science denier.  Prove the science wrong.  No one is doing that.  It's quack, clown, gif, blah blah without critical thinking showing a grasp of what's real or not. 

To your reference about 'crying wolf', take what we had on HCQ in the spring vs today.  Today there are now over 100 peer reviewed published studies, both RCT and observational, that taken together show a 64% risk reduction for hospitalization and death when it's started in an early outpatient setting.  The odds HCQ doesn't benefit in that scenario is 1:17 billion.  If you just take RCT's for early home use of HCQ, the relative risk reduction is still 24%.  But as of the last 2-3 weeks, it's becoming rapidly clear that Ivermectin is just flat out superior across all phases of the illness and continuing to separate.  That's not crying wolf. 

 

[Gourmand 7774]

fwiw there are other platforms that do the same, many attached to services you might already be paying for. for me, that was youtube music

Yep, I cancelled my Spotify account last week because I got a free three month trial from YT music.

[VivaNaranja 466]

If Neil Young or Joni Mitchell really gave a shit wouldn't they demand that I Heart Radio stop playing their music? They distribute dozens of lunatic right wing radio hosts disseminating vaccine misinformation after all.

 

Btw I think Rogan is a fucking moron and I am totally pro vaccine.

Edited January 29, 2022 by VivaNaranja

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

25 minutes ago, VivaNaranja said:

If Neil Young or Joni Mitchell really gave a shit wouldn't they demand that I Heart Radio stop playing their music? They distribute dozens of lunatic right wing radio hosts disseminating vaccine misinformation after all.

 

Btw I think Rogan is a fucking moron and I am totally pro vaccine.

It’s Rogan and his guests that the loons are posting about on their social media and using to defend their positions, not whoever are on iheart. 
 

Spotlight is on him so that’s why he’s the main topic. 

[Neonmoon 38129]

It’s more than music. (She has a large exclusive deal with Spotify)
 

 

[atomheartbevo 89666]

13 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

It’s more than music. (She has a large exclusive deal with Spotify)

She's a UT grad, and still does some work there:

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I’m a research professor at the University of Houston, where I hold the Huffington Foundation Endowed Chair. I am also a visiting professor in management at the University of Texas at Austin McCombs School of Business. 

 

[fattyflattie 4639]

9 hours ago, Hermanator said:

"I have a black friend"

"I have a gay friend"

"I know a source in the program and he said Casey Thompson is a giant asshole who tried to quit in September"

I used to be a republican. 

[Hermanator 7050]

4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It’s Rogan and his guests that the loons are posting about on their social media and using to defend their positions, not whoever are on iheart. 
 

Spotlight is on him so that’s why he’s the main topic. 

Think about how crazy it is that a guy (Rogan) who for years on his podcast told people not to take his opinions seriously because he doesn't know shit is the one the nutty republican uses as some sort of authority figure. 

Then again, Rogan's gotta be smarter than Trump so maybe they're improving 

[Sawbonz 27561]

16 hours ago, Bravo said:

FYI those 2 drugs you mentioned are generic and can be produced by any company. They're not super profitable branded drugs anymore. 

Now do casirivimab and imdevimab

 

[Sawbonz 27561]

7 hours ago, F250 said:

Shit, I forgot about that guy. I hope he didn't find out the hard way.

 

I don’t remember him being anti vax he was just all about HCQ and ivermectin before there was a vax. Was also all in on the Steele dossier being gospel. Some of his posts seemed to indicate he is a psychiatrist IIRC 

[TwiceHorn 31470]

22 hours ago, hpslugga said:

So why are they asserting that hydroxychloroquine, which is made by Sanofi, and Ivermectin, which is made by Merck, are valid treatments for COVID? I mean you couldn’t have picked two medications that are more Big Pharma than those. Mere skepticism doesn’t drive that kind of idiocy. That’s driven by an overconfidence in an ability they do not actually possess. “Everyone in the CDC is wrong, but I’m not!”

Again, it’s not so much the skepticism, it’s their idiotic alternative suggestions. It’s not enough to cast doubt on what mainstream medical communities are recommending. To actually prove they’re wrong, you also have to suggest valid alternatives, and they fail rather spectacularly at that. The whole entire premise behind what they’re saying is the ugly cousin of the God of the gaps fallacy: “I don’t believe science provided by Big Pharma, therefore magic (which again is also attributed to Big Pharma)”

And again, I mean no disrespect to you directly, but it’s been my observation that lawyers are the hardest peddlers of this Ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine/anti-vaccine drivel. But regardless of their actual profession, the output is the same: they are cosplaying doctors and medical professionals in general. You cannot justify skepticism with make believe and demand respect for such positions.

Science basically works like a game of king of the hill. Something assumes the role of king, and everyone else has the absolute right to, within certain guidelines, knock it off and if they succeed, they’re the new “king” unless and until someone else knocks them off. Much as the Joe Bros want to believe it, Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine haven’t even come close to knocking off monoclonals. Vaccination has never come close to being knocked of by non-vaccination. You don’t win king of the hill by declaring yourself king from the bottom of the fucking hill.

