Thing$ $till not going well for Joe Rogan, I $ee.

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

6 minutes ago, YChang said:

And what's the behavior/rationale of people coming into ER sick from taking Ivermectin? Cause the messaging they're receiving doesn't seem like they're using it to address parasites as it's been prescribed in the past. 

maybe calling a human drug prescribed by a doctor “horse paste” had some poor consequences 

Or are you referring to the fake article now retracted by Rolling Stone?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by ChickenSandwich

[YChang 3430]

1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:

maybe calling a human drug prescribed by a doctor “horse paste” had some poor consequences 

Or are you referring to the fake article now retracted by Rolling Stone?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/

 

Sure... but why do you call it a fake article? Rollingstone provided an update. There's misinformation and then there's... disinformation. There's a big difference. 

[HenryJames 65884]

7 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

maybe calling a human drug prescribed by a doctor “horse paste” had some poor consequences 

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

1 minute ago, HenryJames said:

He has a Tractor Supply frequent buyer card. I smell a new endorsement!

Edited September 7, 2021 by ChickenSandwich

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

13 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

maybe calling a human drug prescribed by a doctor “horse paste” had some poor consequences 

Or are you referring to the fake article now retracted by Rolling Stone?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/

 

The article hasn't been retracted. It's still right where it always was.


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/

Edited September 7, 2021 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

7 minutes ago, YChang said:

Sure... but why do you call it a fake article? Rollingstone provided an update. There's misinformation and then there's... disinformation. There's a big difference. 

What information in the article was factually correct?  The entire focus of the article was based on a lie. 
 

What is more dangerous?  Saying Joe took a medication prescribed by his doctor that is unapproved for use against Covid, or Joe took horse paste from Tractor Supply.
 

Which do you think has the more potential for harm?

[MoJames 8241]

On 9/2/2021 at 10:00 AM, Brisketexan said:

I HATE to throw them a bone.....but it's not COMPLETELY without basis.  In short, there was a "study" that showed that ivermectin, in vitro (that is, in a petri dish) inhibited viral growth.  Of course, there are numerous substances that would have the same effect: bleach, gasoline, alcohol, etc.  The question that follows is "is there a dose that could be safely given in vivo (that is, to an actual human) that would also inhibit viral growth?  We already know the answer on bleach, gasoline, etc. -- nope.  But on ivermectin, there is at least a "maybe" out there.

Of course, there are actual studies looking at just that question.  We'll see what they say.  I'd love it if they said "yeah, a decent dose, given early in an infection, can keep an additional 10% of people out of the hospital."  And I don't see anything WRONG with a doc trying a round of it on patients, right now -- thrown the kitchen sink, safely, at this.  The problem isn't ivermectin.  The problem is ivermectin being treated as a magic bullet, miracle cure, INSTEAD of and to the purposeful exclusion of vaccinations.

Granted study away. The flaw in this argument is there is a vaccine that works so fucking well these studies aren't really needed. 

Edited September 7, 2021 by MoJames

[YChang 3430]

30 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

What information in the article was factually correct?  The entire focus of the article was based on a lie. 
What is more dangerous?  Saying Joe took a medication prescribed by his doctor that is unapproved for use against Covid, or Joe took horse paste from Tractor Supply.
Which do you think has the more potential for harm?

Of course the 2nd example you provided is more dangerous. However, at the same time... personally, good! I hope that turns people off from wanting to use an unproven drug. 😄

Back to the article there was inaccurate reporting of the quoted doctor's experience—hence the very important update to correct the misinformation. The rest of the article to me just describes why taking non-human dosage portions poses a problem and how it's an unproven treatment. Once you move past the doctor's claim about ER being backed up, I didn't see some devious intent to purposely mislead in the rest of the article.

 

[Neonmoon 38127]

1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Curious. Do you believe he took horse meds or the human version the CDC has been recommending for “Immigrant, Refugee, and migrant health”

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html

Summary of Recommendations

This guidance is intended for the International Organization for Migration (IOM) physicians and other panel physicians who administer overseas predeparture presumptive treatment for intestinal parasites, but may also be referenced by U.S. medical providers caring for refugees who will be receiving presumptive treatment after they arrive in the United States.

