Texas AD Chris Del Conte

[Deej 76836]

8 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

CDC and Hartzell say, "Sarkisian was thoroughly vetted". What, exactly, does that mean and what did the vetting process entail? Did we hire a private detective to tail him for a couple of weeks to ensure sobriety?

They had a long talk with his sponsor.

[dcar00 14282]

13 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The guy we wanted said no. 

Everyone else would be a coin flip.

 

I was trying to be kind.  he's less than a coin flip(as would be some others) and includes red flags but whatever. same ol' same ol'.  we hired the hot coordinator.  maybe it will work out.

[mdmost 43004]

Same ol' same ol' is hiring the hot G5 coach like Fickell. This is 1951 territory with hiring a guy who's been a coordinator most recently. 

[Valmy77 13247]

29 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Same ol' same ol' is hiring the hot G5 coach like Fickell. This is 1951 territory with hiring a guy who's been a coordinator most recently. 

At least Ed Price won the conference.

[stork642 4498]

3 hours ago, RollLeft said:

Hey CDC.  Just let Sark know that Charlie and Tom fkd up their initial OC hires.  Help him not do that.  Also don't hire Stoops.  Please tell coach to call Ewers and if a call to Tommy Brock would be good.  Also lets recruit SEC states for d line talent.

Sarks most important hire will be defense coordinator.  If he gets that right he’s gonna be good.  

[Royal With Cheese 3]

4 minutes ago, stork642 said:

Sarks most important hire will be defense coordinator.  If he gets that right he’s gonna be good.  

Maybe.

[Augustus 3061]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

They had a long talk with his sponsor.

Laughed out loud.

I would never give my potential employer my sponsor's number.

[Helobious 9462]

I’ll never in my life be impressed again by coaches giving good answers at press conferences, practice reports, or reports/videos of strength & conditioning workouts. Win some fucking games.

[Napoleon 8690]

25 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I’ll never in my life be impressed again by coaches giving good answers at press conferences, practice reports, or reports/videos of strength & conditioning workouts. Win some fucking games.

Yes, press conferences are kind of worthless for new hires unless they tell you specifically who their assistant coaching hires are going to be and whether they are going to run a 4-3 or a 3-4. Nothing that couldn't be learned outside of a tweet.

[perfectchaos007 6675]

Sark said all the right things but so did our last two hires. Strong preached of cleansing the program of guys with poor ethical standards, and we all applauded the purge of players with "Mack brown stink" only to see Strong lead the team to 3 consecutive losing seasons culminating with one of the program's most embarrassing losses in its 100+ year storied history in a loss to Kansas. Then we bring in Herman who promised to bring Texas "back", and we all felt this Mensa member, if nothing else, would be a great schemer and smart game day coach. Instead he opens his tenure at Texas with an embarrasing home loss to Maryland which ultimately set the tone for the next 4 years. 

What's concerning the most to me is that Strong and Herman's odds of success seemed like 6 sided di where at least 4 of those sides were winners, yet we crapped out on both. Sark is a coin flip, and I feel less confident about him than I did with Strong and Herman to bring Texas back to an annual conference contender. I sincerely hope for the best and Sark leads us to our first Big 12 championship since 2009 by 2024 but yeah...I need to see some wins on the field before I start to believe. Only way he'll win over Longhorn fans is by winning on the field as opposed to preaching about culture like the last two hires were able to get away with from the start. 

[Valmy77 13247]

7 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Sark said all the right things but so did our last two hires.

Assistant coach hires speak louder than words. That is how he will win over UT fans. Hell the last two guys had tons of the fanbase bailing on them on this alone, long before they were losing to Maryland or getting blown out by BYU.

[Royal With Cheese 3]

14 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Assistant coach hires speak louder than words. That is how he will win over UT fans. Hell the last two guys had tons of the fanbase bailing on them on this alone, long before they were losing to Maryland or getting blown out by BYU.

Mack Brown was the coach getting blown out by BYU, not Strong or Herman.

