2020 Tampa Bay Rays

[Fawesome 111]

Did we postpone the draft or what

Yeah took it offline until we figure out what’s going on. It’ll be set a day or two before the season starts.

[NOMAAA 1696]

81 game (or less) season will be interesting for fantasy.

[NorthLoop 14305]

Or a World Series in December

[NOMAAA 1696]

imagine a snowy world series in minnesota.

[NOMAAA 1696]

why dont we do a draft for fun.  see what happens.  run some simulations of the season.  something.  anything.

[UTPhil2006 3831]

On 3/25/2020 at 8:50 AM, NOMAAA said:

imagine a snowy world series in minnesota.

Why would the Astros and Mets play in Minnesota?

[NOMAAA 1696]

ha.

[Fawesome 111]

why dont we do a draft for fun.  see what happens.  run some simulations of the season.  something.  anything.

I play OOTP. Definitely been satisfying the baseball itch.

[NOMAAA 1696]

We gonna do this if there is an 82 game season? 

[Fawesome 111]

We gonna do this if there is an 82 game season? 

I’m still in. Idk what type of setup ESPN will offer though.

[Capn81 388]

In as well.

[henrygandorf 29201]

duh doy. 

[UTPhil2006 3831]

In.  I'm sure the software would have to change, but would any of the rules?

[Goo Punch 4275]

listen, this whole "82 game season" thing is going to be so unpredictable, that i think the only fair thing to do is to award the season title/prize money to whomever had the first pick. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

i dont think we are going to have baseball yall.

[Fawesome 111]

i dont think we are going to have baseball yall.

Yeah this week will tell us all we need to know. Idk how a 48 game season would look in fantasy.

[henrygandorf 29201]

ok - i know this is crazy, but hear me out....

we do daily games.  every game is its own matchup, and every day is a w or an l.

if espn can't handle it, pretty sure draft kings or one of those can.

thoughts?

 

[NOMAAA 1696]

that would be interesting and keep everyone engaged.  would you do it like draftkings and you have a budget for each day or would you still draft a team?

[henrygandorf 29201]

8 hours ago, NOMAAA said:

that would be interesting and keep everyone engaged.  would you do it like draftkings and you have a budget for each day or would you still draft a team?

that's another interesting question.

when i wrote it, i was assuming the same draft setup, but maybe if we do daily budgeted lineups, the site could just run the league as they intended and it would make life easier.

[Capn81 388]

I think it would be fun to try, especially in a short season.

[Goo Punch 4275]

well i hate to be the one to throw this out there, but if we're going to do it DK style then we need to keep the draft order intact for next season. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

also FTR i'd prefer not to do the DK style, even if it means essentially wasting my no.1 overall pick on a truncated season that's going to be completely unpredictable. i'd rather my own team, my own players, guys who nobody else can have. last year when I had guys like Ketel Marte that was a huge advantage/coup for me. i don't want every team in the league to be able to take advantage of guys like that just because the season in shorter. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

uhhhhh no.  no draft, no keeping draft slots.  thats asinine.

[Goo Punch 4275]

12 minutes ago, NOMAAA said:

uhhhhh no.  no draft, no keeping draft slots.  thats asinine.

are you serious? we're going to redo the entire draft order now? fuck that. "oh hey, congrats on getting the no.1 pick Derka. oh btw we aren't going to do a draft this year so you can get fucked." yeah right. you're fucking high.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Goo Punch

[NOMAAA 1696]

can we get derka a trophy for winning the first pick?  not one fucking person has ever said ""oh hey, congrats on getting the no.1 pick" in a serious manner ever.  not ever.

[Goo Punch 4275]

lol ok. you're mad that you got the 9th pick and you want a cheap do-over. not happening. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

im not mad about anything because it doesnt matter. 

[henrygandorf 29201]

if we do a traditional draft, then yeah, obviously we're keeping the order.  if we don't - like if we do a daily draft format - then that order is gonzo forever.

there are a bunch of fun quirks in daily baseball, and i've always wanted to get more into it.  this could solve that issue.  yes, it's not normal fantasy baseball.  nothing is normal this year.  we're about to witness a ~60 game baseball season.  the object is to make it as fun as possible for us.

with a shortened (i assume?) "spring" training scenario, injuries will be all over the place.  i think ever-changeable rosters could counteract that.

also there's no research that backs up high draft picks =/= high finishes.  in football there is, but not baseball.

