Thing$ $till not going well for Joe Rogan, I $ee.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

36 minutes ago, safe sex said:

That's why I'll get high when I watch them

[Chooky 13307]

And "weed guy" comedy has a brief shelf life for me. 

[Gil Bang 25944]

1 hour ago, Chooky said:

Stanhope is pretty blatantly left wing. He seemed drawn to the surface aspects of libertarianism that many leftists were drawn toward in the late nineties and early 2000's. Then he got a glimpse of the people running the party and abandoned it pretty fast. He wrote about how idiotic one of their conventions was and it was a hilarious piece.

Tony Hinchecliffe just sucks. It's a pretty dreary era for standup. The guys currently selling out large theaters and small arenas are unwatchable to me. Bert Kreischer might be the worst I've ever seen and he seems to be at the top of the heap right now. Fat guy takes his shirt off. That's pretty much the entire bit. 

Rogan's standup is mainly screaming punchlines, a lot of physical comedy and humping the stool jokes. His comedy blows and he often doesn't even understand when his guests make jokes. He got confrontational with Theo Vonn about whether or not his friend really had a wooden shirt until theo had to inform it was a joke. Watching Joe rogan with an absurdist like Hannibal Burress is impossible. Joe simply doesn't understand.  

Roseanne is probably the biggest name he's had at that club and she sounds like she's seriously over medicated. She's gone. 

The edge lord guys are just boring and self important. 

Marc Maron's last special was the last set that has even remotely moved the needle for me in a long time. It was okay.  The funniest touring comic I've seen in the last three years was Maria Bamford. Really funny and she sells 50 tickets a show at the most. 

 

I saw a Steve Trevino show in La Jolla last year. Reasonably clean, and very, very funny. 

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

I like Nate Bargatze's stuff 

[Pato del Muerto 52489]

4 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

I like Nate Bargatze's stuff 

Super clean show. 
 

tom papa has been going a long time and he’s still funny. 

[safe sex 11709]

39 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

It's pretty ridiculous that I got Stanhope and Benson mixed up,  because I got high with Benson before one of his shows in Boston like a decade ago. Ahhh, old Twitter.  

 

[Born to Run 6569]

I enjoyed his bits when I first got satellite radio and listened to the comedy channels a lot. Now that a couple of decades has past, I wonder if I’d still like his schtick. 

He has interesting guests on, my homeboy sends me links from time to time, and it can be interesting and entertaining. Joe is intellectually curious and engages a wide variety of topics, but he's also a meat head and is self aware that he's the "Fear Factor Guy." As such, he's easily duped by fake news or clearly BS conspiracy shit, and the Guest's jokes fly right the fuck over his head. He is what he is, the problem is he has a huge audience and the bros take him at his word far to often. He's a walking talking "just asking questions" disrupter of serious discourse because of the aforementioned realities.

Eliza Shlesinger is funny as fuck. Saw her in NY, works her ass off.

[bolverk 29663]

6 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

He has interesting guests on, my homeboy sends me links from time to time, and it can be interesting and entertaining. Joe is intellectually curious and engages a wide variety of topics, but he's also a meat head and is self aware that he's the "Fear Factor Guy." As such, he's easily duped by fake news or clearly BS conspiracy shit, and the Guest's jokes fly right the fuck over his head. He is what he is, the problem is he has a huge audience and the bros take him at his word far to often. He's a walking talking "just asking questions" disrupter of serious discourse because of the aforementioned realities.

Eliza Shlesinger is funny as fuck. Saw her in NY, works her ass off.

Doesn't follow.

[Pato del Muerto 52489]

I was talking about Doug Stanhope. 

[Eskimohorn 5633]

[956 Worldwide 34705]

We need to stop saying that being a dumbfuck on a wide variety of issues is “intellectual curiosity.” 
 

Anyway, Rogan, like Alex Jones and Q-Anon and other idiots, has so much of his world-view informed by movies and bad TV.  That’s on full display here with the “EpStEiN wAs An InTeL Op” idiocy. A dead giveaway for dumbassery in this type of shit is when the promoter just decides that the CIA and Mossad are interchangeable and it doesn’t really matter to the theory. 
 

 

[Neonmoon 38129]

The dumbest people 

[bad_teammate 13195]

The problem, really, is podcasting. It's just too much unscripted time for these guys who are not very bright but uninhibited/ego-driven enough to think the world needs to hear 2+ hours of them daily. There's no time to distill anything or to set things up. All of the timing is reaction-based because it's just chuckleheads talking over each other.

