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tchookem · October 27

Harris is not in support of anything, she is told what to do every step of the way. She doesnt do interviews and she is owned. But I get your point. The military industrial complex loves forces Eastern nations to go to the 5.56.

And I bet you think Trump arrived at Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Coney Barrett because he's so knowledgeable about Constitutional Law?

God, I wish I didn't care as much as I do. I wish I could just put on the blinders and choose to be a dipshit like you. But the fact is if I don't care, then people like you are the ones making decisions for me and my son, and my nieces.

Over and over again, Trump supporters show that they are not only incapable of making informed decisions, but they are totally willing to make decisions out of cruelty. There's no way in Hell that I'm letting you idiots control my country.

DDD Dad · October 27

14 hours ago, HellesBier said:

Um becuase what do you think corporations want. There are about 10 of them that own everything and even fewer people that owns those. Facism, communism, elitism, corporatism. If you get far enough around the same circular it all results in the same thing. She is owned by them.

Okay now do who owns Trump.

I’ll start the list for you:

Timothy Mellon ($150MM)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/17/timothy-mellon-donor-trump-rfk/

Musk ($130 MM and counting)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/24/elon-musk-donates-another-436-million-to-pro-trump-america-pac/

Putin

Edited October 27 by DDD Dad

immamac · October 27

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

Kermit · October 27

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

Do you mean I should walk a mile in his hood?

immamac · October 27

No I mean it's important that he shows how disconnected from reality he is. There hasn't been a single rational post in support of voting for Donald Trump.

SydneyCarton · October 27

7 minutes ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

I was polite. But define effective. He literally believes Donald trump hasn’t taken a position On Ukraine, and he can’t answer direct questions and he doesn’t seem to understand communism versus capitalism. On top of the racism stuff.

what are we supposed to do with that?

Edited October 27 by SydneyCarton

Brian Fantana · October 27

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

I was polite.

Who cares? Why should this even be a metric. The dude is a Nazi.

aggie08 · October 27

10 minutes ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

C'mon dude. You know damn well they have no interest in a conversation. They've avoided any and all questions, requests to expound upon their positions, and attempts to engage in a good faith discussion in favor of thread jumping and shitting. The "aggression" didn't start in earnest until everyone got fed up with that shit.

Edited October 27 by aggie08

mchookem · October 27

oh, i think we all understand exactly what's going on with people like stros and helles...

RDCanecutter · October 27

On Anglo-Saxons, I'd like to point out that we are Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and a few Frisians, each distinct peoples. I have no idea what this woke gobbligook "Anglo-Saxon" is supposed to mean. Sounds racially impure.

Nivek · October 27

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

What are the odds he fell for that Established Titles scam and thinks he's nobility now?

Was it really a scam? I thought it was well established that you would own in name only smidgen of land in name only, with no decision making ability, and then you could apply to have your first name legally changed to Lord and they sent you a bunch of colorful images. Someone actually thought they were getting land and a legal title for $100 give or take? What fucking poor would think that is real?

RomaVicta · October 27

A-Tex Devil · October 27

The only reasons to vote for Trump are partially laid out by HellesBier. Some combo (not necessarily all depending on the voter) of that voter being racist/greedy/wealthy/selfish/low information/single issue abortion voter.

I hear the “you can’t get anywhere persuasively insulting the other side”. And, yes, with a normal candidate, that’s true. But with Trump, anytime after drill in on why someone supports Trump or is willing to hold their nose and vote for him given all he’s done and said and plans to do, it boils down to the above.

TwiceHorn · October 27

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

Okay now do who owns Trump.

I’ll start the list for you:

Timothy Mellon ($150MM)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/17/timothy-mellon-donor-trump-rfk/

Musk ($130 MM and counting)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/24/elon-musk-donates-another-436-million-to-pro-trump-america-pac/

Putin

You left off Miriam Adelson's 100M. https://www.timesofisrael.com/miriam-adelson-gives-100-million-to-trump-campaign-making-good-on-reported-pledge/

Definitely not elites. No way.

TwiceHorn · October 27

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

C'mon dude. You know damn well they have no interest in a conversation. They've avoided any and all questions, requests to expound upon their positions, and attempts to engage in a good faith discussion in favor of thread jumping and shitting. The "aggression" didn't start in earnest until everyone got fed up with that shit.

