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The thing is, I doubt someone who takes dick and sucks cock in front of a camera - and who takes money for it with the full realization that the film will be distributed to hundreds of thousands to millions of viewers - is going to be the slightest bit distressed at the use of the word 'whore'.  

But as a non-pejorative and universally accepted factual descriptor, someone who has sex in exchange for money with other people is - ya know - a whore.   But whore has a long pejorative history, so 'adult actress' seems like a better term in polite society.    But this is the home base for refugees from Shaggy, so talking about the whore seems more appropriate.  

#teamwhore 

 

I thought "hour" was the preferred nomenclature.  Or model/actress/whore.

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Squire Patton Boggs now implicated in money flow with  Cohen's Essential Consultants LLC. 

The directionality of flow is not defined at this time.  I eagerly await SPB's full clarification.

Squire Patton Boggs is currently the third-largest lobbying firm in the U.S. after Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld and Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck.[5] The lobbying arm, long managed by Thomas Hale Boggs, Jr., is currently managed by former United States Senators John Breaux and Trent Lott.[6]

That pretty much answers that.

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This is is a nice exchange:

Also used CSpan Cam to show proof of all 3 being together on Dec 12, 2016. And if Cohen recorded it. Gold !!!

That is collusion, right? Even if you can't follow through. They were going to lift sanctions but couldn't if I remember right.

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Squire Patton Boggs is currently the third-largest lobbying firm in the U.S. after Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld and Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck.[5] The lobbying arm, long managed by Thomas Hale Boggs, Jr., is currently managed by former United States Senators John Breaux and Trent Lott.[6]

That pretty much answers that.

Alexander van der Zwaan was working in the London office of Skadden Arps, one of the world’s largest and most powerful corporate law firms before he pleaded guilty to lying to Mueller's team.  He's serving prison time right now.  

Just a little heads up for any well heeled attorneys and businessmen who won't find corporate protection from any lying or criminal misdeeds.

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Alexander van der Zwaan was working in the London office of Skadden Arps, one of the world’s largest and most powerful corporate law firms before he pleaded guilty to lying to Mueller's team.  He's serving prison time right now.  

Just a little heads up for any well heeled attorneys and businessmen who won't find corporate protection from any lying or criminal misdeeds.

The point was, Squire Patton Boggs is neck-deep in lobbying and influence peddling.  Avenatti has a point in that the law firm end of it probably doesn't hire many or any Cooley grads.  But the lobbying end is the shitty end of the stick.

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20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The point was, Squire Patton Boggs is neck-deep in lobbying and influence peddling.  Avenatti has a point in that the law firm end of it probably doesn't hire many or any Cooley grads.  But the lobbying end is the shitty end of the stick.

There's shady undertones.  SPB had an ill defined relationship with Cohen and booted him out of their office space after the FBI raid.  There was also some kind of money flow between SPB and the pop up LLC Cohen set up purportedly to pay hush money among other things.  The nature of SPB's entanglement with Cohen remains to be seen, but the potential for things breaking the wrong way for them as facts emerge seems quite real.

 

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35 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

snap! It was in the Dossier. Post #1456  article confirms the dossier.

Something I found strange about the Dossier is there is ZERO mention of Don Jr. or Jared Kushner.

Just from the public reports, it’s clear Kushner and Don Jr. had a several contacts with Russians and Wikileaks during and after the campaign.  

It’s difficult to believe Christopher Steele didn’t come across some intel regarding Kushner and Don Jr.  Maybe he left them out of the report because they were Trump’s kids?  I dunno but it seemed odd.

  However, there are some redactions in the Dossier.

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The more I read about Avenatti, the more I think that we're gonna find out he's a lot more like Trump/Cohen than he'd like to admit. Between the Tully's fiasco and his recent divorce, I suspect his lavish lifestyle might be putting the squeeze on his finances. It doesn't mean that Avennatti won't uncover some legit shady shit(not exactly hard when Trump is involved), but I'm always leary of someone's motives if they are desperate for money. 

While he clearly gives no fucks, and his willingness to troll Trump is amusing, I'd tap the brakes a bit on "hero" status for now, as we're fairly early on in the proceedings with this guy. 

