Kyler Murray - The Savior or Satan of OU Football

[Pig Bellmont 8,742]

15 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Dak makes more than $40M/year. Kyler's gonna get more than that as I'm told that's the going rate for franchise QB's -- if he's a franchise QB.

His contract isn’t up, right? So what’s he going to do? Hold out, get fined, and not play? Good luck with that- the team won without him

[C-Man 27,286]

2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

His contract isn’t up, right? So what’s he going to do? Hold out, get fined, and not play? Good luck with that- the team won without him

Sounds like he has one year remaining and then his rookie contract will be over. He will get Dak-level money at least, I would imagine.

[Murfdogg21 4,432]

26 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Sounds like he has one year remaining and then his rookie contract will be over. He will get Dak-level money at least, I would imagine.

If they exercise the 5th year option on first round picks, which they will, he is under contract for 2 more seasons. Then they can franchise him the year after at a “reasonable” rate. Basically the Cardinals can go year-to-year here until 2025 without making a long term guaranteed $ commitment. Mahomes and Watson got their mega extensions at the end of Year 4, so Kyler is a little short on experience to be demanding top 5 pay for 5+ years guaranteed. He is also not as good as them. 
 

These QB contracts kill teams. If you’re going to take up 20%+ of your team’s salary cap, you better fucking play like Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson, Brady (who never made that much), Brees, etc. When teams hand it out to the Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr types it will not end well and you will probably be drafting your next QB in a couple years. The Browns don’t want to give Mayfield the money. We’ll see if/when the Cowboys regret giving it to Dak. 

Edited February 14, 2022 by Murfdogg21

[C-Man 27,286]

1 minute ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If the exercise the 5th year option on first round picks, which they will, he is under contract for 2 more seasons. Then they can franchise him the year after at a “reasonable” rate. Basically the Cardinals can go year-to-year here without making a long term commitment. Mahomes and Watson got their mega extensions at the end of Year 4, so Kyler is a little short on experience to be demanding top 5 pay for 5+ years guaranteed. He is also not as good as them. 
 

These QB contracts kill teams. If you’re going to take up 20%+ of your team’s salary cap, you better fucking play like Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson, Brady (who never made that much), Brees, etc. When teams hand it out to the Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr types it will not end well and you will probably be drafting your next QB in a couple years. The Browns don’t want to give Mayfield the money. We’ll see if/when the Cowboys regret giving it to Dak. 

Gotcha. Agreed about QB contracts crippling teams. You have this mad dash to win a title when they're still on their rookie contracts.

I think Kyler is taking the Zeke approach here. Jerry was stupid enough to call Zeke's bluff, though.

[Blotto 23,585]

1 hour ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If they exercise the 5th year option on first round picks, which they will, he is under contract for 2 more seasons. Then they can franchise him the year after at a “reasonable” rate. Basically the Cardinals can go year-to-year here until 2025 without making a long term guaranteed $ commitment. Mahomes and Watson got their mega extensions at the end of Year 4, so Kyler is a little short on experience to be demanding top 5 pay for 5+ years guaranteed. He is also not as good as them. 
 

These QB contracts kill teams. If you’re going to take up 20%+ of your team’s salary cap, you better fucking play like Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson, Brady (who never made that much), Brees, etc. When teams hand it out to the Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr types it will not end well and you will probably be drafting your next QB in a couple years. The Browns don’t want to give Mayfield the money. We’ll see if/when the Cowboys regret giving it to Dak. 

Josh Allen got his extension heading into his 4th season, so thats what Kyler will probably be pointing to. And KM's  stats for his first three seasons compare favorably (Allen had him on winning %). The move paid off for Buffalo, but then again Allen isn't a little manlet bitch. 

[Horn Dogg 3,981]

Take the rookie contract rate, pussy!

[Zeus 6,182]

17 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

sounds like we dodged a bullet with him.  Kyler damn near broke college football Twitter when he tweeted that pic from his visit with Charlie.  