Mostly true, but someone's always throwing "troll" and "moron" bombs early in the threads.

wildcat09 · October 27

Also Peter Theil, Mark Andreessen, etc.

tchookem · October 27

Mostly true, but someone's always throwing "troll" and "moron" bombs early in the threads.

"Early" is not the same thing as "too early".

Schulz2.0 · October 27

1 hour ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

He was Traveling Texan prior to this username. He was WAT on Inside Texas. He got banned there due to his penchant for getting drunk and spouting off racist shit.

Kermit · October 27

Just now, Schulz2.0 said:

He was Traveling Texan prior to this username. He was WAT on Inside Texas. He got banned there due to his penchant for getting drunk and spouting off racist shit.

Doesn’t seem like he’s branched out very much.

immamac · October 27

I guess to clarify I meant we got here because everyone was nice. We don't need to run them off just yet. That time will come.

Leeroy Jenkins · October 27

3 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

He was Traveling Texan prior to this username. He was WAT on Inside Texas. He got banned there due to his penchant for getting drunk and spouting off racist shit.

LCHorn · October 27

9 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

He was Traveling Texan prior to this username. He was WAT on Inside Texas. He got banned there due to his penchant for getting drunk and spouting off racist shit.

Haha, I remember WAT from IT. I’m surprised he hasn’t Darwin’d himself by now.

Sawbonz · October 27

7 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

A what? You mean like someone named Caedmon Weak-foot, who even still holds to Woden and Tiw at home while only nominally observing the Christian rite of the hated Norman invaders?

I’ve been listening to the BBC Radio’s “The Sceptered Isle,” the encyclopedic history of England from Julius Caesar’s landing in 55 BC through the death of Queen Victoria. Just got to Henry I marrying Malcolm of Scotland’s daughter Matilda, so this hits close to home

Edited October 27 by Sawbonz

Brian Fantana · October 27

32 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Haha, I remember WAT from IT. I’m surprised he hasn’t Darwin’d himself by now.

He's mostly stuck to the DT which should tell you all you need to know.

Bozo_Casanova · October 27

3 hours ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

I agree.

Hermanator · October 27

3 hours ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

1 hour ago, LCHorn said:

Haha, I remember WAT from IT. I’m surprised he hasn’t Darwin’d himself by now.

Ironically, he's fully supporting the politicians that want to remove the systems that are keeping him from a Darwin fate.

So far

Hermanator · October 27

3 hours ago, Nivek said:

Was it really a scam? I thought it was well established that you would own in name only smidgen of land in name only, with no decision making ability, and then you could apply to have your first name legally changed to Lord and they sent you a bunch of colorful images. Someone actually thought they were getting land and a legal title for $100 give or take? What fucking poor would think that is real?

The same one that thinks trump saved the FDA and America's food supply?

Dbeasy · October 27

4 hours ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

4 hours ago, immamac said:

No I mean it's important that he shows how disconnected from reality he is. There hasn't been a single rational post in support of voting for Donald Trump.

I’ve said it many times. There are only 3 types of Trump supporters: 1) wealthy folks that will do anything to get more money, like Elon; 2) completely uninformed people who fell for all the propaganda, or just don’t pay attention, and that includes conservatives, religious right Christians who are basically hypocrites, and others who think he’s good for them when he’s just a crook, traitor, grifter, convict, etc; and 3) racists.

He suddenly popped up with #3 to go with #2. It’s gotten to the point that given that, it’s become very difficult to show these people patience and niceness. After all, they are supporting a candidate who preaches hate and lies every time he opens his mouth and his followers now demonstrate the same behavior. At some point you have to ask the question, “why treat them with respect when they don’t practice it or earn it?”

People accepting this behavior is what will destroy this country.

Satchel · October 27

4 hours ago, immamac said:

Helles has been a poster since shaggy days iirc I would say that if your interactions with him were a bit less aggressive it would be far less entertaining but more effective for a conversation.

I think it's really important that everyone understands what's going on with people like stros and helles especially right now and running them off is not the right thing to do.

Este.

Sawbonz · October 27

4 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

On Anglo-Saxons, I'd like to point out that we are Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and a few Frisians, each distinct peoples. I have no idea what this woke gobbligook "Anglo-Saxon" is supposed to mean. Sounds racially impure.