While these recommendations have been implemented in many overseas sites, logistical and procurement issues still limit their full implementation in some. All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees should receive presumptive therapy with:

• All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees should receive presumptive therapy with:
  • Albendazole, single dose of 400 mg (200 mg for children 12-23 months)
    AND
  • Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days before departure to the United States. 

Why would Joe Rogan take a drug for intestinal parasites? 

[mulletpelini 5209]

15 minutes ago, YChang said:

Of course the 2nd example you provided is more dangerous. However, at the same time... personally, good! I hope that turns people off from wanting to use an unproven drug. 😄

Back to the article there was inaccurate reporting of the quoted doctor's experience—hence the very important update to correct the misinformation. The rest of the article to me just describes why taking non-human dosage portions poses a problem and how it's an unproven treatment. Once you move past the doctor's claim about ER being backed up, I didn't see some devious intent to purposely mislead in the rest of the article.

 

You mean like the people in Oklahoma wearing winter coats at the beginning of September type of misleading?

Spoiler

 

If it smells like bullshit yada yada yada

[atomheartbevo 89395]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52336]

1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

maybe calling a human drug prescribed by a doctor “horse paste” had some poor consequences 

Or are you referring to the fake article now retracted by Rolling Stone?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/

 

If people want to waste their money obtaining a prescription from a doctor for a proven safe medication at a proven safe dose, like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, they can knock themselves out.  Won’t hurt ‘em.  Might even help a little if there’s truth to the efficacy claims. 
but let’s not pretend that there’s not a statistically significant portion of people choosing to buy the ivermectin packaged for horses, dosing themselves either by the per pound guideline meant for horses, or by whatever dosing guideline they find on social media or make up on their own. 
 

I haven’t pulled up a list of ingredients in that stuff, the oral paste or the injectible, but would it be surprising to find some excipients and/or animal grade products in there to aid in consumption that might not play well when ingested by humans at the amounts present?

[workswithseed 2033]

30 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

[Bookman 4610]

Remind me again why anyone cares about this guy.

[Neonmoon 38127]

1 hour ago, Bookman said:

Remind me again why anyone cares about this guy.

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 

And there’s a lot of them 

[Brisketexan 104537]

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 
And there’s a lot of them 

I mean…:I like three of those things. I PREFER natural breasts, but I don’t dislike the plastic ones.

[cactusflinthead 27594]

I don't mind big fakers if I didn't have to pay for them.

And you left out the mushrooms and DMT

 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

23 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 

And there’s a lot of them 

This really nails it. There’s a lot of different types that listen to him, but the Venn diagram of these traits involves a lot of overlaps. My BIL is the  cross fit, meat hunter guy and my other buddy is the weed smoking, conspiracy theory guy who is always just asking questions. 
 

They both kinda suck. 

[workswithseed 2033]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This really nails it. There’s a lot of different types that listen to him, but the Venn diagram of these traits involves a lot of overlaps. My BIL is the  cross fit, meat hunter guy and my other buddy is the weed smoking, conspiracy theory guy who is always just asking questions. 
 

They both kinda suck. 

Haha, meat hunting instead of just saying hunting.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

Haha, meat hunting instead of just saying hunting.

I take it as they hunt for meat and not for sport. They let you know about it. Trust me. 

[Born to Run 6558]

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 
And there’s a lot of them 

Shit what I'd I'm down with like 3 of those and can get down with fake tits even and don't judge even I do not prefer them?

[Biff Tannen 45491]

8 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

53 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 
And there’s a lot of them 

Shit what I'd I'm down with like 3 of those and can get down with fake tits even and don't judge even I do not prefer them?

Drinking on a Tuesday I see. 

[workswithseed 2033]

12 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

57 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 
And there’s a lot of them 

Shit what I'd I'm down with like 3 of those and can get down with fake tits even and don't judge even I do not prefer them?

[F250 28674]

35 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Haha, meat hunting instead of just saying hunting.

There is a huge difference. A hunter will just talk about hunting and shoot the shit. A meat hunter will explain to you why they must hunt for meat. It's not really different than the vegan that must tell you why they are a vegan.