 

Dodged a bullet? Bruh we fucking SUCKED SHIT with Strong I'd have rooted for this little midget if he was wearing burnt orange.

[Scholz 11,971]

Fuck that petulant little bitch.  He socked cock in that playoff game and was pointing fingers everywhere else.  Low character individual.  Low physical individual.

[torre 1,286]

siap:

 

The Cardinals have their own concerns about Murray, with sources describing the 2019 No. 1 overall pick as self-centered, immature and someone who points fingers.

Arizona coach Kliff Kingsbury is said to be self-scouting where he can provide better alternatives to help Murray, according to sources. Meanwhile, select veterans on the team hope to reach out to Murray on how the 24-year-old can better handle adversity, sources said.

Despite the acrimony, the Cardinals expect things to calm down and for Murray to be their quarterback of the present and future.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/amid-reported-friction-with-kyler-murray-cardinals-say-they-have-high-regard-for-franchise-qb-203902387.html

[Wulaw Horn 19,153]

3 minutes ago, torre said:

siap:

 

The Cardinals have their own concerns about Murray, with sources describing the 2019 No. 1 overall pick as self-centered, immature and someone who points fingers.

Arizona coach Kliff Kingsbury is said to be self-scouting where he can provide better alternatives to help Murray, according to sources. Meanwhile, select veterans on the team hope to reach out to Murray on how the 24-year-old can better handle adversity, sources said.

Despite the acrimony, the Cardinals expect things to calm down and for Murray to be their quarterback of the present and future.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/amid-reported-friction-with-kyler-murray-cardinals-say-they-have-high-regard-for-franchise-qb-203902387.html

He is such a little bitch. I’m pretty sure if I was Arizona I’d be exploring options on the trade market. I don’t think he’s a guy you ever win a super bowl with. 

[Pam Cummings 9,686]

2 hours ago, Scholz said:

Fuck that petulant little bitch.  He socked cock in that playoff game and was pointing fingers everywhere else.  Low character individual.  Low physical individual.

Well he's certainly the right height.

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

Wait… im sorry I’ve been busy and just now heard, has everyone finally found out what a dickless, pussybitch #1 is? 

Better late than never i guess

[pyrohornIII 4,823]

2 hours ago, Scholz said:

Fuck that petulant little bitch.  He socked cock in that playoff game and was pointing fingers everywhere else.  Low character individual.  Low physical individual.

That's a new way to say he's short in character and stature.  Bravo.

[Surly Bevo 25,225]

The obvious solution to all of this is for the Cardinals to fire Coach Bro this offseason and hire Lincoln Reilly away from USC.

[Brothahorn 10,087]

If they exercise the 5th year option on first round picks, which they will, he is under contract for 2 more seasons. Then they can franchise him the year after at a “reasonable” rate. Basically the Cardinals can go year-to-year here until 2025 without making a long term guaranteed $ commitment. Mahomes and Watson got their mega extensions at the end of Year 4, so Kyler is a little short on experience to be demanding top 5 pay for 5+ years guaranteed. He is also not as good as them. 
 
These QB contracts kill teams. If you’re going to take up 20%+ of your team’s salary cap, you better fucking play like Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson, Brady (who never made that much), Brees, etc. When teams hand it out to the Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr types it will not end well and you will probably be drafting your next QB in a couple years. The Browns don’t want to give Mayfield the money. We’ll see if/when the Cowboys regret giving it to Dak. 

Agreed on the QB contracts. Rodgers is probably going to be the highest paid qb soon. But GB should rethink that. Despite his greatness, they keep coming up short. Maybe spend that money on upgrading the other 52 positions. Just my unpopular opinion.

[Sbbruin 21,900]

1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

The obvious solution to all of this is for the Cardinals to fire Coach Bro this offseason and hire Lincoln Reilly away from USC.

[Sbbruin 21,900]

18 hours ago, Blotto said:

but then again Allen isn't a little manlet bitch. 