[NOMAAA 1696]

On 6/14/2020 at 3:53 PM, henrygandorf said:

if we do a traditional draft, then yeah, obviously we're keeping the order.  if we don't - like if we do a daily draft format - then that order is gonzo forever.

there are a bunch of fun quirks in daily baseball, and i've always wanted to get more into it.  this could solve that issue.  yes, it's not normal fantasy baseball.  nothing is normal this year.  we're about to witness a ~60 game baseball season.  the object is to make it as fun as possible for us.

with a shortened (i assume?) "spring" training scenario, injuries will be all over the place.  i think ever-changeable rosters could counteract that.

also there's no research that backs up high draft picks =/= high finishes.  in football there is, but not baseball.

what he said.

[Goo Punch 4275]

On 6/14/2020 at 3:53 PM, henrygandorf said:

 

also there's no research that backs up high draft picks =/= high finishes.  in football there is, but not baseball.

that may be correct, however:

1)2012 was the last time i got the first overall pick in this league, and I drafted Miggy and went wire to wire for the title. 

2)You know how I get down- trades. i can take Acuña or Yelich and turn them into 2 or 3 useful players with an early trade, which is something that i like to do when i get a very high pick. 

so even if there's no research that says it's an advantage, if still prefer to pick first overall every year if i had the choice, obviously. although this is probably the worst year to ever have the first overall pick with all of the unknowns out there- there's going to be crazy value in every round. i could see a ton of booms/busts during this truncated season. gonna be nuts. 

[Fawesome 111]

Looks like we are getting closer and closer to an actual season. 

Once it is agreed to, we can look at all the options. 

 

[Goo Punch 4275]

if we're going to do a daily thing then i'd prefer to do total points/stats as opposed to H2H. i think. i mean how long would our matchups be? one day? three days? we should try and flesh all of this out before the season starts.

@Fawesome will you help me tag everyone in the league so that we can get this discussion going? i'll tag a few who i can think of off top.

@henrygandorf

@NOMAAA

@BigOrange1

@Planet Houston

how we doing this y'all?

[henrygandorf 29201]

i agree that if (and it's a big if) we do daily, it will total points, and the closer we can get to a true draft kings format, the easier it will make our lives.

remember, our commissioner is next-level incompetent.

[NOMAAA 1696]

might also be kind of fun to do it old school and not use any online service.

[UTPhil2006 3831]

Just tell me what to do and when 

[Capn81 388]

I am down for whatever...if there is even a damn season.

[NorthLoop 14305]

we still gonna do 100 bucks or go halfsies for half season

[Fawesome 111]

we still gonna do 100 bucks or go halfsies for half season

I would assume halfies.

Between corona and the owners not moving off 60 games, don’t know if we’re gonna even have a season

[Goo Punch 4275]

fuck that noise, $500 entry fee for half a season. 

[Fawesome 111]

fuck that noise, $500 entry fee for half a season. 

Also an option.

Or you pay in relation to your draft slot. #1 = $100, #2 = 90, etc.

[Planet Houston 4943]

On 6/19/2020 at 8:00 PM, Capn81 said:

I am down for whatever...if there is even a damn season.

This is where I am. Up for whatever. I’m the biggest sports slut on the block. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

looks like we are back.  how much do we all kick in for derka's draft championship?  more importantly, does anyone want to run down the draft kings options and see if it will work?

[Fawesome 111]

I think $50 makes the most sense. I am still fine doing our regular setup with half the games. The good news is the last weeks of the season will still be meaningful so we can go all the way to the end without worrying about bench time scrubs. 

I have little interest in draft kings but if thats the route yall want to take, I get it. 

I will put a poll up on the main ESPN site. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

will there be enough weeks for everyone to play each other once?

[Fawesome 111]

11 minutes ago, NOMAAA said:

will there be enough weeks for everyone to play each other once?

no, from my count, its only 9-10 weeks depending on start/end date

[NOMAAA 1696]

how do we want to fix that?  points league this season?

[Fawesome 111]

we either go points, not have a full schedule, or run a weekly schedule against multiple opponents. i dont think ESPN is that sophisticated though. 

[henrygandorf 29201]

i could be down for points and multiple opponents per week. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

some thoughts:

•how long will the regular season be?

•how many weeks for the playoffs?

•how many teams make the playoffs?

•what is the payout structure?

•is everyone still in? there are several league members who i haven't seen posting in a while 

[Fawesome 111]

some thoughts:
•how long will the regular season be?
•how many weeks for the playoffs?
•how many teams make the playoffs?
•what is the payout structure?
•is everyone still in? there are several league members who i haven't seen posting in a while 

With the shortened schedule, I think the only thing that makes sense is a full roto points standings league. Kind of like the EPL, top of the table wins it.

Espn doesn’t allow multiple opponents I don’t think; so if we did that option it would be 6-7 weeks of regular season. And a 4 team playoff for weeks 8 and 9.