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WhatTheBuck

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47 minutes ago, South Austin said:

He was great in Adaptation.  Nominated for an Oscar.

That movie is brilliant.

I should add that it kind of makes me want to read the actual book even though the “adaptation” is certainly fictional. I’d kind of like to know just how fictional. Cage is great in a dual role.

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25 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Could’ve been worse. Could’ve been Michael J. Fox. 

That's why I've never seen Casualties of War.  Even with Sean Penn, I just couldn't imagine Michael J. Fox as a combat soldier serving in Vietnam.  Maybe because, unlike Charlie Sheen during Platoon, Fox was already best known for some pretty iconic comedic characters like Alex P. Keaton and Marty McFly. 

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18 minutes ago, South Austin said:

That's why I've never seen Casualties of War.  Even with Sean Penn, I just couldn't imagine Michael J. Fox as a combat soldier serving in Vietnam.  Maybe because, unlike Charlie Sheen during Platoon, Fox was already best known for some pretty iconic comedic characters like Alex P. Keaton and Marty McFly. 

I’ve seen it. You’re not missing anything. But I saw a parody sketch of it once, maybe on an old episode of SNL or somewhere else. I can’t remember. But it was pretty funny. Whoever did the Michael J. Fox impression was hilarious. 

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3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Three O’ClocK High would probably have been more successful with better casting. I’m not going to take the time to look up the cast on IMDb then search out photos and post them. But the protagonist was one of Biff Tannen’s posse from Back to the Future and his love interest was a friend of Ferris Bueller’s sister. Good story, underrated movie, but it could’ve been better. B-rated 80’s movie that could’ve been A-rated with better casting, imo. 

I thought Charlie Bowdre was a good fit for the protagonist role. Definitely an underrated movie. 

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I thought Charlie Bowdre was a good fit for the protagonist role. Definitely an underrated movie. 

Lulz. I own the DVD. I’ve watched it many times. The name doesn’t even ring a bell. It’s not that he was bad. I just think they could’ve done better. Like, say, Michael J. Fox.  :D

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4 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Lulz. I own the DVD. I’ve watched it many times. The name doesn’t even ring a bell. It’s not that he was bad. I just think they could’ve done better. Like, say, Michael J. Fox.  :D

The actor is Casey Siemaszko. He played Bowdre in Young Guns. 

I can see MJF as Jerry Mitchell but only if Charlie Sheen is Buddy Revell (based on his performance in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off).

 

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I liked Three O'Clock High.  Yeah, maybe a couple characters could've been cast better, but for a low-budget quirky 80s movie, I'm rather fond of it.

I thought Richard Tyson was great as Buddy Revell.  I hadn't seen him do shit until I saw this scene in There's Something About Mary, and said out loud in the theater, "Holy shit, that's Buddy Revell!"

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57 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I liked Three O'Clock High.  Yeah, maybe a couple characters could've been cast better, but for a low-budget quirky 80s movie, I'm rather fond of it.

I thought Richard Tyson was great as Buddy Revell.  I hadn't seen him do shit until I saw this scene in There's Something About Mary, and said out loud in the theater, "Holy shit, that's Buddy Revell!"

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Also Cullen Crisp

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I liked Three O'Clock High.  Yeah, maybe a couple characters could've been cast better, but for a low-budget quirky 80s movie, I'm rather fond of it.

I thought Richard Tyson was great as Buddy Revell.  I hadn't seen him do shit until I saw this scene in There's Something About Mary, and said out loud in the theater, "Holy shit, that's Buddy Revell!"

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He was great as Buddy Revell. He went on to do a little softcore porn. Maybe not X rated but really hard R (no pun intended).

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9 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Get Shorty is amazing in it’s ability to waste James Gandolfini 

It also wastes Gene Hackman and Danny DeVito.  It had a very special gift.  

BTW-when you go back and watch Gandolfini in "True Romance", obviously with the benefit of hindsight, there are a bunch of Tony Soprano glimpses there...even though he's only in a whopping 3 scenes.  

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16 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Get Shorty is amazing in it’s ability to waste James Gandolfini 

I disagree with this take. He played the role well. What were you expecting? For him to play the role of Chili Palmer because you liked the way he played Tony Soprano a decade later? Get real. He was fine in it. He wasn’t a big name when he took that job.

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It also wastes Gene Hackman and Danny DeVito.  It had a very special gift.  

BTW-when you go back and watch Gandolfini in "True Romance", obviously with the benefit of hindsight, there are a bunch of Tony Soprano glimpses there...even though he's only in a whopping 3 scenes.  

I also disagree with this take. Hackman and DeVito wasted? Wtf are you talking about? They were both great in it. Again, what were you expecting?