Edited January 3, 2021 by Royal With Cheese

[Valmy77 13247]

10 minutes ago, Royal With Cheese said:

Mack Brown was the coach getting blown out by BYU, not Strong or Herman.

Wrong. Strong got blown out by BYU in his secind game. I was specifically mentioning thier first losses.

But Strong got blown out so many times I don't blame you for getting confused.

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

34 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Sark said all the right things but so did our last two hires.

Did you actually listen to Charlie’s introductory press conference?  He seemed...overwhelmed by it all. 

[kevwun 15803]

3 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Assistant coach hires speak louder than words. That is how he will win over UT fans. Hell the last two guys had tons of the fanbase bailing on them on this alone, long before they were losing to Maryland or getting blown out by BYU.

Yeah, if he hires the staff that has been rumored, we're probably going to be ok as long as he doesn't relapse.  If he understands that the biggest advantage about coaching at a big name school is using the money to hire great coordinators and position coaches instead of your pals, then there is hope.  The names on that list would weaponize Texas recruiting maybe to a level even beyond peak Mack Brown.

Edited January 3, 2021 by kevwun

[Revolution512 1490]

You can convince yourself of anything. The truth is Texas made their worst hire since David McWilliams, this time it cost a fortune 

[kevwun 15803]

It's very likely to end in spectacular failure with Sark and CDC being fired, but there are also scenarios where it works out.  Like he stays sober, hires a good staff and we finally start recruiting like the NCAA is a toothless organization that doesn't actually enforce any of it's own rules.  I can see a path to victory.  I don't think it's particularly likely, but it's there and at least I never had to look at Tom Herman in a Texas shirt again.

Edited January 3, 2021 by kevwun

[GhostOfTomJoad 9336]

6 hours ago, stork642 said:

Sarks most important hire will be defense coordinator.  If he gets that right he’s gonna be good.  

 

According to the coach all of Surly was clamoring for, this is wrong. Urb was very vocal about the most important component to long term success was an elite S&C coach/staff. 

[EZ$ 2105]

6 hours ago, Helobious said:

I’ll never in my life be impressed again by coaches giving good answers at press conferences, practice reports, or reports/videos of strength & conditioning workouts. Win some fucking games.

Well, Charlie’s first press conference immediately threw up red flags. 

[Rudiger 1163]

Paraphrasing some posters:

I think this is a terrible hire, but if we can score more points than the other team in all  our games, it’ll be a good hire. 
 

Reality: this is a terrible hire, and Sark’s W-L record would be even uglier if he hadn’t had Jake Locker.

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

10 hours ago, RollLeft said:

Hey CDC.  Just let Sark know that Charlie and Tom fkd up their initial OC hires.  Help him not do that.  Also don't hire Stoops.  Please tell coach to call Ewers and if a call to Tommy Brock would be good.  Also lets recruit SEC states for d line talent.

Sark will operate like Lincoln Riley. So I think our staff makeup will be like at OU. 

[Horn80 6130]

4 hours ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

Did you actually listen to Charlie’s introductory press conference?  He seemed...overwhelmed by it all. 

That was my huge oh shit moment in my gut that Texas hired the wrong guy with Strong followed by his numerous bad loses, and for Herman it was when he sledge hammered the locker room which told me he had wrong priorities from the start followed by his loss to Maryland at home.  

[RollLeft 5045]

1 hour ago, Revolution512 said:

You can convince yourself of anything. The truth is Texas made their worst hire since David McWilliams, this time, like always, it cost a fortune  me NOTHING and few people, willing to part with it, their money.  

fify

[bschoolprof 6264]

6 hours ago, Helobious said:

I’ll never in my life be impressed again by coaches giving good answers at press conferences, practice reports, or reports/videos of strength & conditioning workouts. Win some fucking games.

you'll be alone.  The fanbois love to jizz their shorts over this stuff.  

[immamac 42868]

You guys do realize that the whole Texas job is fuckstomp everyone but OU and maybe an OOC game with pure talent advantage and in 3 maybe 4 games a year actually coaching well and making in game adjustments. 

