Thing$ $till not going well for Joe Rogan, I $ee.

[wildcat09 29,601]

10 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

The approval of the long range missiles at this time is really odd. Why wait so long, until after the election?  What's it going to accomplish, or is he looking to escalate the war to fuck with Trump? It's such an odd thing to do right now, the time to approve it was nearly 4 years ago, if you wanted Ukraine to win the war. 

It's basically this. They want to put Ukraine in as good a position as Ukraine can be in when Trump takes office, to make it politically harder on Trump to try to force Ukraine to concede.

[Gil Bang 26,283]

[Pancho 46,420]

So…Zelenskyy offered to go on rogan’s show to set the record straight about the war, and Rogan said no.

also—Rogan is reportedly going to travel to mal to do a show and turnip “might stop by” yet he wasn’t willing to travel to meet with Harris. 

[956 Worldwide 35,611]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So…Zelenskyy offered to go on rogan’s show to set the record straight about the war, and Rogan said no.

also—Rogan is reportedly going to travel to mal to do a show and turnip “might stop by” yet he wasn’t willing to travel to meet with Harris. 

I am glad you posted this.  Here’s the clip:

 

It’s one to put to bed the notion that Rogan will talk to anyone and is working to present all sides of issues.  The fact is that his show is a vector of information manipulation and that he will NOT open his to discuss viewpoints that run counter to his chosen narratives that mostly support the political populist low-information right. 
 

It’s also time to put to bed the idea that his offer to Kamala was genuine or that future democrats need to work to get on his platform.  He’s there to undermine them, that’s the purpose.  

[mdmost 44,135]

Classic pussy who knows he's an idiot that is spouting off nonsense so of course he's terrified to get his ass handed to him point by point. 

[956 Worldwide 35,611]

28 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Classic pussy who knows he's an idiot that is spouting off nonsense so of course he's terrified to get his ass handed to him point by point. 

It’s not even that, having Zelenskyy on would hinder his ultimate goals. 
 

The new media literacy is to move from a content-driven analysis to an outcome driven analysis.  The baseline question being: do consumers of this media come away with a more or less informed and reality based understating of the topics discussed. 
 

For Rogan, the answer is clearly less informed and reality based. You can clearly file his platform away as a manipulator of information. As such, his platform cannot be reformed or used successfully by anyone hoping to advance a reality-based conversation or solution. 
 

It’s important to note that even clearly slanted media can pass this test.  For instance, though the mid-2000s a regular reader of either The New Republic or National Review would arguably have a better (if politically slanted) grasp of politics and world events than a irregular consumer of mainstream media outlets.  The same cannot be said of Rogan, his listeners are far more likely to simply believe absolute bullshit. 
 

His posture as an unbiased and unafraid open interviewer makes him even more toxic.  Elevating alien theorists and quacks to the same level of actual scientists or doctors doesn’t reveal the idiocy of the former.  Rather, it introduces confusion and a plausible belief that fantasy bullshit and reality are both equally justified beliefs. 
 

Again— he exists to manipulate information and has become an extremely influential and powerful person as a result. The purpose of a system is what it does. 

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[Aqua Buddha 14,816]

I was today old when I learned that Rogen is 5'6" or something.  It all makes more sense now.

[C-Man 27,845]

Stupid ass Rogan said the reason he endorsed Trump at the last minute due to concerns about Tim Walz’s honesty. Yes, that’s what that stupid meat head said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-rogan-says-he-endorsed-trump-due-to-concerns-about-tim-walzs-honesty/

[linux 1,787]

Ultimately there is no choice, kissing the ring was the right thing to do if you were behind, fucking unbelievable to me that they projected so much confidence knowing the real numbers.

Look I make hold no illusions, and I thought it was best to stay away, but that was when I was blind to the internal survey disaster. you stay away if you are ahead not if you are behind. Democrats have 0 inroads to the meathead population, not after supporting giga disasters like being on the idelogical side of Amber Heard (something like 95% of the population though she was guilty but the media still covered for her).

[Okie State 3,902]

21 hours ago, C-Man said:

Stupid ass Rogan said the reason he endorsed Trump at the last minute due to concerns about Tim Walz’s honesty. Yes, that’s what that stupid meat head said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-rogan-says-he-endorsed-trump-due-to-concerns-about-tim-walzs-honesty/

Well my entire family has been calling every Democrat under the sun a liar while also swearing that Trump doesn't lie at all. You can't even reason with people who are that disconnected from reality.

[Al_4_ISU 12,676]

Endorsing Trump because you have concerns about Walz’s honesty is like endorsing becoming a heroin addict because you freaked out on an edible.