[lilMAC25 3,824]

Still not as big of a gaping cunt as Baker Mayfield.

[honolulu horn 6,165]

27 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Still not as big of a gaping cunt as Baker Mayfield.

He's doing his best, though, I'll give him that. 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

27 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Still not as big of a gaping cunt as Baker Mayfield.

You mean he comes up… short?

[tbone_ 14,201]

He is such a little bitch. I’m pretty sure if I was Arizona I’d be exploring options on the trade market. I don’t think he’s a guy you ever win a super bowl with. 

AZ ain’t all about super bowls bruh

[Deej 76,983]

Trade him to the Texans for Watson.

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

10 hours ago, Zeus said:

Dodged a bullet? Bruh we fucking SUCKED SHIT with Strong I'd have rooted for this little midget if he was wearing burnt orange.

The only bullet that was dodged was the possibility of Murray winning a couple more games a season and strong  sticking around for a few more years

[Murfdogg21 4,432]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

Trade him to the Texans for Watson.

[Js1 85,635]

9 minutes ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

The only bullet that was dodged was the possibility of Murray winning a couple more games a season and strong  sticking around for a few more years

Didn’t Kyler have to sit out 2016 anyhow? I don’t think he’d have won Charlie a few more games sitting on the bench that year.  He would have been tanned, rested and ready for Tom though 

Edited February 16, 2022 by Js1

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

[Deej 76,983]

12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He would have been tanned,

[Tex Pete 20,557]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Didn’t Kyler have to sit out 2016 anyhow? I don’t think he’d have won Charlie a few more games sitting on the bench that year.  He would have been tanned, rested and ready for Tom though 

He would have died ramming his head into our Guard’s ass over and over. 

Wait. That sounds a little gay. 

[Texzilla58 4,745]

Agreed on the QB contracts. Rodgers is probably going to be the highest paid qb soon. But GB should rethink that. Despite his greatness, they keep coming up short. Maybe spend that money on upgrading the other 52 positions. Just my unpopular opinion.

Rodgers is under contract in 22 with a $46m cap hit. 23 is a voidable year. GB is $48m over the cap. They have to shed a ton of cap $ immediately with restructures and cuts. Rodgers has said he does not want to play in a rebuilding situation. They should trade him to a contender missing a QB.

Murray’s agent is using Buffalo’s extension of Allen after three years as the precedent. If they commit to him they will exercise his 5th year option this spring. In 24 they can franchise him at the avg of the five top qb salaries. His deal voids if he quits for mlb,

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

12 hours ago, Js1 said:

Didn’t Kyler have to sit out 2016 anyhow? I don’t think he’d have won Charlie a few more games sitting on the bench that year.  He would have been tanned, rested and ready for Tom though 

I was considering the year before when he took a last minute surprise visit as a high school recruit.  I believe Charlie had just landed Malik Jefferson and had some mild recruiting momentum.  
That year Charlie signed Kai locks key and something called Matthew merrick.  

[PilotsError 2,325]

The QB salary just needs to be separated from the rest of the team's salary already.  The numbers and percentages are absurd.  

[Zeus 6,182]

13 hours ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

The only bullet that was dodged was the possibility of Murray winning a couple more games a season and strong  sticking around for a few more years

Well then maybe we don't hire turtle and suck shit for the next 4 years.

[SilasCoade 2,622]

2 hours ago, Zeus said:

Well then maybe we don't hire turtle and suck shit for the next 4 years.

Here's a possible butterfly effect:

Kyler wins enough for Strong that he beats Kansas.

Texas never hires Herman.

LSU hires Herman.

LSU never wins title, Burrow either does not go to LSU or does and they suck balls. Burrow does not win the Heisman, is not drafted by the Bengals, and the Bengals do not make the Super Bowl.

[The Dog 44,171]

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2022/02/13/kyler-murray-colt-mccoy-wild-card-loss?utm_source=reddit.com

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NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo reports Murray asked out of the game near the end of the fourth quarter when it was clear Arizona was going to lose.