 

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The more I read about Avenatti, the more I think that we're gonna find out he's a lot more like Trump/Cohen than he'd like to admit. Between the Tully's fiasco and his recent divorce, I suspect his lavish lifestyle might be putting the squeeze on his finances. It doesn't mean that Avennatti won't uncover some legit shady shit(not exactly hard when Trump is involved), but I'm always leary of someone's motives if they are desperate for money. 

While he clearly gives no fucks, and his willingness to troll Trump is amusing, I'd tap the brakes a bit on "hero" status for now, as we're fairly early on in the proceedings with this guy. 

 

As long as there isn’t treason in his background he will come out smelling like roses. That’s where the bar is. 

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The more I read about Avenatti, the more I think that we're gonna find out he's a lot more like Trump/Cohen than he'd like to admit. Between the Tully's fiasco and his recent divorce, I suspect his lavish lifestyle might be putting the squeeze on his finances. It doesn't mean that Avennatti won't uncover some legit shady shit(not exactly hard when Trump is involved), but I'm always leary of someone's motives if they are desperate for money. 
While he clearly gives no fucks, and his willingness to troll Trump is amusing, I'd tap the brakes a bit on "hero" status for now, as we're fairly early on in the proceedings with this guy. 
 

He got a half-billion dollar verdict last year. You think he’s hurting for cash?
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The more I read about Avenatti, the more I think that we're gonna find out he's a lot more like Trump/Cohen than he'd like to admit. Between the Tully's fiasco and his recent divorce, I suspect his lavish lifestyle might be putting the squeeze on his finances. It doesn't mean that Avennatti won't uncover some legit shady shit(not exactly hard when Trump is involved), but I'm always leary of someone's motives if they are desperate for money. 

While he clearly gives no fucks, and his willingness to troll Trump is amusing, I'd tap the brakes a bit on "hero" status for now, as we're fairly early on in the proceedings with this guy. 

 

When the House Republicans are white washing an investigation and a Las Vegas showman lawyer reveals all their hypocrisy he will get a better shake from history than the present House Republicans will.

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When the House Republicans are white washing an investigation and a Las Vegas showman lawyer reveals all their hypocrisy he will get a better shake from history than the present House Republicans will.

I certainly don't doubt that. 

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That payday likely puts him at 9 figures.  He’s not spending that much.  Lol

Split three ways and on appeal. He hasn't seen a dime yet. And I bet he's carrying a hefty chunk of out-of-pockets on it, too. 

 

Holy fuck. 450 million of that verdict is punitive damages.  No way that holds up on appeal even in the Ninth Circuit. I don't know why the trial judge even signed that judgment.  Ol Mikey fixin to take about a 400 million dollar haircut. 

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He got a half-billion dollar verdict last year. You think he’s hurting for cash?

Not sure about that

https://www.law.com/therecorder/2018/04/11/stormy-daniels-lawyer-avenatti-fights-to-save-huge-punitive-award-against-kimberly-clark/

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Michael Avenatti is famous these days as Stormy Daniels’ lawyer, but he made his mark in legal circles last year for winning a gigantic punitive damages award.

Avenatti went toe-to-toe with a top-notch team from King & Spalding in a California class action over “leaky” surgical gowns by Kimberly-Clark and spin-off Halyard Health. He walked away with a verdict of $3.9 million in compensatory damages and a stunning $450 million in punitive damages.

The award was clearly vulnerable—the punitive damages were 115 times greater than economic ones, and there was no evidence of any physical injury. But it’s a reminder of how brutally effective Avenatti can be in front of a jury.

On March 30, U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee of the Central District of California whacked the award down to size, setting punitive damages at $20.7 million.

Kimberly-Clark was accused of selling surgical gowns that were supposed to be impermeable, providing the highest level of protection to medical personnel. If during surgery a doctor or nurse accidentally came into contact with a patient’s blood, the “MicroCool” gowns were supposed to provide a leak-proof barrier that would protect them from exposure to contagious diseases like HIV or hepatitis.

The problem, as a former executive told “60 Minutes” in a report on the case in 2016, is that the gowns “would leak. When we pressure tested them, especially in the seams … Kimberly-Clark knew that if they told customers, it would cost us a lot of business.”