[linux 1,787]

29 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Endorsing Trump because you have concerns about Walz’s honesty is like endorsing becoming a heroin addict because you freaked out on an edible.

Its a lie a filthy fucking lie, he is a guilt ridden mf that wants to use any excuse to say whatever the fuck to sleep better at night.

At the end of the day we can't overthink shit ever again, Waltz was the most popular of the 4 he was a great pick the fundamentals were sound the failure came in limiting his rural populism, instead to asking him to be a "male role model" I really can't overstate how fucked we are that we allow the progressive media to try to define masculinity.

[Underdog 29,252]

He was for Trump all the way, full of shit as always. 

[Dnaguy 12,727]

2 hours ago, Underdog said:

He was for Trump all the way, full of shit as always. 

Rogan is dumb, but he knows who butters his bread.

He and His audience want a circus show, the conspiracy, and a departure from reality.

Trump brings all that.

How the fuck are you going to get high or laugh interviewing Kamala Harris or the president of Ukraine? Fucking bummer, man.

Nerds and the real world are boring and give folks the sads. 
 

[linux 1,787]

6 hours ago, Underdog said:

He was for Trump all the way, full of shit as always. 

I don't think so, not all the way, he could have endorsed the clown early and often instead he half assed an endorsement at the 11th hour, he could have not corrected Trump 4 times about Harris ducking his interview.

The problem is he was a coward that refused to do what is right, instead cowtowed to his audience and the usual naive idea that you can influence Donald Trump in a quid pro quo, you can't.

I have come to the conclusion that there was absolutely nothing that could have been done in 2024 or even 2023 to prevent the Trump disaster, the endorsements were meaningless, the debates were meaningless (How many times did I say this? Kamala won hers by 66%... meaningless), the donations were meaningless, our fate was sealed in 2022 at the latest with the obsession to fall into the inflation Willy E Coyote trap.

[Parliament 14,636]

Friend: Texts me a Rogan clip and some accompanying links.

Me: I saw that too.  It’s intriguing but inaccurate.  I dId My OwN rEsEaRcH and here is what I found: (sends link and screenshots.).

(The most recent regards this narrative that Polio was almost burnt through when the vax came and the vax was/is of little value.

Friend: “Your facts are fake.”

Me: “This is so dumb I don’t know what to say.  Gonna just disengage.”

Friend: “See.  I’m right.”

Gonna be four full years of deciding all the time to engage and maybe change some minds, or just tune out and wait for the FAFO.  Exhausting.

[troph 25,269]

On 12/18/2024 at 9:36 AM, Parliament said:

Friend: Texts me a Rogan clip and some accompanying links.

Me: I saw that too.  It’s intriguing but inaccurate.  I dId My OwN rEsEaRcH and here is what I found: (sends link and screenshots.).

(The most recent regards this narrative that Polio was almost burnt through when the vax came and the vax was/is of little value.

Friend: “Your facts are fake.”

Me: “This is so dumb I don’t know what to say.  Gonna just disengage.”

Friend: “See.  I’m right.”

Gonna be four full years of deciding all the time to engage and maybe change some minds, or just tune out and wait for the FAFO.  Exhausting.

It’s over, at least for 2.5 years. Disengage, wait, hope it doesn’t destroy all of us, maybe reengage next cycle. The cake is fucking cooked and it’s burnt to hell and they think they want it that way. Nothing you can do. I say this belonging to a class of people that is the most at risk. Hope our system of federalism is allowed to further Balkanize which sounds awful but the hostility is there the only question is whether blue regions will be allowed to stay blue. If so, that’s the fall back, retreat position for the next 2-3 generations. I’m telling you it’s over - even if Dems win next cycle the profile of our citizenry is fucked. The complete bankruptcy of education means it’s going to be a long, long fucking haul back to a functioning democracy. 

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[Captainant 28,620]

On 12/18/2024 at 9:36 AM, Parliament said:

Friend: Texts me a Rogan clip and some accompanying links.

Me: I saw that too.  It’s intriguing but inaccurate.  I dId My OwN rEsEaRcH and here is what I found: (sends link and screenshots.).

(The most recent regards this narrative that Polio was almost burnt through when the vax came and the vax was/is of little value.

Friend: “Your facts are fake.”

Me: “This is so dumb I don’t know what to say.  Gonna just disengage.”

Friend: “See.  I’m right.”

Gonna be four full years of deciding all the time to engage and maybe change some minds, or just tune out and wait for the FAFO.  Exhausting.

That sounds like most discourse during the trump era, tbh