If they just let the best players play with simple plays it would be better than what Herman was doing. Sark knows how to play with elite talent and he knows what to expect with elite talent. He coached the NFL and Sabans NFL like squads. He knows how to make playmakers playmakers. The rest will take care of itself. 

[Newy25 7695]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

You guys do realize that the whole Texas job is fuckstomp everyone but OU and maybe an OOC game with pure talent advantage and in 3 maybe 4 games a year actually coaching well and making in game adjustments. 

If they just let the best players play with simple plays it would be better than what Herman was doing. Sark knows how to play with elite talent and he knows what to expect with elite talent. He coached the NFL and Sabans NFL like squads. He knows how to make playmakers playmakers. The rest will take care of itself. 

I always joked around when I told people most of this job is hiring competent assistant coaches and just unleashing the recruiting machine. This is sadly something Herman and Strong could not do. Just avoid stepping on your own dick with Watson, Orlando or whomever and a lot of this takes care of itself. 

[immamac 42868]

6 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I always joked around when I told people most of this job is hiring competent assistant coaches and just unleashing the recruiting machine. This is sadly something Herman and Strong could not do. Just avoid stepping on your own dick with Watson, Orlando or whomever and a lot of this takes care of itself. 

This is why mack did well until he didn't. We want mack 2.0, excluding the manic depressive mack era that is 2010+. He didn't suck until he checked out. We need not checked out mack brown 2.0, that's a bar I think Sark can meet. 

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

This is why mack did well until he didn't. We want mack 2.0, excluding the manic depressive mack era that is 2010+. He didn't suck until he checked out. We need not checked out mack brown 2.0, that's a bar I think Sark can meet. 

It’s what every great coach does well to be honest. Saban, Dabo, Mack, etc. Sark even mentioned this yesterday when he talked about when he was younger he thought he had to do it all himself but learned from Saban and NFL if you hire the best you can and let them do their jobs then it will all work itself out. 

[TwiceHorn 31505]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s what every great coach does well to be honest. Saban, Dabo, Mack, etc. Sark even mentioned this yesterday when he talked about when he was younger he thought he had to do it all himself but learned from Saban and NFL if you hire the best you can and let them do their jobs then it will all work itself out. 

I have posted my thoughts elsewhere, but yes, his ups and downs are invaluable experience that neither Strong nor Herman had.

And, while we're all rightfully concerned about his alcohol problems, few probably understand what recovery means in terms of losing arrogance and accepting lessons and wisdom from others.

[Wulaw Horn 19120]

1 hour ago, Horn80 said:

That was my huge oh shit moment in my gut that Texas hired the wrong guy with Strong followed by his numerous bad loses, and for Herman it was when he sledge hammered the locker room which told me he had wrong priorities from the start followed by his loss to Maryland at home.  

Nah man. It was hiring Casey Horny and his entire staff of G5 has beens and never wases 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Wulaw Horn

[Wulaw Horn 19120]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

You guys do realize that the whole Texas job is fuckstomp everyone but OU and maybe an OOC game with pure talent advantage and in 3 maybe 4 games a year actually coaching well and making in game adjustments. 

If they just let the best players play with simple plays it would be better than what Herman was doing. Sark knows how to play with elite talent and he knows what to expect with elite talent. He coached the NFL and Sabans NFL like squads. He knows how to make playmakers playmakers. The rest will take care of itself. 

So what your saying is maybe, just maybe, winning isn’t hard?  Like give the ball to Bijan 15 times a game against TCU instead of sitting around smelling your own farts and maybe we win in a 21 point yawner and don’t leave open the possibility to fumble on the goal line in the last minute?  Because we have way more talent at UT. 

No way man. Winning is hard. I can’t imagine what you are saying could possibly be true. Except maybe for the smartest man in the world. Like Mack Brown. Who had this exact recipe. 

[IDIOTsavant 8498]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

This is why mack did well until he didn't. We want mack 2.0, excluding the manic depressive mack era that is 2010+. He didn't suck until he checked out. We need not checked out mack brown 2.0, that's a bar I think Sark can meet. 