But it pays the bills better than stand-up, or at least fills in the gaps.

Also, the comic as lone, fearless truth-teller shit has been played out for at least three decades at this point. We've got plenty of truth-tellers. So while comedy is fun and should even be insightful, they aren't the heroes they think they are.

[HamsterHookah 112]

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

The problem, really, is podcasting. It's just too much unscripted time for these guys who are not very bright but uninhibited/ego-driven enough to think the world needs to hear 2+ hours of them daily. There's no time to distill anything or to set things up. All of the timing is reaction-based because it's just chuckleheads talking over each other.

But it pays the bills better than stand-up, or at least fills in the gaps.

Also, the comic as lone, fearless truth-teller shit has been played out for at least three decades at this point. We've got plenty of truth-tellers. So while comedy is fun and should even be insightful, they aren't the heroes they think they are.

You just described Dave Chappelle. He's evolved from funny joke man to modern day public intellectual and ambassador for sanity through humorous form. Bill Burr, too.

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2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

The problem, really, is podcasting. It's just too much unscripted time for these guys who are not very bright but uninhibited/ego-driven enough to think the world needs to hear 2+ hours of them daily. There's no time to distill anything or to set things up. All of the timing is reaction-based because it's just chuckleheads talking over each other.

Yep.  25-30 years ago, a lot of their audience was listening to Rush Limbaugh, who had every show loosely scripted out where he'd hit his talking points as he heads into the commercial break.  Now, it's some dudes who watched a YouTube video that Epstein was a CIA agent or that Apollo 11 was a sound stage, and so they have to just ask questions.

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Also, the comic as lone, fearless truth-teller shit has been played out for at least three decades at this point. We've got plenty of truth-tellers. So while comedy is fun and should even be insightful, they aren't the heroes they think they are.

I will fully agree with Bill Burr's take that we have too many people, and that a shitload of them need to just be killed off.

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

Goddamn YouTube videos have broken my FIL’s brain.

[jimmyjazz 45899]

On 4/28/2023 at 2:47 PM, Al_4_ISU said:

He’s different than them, but he’s very comfortable profiting from the whole right wing grift.

How many of us have said the same thing?

[jimmyjazz 45899]

Isn't Stanhope one of Dale Dudley's circle of "friends"?

That's like coming to the plate with 2 strikes for me.

[safe sex 11709]

Lmao at considering virulent transphobe Dave Chapelle, who doubles down on his bigotry every time he is given a chance,  an "ambassador for sanity"

But what else can we expect from this poster? 

[BERT 4358]

I never realized we had so many smart people on this board, or people who view themselves as smart at least. Yet when they post on the football board they prove otherwise. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12457]

16 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Eliza Shlesinger is funny as fuck. Saw her in NY, works her ass off.

She has a rocking body, too.

[Chooky 13307]

 

[YGIFS 19450]

22 hours ago, Born to Run said:

He has interesting guests on, my homeboy sends me links from time to time, and it can be interesting and entertaining. Joe is intellectually curious and engages a wide variety of topics, but he's also a meat head and is self aware that he's the "Fear Factor Guy." As such, he's easily duped by fake news or clearly BS conspiracy shit, and the Guest's jokes fly right the fuck over his head. He is what he is, the problem is he has a huge audience and the bros take him at his word far to often. He's a walking talking "just asking questions" disrupter of serious discourse because of the aforementioned realities.

Eliza Shlesinger is funny as fuck. Saw her in NY, works her ass off.

It's Iliza.  And she's in Austin all the time.  And her act isn't top-notch, but in real life...she is so fucking, naturally hilarious...it's painful  and yes, she is just absolutely gorgeous.  

[Eskimohorn 5633]

I never realized we had so many smart people on this board, or people who view themselves as smart at least. Yet when they post on the football board they prove otherwise. 

I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

I never realized we had so many smart people on this board, or people who view themselves as smart at least. Yet when they post on the football board they prove otherwise. 

Maybe. But now imagine the dumbest poster on the football board. Now realize that person is 100 times smarter than our Longhorn governor.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

On 4/27/2023 at 9:50 PM, Pancho said:

Are these the same guys? I keep hearing this guy complain about not being able to stop his wife from divorcing him. I feel like he a rogain are the same person, are they not?