I blame Cerdic for beginning the miscegenation

Hefeweizen · October 27

4 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

On Anglo-Saxons, I'd like to point out that we are Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and a few Frisians, each distinct peoples. I have no idea what this woke gobbligook "Anglo-Saxon" is supposed to mean. Sounds racially impure.

Fuck you I am a PICT.

bolverk · October 27

5 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

On Anglo-Saxons, I'd like to point out that we are Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and a few Frisians, each distinct peoples. I have no idea what this woke gobbligook "Anglo-Saxon" is supposed to mean. Sounds racially impure.

Being a proud son of the Hiberno-Norman House of Burgh, aka Clanricarde, I couldn't care less what you Germanic mongrel dogs think.

Nivek · October 27

52 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Being a proud son of the Hiberno-Norman House of Burgh, aka Clanricarde, I couldn't care less what you Germanic mongrel dogs think.

1193 is your foundation? Bah. Your practically first generation immigrants and whoresons. Not even a king to your ancestry. Just a bunch of bootlickers from England. We should build a wall.

G650 · October 27

1 minute ago, Nivek said:

1193 is your foundation? Bah. Your practically first generation immigrants and whoresons. Not even a king to your ancestry. Just a bunch of bootlickers from England. We should build a wall.

Hadrian beat you to the punch brosef

Nivek · October 27

7 minutes ago, G650 said:

Hadrian beat you to the punch brosef

Wrong country.

G650 · October 27

Just now, Nivek said:

Wrong country.

I'm speaking to the wall that they built to keep my people out. Which didn't work. But then they kindly suggested we relocate quietly to this faraway colony called Virginia, lest some unpleasantness with the local hangman occur. Otherwise I would be typing this from outside Darlington, County Durham.

Biff Tannen · October 27

8 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

The odds of him choosing Argentina as the example of where he could move…

BevoAbyss · October 27

6 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

racist/greedy/wealthy/selfish/low information/single issue abortion vote

You left out Christian fascist.

Amazing how many times that happens on Surly.

The connecting through line for 98% of MAGA is Christian Evangelical Fundamentalist Creationist Fascist.

Edited October 27 by BevoAbyss

Biff Tannen · October 27

My blood runs back to 1066 mofos. I should have the magats imprisoned in the Tower of London. Shirley I might have some sway there.

RDCanecutter · October 28

23 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

My blood runs back to 1066 mofos.

Probably back to 1065 or even 1064, unless your ancestors were decanted in a sorcerer's workshop.

Biff Tannen · October 28

3 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Probably back to 1065 or even 1064, unless your ancestors were decanted in a sorcerer's workshop.

Well I god damn hope they were. If not, what is it all for anyway?

Al_4_ISU · October 28

Shit. I’m mostly German, Polish, and Serbian. Helles probably doesn’t even consider me “white”. Probably calls folks like me a “Pierogi N***er” or something.

Zepol87 · October 28

What the fuck it’s happening in here??

HOOKEM4 · October 28

9 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

What the fuck it’s happening in here??

My house is older than your house. I will end your reign. My bannermen far out class yourn!

Anastasis · October 28

11 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

What the fuck it’s happening in here??

Self avowed white supremacist says he’s been fighting in Ukraine and no one here is surprised.

BevoAbyss · October 28

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

My blood runs back to 1066 mofos.

My blood runs back very far in deep time, to about 9 billion years ABB (After the Big Bang).

-- That's when the solar system was formed from a supernova, an exploding star that spawned the ingredients for me to exist and be alive.

Covri · October 28

1 hour ago, Zepol87 said:

What the fuck it’s happening in here??

Snake Diggity · October 28

On 10/26/2024 at 4:24 PM, HellesBier said:

The podcast was awesome, Trump is more normal and funny than any of yall want to admit, but none of it matters because our politics are identity driven. You arent changing your mind, everything they do is inherently evil including solving the FDA and food issue in America and none of this matters. Trump could solve the ME crisis and you wouldnt care and will still call him Hitler. Tell me I am wrong. I am sure all I will get in rebuttal is negs though.

I’m just spitballing here but maybe thinking Trump is normal and funny is more a reflection of you than anyone else.

Homercles · October 28

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Self avowed white supremacist says he’s been fighting in Ukraine and no one here is surprised.

Anastasis · October 28

1 minute ago, Homercles said:

Sir, I believe in bacon supremacy.

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