 

[Horn80 6130]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Nah man. It was hiring Casey Horny and his entire staff of G5 has beens and never wases 

Good point but those were just my oh shit moments.

[Fudge Nuggets 19207]

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

if you hire the best you can and let them do their jobs then it will all work itself out. 

So we’re taking the handcuffs off the bagmen?  I’m good with that 

[RomaVicta 29935]

3 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Nah man. It was hiring Casey Horny and his entire staff of G5 has beens and never wases 

I didn't predict Herman would fail. I thought it was a promising hire in what is almost always a crapshoot. 

Cockiness proved to be hubris in the cases above. His kissing the players in public was another quibble. I liked the sentiment he expressed for why he did this; I just didn't understand why the moment needed to be done for cameras. 

To the point above, I think Strong and Herman both erred terribly and understandably by keeping a comfortable group around themselves. Orlando provided a fools gold season. I do wonder if Herman will have a path like Sarkision. He could learn from his mistakes; I don't know if he can break the horrible tendency to not kick field goals and the other one where he starts running out the clock in the third quarter.

Herman does leave some ham on the bone (DKR said that about the team he was leaving for next guy).

Short of Meyer, there was no sure thing. Some pretty smart people on this thread sound like voters when polled long before a presidential election.

Would you choose to stay with President Encumbent or vote for someone (unknown) from the other party?

The encumbent always loses those polls because, I believe, the voter is allowed to imagine some ideal candidate who doesn't actually exist.

For what it's worth, I'm good with the gamble on Sarkision. He evidently turned down Auburn and other offers looking for the right fit. We're not the only ones who think he just might work out. 

Some proud cynic above dismissed the optimistic as fanbois. I'm optimistic. If I were not, I wouldn't enjoy watching the games. I'd rather take pleasure in hoping for the best rather than defending a pessimistic prediction for years and then feelilng all smug if I turn out to be right. I'll save my venom for Sarkision and CDC until some evidence develops.

In the meantime, Hook 'Em!, my friends.

Edited January 3, 2021 by RomaVicta

[Nivek 16945]

So I watched his zoom introduction.  It was fine.  I don't care about the booze issues.   I do care about his past record as a HC.  Graduating Nick Saban's coaching career rehab is great, but I think he should take a lesser job and demonstrate that success before Texas looks at him.    Not fucking up the press conference shouldn't be the standard.

[taybo20 2877]

1 minute ago, Nivek said:

So I watched his zoom introduction.  It was fine.  I don't care about the booze issues.   I do care about his past record as a HC.  Graduating Nick Saban's coaching career rehab is great, but I think he should take a lesser job and demonstrate that success before Texas looks at him.    Not fucking up the press conference shouldn't be the standard.

Of course it shouldn’t be the standard. No one is saying it is. But his coaching ability was good enough to get him the job at USC before alcoholism destroyed it. So if you want to talk coaching ability, let’s talk then. And bring up guys you would have wanted instead with the resume you expect, and leave UM out of this discussion. 

[RomaVicta 29935]

3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

So I watched his zoom introduction.  It was fine.  I don't care about the booze issues.   I do care about his past record as a HC.  Graduating Nick Saban's coaching career rehab is great, but I think he should take a lesser job and demonstrate that success before Texas looks at him.    Not fucking up the press conference shouldn't be the standard.

It's not, but it's all we got so far in this fait accompli.

 

[jTower 229]

4 hours ago, immamac said:

You guys do realize that the whole Texas job is fuckstomp everyone but OU and maybe an OOC game with pure talent advantage and in 3 maybe 4 games a year actually coaching well and making in game adjustments. 

If they just let the best players play with simple plays it would be better than what Herman was doing. Sark knows how to play with elite talent and he knows what to expect with elite talent. He coached the NFL and Sabans NFL like squads. He knows how to make playmakers playmakers. The rest will take care of itself. 

[mwaadeeb 1223]

CDC should get more credit for making the change, when there were a lot of people here saying we should just stick with Herman. That was untenable and he knew it and made the decision and landed Sark. There was no better candidate out there, all considered. Hindsight may judge that differently, but there's not a single guy out there that looks any better today, and certainly nobody with a higher ceiling IMO.