 

[F250 28674]

39 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I take it as they hunt for meat and not for sport. They let you know about it. Trust me. 

Yes. They will go on and on about living like our Paleolithic ancestors.

 

[workswithseed 2033]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

There is a huge difference. A hunter will just talk about hunting and shoot the shit. A meat hunter will explain to you why they must hunt for meat. It's not really different than the vegan that must tell you why they are a vegan.

 

I've heard of trophy hunter, but never just a straight up meat hunter.

[Pato del Muerto 52336]

3 minutes ago, F250 said:

There is a huge difference. A hunter will just talk about hunting and shoot the shit. A meat hunter will explain to you why they must hunt for meat. It's not really different than the vegan that must tell you why they are a vegan.

 

Let’s not pretend that hunters don’t pose for pictures with the animals they kill and plaster them all over social media. 

[F250 28674]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Let’s not pretend that hunters don’t pose for pictures with the animals they kill and plaster them all over social media. 

It's a totally different category.

The people being referenced are the dorks that carry a loaded duffle bag over their shoulder while going for a walk to mimic the movement’s of a hunter gatherer lifestyle. Essentially it is an alternative lifestyle that they are living and they preach about it.

The average hunter doesn't give a fuck about talking about the hunting lifestyle. The conversations are usually centered around beer, boobs and sports.

 

 

[DonkeyCigars 144]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 

And there’s a lot of them 

I've been in SF/Bay Area for work recently and ran into a new flavor and topic that really should have it's own thread, with the zaniness: The Bio-hacker Bro.

[SizzleChest 8275]

3 hours ago, Bookman said:

Remind me again why anyone cares about this guy.

Because he's fun to point and laugh at.  It's that simple.  And he eats it up because he gets attention and clicks.  

I don't give a fuck if he sucked horse paste out of Seattle Slew's chili ring or was prescribed the version for humans off-label by his doctor.  I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about all of it, tbh.

Rogan is a 'give me all your clicks' attention whore.  If people want his influence to wane, they should stop posting about him on Twatter and Fuckbook.  He's morphng into a tamer version of Charlie Sheen, but at least that guy was entertaining for five minutes because of his wacky behavior and all the hoo-ores.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

He is the cult leader to the “do your own research, bro” crowd of idiots. The cross-fit, meat hunter, weed smoking, whiskey drinking, bullet coffee, keto diet, conspiracy believing, macho man, bro code, barstool sports reading, plastic tits, American flag waving, big tires douche crew 

And there’s a lot of them 

Wait. You got a problem with whiskey and fake tits? Let’s fight bro!

[Neonmoon 38127]

There’s nothing wrong with most of those things. It’s the sum of all of them. It’s just a snapshot. It’s just another iteration of machismo intelligence. They’re just asking questions, and ignoring the answers that are widely available. They are people who use the word “beta”.  They romanticize hunting and living off the land yet use a deer feeder to hunt. It’s all cosplay.

[BurdineBandit 810]

3 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

There’s nothing wrong with most of those things. It’s the sum of all of them. It’s just a snapshot. It’s just another iteration of machismo intelligence. 

Nothing wrong with most indeed, but it breeds a special kind of man that took up this Joe Rogan bit in their 20s to make up for a lack of any otherwise discernible personality traits. Now they're in their late 20s-mid 30s pretending to live the life Joe Rogan lives because it makes them feel cool and more importantly makes them believe they are smart. They should've been way beyond that developmental stage, but they couldn't help themselves, they didn't get the cool or smart before this.

[atomheartbevo 89395]

13 hours ago, Bookman said:

Remind me again why anyone cares about this guy.

Sure he can interview some interesting people, but Rogan was an "Apollo moon landings were faked" motherfucker for a while, and then tried to pretend he was "just asking questions"

Stupid motherfuckers who think the moon landing was faked really piss me off, because they have no understanding of the Cold War and the fact that A) the Soviets would have known that we faked it B) if we faked it, the Soviets would have blasted that shit all over the world.