The plaintiffs argued that the companies “had known since 2012 that the gowns were defective, failed industry tests, and did not meet relevant standards, thus placing health care professionals and patients at considerable risk for infection, serious bodily harm and death.”

Clearly Avenatti’s arguments resonated with the jury. As he put it in post-trial court papers, the punitive damages were “a clear message that they found defendants’ conduct to be extremely despicable and reprehensible.”

But that doesn’t mean the award passes muster under the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in State Farm Mutual Auto. Ins. v. Campbell, which held that there is presumptive preference for single-digit ratios between punitive and compensatory damages.

Gee gave Avenatti a choice: accept the lower award, or try the case a second time on the issue of the amount of punitive damages.

On Monday, Avenatti indicated he would accept the reduced sum. “[T]he court’s order is extremely favorable to plaintiff’s position and results in millions of dollars in punitive damages,” he wrote.  

 

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Split three ways and on appeal. He hasn't seen a dime yet. And I bet he's carrying a hefty chunk of out-of-pockets on it, too. 

True but he’s won a few monsters from what I hear.  The big PI guys I know around here don’t struggle.  He seems to fit that mold.  

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Lots of people chipping in. He’s getting paid at least something on the Stormy case as well.  Although the real payoff is the publicity.  

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/stormy/

Ignore their guessing on his net worth - they admit its BS too.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bustle.com/p/michael-avenattis-net-worth-shows-stormy-daniels-lawyer-has-a-colorful-past-9068843/amp

 

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Lots of people chipping in. He’s getting paid at least something on the Stormy case as well.  Although the real payoff is the publicity.  

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/stormy/

Ignore their guessing on his net worth - they admit its BS too.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bustle.com/p/michael-avenattis-net-worth-shows-stormy-daniels-lawyer-has-a-colorful-past-9068843/amp

 

Like I said earlier, he's a lot like Trump. He craves publicity and I suspect he goes out of his way to promote a financial prosperity that far exceeds reality. He's smarter than Trump, but so are the dumps Mueller takes in the morning. 

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Like I said earlier, he's a lot like Trump. He craves publicity and I suspect he goes out of his way to promote a financial prosperity that far exceeds reality. He's smarter than Trump, but so are the dumps Mueller takes in the morning. 

Yeah, he’s a fuckload smarter than Trump.  And you can absolutely bet your ass on the fact any dirt on him would be put out there. 

Maybe Trump’s cronies just need to dig more.  Either way, I’m not gonna discount him as some carnival barker, ala Trump.  

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This explains why the FBI was talking to Lesin. Possible money Laundering when he purchased California Real Estate.

Holy Shit, I wonder if the Trump property was involved in this? Since Mueller presumably has all this and investigated it months ago, then Michael digging and spilling the beans after the fact doesn't interfere with Mueller's investigation and helps put more heat on Trump. This shit is fascinating. I hope Mueller drops the hammer down soon because I want to know if this is on the right track.

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WASHINGTON -- U.S. federal authorities are considering a request to investigate whether a powerful Russian state media boss, Mikhail Lesin, violated U.S. anti-money-laundering laws when he purchased expensive California real estate.

RFE/RL has obtained a copy of a December 3 letter from U.S. Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik that says the request by U.S. Senator Roger Wicker was referred to the U.S. Justice Department's criminal division and the FBI.

A U.S. Justice Department spokesman confirmed the letter's authenticity.

Lesin, the head of Russian state-owned entertainment conglomerate Gazprom-Media, is a former Russian press minister and is seen as the mastermind behind the Kremlin-funded RT broadcasting network.

Wicker asked the U.S. Justice Department in July to investigate whether Lesin used illicit funds to purchase several multimillion-dollar homes in the Los Angeles area.

Wicker told RFE/RL that while the Justice Department "does not confirm or deny the existence of an ongoing investigation," he believed Kadzik's letter "is a positive step forward."

"I am hopeful that the full range of tools available to the agency are being used to look into possible violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act and anti-money-laundering statutes by Mr. Lesin," Wicker said in e-mailed comments.

Documents submitted in unrelated litigation in California Superior Court and obtained by RFE/RL show Lesin is the sole owner of Dastel Corporation, a company incorporated in California in July 2011.

