RIP Black Mamba: Kobe Bryant dead in helicopter crash CONFIRMED

[Pasken 1309]

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Thought it's being widely reported the helicopter was going 160 knots (184 mph) when it crashed into the mountain.

That’s according to flight data radar tracking. You take that with a giant grain of salt and wait for the info on the vehicle to be analyzed.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Everything you just typed is highly speculative. 

Thank god we never have speculative posts here

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

9 minutes ago, Pasken said:

You take that with a giant grain of salt and wait for the info on the vehicle to be analyzed.

well, OK, but how "off" do you think it is? like I'm speculating "ah the pilot would barely have time between the instant the hill appeared through the fog and his instantaneous death" and your reaction is "we don't know how fast it was going"-- what, you think they very slowly crashed into the hill and the guy had time to think "well shit, let's try spinning, that's a good trick!" or try a bunch of evasive maneuvers or tell the passengers, "uh oh, brace for impact, I may have miscalculated our altitude"....?

to the extent I even made a point, it was just that they were probably going so fast that the pilot barely had time to register "I'm going to die" before he did die, and I will bet you a testicle that the evidence will not contravene that seemingly uncontroversial guess on my part

Edited January 27, 2020 by SwanderedTalent

[wild_turkey 3166]

2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

No, what I do not understand is the wailing and crying that is going on.  Is it a shock, yes.  Is it newsworthy, yes.  Am I going to cry about it, nope.  The reaction has been incredibly over the top and unnecessary.  Course, I thought the same when Pricess Diana died.  Completely over the top and completely unnecessary.  

I generally respect you and your posts around here, and I have an idea of the things that are important to you in life. As such, I looked back at the thread when Notre Dame was on fire to see what your reaction was. A selection of your comments were:

This is absolutely heartbreaking.

I have been fortunate enough to visit it multiple times.  I have a lot of good memories of Notre Dame.  I am absolutely sick right now.  If it comes out that this is arson....

Just an absolute tragedy all around.  The documents and history that we are losing right now is horrific.

I am just absolutely heartbroken.  Since I found out, I have been useless at work.

Now think for a second how you would've felt if some asshole poster showed up in that thread to tell you that Notre Dame was just a building and your emotions were unjustified.

Regardless of your thoughts on Kobe Bryant as a person, what happened yesterday was a tragedy. You don't have the right to dictate to other people how they should react to a tragedy, just because your opinions and emotions are significantly different. It's incredibly narcissistic of you to expect everyone else to align their views with yours, and then go around posting from your high horse when they aren't.

[Wally Pryor 5261]

50 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Theres some great discussion on reddit in the helicopter section.  This guy "witnessed" it

 

 

Hovering, and then 20 seconds later, impact, at 184MPH?

Some hellacious acceleration.  Just guessing it wasn't going that fast.

Not sure if that type information is on the black box or not?  Read where it had one. 

[Pasken 1309]

4 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

well, OK, but how "off" do you think it is? like I'm speculating "ah the pilot would barely have time between the instant the hill appeared through the fog and his instantaneous death" and your reaction is "we don't know how fast it was going"-- what, you think they very slowly crashed into the hill and the guy had time to think "well shit, let's try spinning, that's a good trick!" or try a bunch of evasive maneuvers or tell the passengers, "uh oh, brace for impact, I may have miscalculated our altitude"....?

to the extent I even made a point, it was just that they were probably going so fast that the pilot barely had time to register "I'm going to die" before he did die, and I will bet you a testicle that the evidence will not contravene that seemingly uncontroversial guess on my part

With the fog that was reported in that area, you would not have to be going fast to avoid getting your roter blades clipped and then all it takes is for the cab to fall a modest amount for everyone to get crushed to death.

 

There was no way that pilot was flying 130 mph in VFR without a landmark. You are going to owe me 1 testicle. 

[gernblansten 3197]

Just imagine if someone pointed out how many people have tripped and fallen at Notre Dame Cathedral over the years. Sure, the Cathedral would claim those people made decisions to put themselves in a situation and readily wanted to walk around, but that joint was old and wrought with hidden dangers. 

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

Now think for a second how you would've felt if some asshole poster showed up in that thread to tell you that Notre Dame was just a building and your emotions were unjustified.
Regardless of your thoughts on Kobe Bryant as a person, what happened yesterday was a tragedy. You don't have the right to dictate to other people how they should react to a tragedy, just because your opinions and emotions are significantly different. It's incredibly narcissistic of you to expect everyone else to align their views with yours, and then go around posting from your high horse when they aren't.