Saying you saw a glimpse of Tony Soprano in the way Gandolfini played a role is not a compliment. A compliment is saying you never saw a hint of one character in another. A prime example is the way Clarke Peters played Lester Freamon in The Wire and the way he played Big Chief Lambreaux in Treme. There was no resemblance between those two characters. That’s the mark of a really great actor. (For Wendell Pierce, otoh, whose work I love, you could see many similarities between Bunk and Antoine Batiste.)

Nothing wrong with the casting in Get Shorty. (Rene Russo...schwing!) The only thing bad about it was that the ending was kind of anticlimactic. It didn’t exactly suck but it wasn’t a slam dunk, either. If it had a better ending then I think it would’ve been more popular. I was surprised they made a sequel. I didn’t see it. I heard it really sucked.

The soundtrack to Get Shorty was great. You should buy the album. It’s excellent.

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I did by the album way back when.  I didn't say the casting was wrong.  I just think the two actors I mentioned were under utilized.  You're right, the point of the thread is the wrong person in the role, not that the casting overall was off.  It's a distinction with a slight difference.  It was still an enjoyable film and I miss Gene Hackman.  

Now a great script with good actors that was woefully miscast and everybody was in the wrong role delivering an unbelievably bad performance, hitting all the wrong notes was McCarthy's "The Counselor" It looked good, it felt good, it read good, the actors are all good.  But it just shit the bed twelve ways from Tuesday because everybody in it acted like they were in an alt.offbroadway production of who gives a fuck?

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9 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I disagree with this take. He played the role well. What were you expecting? For him to play the role of Chili Palmer because you liked the way he played Tony Soprano a decade later? Get real. He was fine in it. He wasn’t a big name when he took that job.

They had him play a southern toughie complete with an inconsistent accent. 

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56 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

They had him play a southern toughie complete with an inconsistent accent. 

Where was he described as being from the south? He was a stunt man living in L.A. and working as muscle for a two-bit mobster on the side while wearing Hawaiian shirts. I don’t recall him being portrayed as a “southern toughie,” which sounds kind of embarrassing. But if all you’re saying is true then he was miscast because he wasn’t up to the part. He failed as an actor. Is that what you’re saying? If so then the producers didn’t waste Gandolfini, he failed them.

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I’m not going through the thread, but Julia Roberts should not have been in Charlie Wilson’s War. That role seems like a gift bc she and Hanks are friends. Her accent sucks and she doesn’t seem like a wealthy Texan at all. 
 

As for hits from that same movie- Phillip Seymour Hoffmann was great. Excellent role for him

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My goodness, Hoffman was so damn wonderful in that film.  The son of a Greek soda pop maker.  RIP.  He was on maybe ten minutes of screen Time, if that.  And engulfed the entire movie. 

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Breaking Bad doesn’t work with any other person on earth as Walter White.  Cranston is the ONLY person who could have made that what it was.  Others I feel the same about:

Foster and Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs

Robbins and Freeman in Shawshank

 

In hindsight, the Star Wars prequel trilogy desperately needed a huge name (DiCaprio?) as Anakin Skywalker, as the only way it would have been possible to convince Lucas to do the rewrites necessary to have those films not suck would have been if the actor had been like “these lines suck and if you don’t rewrite them I’ll tank the movie.”

 

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On 5/17/2021 at 10:53 AM, closetohumping said:

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I thought both Duval and Jones could've switched roles and done an admirable job in Lonesome Dove.

Keanu Reeves should've been the lead in Malibu's Most Wanted.

 

On 5/17/2021 at 11:01 PM, formermav43 said:

I think Duval could have done a fine job with Call. I have a difficult time picturing Jones as Gus, though. 

 

On 5/17/2021 at 11:27 PM, closetohumping said:

Jones can certainly be charismatic.  JMO

 

On 5/18/2021 at 6:13 AM, formermav43 said:

It’s not that he can’t be charismatic. It’s that he lacks the joy and sense of humor required for Gus.

It’s like deja vu all over again.

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22 hours ago, Lobo said:

My goodness, Hoffman was so damn wonderful in that film.  The son of a Greek soda pop maker.  RIP.  He was on maybe ten minutes of screen Time, if that.  And engulfed the entire movie. 

PSH was perfect in pretty much every role he ever had. he was my absolute favorite actor and i still get sad knowing how much of his talent we were robbed of. 😕

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Barbara Hershey totally screwed up Hoosiers. Damn Scientologists. 

Think you have an issue with the writing and the character herself. She was a wet blanket the whole time, as written. Hershey was fine.

Interested notes about the movie: Hackman gave the director - David Anspaugh - a tough time throughout and initially the role was meant for Jack Nicholson.

