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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

The $500,000 in 4 years number jumped out at me as well. I assume she must have also taken home some of the cut. That is either some high volume work, or it is some high class work, and probably a little of both. Let's say she took home 1/3 of the revenue. That's $250,000. So, $750,000/4 is $188k/year. If she worked every night of the year, that's $515/night. That's not realistic, so go with 1/3 of the nights per year. She's bringing in $1600 a date. I'm not familiar with Escortland, but I assume even for the Manhattan footprint, $1600 for the date means she's got to be worth it and probably smoking hot to boot. 

There, with that logic posted out there on the Internet, I'm sure an expert will sprint here immediately to tell me why that's wrong, which is all I'm looking for here. You assume she was working a real job and we're not talking about a hooker on a corner. Maybe it was once a week and she was banking $3600 or something. I don't know. How hot or non-hot does she sound to one of the degenerate prostitution aficionados of this board?

This is what I come here for.  

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1 hour ago, Dennis Taylor said:

In 2014, Claudia began working as an escort under a nom de guerre that was a combination of Larry’s daughters’ names. Her website advertised services for $8,000 a night. She would give her profits to Larry in order to pay for the damage she believed she’d done in North Carolina.

 

 that is from the really long article linked upthread. seems kinda excessive 

Perhaps she was a pegger?  Don't they charge more?  Where is @NowThis when we need him?

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23 hours ago, closetojumping said:

The $500,000 in 4 years number jumped out at me as well. I assume she must have also taken home some of the cut. That is either some high volume work, or it is some high class work, and probably a little of both. Let's say she took home 1/3 of the revenue. That's $250,000. So, $750,000/4 is $188k/year. If she worked every night of the year, that's $515/night. That's not realistic, so go with 1/3 of the nights per year. She's bringing in $1600 a date. I'm not familiar with Escortland, but I assume even for the Manhattan footprint, $1600 for the date means she's got to be worth it and probably smoking hot to boot. 

There, with that logic posted out there on the Internet, I'm sure an expert will sprint here immediately to tell me why that's wrong, which is all I'm looking for here. You assume she was working a real job and we're not talking about a hooker on a corner. Maybe it was once a week and she was banking $3600 or something. I don't know. How hot or non-hot does she sound to one of the degenerate prostitution aficionados of this board?

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If I did nothing else right in life, I raised a daughter who would immediately recognize this guy's game, and find a way to kick his ass. She's at Texas State, and I've never been happier about that, now that I've read this horror story. I wouldn't be surprised if she and her roommates  pimp a string of middle aged men. Save me some money on tuition and books.

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26 minutes ago, 1leggedduck said:

If I did nothing else right in life, I raised a daughter who would immediately recognize this guy's game, and find a way to kick his ass. She's at Texas State, and I've never been happier about that, now that I've read this horror story. I wouldn't be surprised if she and her roommates  pimp a string of middle aged men. Save me some money on tuition and books.

has she appeared in the thread

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On 2/12/2020 at 1:11 PM, Armybrat said:

Charlie Manson & Vernon Howell took it a bit further.

Listened to a pretty interesting interview on NPR or Fresh air about Manson.  The guy being  interviewed had written a book about the trial, and the lawyers. The lawyers (Bugliosi in particular I believe) were/was none to happy about the book.

He made some claims that Manson had been involved some CIA programs about mind control, and may have learned a thing or two about how to do it pretty damned well.

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Some of y'all are under the impression that a ho gets to keep some of "her" money.

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"It's like trying to explain astrophysics to a wino," Rosebudd tells the Hughes Brothers in the film. And indeed, much of what goes on between hos and pimps seems, gulp, hard to swallow. The way the Hughes Brothers and Rosebudd lay it out, a pimp is a fella who has any number of women on the street working for him. He sets a ho up with an apartment, advises her on the rules of "the stroll" where she works and provides her a minimal amount of protection. In return, the ho gives the pimp all of the money she earns.

 

Wait a second, Rosebudd -- all of the money?

"It's not about money with a ho and a pimp," explains Rosebudd. "See, a ho has completely detached herself from money. That's why she has no problem giving the money to the pimp. What the pimp offers the ho is someone she can communicate with honestly. Any other man is going to see her as a ho first. A pimp is the only one who can accept this woman having sex with someone else and still see her as a desirable woman."