Honestly though, imagine caring more about a fucking building more than human life.

[clapclapclap 9000]

1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Theres some great discussion on reddit in the helicopter section.  This guy "witnessed" it

 

 

Dude is wearing a TWA hat.  Coincidence that he just happened to be wearing it yesterday, or an aviation enthusiast that put it on and rushed down there to be a fake witness?  (Not crisis actor conspiracy, but rather one of those hobbyists that thinks they are an expert and want to show off.)

Edited January 27, 2020 by clapclapclap

[d2o 1602]

13 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

I generally respect you and your posts around here, and I have an idea of the things that are important to you in life. As such, I looked back at the thread when Notre Dame was on fire to see what your reaction was. A selection of your comments were:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now think for a second how you would've felt if some asshole poster showed up in that thread to tell you that Notre Dame was just a building and your emotions were unjustified.

Regardless of your thoughts on Kobe Bryant as a person, what happened yesterday was a tragedy. You don't have the right to dictate to other people how they should react to a tragedy, just because your opinions and emotions are significantly different. It's incredibly narcissistic of you to expect everyone else to align their views with yours, and then go around posting from your high horse when they aren't.

I'm out of rep for the day but man if this aint rep worthy.

[Assman 1830]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Hemisfair. 😀

Carry on.

You can't deny that the roof was half of a sphere.

[C-Man 27230]

4 minutes ago, Assman said:

You can't deny that the roof was half of a sphere.

Nope. That place got loud AF during the playoffs.

[USMCHorn 1369]

3 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by USMCHorn
It's not worth it.

[Sbbruin 21861]

Interesting from ESPN:

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The helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant and eight other passengers that crashed into a hillside in Southern California on Sunday was in a climbing left turn about 2,400 feet high before it dove to the ground, a person familiar with preliminary investigative information about the fatal crash told ESPN.

The source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told ESPN that the pilot had, only moments before, contacted air traffic controllers to say that he had begun a climb to "go above the layer" of clouds present.

This seems odd if there was no mechanical failure.  Climbing above the cloud layer seems like the right idea, but if you had limited visibility, and no mechanical failure, why did it dive?

[Spankytoes 1742]

2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I have been on this thread since the beginning.  Others brought it up, but I kept out of it.  Then I get vilified for my stance that the mourning shown so far is excessive, yeah, I am going to explain why I have a hard time mourning him.  

To @Spankytoes who asked about all the good he had done, if he had properly paid for his crime, then I would agree with you.  But he never paid for his crime, not really.  

I did?

[mdmost 43004]

I think she confused you with me, which is pretty offensive to us both. But more offensive to me. 

Edited January 27, 2020 by mdmost

[usmc0331horn 953]

Helicopter crash reconstruction Shag not going away.

[dad 557]

17 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Interesting from ESPN:

This seems odd if there was no mechanical failure.  Climbing above the cloud layer seems like the right idea, but if you had limited visibility, and no mechanical failure, why did it dive?

A dive would only make sense if there was a mechanical failure.

[Sgt Hulk 13785]

15 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Interesting from ESPN:

This seems odd if there was no mechanical failure.  Climbing above the cloud layer seems like the right idea, but if you had limited visibility, and no mechanical failure, why did it dive?

Not a pilot but a helo pilot forum a bunch of pilots explained. Once you get into clouds the oh shut factor kicks in and the immediate reaction is to get back out. Not climb higher. It went into vfr ifr imc etc.   another stat on ATC forum said the survival rate of a oh shit into cloud and drop back down to fix it was 14%.  Meaning only 14% was successful without a Crash. The terrain the clouds etc fucked it all up.  Some of those guys went into great detail outlining everything. After reading all morning it def seems pilot error. Got lost in clouds tried to dive out and didn’t realize they traveled into the mountain. 

[Dahobbs 17625]

22 minutes ago, dad said:

A dive would only make sense if there was a mechanical failure.

Collision with a drone or something?

[NowThis 931]

1 hour ago, clapclapclap said:

Dude is wearing a TWA hat.  Coincidence that he just happened to be wearing it yesterday, or an aviation enthusiast that put it on and rushed down there to be a fake witness?  (Not crisis actor conspiracy, but rather one of those hobbyists that thinks they are an expert and want to show off.)

yeah, his recollection seems a little too perfect

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

6 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Collision with a drone or something?

