Kyler Murray - The Savior or Satan of OU Football

[mr.goodkat 464]

1 hour ago, Scholz said:

If he's smart, he'll play baseball (can play much longer, guaranteed money, no long term CTE issues).  We'll see if he's smart.

he went aggy first  and then ou . intelligence level has been exposed . 

[Scholz 11938]

Just now, mr.goodkat said:

he went aggy first  and then ou . intelligence level has been exposed . 

Valid

[Lloyd Christmas 119]

Whoever runs that offense in 18 will be a very happy qb.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

59 minutes ago, Lloyd Christmas said:

Whoever runs that offense in 18 will be a very happy qb.

I don't know.  Having to face that Mike Stoops defense every day in practice is a beating.

[McNelly 60]

[kevwun 15764]

Bregman is somewhere between 5'10" and 5'11" if I was a betting man.

Edited May 10, 2018 by kevwun

[Lhorn 4911]

9 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Bregman is somewhere between 5'10" and 5'11" if I was a betting man.

Murray makes Atulve look like Ralph Sampson 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

20 hours ago, shakahorn said:

Serious question, does he have all 5 tools?  Cuz I can only think of one player in MLB shorter than 6' who can hit for power.

Did Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, or Mickey Mantle have enough power for you?  All under 6'.

Current guys?  Altus, Francisco Lindor, Bregman, Khris Davis, Yoenis Cespedes, Brian Dozier, Mookie Betts, Rougned Odor, Pedroia, etc.

[futureman 22444]

18 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Did Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, or Mickey Mantle have enough power for you?  All under 6'.

Current guys?  Altus, Francisco Lindor, Bregman, Khris Davis, Yoenis Cespedes, Brian Dozier, Mookie Betts, Rougned Odor, Pedroia, etc.

no no, you’re mistaken.  there’s only one. 

[Lloyd Christmas 119]

5 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

I don't know.  Having to face that Mike Stoops defense every day in practice is a beating.

True, they havent been all that great. But the talent from the 17 class (and we hope the 18 class) will show through.    They have been recruiting really well on D the past couple classes, and it will start to show.   I'm really looking forward to seeing how good Radley-Hiles will be for OU.   Their best db recruit since i dont know when.

[Sawbonz 27540]

Fuck OU 

[Rick Blaine 30]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Fuck OU 

That is all. Over and out.

[Bullneck 19073]

5 hours ago, kevwun said:

Bregman is somewhere between 5'10" and 5'11" if I was a betting man.

He's shorter than a sawed off midget with no legs.

[Jkwellborn 6690]

no no, you’re mistaken.  there’s only one. 

Connor mccloud. Of the clan mccloud.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

3 hours ago, Lloyd Christmas said:

True, they havent been all that great. But the talent from the 17 class (and we hope the 18 class) will show through.    They have been recruiting really well on D the past couple classes, and it will start to show.   I'm really looking forward to seeing how good Radley-Hiles will be for OU.   Their best db recruit since i dont know when.

It won’t matter. Mike Stoops is awful. And his head coach runs a system that kills defenses. 

[Lloyd Christmas 119]

14 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

It won’t matter. Mike Stoops is awful. And his head coach runs a system that kills defenses. 

 

Believe it or not a mike stoops defense was ranked #1 in the big 12 against both the pass and the run in 2015.  He had a lot more talent on that team than in recent memory.   They had 8 players on the all big 12 defensive team, compared to  2017 with 1. Coincidentally, their recruiting for defense had been pretty bad for a few years and it's showing now.   I do expect improvement  against both the pass and the run this year just because of the improved recruiting since 17.   i also imagine the offense not being as lethal and scoring quite as quickly as they had been the past couple years. 

Edited May 11, 2018 by Lloyd Christmas

[Beau Vine 54207]

On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 7:45 PM, shakahorn said:

Serious question, does he have all 5 tools?  Cuz I can only think of one player in MLB shorter than 6' who can hit for power.

 

[closetojumping 62561]

Murray’s weekend: 5/12; 2 2Bs; 2 HRs; 8 RBI; 2 SB

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

From today's chat with Fangraphs' prospect guru...if he's on the short list of guys considered to have the "highest ceiling" in the draft, you'd figure he'd be selected pretty high...

12:27

Erik: Highest ceiling and floor in this years draft?

12:29

Kiley McDaniel: Floor is Madrigal. Ceiling is tough to say probably one of Alec Bohm, Kyler Murray, Jordyn Adams. Stewart/Liberatore on pitcher side

[futureman 22444]

he gone. 