But don't they even get an allowance? How do they live without money? It sounds incredible, but a ho does not get a cut of her take for the night. Every penny goes to her man, the pimp.

"Check it out," says Rosebudd. "She comes home with $480 a night, and I take all of it. And I don't even spend the night with her. Tomorrow, if I didn't do it before I left, I got to come over and give her $25 or so because she needs it for hamburgers, rubbers, whatever. That's mad money. That's not 'her percentage.' Just money for her to take care of business.

"After a certain amount of time, say seven or eight months, I might give her $200 every now and then to go shopping. If she doesn't agree with my rules, she has no leg to stand on, because I'm not changing. She can either straighten up and be cool, or she can leave -- go and choose somebody else to get with."

 

 

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Couldn’t find anything on this on the Movies & TV forum, three part doc is oh Hulu. Ep 1 a little slow, but picks up, Ep 2 disturbing as hell. Actual audio and video from the freak is used, he’s such a narcissist, he provided them to the filmmakers. It’s just preposterous to think this could happen.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/02/larry-ray-sarah-lawrence-sex-cult

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In 2005, five years before he moved into his daughter’s dorm at Sarah Lawrence College and took a cult-like hold over her young friends, Larry Ray received a psychological evaluation. It was conducted as part of a custody trial with Ray’s ex-wife, and the judgment was alarming.

“It is literally impossible to evaluate Mr. Ray in the usual clinical manner,” concluded the evaluator. “His personality dynamics are so configured that he is able to manipulate and control almost any situation in which he finds himself, including a psychological interview with a forensic examiner, no matter how experienced that examiner may be. Mr. Ray is very good at what [he] does.”

The report, which is uncovered in Hulu’s new three-part docuseries Stolen Youth: Inside the Cult at Sarah Lawrence, goes on to call Ray a “calculating, manipulative, and hostile man who masks his hostility, presenting instead a boyish, charming façade.”

The summary proved prophetic in 2010, when Ray began posing as a mentor to his daughter’s college-age friends and brainwashing them. He systematically isolated them from their families and friends, pressured them into degrading and sometimes sexual scenarios, controlled what they ate and to whom they spoke, and ultimately exploited them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 

In Stolen Youth, a group of Ray’s followers sit down with Oscar-nominated filmmaker Zach Heinzerling (Cutie and the Boxer) to retrace their traumatic journey with Ray—revealing how, bit by bit, they fell under Ray’s bizarre spell.

“I think in cult situations, there can be judgment of the victim—how could you fall for that?” Heinzerling tells Vanity Fair.“There’s no acknowledgement of the complicated nature of that experience.” The survivors were willing to open up on camera to bridge that knowledge gap, says the filmmaker—“to explain what happened, what it was like to be 19 and introduced to your girlfriend’s dad or your friend’s dad. And how, over a slow, methodical progression, it metastasized into something horrible.”

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2 hours ago, Vito Andolini said:

Couldn’t find anything on this on the Movies & TV forum, three part doc is oh Hulu. Ep 1 a little slow, but picks up, Ep 2 disturbing as hell. Actual audio and video from the freak is used, he’s such a narcissist, he provided them to the filmmakers. It’s just preposterous to think this could happen.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/02/larry-ray-sarah-lawrence-sex-cult

From the article:

In 2005, five years before he moved into his daughter’s dorm at Sarah Lawrence College and took a cult-like hold over her young friends, Larry Ray received a psychological evaluation. It was conducted as part of a custody trial with Ray’s ex-wife, and the judgment was alarming.

“It is literally impossible to evaluate Mr. Ray in the usual clinical manner,” concluded the evaluator. “His personality dynamics are so configured that he is able to manipulate and control almost any situation in which he finds himself, including a psychological interview with a forensic examiner, no matter how experienced that examiner may be. Mr. Ray is very good at what [he] does.”

The report, which is uncovered in Hulu’s new three-part docuseries Stolen Youth: Inside the Cult at Sarah Lawrence, goes on to call Ray a “calculating, manipulative, and hostile man who masks his hostility, presenting instead a boyish, charming façade.”