[pyrohornIII 4805]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Sure he can interview some interesting people, but Rogan was an "Apollo moon landings were faked" motherfucker for a while, and then tried to pretend he was "just asking questions"

Stupid motherfuckers who think the moon landing was faked really piss me off, because they have no understanding of the Cold War and the fact that A) the Soviets would have known that we faked it B) if we faked it, the Soviets would have blasted that shit all over the world.

This shit right here.  I could be mistaken, but I would think there would have been telescopes all over the place aimed at the moon during that period, and if they truly weren't there, someone would have pointed it out.  

But logic no longer counts.  Give them a compass and point them west and tell them to keep walking until they get to the edge of the earth.  

[F250 28674]

20 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

Nothing wrong with most indeed, but it breeds a special kind of man that took up this Joe Rogan bit in their 20s to make up for a lack of any otherwise discernible personality traits. Now they're in their late 20s-mid 30s pretending to live the life Joe Rogan lives because it makes them feel cool and more importantly makes them believe they are smart. They should've been way beyond that developmental stage, but they couldn't help themselves, they didn't get the cool or smart before this.

These are the same people that treat the Fight Club novel as a guide to life.

[workswithseed 2033]

Looks like he's thinking of sueing CNN.

https://www.westernjournal.com/joe-rogan-threatens-sue-cnn-attacking-ivermectin-making-s/

Podcast host Joe Rogan said Tuesday that CNN might deserve a slap upside the pocketbook from a lawsuit in light of its coverage of his bout with COVID-19.

[Foosters 17725]

4 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Looks like he's thinking of sueing CNN.

https://www.westernjournal.com/joe-rogan-threatens-sue-cnn-attacking-ivermectin-making-s/

Podcast host Joe Rogan said Tuesday that CNN might deserve a slap upside the pocketbook from a lawsuit in light of its coverage of his bout with COVID-19.

Welp, add defamation to the list of things Rogan doesn't understand.

[jimmyjazz 45538]

3 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

This shit right here.  I could be mistaken, but I would think there would have been telescopes all over the place aimed at the moon during that period, and if they truly weren't there, someone would have pointed it out.  

Duh.  We landed on the other side.

#fake_earthrise

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

@ChickenSandwich decrying the accuracy of the information he digests is chefsfuckingkiss.gif shit.

what a simulation we are in.

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

 

[Gap03 3264]

4 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

On 9/7/2021 at 10:52 PM, F250 said:

The average hunter doesn't give a fuck about talking about the hunting lifestyle. The conversations are usually centered around beer, boobs and sports.

Can confirm.

Also, "LOOK AT ME I AM A HUNTER!" gear is expensive and I've got bourbon to buy.

Edited September 9, 2021 by bad_teammate

[DDD Dad 14243]

On 9/7/2021 at 10:03 PM, Biff Tannen said:

They let you know about it. Trust me. 

Just like CrossFit.  And Keto.

[WinningIsHard 4016]

18 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

The people taking horse paste won't be able to have kids, God must exist. 

[DonkeyCigars 144]

On 9/8/2021 at 8:54 AM, atomheartbevo said:

Sure he can interview some interesting people, but Rogan was an "Apollo moon landings were faked" motherfucker for a while, and then tried to pretend he was "just asking questions"

Stupid motherfuckers who think the moon landing was faked really piss me off, because they have no understanding of the Cold War and the fact that A) the Soviets would have known that we faked it B) if we faked it, the Soviets would have blasted that shit all over the world.

A scary thing to consider: if the moon landing happened today, Russia could spin up a disinformation PR campaign via our online interconnectedness and insanity, and absolutely convince a not insignificant population that the moon landing was a fake conspiracy and it never happened. Or that the astronauts were infected with a Moon virus to turn them into whatever creature Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton really are under their humanoid skin suits.

The Aristocrats! Internet!

Edited September 9, 2021 by DonkeyCigars

[wildcat09 29213]

It will be extremely funny if Joe Rogan ends up infertile and impotent because he wanted to make money pushing anti-vaxx bullshit. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33831]

8 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

The people taking horse paste won't be able to have kids, God must exist. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33831]

24 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13545]

2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

When you Replacement Theory yourself.