Anspaugh went up to Jack months after the movie premiered and asked how the movie would have been had he played Coach Dale. Jack replied, “A mega hit, kid. It would have been a mega hit.”
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My goodness, Hoffman was so damn wonderful in that film.  The son of a Greek soda pop maker.  RIP.  He was on maybe ten minutes of screen Time, if that.  And engulfed the entire movie. 

He was fucking great.  You're also not paying attention if you think he was only on screen in that film for 10 minutes so let me explain to you the reasons that you're a douchebag:

Scene with his boss 

Scene in the lunch room after that where he gets the opportunity to go work on the Afghan desk

First scene in Wilson's office.

All that is probably 10-15 minute and we are barely into that movie. 

From there  they meet in the park with Mike Vickers, then there is the dinner meeting with Zvi, then the bellydance scene and the flight home (you did good ignoring the religious shit)

And on and on and on....he's all over that movie.

But my favorite scene

 

 

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My goodness, Hoffman was so damn wonderful in that film.  The son of a Greek soda pop maker.  RIP.  He was on maybe ten minutes of screen Time, if that.  And engulfed the entire movie. 

Go fuck yourself, you fucking child. 

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Breaking Bad doesn’t work with any other person on earth as Walter White.  Cranston is the ONLY person who could have made that what it was.  Others I feel the same about:

Foster and Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs

 

 

I'm necro-bumping this thread, as this is the first time I've skimmed through it. But I read about this the other day (also a very old article) pertinent to your post. Here's the letter Anthony Hopkins wrote to Bryan Cranston regarding his Walter White performance:

 

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“Dear Mister Cranston.

I wanted to write you this email – so I am contacting you through Jeremy Barber – I take it we are both represented by UTA . Great agency.

I’ve just finished a marathon of watching “BREAKING BAD” – from episode one of the First Season — to the last eight episodes of the Sixth Season. [Ed note: There are in fact five seasons of Breaking Bad; this might have been wishful thinking.] (I downloaded the last season on AMAZON) A total of two weeks (addictive) viewing.

I have never watched anything like it. Brilliant!

Your performance as Walter White was the best acting I have seen – ever.

I know there is so much smoke blowing and sickening bullshit in this business, and I’ve sort of lost belief in anything really.

But this work of yours is spectacular — absolutely stunning. What is extraordinary, is the sheer power of everyone in the entire production. What was it? Five or six years in the making? How the producers (yourself being one of them), the writers, directors, cinematographers…. every department — casting etc. managed to keep the discipline and control from beginning to the end is (that over used word) awesome.

From what started as a black comedy, descended into a labyrinth of blood, destruction and hell. It was like a great Jacobean, Shakespearian or Greek Tragedy.

If you ever get a chance to – would you pass on my admiration to everyone — Anna Gunn, Dean Norris, Aaron Paul, Betsy Brandt, R.J. Mitte, Bob Odenkirk, Jonathan Banks, Steven Michael Quezada — everyone —everyone gave master classes of performance … The list is endless.

Thank you. That kind of work/artistry is rare, and when, once in a while, it occurs, as in this epic work, it restores confidence.

You and all the cast are the best actors I’ve ever seen.

That may sound like a good lung full of smoke blowing. But it is not. It’s almost midnight out here in Malibu, and I felt compelled to write this email.

Congratulations and my deepest respect. You are truly a great, great actor.

Best regards

Tony Hopkins.”

 

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Binged that 5-6 months ago and really enjoyed it. 

We rebinge it every summer before football. We’re in S4 at present. It is our favorite series ever.

Jesus I didn’t see how old this fucker was. In response to Justified..,

I like the life of Raylan but I’d have likely kept Ava Crowder over Winona.

Mary Steenburgen about to be up. She has aged fine as wine. She is married to Ted Danson. My wife will always say “she puts a dick that was in Whoopi Goldberg in her mouth! That thing wouldn’t get near me ever!”
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In a small role, Hoffman eclipsed everyone else in Cold Mountain, a pretty good film. I even liked the way he flagged the late arriving “enemy” storm chasers in Twister like a deranged 3rd base coach windmilling his arm, signaling a baserunner to take home: “LOser! LOser! LOser”

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Here’s an unpopular opinion

Diane Keaton was miscast in The Godfather. She sucked in my opinion. That whiny screeching voice.

I think it was purposeful. You see her get treated shabbily and awkward, discarded, then Michael reappears and she’s like an old maid wearing a ridiculous dress. She’s in wtf mode the whole time. Gets shut out to end the movie.

In episode II she gets more scenes, finally’s had enough and put out a hit on Michael’s unborn son. She’s an outcast and once again gets the door shut in her face.

She’s fine. She did what she was supposed to and grew as a character.
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