Public property registries show that Dastel Corporation purchased a 13,000-square-foot (1,208-square-meter) Beverly Hills home in August 2011 for $13.8 million and a 10,600-square-foot (985-square-meter) Brentwood home for $9 million in 2012.

Public records and court documents show that two other pricey properties in the Los Angeles area are linked to Lesin's immediate family.

In his July 29 letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, Wicker said the fact "that a Russian public servant could have amassed the considerable funds required to acquire and maintain" such expensive assets abroad "raises serious questions."

Lesin responded to Wicker's letter in a lengthy interview with the Russian version of "Forbes" magazine in August, claiming that his children took out loans to purchase the real estate in question.

"It certainly is not my property," Lesin said in the interview.

But Dastel Corporation president and treasurer Ilya Tsipis said in a July 21 declaration to Los Angeles Superior Court that from the company's inception, "the entire issued and outstanding stock of Dastel has been owned by a single person: Mikhail Lesin, a resident of the United States of America."

Tsipis attached to his declaration what he called a "true and correct copy" of Lesin's stock certificate, which corroborates Tsipis's statements and was seen by RFE/RL. Tsipis added that Dastel "is not owned and has never been owned" by Lesin's son, Anton Lessine, daughter-in-law, or wife.

The declaration was made in connection with a lawsuit filed by a household worker employed by Dastel who claims that the company and Lesin's immediate family members committed numerous labor-law violations.

That lawsuit is set to go to trial in March, according to the U.S. local news site Patch.com.

Anton Lessine is a film producer who served alongside Hollywood star Brad Pitt as an executive producer for the World War II drama "Fury," which starred Pitt and was released in October.

Lesin said in the "Forbes" interview that his daughter heads a bureau for RT, the Kremlin-funded international news network launched in 2005.

Lesin has been widely credited as a mastermind of the RT project, which U.S. officials have accused of disseminating Kremlin "propaganda." The network has consistently responded to such criticism by saying it provides an alternative perspective to global events.

The founder of Video International, one of Russia's largest advertising firms, Lesin served as press minister during Russian President Vladimir Putin's first term, when he played a central role in cementing state control over the independent television channel NTV.

He went on to serve as a Kremlin adviser during Putin's second term and was dismissed from that post in 2009 by then-President Dmitry Medvedev.

Lesin has headed Gazprom-Media, the country's largest media holding, since October 2013.

 

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15 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Avenatti is the lawyer for a porn star. 

Arent those guys supposed to be sleazy AF?

I would be disappointed if he was clean and taught Sunday school at his local church.

Point being, who gives a shit about Avenatti? It’s what he can prove that matters.

You know how you find truffles?  Pigs.  And they get deep into the mud to find the good stuff.  

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Avenatti is the lawyer for a porn star. 

Arent those guys supposed to be sleazy AF?

I would be disappointed if he was clean and taught Sunday school at his local church.

Point being, who gives a shit about Avenatti? It’s what he can prove that matters.

I highly doubt that Avenatti is privy to information that Mueller's team doesn't already know. This is a high stakes matter that will have huge ramifications on our country's future. I would prefer that Mueller drive the narrative rather than a porn star's publicity seeking lawyer. I don't question Mueller's motivations, but Avenatti's motivations I"m less comfortable with. 

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True but he’s won a few monsters from what I hear.  The big PI guys I know around here don’t struggle.  He seems to fit that mold.  

Well, he doesn't seem to pay his fucking bills at his lawfirm.  https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/35mdgaytn/california-central-bankruptcy-court/eagan-avenatti-llp/

 

There are lawyers that specialize in representing the pr0n industry.  There are a couple of them that are really, really sharp, excellent lawyers.

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I’m just saying I’m sure he has plenty of money.  Not that he’s some pious motherfucker.  

Yeah I just got curious and saw that.  An involuntary bankruptcy, which is fairly rare, but this one didn't get dismissed and there were apparently a fairly large number of creditor already suing his firm for non-payment of bills.

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Yeah I just got curious and saw that.  An involuntary bankruptcy, which is fairly rare, but this one didn't get dismissed and there were apparently a fairly large number of creditor already suing his firm for non-payment of bills.

To be fair I can’t figure out if half the PI attorneys I know are living paycheck to paycheck or have 10M in the bank.  

 

Or both. Lol

I ‘member a couple 50k tabs in Miami.  

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