“The playoff game [in Los Angeles] a minute left, the game had been decided, backup Colt McCoy encouraged Murray to finish the game with his teammates,” Garafolo said. “A banged-up Murray said no, that’s it, I’m done.”

Garafolo added Arizona took note of that decision by Murray.

“A lot of Cardinals folks were not happy with that.”

 

[tokamak 6,443]

21 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Still not as big of a gaping cunt as Baker Mayfield.

I know they're our rivals and we don't like them anyway, but OU has had quite the run of really, really unlikable assholes at QB. Who was the last one that anyone could stand to be around? Bradford, maybe?

[quigley 1,563]

47 minutes ago, tokamak said:

I know they're our rivals and we don't like them anyway, but OU has had quite the run of really, really unlikable assholes at QB. Who was the last one that anyone could stand to be around? Bradford, maybe?

OU's gotten many of their recent QBs from Texas. Texas has so many college football options to pick from that it may take a contrarian personality to leave Texas. So you may be selecting from a prickly personality type to start from.

He's a hyper-religious, but Trevor Knight seems like a normal person.

People who knew him as a high schooler liked Caleb Williams. Neither UT nor OU fans (mostly) like him much now.

[Js1 85,635]

Sam Bradford seemed like an okay dude. 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

1 hour ago, quigley said:

Neither UT nor OU fans (mostly) like him much now.

Yeah, becoming a pretentious, double dealing, prima donna who treats people he sees as beneath him like shit will do that.  

[markstanco 12,636]

5 hours ago, PilotsError said:

The QB salary just needs to be separated from the rest of the team's salary already.  The numbers and percentages are absurd.  

That would be the last thing owners want. 

[Tex Pete 20,557]

13 hours ago, tokamak said:

I know they're our rivals and we don't like them anyway, but OU has had quite the run of really, really unlikable assholes at QB. Who was the last one that anyone could stand to be around? Bradford, maybe?

What a coincidence. All their coaches have also been unlikeable assholes. And for that matter, the whole state is just one giant bowl of shit. 

[South Austin 52,638]

19 hours ago, Llogg said:

Here's a possible butterfly effect:

Kyler wins enough for Strong that he beats Kansas.

Texas never hires Herman.

LSU hires Herman.

LSU never wins title, Burrow either does not go to LSU or does and they suck balls. Burrow does not win the Heisman, is not drafted by the Bengals, and the Bengals do not make the Super Bowl.

[Eskimohorn 5,644]

Here's a possible butterfly effect:
Kyler wins enough for Strong that he beats Kansas.
Texas never hires Herman.
LSU hires Herman.
LSU never wins title, Burrow either does not go to LSU or does and they suck balls. Burrow does not win the Heisman, is not drafted by the Bengals, and the Bengals do not make the Super Bowl.

Imagine if Strong hired Lincoln Riley, OC from East Carolina (on Scip’s list of Top OC’s) instead of Shawn Watson.

[closetohumping 17,484]

39 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Imagine if Strong hired Lincoln Riley, OC from East Carolina (on Scip’s list of Top OC’s) instead of Shawn Watson.

Strong is likely still here, Riley would be coach of the Dolphins somehow.

[markstanco 12,636]

. Who was the last one that anyone could stand to be around? Bradford, maybe?

Only because he seems like he sucks.

[Jive Turkey 12,659]

Edited February 28, 2022 by Jive Turkey

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[Davis Lane 5,671]

1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

[Pam Cummings 9,686]

Kyler Murray first 3 years as a starter: 22-23-1

Mitchell Trubisky first 3 years as a starter: 23-18

 

Fucking over rated pussy who can't take a loss.

Edited February 28, 2022 by Pam Cummings

[Deej 76,983]

[Scholz 11,971]

Cryler chose an interesting point in time to throw a tantrum and demand hundreds of millions of dollars after looking like complete ass in the wild card round.