Those are very valid points, but I wasn't trying to justify their stupidity entirely.  Just why some otherwise sane and reasonable people get sucked into it.

There are others, of course, that will buy any conspiracy theory out there that seems to conform with their worldview, or creates one they like.  E.g. Qanon types.

I don't know any lawyers that are peddlers of that shit.  There are a lot of dumbass lawyers out there.

 

[TwiceHorn 31470]

12 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

They don’t invest in r&d, they wait for patent expirations and then undercut the company that spent the time and money on drug development.

I mean, that's exactly why the patent system exists.  A monopoly of finite duration, and usually pretty limited scope, in return for disclosure and an end to that monopoly.  It's intended ultimately to enhance competition and lower prices.  And efforts to design-around unexpired patents is its own form of innovation.

The FDA keeps that competition from being very stiff, though, because manufacturers must be approved for that drug, and the generic drug itself approved, and those are pretty stiff barriers to entry, as the fees alone are hundreds of thousands of dollars, let alone the cost of producing the required data, and it takes years to get generic approval.

In other words, because of generic drug approval processes, not "just anyone can make a generic drug" because the patent expired.

But as far as marketing shenanigans, yeah, they're just as bad.

Edited January 30, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[henrygandorf 29191]

5 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Think about how crazy it is that a guy (Rogan) who for years on his podcast told people not to take his opinions seriously because he doesn't know shit is the one the nutty republican uses as some sort of authority figure. 

morons love to cite people who agree with them. confirmation bias and such. 

[scottsins 1966]

So he was going to get the vax anyway? Do you listen to his show or short edited clips? 

He was going to get the J&J vaccine.

[scottsins 1966]

Think about how crazy it is that a guy (Rogan) who for years on his podcast told people not to take his opinions seriously because he doesn't know shit is the one the nutty republican uses as some sort of authority figure. 
Then again, Rogan's gotta be smarter than Trump so maybe they're improving 

And a guy who endorsed Bernie Sanders and said that he would have voted for him or Andrew Yang over Trump. Some of my nutter acquaintances just now getting into Rogan are shocked when I tell them.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13512]

One problem with Rogan is how he handles serious topics vs non-serious. If he talks about MMA, he may have on several guests that have a strong collective knowledge on the topic. They can challenge each other on their opinions. And most likely not every MMA panel member has complete knowledge but overall, they do. It’s a constructive conversation of opinions.

when he wants to talk about vaccine dangers, he has on Dr. Robert Malone. Malone has deep vaccine knowledge and he’s critical of the Covid vaccine. Rogan doesn’t bring on someone else that can refute, disagree or even agree. Malone has a lot of facts but that doesn’t mean his conclusion is 100% accurate.  And since Rogan isn’t prepared on information, Malone’s arguments win the interview.

I like Rogan when he has a guest/topic on which Rogan is knowledgeable. I recently rewatched his Louis Theroux show when Louis was promoting his Scientology documentary. Rogan has an interest in Scientology and has some personal knowledge on how they treat celebrities. It was a good conversation. Or if Rogan has on standup comedians and they talk standup stories. On that scenario, Rogan is an expert. 

[Post Oak 20213]

2 hours ago, scottsins said:

And a guy who endorsed Bernie Sanders and said that he would have voted for him or Andrew Yang over Trump. Some of my nutter acquaintances just now getting into Rogan are shocked when I tell them.

It's because he's a 54 year old man who doesn't know who he is at a core level.  He doesn't know what he believes in  He talks like he does but he doesn't. So his kettlebelled brain is able to be easily influenced and to an extent be intellectually bullied.  His insecurities allow him to be manipulated.  

It's happened to millions of Americans and he's maybe the most famous one.

Edited January 30, 2022 by Post Oak

[Nice Guy Eddie 13512]

It doesn’t matter what Rogan does personally. If he wants the vaccine or not, or whether votes for Bernie, Yang or trump. Cool, whatever. These are all personal decisions. The problem with Rogan is when he allows his guests to say something false or misleading and there is no challenge on it.

Rogan has the money to have a more accurate show. Instead he wants to keep the money and maintain a small staff. It’s like when Facebook says they can’t police their site while sitting on billions in cash. You can police the site (or the podcast in rogans situation) but you choose not to.

rogan saying that he sometimes votes democrat doesn’t buy him any points for impartiality.

[RomaVicta 29907]

7 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

morons love to cite people who agree with them. confirmation bias and such. 

I agree with this man and always do. 

[Biff Tannen 45685]

The very fact that Joe Rogan is being violently defended by republicans is such a perfect example of where we are as a society.  JFC.  Look at yourselves.

[Brisketexan 105139]

The very fact that Joe Rogan is being violently defended by republicans is such a perfect example of where we are as a society.  JFC.  Look at yourselves.

