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10 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

The approval of the long range missiles at this time is really odd. Why wait so long, until after the election?  What's it going to accomplish, or is he looking to escalate the war to fuck with Trump? It's such an odd thing to do right now, the time to approve it was nearly 4 years ago, if you wanted Ukraine to win the war. 

It's basically this. They want to put Ukraine in as good a position as Ukraine can be in when Trump takes office, to make it politically harder on Trump to try to force Ukraine to concede.

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So…Zelenskyy offered to go on rogan’s show to set the record straight about the war, and Rogan said no.

also—Rogan is reportedly going to travel to mal to do a show and turnip “might stop by” yet he wasn’t willing to travel to meet with Harris. 

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6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So…Zelenskyy offered to go on rogan’s show to set the record straight about the war, and Rogan said no.

also—Rogan is reportedly going to travel to mal to do a show and turnip “might stop by” yet he wasn’t willing to travel to meet with Harris. 

I am glad you posted this.  Here’s the clip:

 

It’s one to put to bed the notion that Rogan will talk to anyone and is working to present all sides of issues.  The fact is that his show is a vector of information manipulation and that he will NOT open his to discuss viewpoints that run counter to his chosen narratives that mostly support the political populist low-information right. 
 

It’s also time to put to bed the idea that his offer to Kamala was genuine or that future democrats need to work to get on his platform.  He’s there to undermine them, that’s the purpose.  

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28 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Classic pussy who knows he's an idiot that is spouting off nonsense so of course he's terrified to get his ass handed to him point by point. 

It’s not even that, having Zelenskyy on would hinder his ultimate goals. 
 

The new media literacy is to move from a content-driven analysis to an outcome driven analysis.  The baseline question being: do consumers of this media come away with a more or less informed and reality based understating of the topics discussed. 
 

For Rogan, the answer is clearly less informed and reality based. You can clearly file his platform away as a manipulator of information. As such, his platform cannot be reformed or used successfully by anyone hoping to advance a reality-based conversation or solution. 
 

It’s important to note that even clearly slanted media can pass this test.  For instance, though the mid-2000s a regular reader of either The New Republic or National Review would arguably have a better (if politically slanted) grasp of politics and world events than a irregular consumer of mainstream media outlets.  The same cannot be said of Rogan, his listeners are far more likely to simply believe absolute bullshit. 
 

His posture as an unbiased and unafraid open interviewer makes him even more toxic.  Elevating alien theorists and quacks to the same level of actual scientists or doctors doesn’t reveal the idiocy of the former.  Rather, it introduces confusion and a plausible belief that fantasy bullshit and reality are both equally justified beliefs. 
 

Again— he exists to manipulate information and has become an extremely influential and powerful person as a result. The purpose of a system is what it does. 

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