 

Besides his wife divorcing him, he’s making a point that is a big deal for some conservatives: eliminating no fault divorce. Before the above video was released, he originally went on his show stating how he did nothing wrong and his wife is divorcing him and how that shouldn’t be allowed. There’s a growing movement on the right that you will need to prove infidelity or abuse before be granted a divorce. I also guarantee that a sub set of this group would want to put a level of abuse threshold. Occasional smack to get her in line is reasonable but send her to the hospital, well that could be wrong.

It’s part of make America great again. Greatness, to them, was when rich, white men could pretty much do whatever they want with little fear of consequence. They want that back.

[jimmyjazz 45899]

I'll just put the idea of women tacitly supporting a return to white male patriarchy in the "bucket of things I don't understand".

Prior to the overtuning of Roe V Wade, 70% of women age 18 and older were registered to vote.  For men, that fraction was 68.2%.  After Dobbs, there is some indication that newly registered voters were split some 55/45 women/men, although that disparity does seem to be receding.

Long story short:  more women vote, so why are these issues that are clearly not in their best interest still gaining traction?  It's maddening.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13581]

I forgot what's the topic of this thread

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'll just put the idea of women tacitly supporting a return to white male patriarchy in the "bucket of things I don't understand".

Prior to the overtuning of Roe V Wade, 70% of women age 18 and older were registered to vote.  For men, that fraction was 68.2%.  After Dobbs, there is some indication that newly registered voters were split some 55/45 women/men, although that disparity does seem to be receding.

Long story short:  more women vote, so why are these issues that are clearly not in their best interest still gaining traction?  It's maddening.

Social media and video allow people to find content from politicians or influencers who have a wide variety of opinions. You may agree with one thing but hate another. For example, someone is served up a video where Crowder talks against trans athletes, and that appeals to a wide range of people. They support Crowder in that lens but they may not be served up a video where Crowder says that a woman should not have the right to leave her husband, or at least she can't leave plus expect financial support for the children.

This happens all the time with politicians. Say just enough to get elected but downplay the despicable stuff.

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'll just put the idea of women tacitly supporting a return to white male patriarchy in the "bucket of things I don't understand".

Prior to the overtuning of Roe V Wade, 70% of women age 18 and older were registered to vote.  For men, that fraction was 68.2%.  After Dobbs, there is some indication that newly registered voters were split some 55/45 women/men, although that disparity does seem to be receding.

Long story short:  more women vote, so why are these issues that are clearly not in their best interest still gaining traction?  It's maddening.

Americans are idiots that routinely vote against their actual interests in favor of emotional flashpoint shit.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20395]

14 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Maybe. But now imagine the dumbest poster on the football board. Now realize that person is 100 times smarter than our Longhorn governor.

I'm no fan of Abbott, but there's no way he is 100 times dumber than Futureman.   50-60 times,  tops. 

[Pancho 44757]

Probably need to rename the thread:

 

 

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

On a real surface level way, he’s right.  The idea that it’s ok for black people to use a word in any context and completely unacceptable for white people to use it in any context is illogical and by definition racist.

But I will never understand why conservative white men are so fixated on righting the single “injustice” leveled towards white people.  Can’t we just let black people have this one fucking thing?  There are a million double standards that fuck black people over in this country.  Countless real injustices inflicted on them over close to 500 years.  There’s one thing white people can’t do.  Quit crying about it, fucking snowflakes.

[David Dennison 18854]

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

On a real surface level way, he’s right.  The idea that it’s ok for black people to use a word in any context and completely unacceptable for white people to use it in any context is illogical and by definition racist.

Sounds like something a honky would say.

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Sounds like something a honky would say.

You read the rest of the post?

[David Dennison 18854]

Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

You read the rest of the post?

Of course. Still, the first part of your post sounds like something a honky would say.

[mdmost 43001]

It's so tough being a white male in America. Can't even say the N-word anymore without being "cancelled". 

[4th&Five 41525]

30 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Probably need to rename the thread:

 

 

I’m sure his intent behind wanting to use the word is all positive too. He just wants to drop a bunch of n word’s while praising black people. 

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Of course. Still, the first part of your post sounds like something a honky would say.

I agree.

Thats kind of my point.  In a rigidly logical sense, they might be right, but in the words of The Dude, “you’re not wrong - you’re just an asshole”.  Walsh is definitely an asshole.

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

2 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I’m sure his intent behind wanting to use the word is all positive too. He just wants to drop a bunch of n word’s while praising black people. 