Or vertigo. 

[Bash Riprock 1695]

Now we're questioning the eye witness even though the property manager who is the other witness knows him.

 

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[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 1/27/2020 at 10:44 AM, wild_turkey said:

I generally respect you and your posts around here, and I have an idea of the things that are important to you in life. As such, I looked back at the thread when Notre Dame was on fire to see what your reaction was. A selection of your comments were:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now think for a second how you would've felt if some asshole poster showed up in that thread to tell you that Notre Dame was just a building and your emotions were unjustified.

Regardless of your thoughts on Kobe Bryant as a person, what happened yesterday was a tragedy. You don't have the right to dictate to other people how they should react to a tragedy, just because your opinions and emotions are significantly different. It's incredibly narcissistic of you to expect everyone else to align their views with yours, and then go around posting from your high horse when they aren't.

10 Euros says more alter boys were raped in Notre Dame than in that hotel room in Colorado.

Edited January 29, 2020 by Onboard 2.0

[Bash Riprock 1695]

yeah, his recollection seems a little too perfect

Yea, maybe because he was there when it happened?

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[dad 557]

8 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Yea, maybe because he was there when it happened?

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And it was yesterday lol

[Murfdogg21 4413]

1 hour ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Never thought a Texas fan would equate Kobe’s accusation with OJ. Good work there pal. 

Quickest analogy I could come up with for a Southern California world class professional athlete that was universally loved and also near universally thought to be guilty of an assault. I apologize. Rape does not equal murder...I’ll add that disclaimer. My posts were only in regard to the hero or deity status Kobe is getting. 

[Guadaloopy 10973]

22 minutes ago, NowThis said:

yeah, his recollection seems a little too perfect

Maybe I’m a weirdo, but when I see or hear something unusual with an aircraft, I automatically check my watch and start noticing details.   

[Doc Reeves 6434]

This is a very sad story about a personality we all knew and like most of us Kobe was... complicated. He had some amazing professional qualities and perhaps some questionable personal issues. 

the thing that matters right now is that he obliviously touched a great deal of people in a very positive way. I remember my mother telling me about her friend when Elvis died. Being stationed in Europe, they were in Egypt with theit friends for a trip and it came on the radio in the Cairo bizzar.  While everyone was shocked, he spent the trip in the bar by himself quietly drinking scotch with tears in his eyes. 

i remember hearing about other feelings about JFK or Lady Di and some friends telling me theirs about Selena or K Cobain and just not getting it. I get it know. There’s a kinship that is separate from celebrity or fame, it resonates deep with in us because he is inside us. If you even casually watched basketball Kobe was a Jeter type with cool and understated confidence and the talent and timing to silence critics without saying a word. He’s part of our love of basketball now but he’s also a part of our experience growing up and becoming men.

I’m not very forgiving as far as people in power and sexual assault, but regardless of the issues and court case I feel that he was a person marked by fate or providence to suffer death with his child. That’s a pretty shitty thing and I would say karma is satisfied.

Edited January 27, 2020 by Doc Reeves

[Helobious 9462]

3 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Maybe I’m a weirdo, but when I see or hear something unusual with an aircraft, I automatically check my watch and start noticing details.   

Not totally out of the ordinary. Whenever I hear arguing outside, see a suspicious person, or hear gunshots, I always check the time & make a mental note. Years of watching the First 48 taught me the importance of timelines. 

[Hate 20112]

Not totally out of the ordinary. Whenever I hear arguing outside, see a suspicious person, or hear gunshots, I always check the time & make a mental note. Years of watching the First 48 taught me the importance of timelines. 

Same here except I’ve never seen the First 48. I’m glad to see I’m not the only weirdo.

[Hate 20112]

Not totally out of the ordinary. Whenever I hear arguing outside, see a suspicious person, or hear gunshots, I always check the time & make a mental note. Years of watching the First 48 taught me the importance of timelines. 

Same here except I’ve never seen the First 48. I’m glad to see I’m not the only weirdo.

[d2o 1602]

16 minutes ago, dad said:

And it was yesterday lol

The interview was only a few hours after the fact.

[NowThis 931]

https://www.besthugecocks.com/watch/1164666/emma-butt-pegging-her-male-slave

Planters dials back on Mr. Peanut's death following Kobe Bryant news

 

New York (CNN Business)Kraft Heinz (KHC) is pausing promotion for its Super Bowl ad that shows the death of longtime Planters mascot Mr. Peanut following the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant and eight others.

