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10 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

The approval of the long range missiles at this time is really odd. Why wait so long, until after the election?  What's it going to accomplish, or is he looking to escalate the war to fuck with Trump? It's such an odd thing to do right now, the time to approve it was nearly 4 years ago, if you wanted Ukraine to win the war. 

It's basically this. They want to put Ukraine in as good a position as Ukraine can be in when Trump takes office, to make it politically harder on Trump to try to force Ukraine to concede.

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So…Zelenskyy offered to go on rogan’s show to set the record straight about the war, and Rogan said no.

also—Rogan is reportedly going to travel to mal to do a show and turnip “might stop by” yet he wasn’t willing to travel to meet with Harris. 

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Classic pussy who knows he's an idiot that is spouting off nonsense so of course he's terrified to get his ass handed to him point by point. 

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Ultimately there is no choice, kissing the ring was the right thing to do if you were behind, fucking unbelievable to me that they projected so much confidence knowing the real numbers.

Look I make hold no illusions, and I thought it was best to stay away, but that was when I was blind to the internal survey disaster. you stay away if you are ahead not if you are behind. Democrats have 0 inroads to the meathead population, not after supporting giga disasters like being on the idelogical side of Amber Heard (something like 95% of the population though she was guilty but the media still covered for her).

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21 hours ago, C-Man said:

Stupid ass Rogan said the reason he endorsed Trump at the last minute due to concerns about Tim Walz’s honesty. Yes, that’s what that stupid meat head said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-rogan-says-he-endorsed-trump-due-to-concerns-about-tim-walzs-honesty/

Well my entire family has been calling every Democrat under the sun a liar while also swearing that Trump doesn't lie at all. You can't even reason with people who are that disconnected from reality.

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29 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Endorsing Trump because you have concerns about Walz’s honesty is like endorsing becoming a heroin addict because you freaked out on an edible.

Its a lie a filthy fucking lie, he is a guilt ridden mf that wants to use any excuse to say whatever the fuck to sleep better at night.

At the end of the day we can't overthink shit ever again, Waltz was the most popular of the 4 he was a great pick the fundamentals were sound the failure came in limiting his rural populism, instead to asking him to be a "male role model" I really can't overstate how fucked we are that we allow the progressive media to try to define masculinity.

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2 hours ago, Underdog said:

He was for Trump all the way, full of shit as always. 

Rogan is dumb, but he knows who butters his bread.

He and His audience want a circus show, the conspiracy, and a departure from reality.

Trump brings all that.

How the fuck are you going to get high or laugh interviewing Kamala Harris or the president of Ukraine? Fucking bummer, man.

Nerds and the real world are boring and give folks the sads. 
 

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6 hours ago, Underdog said:

He was for Trump all the way, full of shit as always. 

I don't think so, not all the way, he could have endorsed the clown early and often instead he half assed an endorsement at the 11th hour, he could have not corrected Trump 4 times about Harris ducking his interview.

The problem is he was a coward that refused to do what is right, instead cowtowed to his audience and the usual naive idea that you can influence Donald Trump in a quid pro quo, you can't.

I have come to the conclusion that there was absolutely nothing that could have been done in 2024 or even 2023 to prevent the Trump disaster, the endorsements were meaningless, the debates were meaningless (How many times did I say this? Kamala won hers by 66%... meaningless), the donations were meaningless, our fate was sealed in 2022 at the latest with the obsession to fall into the inflation Willy E Coyote trap.

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Friend: Texts me a Rogan clip and some accompanying links.

Me: I saw that too.  It’s intriguing but inaccurate.  I dId My OwN rEsEaRcH and here is what I found: (sends link and screenshots.).

(The most recent regards this narrative that Polio was almost burnt through when the vax came and the vax was/is of little value.

Friend: “Your facts are fake.”

Me: “This is so dumb I don’t know what to say.  Gonna just disengage.”

Friend: “See.  I’m right.”

Gonna be four full years of deciding all the time to engage and maybe change some minds, or just tune out and wait for the FAFO.  Exhausting.

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On 12/18/2024 at 9:36 AM, Parliament said:

Friend: Texts me a Rogan clip and some accompanying links.

Me: I saw that too.  It’s intriguing but inaccurate.  I dId My OwN rEsEaRcH and here is what I found: (sends link and screenshots.).

(The most recent regards this narrative that Polio was almost burnt through when the vax came and the vax was/is of little value.

Friend: “Your facts are fake.”

Me: “This is so dumb I don’t know what to say.  Gonna just disengage.”

Friend: “See.  I’m right.”

Gonna be four full years of deciding all the time to engage and maybe change some minds, or just tune out and wait for the FAFO.  Exhausting.

It’s over, at least for 2.5 years. Disengage, wait, hope it doesn’t destroy all of us, maybe reengage next cycle. The cake is fucking cooked and it’s burnt to hell and they think they want it that way. Nothing you can do. I say this belonging to a class of people that is the most at risk. Hope our system of federalism is allowed to further Balkanize which sounds awful but the hostility is there the only question is whether blue regions will be allowed to stay blue. If so, that’s the fall back, retreat position for the next 2-3 generations. I’m telling you it’s over - even if Dems win next cycle the profile of our citizenry is fucked. The complete bankruptcy of education means it’s going to be a long, long fucking haul back to a functioning democracy. 