[tx ind 7007]

When he gets drafted in the first round aggy can claim they produce first round baseball players

Edited May 17, 2018 by tx ind

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1501]

He would be a fucking moron to not take the Baseball money

[UDontKnow 10439]

20 minutes ago, Mantis Toboggan, MD said:

He would be a fucking moron to not take the Baseball money

I mean he went to aggy and then transferred to OU sucks, so....

[Homercles 10205]

Murray’s weekend: 5/12; 2 2Bs; 2 HRs; 8 RBI; 2 SB

During the ‘real’ (IE not noncon) Bedlam baseball this year, I was watching game 1 upstairs with a beer and the kids to bed...I apparently said loudly enough ‘who the hell is that shrimp...wait that’s the great Murray?’ loudly enough my wife texts me (from downstairs), who is Murray?

Not sure the dude even got a hit the whole series. That soothed my jimmies which are now rustled as I’m expecting my pokes to choke up the conference this weekend.

[Scholz 11938]

10 hours ago, tx ind said:

When he gets drafted in the first round aggy can claim they produce first round baseball players

What do you think?  They'll probably put any sort of baseball title/award he ever wins on their football stadium wall.

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

9 hours ago, Mantis Toboggan, MD said:

He would be a fucking moron to not take the Baseball money

You're right, and this would be the second time he would have passed on baseball money; he was probably going to be a pretty high pick out of HS but told everyone he was going to college. All of this to participate in an amateur sport at which he probably isn't as good and is extremely unlikely to play professionally, which also happens to pose a physical threat to his ability to play baseball in the future. 

I mean...come on kid. This is not a difficult decision. 

[ousux 5597]

He would be a fucking moron to not take the Baseball money

It all depends on two things..

How realistic he is about the size issue for football
How comfortable he is with peaking out in HS for football.

Little Lincoln is surely filling his head with visions of sugarplums, fairies, Big12 championships and being on Heisman watch lists, playoffs etc.. But yeah, he's an idiot if he passes on the MLB draft.

[Scholz 11938]

I hope he plays football.  So we can beat him.

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

1 hour ago, Scholz said:

I hope he plays football.  So we can beat him.

I kind of curious to see what kind of player he is as a full time starter.   I was skeptical of his ranking because of his size, and the overall quality of his hs team.  

Also could it be possible he gets drafted, plays summer ball, and goes back to ou in the fall?

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

6 hours ago, Homercles said:

 

During the ‘real’ (IE not noncon) Bedlam baseball this year, I was watching game 1 upstairs with a beer and the kids to bed...I apparently said loudly enough ‘who the hell is that shrimp...wait that’s the great Murray?’ loudly enough my wife texts me (from downstairs), who is Murray?

Not sure the dude even got a hit the whole series. That soothed my jimmies which are now rustled as I’m expecting my pokes to choke up the conference this weekend.

 

He didn’t do shit against Texas either. 

[Lloyd Christmas 119]

55 minutes ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

I kind of curious to see what kind of player he is as a full time starter.   I was skeptical of his ranking because of his size, and the overall quality of his hs team.  

Also could it be possible he gets drafted, plays summer ball, and goes back to ou in the fall?

 

Wouldnt be the first time it's happened. 

[Boomer 139]

That is for sure.

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

20 minutes ago, Lloyd Christmas said:

 

Wouldnt be the first time it's happened. 

The higher the signing bonus, the less likely a team will be in letting a guy do this. If he signs for top 3 round money, they’re going to want him playing baseball full time and not splitting time with football and in theory schoolwork. 

[Lloyd Christmas 119]

6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

The higher the signing bonus, the less likely a team will be in letting a guy do this. If he signs for top 3 round money, they’re going to want him playing baseball full time and not splitting time with football and in theory schoolwork. 

 

Yes, i can confirm the statement you made is correct. 

[UT Lawnghorn 758]

15 hours ago, tx ind said:

When he gets drafted in the first round aggy can claim they produce first round baseball players quarterbacks

fify

[UT Lawnghorn 758]

I was looking at a couple mock drafts to see who they had my MLB team taking and figured I'd do quick search for Kyler. Neither Fangraphs nor Perfect game had him going in the top 45 picks, but this MLB one had this to say about him while projecting some other OU sucks guy at 25.  Btw, I"m not saying he's right that Kyler is dead set on playing football, I'd bet this writer is not up to date on that aspect. 

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25. Diamondbacks: Steele Walker, OF, Oklahoma

Arizona grabbed a college performer with Pavin Smith at No. 7 a year ago and could have one of the best pure hitters available if Walker falls into its lap at No. 25. His Oklahoma outfieldmate Kyler Murray also would be a first-rounder if he weren't dead set on playing quarterback for the Sooners.