The summary proved prophetic in 2010, when Ray began posing as a mentor to his daughter’s college-age friends and brainwashing them. He systematically isolated them from their families and friends, pressured them into degrading and sometimes sexual scenarios, controlled what they ate and to whom they spoke, and ultimately exploited them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 

In Stolen Youth, a group of Ray’s followers sit down with Oscar-nominated filmmaker Zach Heinzerling (Cutie and the Boxer) to retrace their traumatic journey with Ray—revealing how, bit by bit, they fell under Ray’s bizarre spell.

“I think in cult situations, there can be judgment of the victim—how could you fall for that?” Heinzerling tells Vanity Fair.“There’s no acknowledgement of the complicated nature of that experience.” The survivors were willing to open up on camera to bridge that knowledge gap, says the filmmaker—“to explain what happened, what it was like to be 19 and introduced to your girlfriend’s dad or your friend’s dad. And how, over a slow, methodical progression, it metastasized into something horrible.”

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3 hours ago, Vito Andolini said:

The summary proved prophetic in 2010, when Ray began posing as a mentor to his daughter’s college-age friends and brainwashing them. He systematically isolated them from their families and friends, pressured them into degrading and sometimes sexual scenarios, controlled what they ate and to whom they spoke, and ultimately exploited them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 

I feel like this asshole was qualified to be an instructor at Andrew Tate's "Hustler University"

https://tateshustlers.com/

 

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On 2/12/2020 at 7:25 PM, Dennis Taylor said:

In 2014, Claudia began working as an escort under a nom de guerre that was a combination of Larry’s daughters’ names. Her website advertised services for $8,000 a night. She would give her profits to Larry in order to pay for the damage she believed she’d done in North Carolina.

 

 that is from the really long article linked upthread. seems kinda excessive 


bullshit alert, no one is getting $8000 for pussy 

 

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On 2/12/2023 at 8:50 AM, Vito Andolini said:

Couldn’t find anything on this on the Movies & TV forum, three part doc is oh Hulu. Ep 1 a little slow, but picks up, Ep 2 disturbing as hell. Actual audio and video from the freak is used, he’s such a narcissist, he provided them to the filmmakers. It’s just preposterous to think this could happen.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/02/larry-ray-sarah-lawrence-sex-cult

From the article:

In 2005, five years before he moved into his daughter’s dorm at Sarah Lawrence College and took a cult-like hold over her young friends, Larry Ray received a psychological evaluation. It was conducted as part of a custody trial with Ray’s ex-wife, and the judgment was alarming.

“It is literally impossible to evaluate Mr. Ray in the usual clinical manner,” concluded the evaluator. “His personality dynamics are so configured that he is able to manipulate and control almost any situation in which he finds himself, including a psychological interview with a forensic examiner, no matter how experienced that examiner may be. Mr. Ray is very good at what [he] does.”

The report, which is uncovered in Hulu’s new three-part docuseries Stolen Youth: Inside the Cult at Sarah Lawrence, goes on to call Ray a “calculating, manipulative, and hostile man who masks his hostility, presenting instead a boyish, charming façade.”

The summary proved prophetic in 2010, when Ray began posing as a mentor to his daughter’s college-age friends and brainwashing them. He systematically isolated them from their families and friends, pressured them into degrading and sometimes sexual scenarios, controlled what they ate and to whom they spoke, and ultimately exploited them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 

In Stolen Youth, a group of Ray’s followers sit down with Oscar-nominated filmmaker Zach Heinzerling (Cutie and the Boxer) to retrace their traumatic journey with Ray—revealing how, bit by bit, they fell under Ray’s bizarre spell.

“I think in cult situations, there can be judgment of the victim—how could you fall for that?” Heinzerling tells Vanity Fair.“There’s no acknowledgement of the complicated nature of that experience.” The survivors were willing to open up on camera to bridge that knowledge gap, says the filmmaker—“to explain what happened, what it was like to be 19 and introduced to your girlfriend’s dad or your friend’s dad. And how, over a slow, methodical progression, it metastasized into something horrible.”

More in the link.

I just started this tonight. At the beginning there is a trigger warning about the themes being discussed. I’ve always thought those were ridiculous. About halfway through the first episode I realized that I should not be watching this and that trigger warning was for me. This brought back a ton of repressed shit. That guy is a monster. He would be great in a sales role. 

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