Planters' last week released a commercial in which the 104-year old mascot falls to his death after the company's Nutmobile veers off a cliff. The passengers -- actors Wesley Snipes and Matt Walsh -- all land on a tree branch, but Mr. Peanut "saves" them by letting go and falling to his death. The vehicle then explodes.

[Rip76 4943]

Haha wtf man

[austingirl 2191]

5 minutes ago, NowThis said:

https://www.besthugecocks.com/watch/1164666/emma-butt-pegging-her-male-slave

Planters dials back on Mr. Peanut's death following Kobe Bryant news

 

New York (CNN Business)Kraft Heinz (KHC) is pausing promotion for its Super Bowl ad that shows the death of longtime Planters mascot Mr. Peanut following the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant and eight others.

Planters' last week released a commercial in which the 104-year old mascot falls to his death after the company's Nutmobile veers off a cliff. The passengers -- actors Wesley Snipes and Matt Walsh -- all land on a tree branch, but Mr. Peanut "saves" them by letting go and falling to his death. The vehicle then explodes.

Am I missing a joke with the url at the top of your post?

[dad 557]

Damn it I clicked on that stupid link at work. Waiting for HR to come pick me up with a card board box any second now. WTF.

[mdmost 43004]

NowThis forgot to close out of his Incognito window when he was linking to his favorite porn. 

[GotThatFire 166]

Lulz

[smuggs 9353]

14 minutes ago, NowThis said:

https://www.besthugecocks.com/watch/1164666/emma-butt-pegging-her-male-slave

My lord this is outstanding. 

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

Eichenwaldian slip there

[C-Man 27230]

17 minutes ago, NowThis said:

https://www.besthugecocks.com/watch/1164666/emma-butt-pegging-her-male-slave

Planters dials back on Mr. Peanut's death following Kobe Bryant news

 

New York (CNN Business)Kraft Heinz (KHC) is pausing promotion for its Super Bowl ad that shows the death of longtime Planters mascot Mr. Peanut following the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant and eight others.

Planters' last week released a commercial in which the 104-year old mascot falls to his death after the company's Nutmobile veers off a cliff. The passengers -- actors Wesley Snipes and Matt Walsh -- all land on a tree branch, but Mr. Peanut "saves" them by letting go and falling to his death. The vehicle then explodes.

[d2o 1602]

8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

NowThis forgot to close out of his Incognito window when he was linking to his favorite porn. 

Bingo!!

 

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by d2o

[Sbbruin 21861]

18 minutes ago, NowThis said:

https://www.besthugecocks.com/watch/1164666/emma-butt-pegging-her-male-slave

Planters dials back on Mr. Peanut's death following Kobe Bryant news

 

New York (CNN Business)Kraft Heinz (KHC) is pausing promotion for its Super Bowl ad that shows the death of longtime Planters mascot Mr. Peanut following the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant and eight others.

Planters' last week released a commercial in which the 104-year old mascot falls to his death after the company's Nutmobile veers off a cliff. The passengers -- actors Wesley Snipes and Matt Walsh -- all land on a tree branch, but Mr. Peanut "saves" them by letting go and falling to his death. The vehicle then explodes.

Ha, now this accidentally left his latest browsing site in the link.

[jimmyjazz 45976]

Wait, was Kobe the slave?

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

14 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

900 the cheapest ticket on stubhub.. nosebleed corners

 

 

Anything lower level is pushing 2 grand just for 1 seat.

 

Inside the NBA is gone be tough

You should see all star game tix.  They were already high.  Now getting to SB level for anything in middle to lower sections.  

[Kel Varnsen 8539]

Let he who has not accidentally outed their fetish with a pasted link in email/forum post, cast the first stone.

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

6 minutes ago, smuggs said:

My lord this is outstanding. 

 

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

3 minutes ago, d2o said:

Bingo!!

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Ha, now this accidentally left his latest browsing site in the link.

This is the best shit since Rocko had all the tranny site links on his posts.  Legit lol 😂 

[hayden_horn 11362]

man, i can't decide if i should edit that or just keep laughing. people are looking at me sideways in the office, but fucking hell, that's some funny shit right there.

[Deej 76830]

15 minutes ago, dad said:

Damn it I clicked on that stupid link at work. Waiting for HR to come pick me up with a card board box any second now. WTF.

How dare you watch pegging videos during this time of mourning.