What are they going to do if Joe starts wearing Carhartt gear?

Heads exploding….

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

[Longhorn_Fan68 33870]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What are they going to do if Joe starts wearing Carhartt gear?

Heads exploding….

or apologizes and says he's going to change. that will be like a foreign language to them

[Dutchrudder 11139]

[956 Worldwide 34715]

3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

It doesn’t matter what Rogan does personally. If he wants the vaccine or not, or whether votes for Bernie, Yang or trump. Cool, whatever. These are all personal decisions. The problem with Rogan is when he allows his guests to say something false or misleading and there is no challenge on it.

Rogan has the money to have a more accurate show. Instead he wants to keep the money and maintain a small staff. It’s like when Facebook says they can’t police their site while sitting on billions in cash. You can police the site (or the podcast in rogans situation) but you choose not to.

rogan saying that he sometimes votes democrat doesn’t buy him any points for impartiality.

I am a violent opponent of having venues where credible people are challenged by non-credible people. It gives the illusion that a discussion exists where one doesn’t, and actual experts on vaccines shouldn’t spend their time debating whomever is on Rogan spouting bullshit.  The biggest problem with Rogan is that he’s talking about fucking medicine and neither he or anyone in the audience has any frame of reference to determine what is credible. It’s like me sitting in on a debate in whatever the latest controversy in particle physics is, or ancient linguists arguing over the correct translation of a Sumerian cuneiform tablet. 

A key component of critical thinking skills is being able to realize when you can’t meaningfully follow a debate.  This is something that genuine experts come to have an understanding of. 

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

[Gatorubet 30238]

I am a violent opponent of having venues where credible people are challenged by non-credible people. It gives the illusion that a discussion exists where one doesn’t, and actual experts on vaccines shouldn’t spend their time debating whomever is on Rogan spouting bullshit.  The biggest problem with Rogan is that he’s talking about fucking medicine and neither he or anyone in the audience has any frame of reference to determine what is credible. It’s like me sitting in on a debate in whatever the latest controversy in particle physics is, or ancient linguists arguing over the correct translation of a Sumerian cuneiform tablet. 
A key component of critical thinking skills is being able to realize when you can’t meaningfully follow a debate.  This is something that genuine experts come to have an understanding of. 

The Libtard’s cuneiform translation is fake. And Sleepy Joe and his gang only have particles of physics. I use the whole beautiful physics, not just particles. More physics than anyone has used before, really. Many people are saying that.

[Biff Tannen 45685]

I find it strange that people are making fun of Neil Young for the Spofity thing.  He's always been forthright with his political convictions and he's making a political statement.  He knew Spotify would side with Rogan.  It seems like a lot of people are missing this.

[hayden_horn 11362]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I find it strange that people are making fun of Neil Young for the Spofity thing.  He's always been forthright with his political convictions and he's making a political statement.  He knew Spotify would side with Rogan.  It seems like a lot of people are missing this.

Quote

Well I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well I heard ol' Neil put her down
Well I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow

neil young has long been vocal, like you say. caused quite a stir in the south back in the day, with southern man, alabama, etc. 

[Anastasis 23469]

13 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I don’t remember him being anti vax he was just all about HCQ and ivermectin before there was a vax. Was also all in on the Steele dossier being gospel. Some of his posts seemed to indicate he is a psychiatrist IIRC 

He was definitely a head shrinker. Ironically he would have probably benefited from some low dose risperdal. Total kook. 

[Dutchrudder 11139]

44 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I find it strange that people are making fun of Neil Young for the Spofity thing.  He's always been forthright with his political convictions and he's making a political statement.  He knew Spotify would side with Rogan.  It seems like a lot of people are missing this.

Nah man, he's just a libtard who self-owned himself!!1!1!1 ahahwhahahwahaha!! 

[Anastasis 23469]

22 hours ago, HenryJames said:

His last post:

God what a quack.  He should have been crowd sourced from this place back during his Russia Russia Russia days, but was given quarter by this board. 

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

[Biff Tannen 45685]

Again. I don’t see how they are misunderstanding this.  It’s in the same vein as let’s go Brandon. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. These are our dumbest people. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33870]

 

[F250 28775]

52 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I find it strange that people are making fun of Neil Young for the Spofity thing.  He's always been forthright with his political convictions and he's making a political statement.  He knew Spotify would side with Rogan.  It seems like a lot of people are missing this.

It is probably because Neil Young and Joni Mitchell haven't been culturally significant in half a century. I am aware of Neil Young taking political stances but even for someone like myself who is not a spring chicken that is historical knowledge I learned and not something I was around to experience. 

I am not criticizing Young and Mitchell just pointing out that it's a setup for the "Ok, Boomer" joke.

 

[CooterBrown 18012]

 

I’d guess those are out of context but being openly racist is a not exactly a negative for the GOP and their supporters.