Edited January 3, 2021 by mwaadeeb

[BradInATX 9208]

So what your saying is maybe, just maybe, winning isn’t hard?  Like give the ball to Bijan 15 times a game against TCU instead of sitting around smelling your own farts and maybe we win in a 21 point yawner and don’t leave open the possibility to fumble on the goal line in the last minute?  Because we have way more talent at UT. 
No way man. Winning is hard. I can’t imagine what you are saying could possibly be true. Except maybe for the smartest man in the world. Like Mack Brown. Who had this exact recipe. 

Herman has definitely given me an appreciation for Mack's ability to get all of his best players on the field and with the ball in their hands. Sure, half the time it was bubble screens, but still

[RollLeft 5045]

2 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

CDC should get more credit for making the change, when there were a lot of people here saying we should just stick with Herman. That was untenable and he knew it and made the decision. There was no better candidate out there than Sark all considered. Hindsight may judge that differently, but there's not a single guy out there that looks any better today.

It's noted Chris.  Have a good day.  Thanks again for the reduced beer prices.

[Hagbard Celine 10874]

48 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

So we’re taking the handcuffs off the bagmen?  I’m good with that 

if we do this, the whole thing works

[PDX_Horn 24]

4 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

if we do this, the whole thing works

Let’s get to work. 

[Wulaw Horn 19120]

32 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

3 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

So what your saying is maybe, just maybe, winning isn’t hard?  Like give the ball to Bijan 15 times a game against TCU instead of sitting around smelling your own farts and maybe we win in a 21 point yawner and don’t leave open the possibility to fumble on the goal line in the last minute?  Because we have way more talent at UT. 
No way man. Winning is hard. I can’t imagine what you are saying could possibly be true. Except maybe for the smartest man in the world. Like Mack Brown. Who had this exact recipe. 

Herman has definitely given me an appreciation for Mack's ability to get all of his best players on the field and with the ball in their hands. Sure, half the time it was bubble screens, but still

Yeah- Mack made the easy look easy. I’m the same way Bonny Bowden did at FSU. When you have an overwhelming talent advantage overwhelm them. 
shit really shouldn’t be considered hard but Herman never figured it out. I don’t know what Strong was doing but I think it’s avant- garde performance art and it was spectacular. 
I’d have preferred to see it at OU or Bama or some such. 

[DanTheHorn 4936]

13 hours ago, stork642 said:

Sarks most important hire will be defense coordinator.  If he gets that right he’s gonna be good.  

None of us know if this guy is going to be any good. Best predictor of the future is the past and his coaching record is worse than Herman's. Yet I was on the anybody but Herman train. 

[TwiceHorn 31505]

I hate to break it to everyone that thinks because of his prior association and endorsement of bag men and that type of cheating, Sarkisian is going to be all for it here.

He might, he might not.  But a part of his recovery is doing "right" things.  Now, that permits some leeway on absolute moralism, but his past performance in that area may not be a good indicator of the future.

[David Dennison 18924]

2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

So we’re taking the handcuffs off the bagmen?  I’m good with that 

Absolutely. Moreover, given its resources, the University of Texas should be leading the movement to pay players.

[gmr548 16580]

6 hours ago, Helobious said:

I’ll never in my life be impressed again by coaches giving good answers at press conferences, practice reports, or reports/videos of strength & conditioning workouts. Win some fucking games.

Right? This site busted a nut over Herman's intro. Any coach would be saying the things Sark is. First test is filling out the staff and limiting attrition from the roster. Then we'll see what things look like in spring ball. Then W-L record. That's it. 

[gmr548 16580]

8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I hate to break it to everyone that thinks because of his prior association and endorsement of bag men and that type of cheating, Sarkisian is going to be all for it here.

He might, he might not.  But a part of his recovery is doing "right" things.  Now, that permits some leeway on absolute moralism, but his past performance in that area may not be a good indicator of the future.

I mean, he's been recruiting for Alabama the past two years.