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On 12/18/2024 at 9:36 AM, Parliament said:

Friend: Texts me a Rogan clip and some accompanying links.

Me: I saw that too.  It’s intriguing but inaccurate.  I dId My OwN rEsEaRcH and here is what I found: (sends link and screenshots.).

(The most recent regards this narrative that Polio was almost burnt through when the vax came and the vax was/is of little value.

Friend: “Your facts are fake.”

Me: “This is so dumb I don’t know what to say.  Gonna just disengage.”

Friend: “See.  I’m right.”

Gonna be four full years of deciding all the time to engage and maybe change some minds, or just tune out and wait for the FAFO.  Exhausting.

That sounds like most discourse during the trump era, tbh

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11 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

The only way something is getting rescheduled is if a major corporation stands to make a bundle on selling the newly legal substance with some sort of government maintained monopoly 

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45 minutes ago, Captainant said:

The only way something is getting rescheduled is if a major corporation stands to make a bundle on selling the newly legal substance with some sort of government maintained monopoly 

And it’s one of a myriad of reasons why the Trump phenomenon occurred. The system is rigged against the working class has pockets of concentration in many places, but the anti-FDA sentiment is one of them.  Good people don’t support Trump despite his shittiness for no reason, but because of the vacuum created by Dems feigning interest in the working class and not doing a damn thing about it. There is so much left to be desired in our healthcare system and the two primary impediments to improvement are massive profits with the insurance companies and massive profits with big pharma and both have a stranglehold on our system and ordinary people know it and despise it.

the same calculus occurs in nearly every aspect of our society with concentrations in various areas none greater than healthcare, economic policy, foreign trade relations  and I’m sure a few others. 

I’m not saying Trump is a better candidate for the working class but I am saying he has communicated to the working class more effectively than any candidate since Obama, maybe even since Reagan. 

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m not saying Trump is a better candidate for the working class but I am saying he has communicated to the working class more effectively than any candidate since Obama, maybe even since Reagan. 

I don't disagree but I do think you're leaving out the negative press effort to make issues appear bigger, or that there are more issues than there really are. If you get people pissed off enough they'll just go with whatever keeps the rage going.

Here's hoping they realize their faces are getting eaten by the leopards

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Just now, Captainant said:

I don't disagree but I do think you're leaving out the negative press effort to make issues appear bigger, or that there are more issues than there really are. If you get people pissed off enough they'll just go with whatever keeps the rage going.

Here's hoping they realize their faces are getting eaten by the leopards

Well there’s the creation of enemies to blame and other factors for his rise but if the Dems actually spent the last 20 years improving the working class experience Trump may not have had the same opportunity. 

oligarchs gonna oligarch and frankly they own both sides with limited exceptions. Ironically, Biden is who the working class needs - along with Bernie - but failure in communications and a little too late doomed him. 

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9 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

NSIAP, I watched this Tim Heidecker episode last night and it's fucking amazing. It's a satire of a Joe Rogan podcast, where everyone nonsensically spews bullshit for over an hour. It's one of the most brilliant bits I've ever seen and they never break character. His Rogan "impersonation" is on point, and the two other guys are perfect representations of his guests. I love it so much. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

NSIAP, I watched this Tim Heidecker episode last night and it's fucking amazing. It's a satire of a Joe Rogan podcast, where everyone nonsensically spews bullshit for over an hour. It's one of the most brilliant bits I've ever seen and they never break character. His Rogan "impersonation" is on point, and the two other guys are perfect representations of his guests. I love it so much. 

 

I am dying listening to this. Keyboard meet coffee laughter.

"we broke out of the food chain."

"But are we..?"

"we are in it."

The back and forth for bro-agreements is perfect.

 

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Sometimes, the algorithm works well. This brilliant YouTube account "The Elephant Graveyard" does takedowns of Rogan and his merry band of dipshit comedians in Austin. 

It's strange and awesome and incredibly funny. Art. 

 

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4 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Sometimes, the algorithm works well. This brilliant YouTube account "The Elephant Graveyard" does takedowns of Rogan and his merry band of dipshit comedians in Austin. 

It's strange and awesome and incredibly funny. Art. 

 

Lol I just watched this. It's so fucking good. 

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I feel bad because I started watching his show way back at the beginning because I was a huge fan of Newsradio. And I defended and supported this dude for years.

But in 2021 he lost the plot entirely. Covid I guess. Amazing how a thing that Trump managed so badly ended up benefiting Trump a ton.

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5 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I feel bad because I started watching his show way back at the beginning because I was a huge fan of Newsradio. And I defended and supported this dude for years.

But in 2021 he lost the plot entirely. Covid I guess. Amazing how a thing that Trump managed so badly ended up benefiting Trump a ton.

I was in the same boat, and he lost me during Covid as well.  