Maybe he just wants to karaoke some NWA?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

14 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Maybe he just wants to karaoke some NWA?

ohhhh man, that brings me back to my quite white friend from Ohio having the stones to get up in front of Rockin' Tomato and belt out his best rendition of "Do Wah Diddy." some people with kids came in later than the advertised time they were allowed and my friend asked them nicely to leave because their kids were about to hear a lot of dirty talk (his go-to was "Baby Got Back") but after mom/karen mouthed off at the suggestion that her kids might need to leave, he walked up to the dj and whispered something to him and he chuckled and nodded. Then it came for his turn at the mic. Hooooly shit, I've never seen anyone so red doing karoake, but it matched karen's tone as she screamed at all of us how we were going to hell as she dragged her kids out the door. the dj, large black dude, just chuckled his ass off and shook his head. pretty sure I was doing the same. good times.

[jimmyjazz 45899]

Poor Matt.  His speech is being limited.  Oh wait, it isn't.  He can say whatever the hell he wants.  He just doesn't like the consequences.

[Pancho 44757]

53 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

On a real surface level way, he’s right.  The idea that it’s ok for black people to use a word in any context and completely unacceptable for white people to use it in any context is illogical and by definition racist.

 

As I taught my students at the college level, there is no word you can call a White person that holds oppression like the word nigger does. And there never will be. 
 

If there was, White peopled could use the n word without repercussion.

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

As I taught my students at the college level, there is no word you can call a White person that holds oppression like the word nigger does. And there never will be. 
 

If there was, White peopled could use the n word without repercussion.

Now you’re going to get a bunch of right wing honkies trying to insist that there’s an equal level of oppression in honky so they can go full Wallen.

[Stilicho 1397]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

As I taught my students at the college level, there is no word you can call a White person that holds oppression like the word nigger does. And there never will be. 
 

If there was, White peopled could use the n word without repercussion.

And it's not new. Patrick Henry was screaming it in his opposition to ratification of the Constitution.

I can't speak for all the white supremacist / MAGA fucks / Christian nationalists out there, but I can speak for the ones I have dealt with for the better part of 40 years. All of them, to a one, bitch about not being able to drop the n bomb. They'll bring up this grievance in the most random and Kafka-esque of times (funerals, in my experience). They are angry, in large part, because they cannot use that word at a whim anymore.

They're willing to fuck their own face and die poor, broken, and beholden to grifters all because of a fucking word. Smooth-brained madness.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Stilicho
inventing new words

[HenryJames 66041]

 

['stache 21802]

16 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I agree.

Thats kind of my point.  In a rigidly logical sense, they might be right, but in the words of The Dude, “you’re not wrong - you’re just an asshole”.  Walsh is definitely an asshole.

I still think this is wrong. There are plenty of contexts in which one group can use a word or phrase and others can’t/shouldn’t. Ever see a group of friends call each other dumb sluts or mother fuckers and everyone laughs? Someone from the outside does it and hands will get thrown. Similar concept but to 11 with centuries of dark evil shit behind it. Definitely agree with the rest, even if it was some logical fallacy (again I disagree) just let it go already. In what not shithead context is it so necessary for a white person to use the word in anything other than an academic sense, and even then it’s rarely necessary. 

Edited May 5, 2023 by 'stache

[Dick Tremayne 103]

On 5/2/2023 at 2:47 PM, HamsterHookah said:

Is this a joke or do you not understand the point of this comic at all??? Jesus Christ....

[Al_4_ISU 12457]

21 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I still think this is wrong. There are plenty of contexts in which one group can use a word or phrase and others can’t/shouldn’t. Ever see a group of friends call each other dumb sluts or mother fuckers and everyone laughs? Someone from the outside does it and hands will get thrown. Similar concept but to 11 with centuries of dark evil shit behind it. Definitely agree with the rest, even if it was some logical fallacy (again I disagree) just let it go already. In what not shithead context is it so necessary for a white person to use the word in anything other than an academic sense, and even then it’s rarely necessary. 

It’s never necessary for white people to use it, which is why the desire to do so is asshole behavior.

Your analogy doesn’t really hold up though, because there’s always SOME context in which people are socially allowed to use those words.  I think to some extent the obsession some right wingers have with not getting to use it is the same thing as a child desperate to do the things their parents don’t let them do. 

[Chooky 13307]

I want to take Matt Walsh to the lower Ninth Ward in New Orleans and have him hurl the N word around so he can fully understand how inconsequential it is. "Let it rip, Matt. It's just a combination of vowels and consonants. I'm sure it'll be fine."