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/college-players-lead-in-mlb-mock-draft/c-276190214?tid=151437456

[lemonandaturd 4285]

Money talks and OU football walks.  

[kopp0e 1135]

On 4/13/2018 at 12:09 PM, ousux said:

On 4/12/2018 at 5:42 PM, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Yes.  Ricky Williams was technically a walk-in when he played at Texas.  He signed with the Phillies and that made him ineligible for a scholarship. If memory serves me correctly, the Phillies picked up his college tuition.
if the argument is that it hasn’t happened recently, then that is probably correct.  But it has happened in the past.
On a side note, Ricky (not Baker) was the first walk on to win the Heisman. 

Wouldn't that technically make RW the only non-scholarship Heisman winner? Pretty sure blowU was paying Fakers tuition last year. (and bail)

Well, on the bright side, Baker didn't fumble during the scrimmage in Fayetteville (that slam to the ribs had to be a real doosey bruise the next morning)...

[Lhorn 4911]

Mayfield not exactly showing the wheels in that gif.  

[Bevo14 8303]

Browns better hope nobody in that division signs those cops

[Ghost of 3:16 7]

Screw him

[Enchubben 5510]

20 hours ago, ousux said:

It all depends on two things..

How realistic he is about the size issue for football
How comfortable he is with peaking out in HS for football.

Little Lincoln is surely filling his head with visions of sugarplums, fairies, Big12 championships and being on Heisman watch lists, playoffs etc.. But yeah, he's an idiot if he passes on the MLB draft.

This.

I like to bet against my wishes, so I would bet he stays at OU and has a good career there and gets drafted late. Still would be better off going baseball route though.

[ShowmeyourTDs 1141]

On 5/11/2018 at 10:55 AM, Lloyd Christmas said:

 

Believe it or not a mike stoops defense was ranked #1 in the big 12 against both the pass and the run in 2015.  He had a lot more talent on that team than in recent memory.   They had 8 players on the all big 12 defensive team, compared to  2017 with 1. Coincidentally, their recruiting for defense had been pretty bad for a few years and it's showing now.   I do expect improvement  against both the pass and the run this year just because of the improved recruiting since 17.   i also imagine the offense not being as lethal and scoring quite as quickly as they had been the past couple years. 

it really is you, isn’t it?

Edited May 18, 2018 by ShowmeyourTDs

[Lloyd Christmas 119]

Damn I look good there

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

From Keith Law's "Big Board" of top players available for the MLB draft...in essence, Murray began screwing up his baseball career when he decided to go to College Station, but it is still salvageable and Law has him as the #38 prospect...but he further screws it up if he plays football for the Sooners...

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38. Kyler Murray, CF, Oklahoma. Murray could have been a first-round pick out of high school but took himself out of the draft by declining to take the mandatory drug test. Then he went to Texas A&M to play football but ended up transferring and missing the spring of 2016 as a result. He had just 49 at-bats last spring and hit .122/.317/.122, then didn't play over the summer, so he came into this spring with those 49 ABs as his only game action in nearly three years. That makes his .292/.394/.557 line even more impressive and might lead some teams to gloss over his 55 strikeouts (25 percent of his plate appearances). Murray is now in center field, where his speed plays up, after spending time at shortstop as a high school underclassman, and he has come into average power now that his body has filled out. He's still behind his age cohorts as a hitter because of all the lost reps, and of course, he is still fighting for the quarterback job this fall for the Sooners, but if he'll commit to baseball full-time, there's a potential above-average everyday center fielder for a team with some patience.

 

Edited May 24, 2018 by Hank Chinaski

[shnsajax 3591]

On 5/17/2018 at 5:56 PM, lemonandaturd said:

Money talks and OU football walks.  

Yep. I’m still waiting for Josh Bell to play for us. 

[Beau Vine 54207]

36 minutes ago, shnsajax said:

Yep. I’m still waiting for Josh Bell to play for us. 

LULZ!

Whatever happened to Fat Joe Left Atlantic anyways?

Edited May 24, 2018 by Beau Vine

[Neonmoon 38129]

Let's see if that dumbfuck gives up guaranteed money twice. 

I bet he does. 

[South Austin 52453]

11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Let's see if that dumbfuck gives up guaranteed money twice. 

Do you mean the guaranteed money from MLB, or the guaranteed money from OU?

[woohorn 1131]

From Keith Law's "Big Board" of top players available for the MLB draft...

38. Kyler Murray, CF, Oklahoma. Murray could have been a first-round pick out of high school but took himself out of the draft by declining to take the mandatory drug test.

 


Why did he throw that "mandatory drug test" tidbit in?