He absolutely changed his outlook, message, and completely bit into the MAGA verse.  Who he was prior to that was fine for the most part, and I don't really feel bad about listening to his show or vouching for him back then, but man he lost the trail as hard as anyone ever has.

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How closely does his change coincide with his big contract?

It's pretty close.  I was losing interest shortly before he moved to Spotify, but I don't think I've listened to a single pod since he made that switch.

So it was coming ahead of that, but it's gotten much worse in the aftermath.

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5 minutes ago, G650 said:

Will never not be fascinating to me that his podcast is what turned people off Joe Rogan, as opposed to his entire way of being his whole fucking life.

I am very tolerant of other people's foibles and Joe seemed like a guy who was interested in learning and getting better.

Plus, as I said, I loved Newsradio and early on he had guys like Dave Foley on to talk about the show.

Also I am a sports fan, I love tons of very imperfect people.

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9 minutes ago, G650 said:

Will never not be fascinating to me that his podcast is what turned people off Joe Rogan, as opposed to his entire way of being his whole fucking life.

It was really most of what I knew of him.  I liked Newsradio, didn't really follow his stand up, but I enjoyed the show back when he was bringing in legitimately interesting people and I felt like I was being exposed to some worthwhile things.

And to that end, I was.  I wouldn't know SC Gwynne if not for JRE.  I've absolutely learned and been entertained from his (Gwynne's) work.

The podcast turned me off because it became obvious that either he was really, really stupid or that he had absolutely no moral compass and was just willing to host anyone for the right money.  He no longer felt like a flawed, but earnest person who was legitimately interested in expanding themselves.  He was suckled to the teat of the great right wing grift.

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Just now, G650 said:

It's the same as Trump, a guy I've despised since about 1988 when I was still in school. Their issues have been on full display their entire lives, I truly just have no idea what people are looking at when they see some of these people, it's not anything subtle but blatantly obvious personality traits. It's like the leopards thread with every regretful voter, "oh who could have known?!" Um, like every non moron? The guy making people eat roaches on Fear Factor and tells lame bro jokes in his standup is a shithead, doesn't take a MENSA level psychologist to figure that one out.

Well I didn't see it. He seemed like he was progressive in a lot of ways. Supported Bernie and spoke positively about both homosexuals and transgendered people and was against racism. That is not to say he also said stupid things but I thought his heart was in the right place.

But you were right and I was wrong. My face was eaten by this particular leopard.

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2 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

The podcast turned me off because it became obvious that either he was really, really stupid or that he had absolutely no moral compass and was just willing to host anyone for the right money. 

Yeah, I mean I get that's how it went down, but I truly don't get how you didn't cotton on earlier, it was just so apparent. And I'm not bagging on you or anything, I'm truly mystified with what people look at with other humans, celebrities in particular. I just don't get how these people slide by large segments of the population.

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1 minute ago, G650 said:

 

He was literally the exact same guy.

 

It's the same as Trump, a guy I've despised since about 1988 when I was still in school. Their issues have been on full display their entire lives, I truly just have no idea what people are looking at when they see some of these people, it's not anything subtle but blatantly obvious personality traits. It's like the leopards thread with every regretful voter, "oh who could have known?!" Um, like every non moron? The guy making people eat roaches on Fear Factor and tells lame bro jokes in his standup is a shithead, doesn't take a MENSA level psychologist to figure that one out.

Rogan used to be funny, now he's just kind of a miserable piece of shit. That's what the YouTube video highlights. 

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Just now, Valmy77 said:

Well I didn't see it. He seemed like he was progressive in a lot of ways. Supported Bernie and spoke positively about both homosexuals and transgendered people and was against racism. That is not to say he also said stupid things but I thought his heart was in the right place.

But you were right and I was wrong. My face was eaten by this particular leopard.

As I said to @Al_4_ISU, I'm truly not hating on you or anything. I'm just stumped and don't get it, which is probably as much an indictment of my blind spot as anyone.

 

Another guy I've hated on for decades, Elon Musk. Was so obvious.

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Rogan used to be funny

no man GIF

 

 

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Just now, G650 said:

As I said to @Al_4_ISU, I'm truly not hating on you or anything. I'm just stumped and don't get it, which is probably as much an indictment of my blind spot as anyone.

 

Another guy I've hated on for decades, Elon Musk. Was so obvious.

no man GIF

 

 

I saw him live in detroit in 2019. He was funny. 

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Trump, Musk, and Rogan. 

The three-headed monster of deeply insecure dipshits masquerading as Alphas who have poisoned the American psyche and ripped us apart. Embarrassing. 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Trump, Musk, and Rogan. 

The three-headed monster of deeply insecure dipshits that has poisoned the American psyche and ripped us apart. Embarrassing. 

Yep.

I would say we need some guys like this, clearly that is who America loves. But I doubt they could be reliable friends.

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7 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Trump, Musk, and Rogan. 

The three-headed monster of deeply insecure dipshits masquerading as Alphas who have poisoned the American psyche and ripped us apart. Embarrassing. 

 

 

 

 

And 2 out of those 3 call Austin home.

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