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This is important.  We should celebrate the free flow of ideas.  Perhaps this will staunch the bleeding of the pocketbooks of the working class.  Sure, it will take some time for society to absorb the true import of this step, but this goes far beyond merely padding Scotland's social welfare bonafides.  And if you don't like it, you can stick it up your....whatever.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

This is important.  We should celebrate the free flow of ideas.  Perhaps this will staunch the bleeding of the pocketbooks of the working class.  Sure, it will take some time for society to absorb the true import of this step, but this goes far beyond merely padding Scotland's social welfare bonafides.  And if you don't like it, you can stick it up your....whatever.

There's gonna be a shitload of red tape.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

This is important.  We should celebrate the free flow of ideas.  Perhaps this will staunch the bleeding of the pocketbooks of the working class.  Sure, it will take some time for society to absorb the true import of this step, but this goes far beyond merely padding Scotland's social welfare bonafides.  And if you don't like it, you can stick it up your....whatever.

What's the matter, you on the rag?

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I have been trying to analogize this to something.  Toilet paper?

I mean I get that it's a supply that only women use, but I don't really get why it needs to be free everywhere?  I assume this just means in public restrooms?

I think some public restrooms have pad and tampon dispensers, but somewhere I also picked up that they're almost always vandalized.  Kind of like I have become aware that women's restrooms are typically many times nastier than mens.

This seems to indicate that Scotland is going to purchase all rags of all types for all women everywhere.  That seems bizarre.

Can I get a free jockstrap?

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12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have been trying to analogize this to something.  Toilet paper?

I mean I get that it's a supply that only women use, but I don't really get why it needs to be free everywhere?  I assume this just means in public restrooms?

I think some public restrooms have pad and tampon dispensers, but somewhere I also picked up that they're almost always vandalized.  Kind of like I have become aware that women's restrooms are typically many times nastier than mens.

This seems to indicate that Scotland is going to purchase all rags of all types for all women everywhere.  That seems bizarre.

Can I get a free jockstrap?

I don't necessarily think that they should be free, but I definitely think they shouldn't be a taxable purchase.  Which puts me at odds with Republican officials, who think that making tampons tax-free will....lead to hoarding.  

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A debate erupted this week in the Tennessee state legislature over the danger of women buying too many tampons.

The concern came up during a hearing Tuesday about taxation of the products. Specifically, Democratic lawmakers in the state have proposed a bill to include tampons and other menstrual products in Tennessee’s yearly sales tax holiday, a three-day weekend when residents can buy things tax-free.

But state Sen. Joey Hensley, a Republican, worried that this might lead to out-of-control tampon-buying.

“I would think since it’s a sales tax holiday, there’s really no limit on the number of items anybody can purchase,” he said, according to the Associated Press. “I don’t know how you would limit the number of items someone could purchase.”

So...yeah.

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Do people buy tampons for back to school?

 

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It can cost up to $10 for tampons and pads each month, and the expense can lead to some girls using tissues or socks instead, a student from St. Paul's High School in Glasgow told BBC News.

 

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42 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Kind of like I have become aware that women's restrooms are typically many times nastier than mens.

I've had to clean bathrooms at several retail jobs while in high school and I will say this is 100% accurate.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have been trying to analogize this to something.  Toilet paper?

I mean I get that it's a supply that only women use, but I don't really get why it needs to be free everywhere?  I assume this just means in public restrooms?

I think some public restrooms have pad and tampon dispensers, but somewhere I also picked up that they're almost always vandalized.  Kind of like I have become aware that women's restrooms are typically many times nastier than mens.

This seems to indicate that Scotland is going to purchase all rags of all types for all women everywhere.  That seems bizarre.

Can I get a free jockstrap?

How about medication? I believe Scottish citizens do not have to pay a penny for prescription meds as part of the NHS. In that light, this makes sense. 

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I don't necessarily think that they should be free, but I definitely think they shouldn't be a taxable purchase.  Which puts me at odds with Republican officials, who think that making tampons tax-free will....lead to hoarding.  

So...yeah.

Yeah, I'm with you there.

But hard-core feminists have been saying rags should be free for years.  I have never been sure if that meant ALL rags, or just in public accommodations, or what.

Like I said, I get that it's a uniquely feminine problem, but I don't get inequality in not making them all free.  

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I’m going to interrupt the aggy music appreciation to ask if scots have to pay for prophylactics. 

Nope. Covered under NHS:

  • combined pill
  • condoms
  • contraceptive cap  
  • contraceptive implant
  • contraceptive injection
  • contraceptive patch
  • diaphragms
  • female condoms
  • intrauterine device (IUD)
  • Mirena (intrauterine system or IUS)
  • natural family planning
  • progestogen-only pill (mini-pill)
  • vaginal ring
  • female sterilisation
  • male sterilisation (vasectomy)

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/getting-contraception/

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3 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

So toilet paper is gonna be free for everybody ?  Talk about yer socialist uptopias....

On the surface this issue seems simple, but IMO it isn't quite. One buys toilet paper for their home use. If, for example, one goes to a public school or attends an event there and uses the public restroom presumably there is toilet paper (custodial staff keeping up with demand notwithstanding). That cost is provided by taxpayers, correct? Regardless of whether one had a blowout due to the Frito pie eaten at the Friday night game or skipped the bathroom due to the guy  that had a blowout. At a restaurant, the cost for toilet paper is built into the pricing structure for service. At an office, the cost may be absorbed by the business owner. Same with tissues and/or napkins (hand, not sanitary). So, perhaps making the feminine products tax free is not such an awful compromise? Do we tax toilet paper? Should we? I don't even know.

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1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

On the surface this issue seems simple, but IMO it isn't quite. One buys toilet paper for their home use. If, for example, one goes to a public school or attends an event there and uses the public restroom presumably there is toilet paper (custodial staff keeping up with demand notwithstanding). That cost is provided by taxpayers, correct? Regardless of whether one had a blowout due to the Frito pie eaten at the Friday night game or skipped the bathroom due to the guy  that had a blowout. At a restaurant, the cost for toilet paper is built into the pricing structure for service. At an office, the cost may be absorbed by the business owner. Same with tissues and/or napkins (hand, not sanitary). So, perhaps making the feminine products tax free is not such an awful compromise? Do we tax toilet paper? Should we? I don't even know.

Yes ma'am interesting points. The gov't funds bathroom visits in public buildings. That's appropriate, my comments were a bit tongue in cheek. I don't have a big problem with it as many families can't afford food much less hygiene products for the mom or daughters (I can see that as being traumatic for a young girl). This falls into the category of healthcare for all I believe.

In Cuba, Feminine products were almost unattainable to anyone not in the higher up party apparatus, much less available to be bought by the masses for many years.  I seem to remember the El Jeffe' approved toilet paper sucked too.

 

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I'm starting to wonder if I'm the weird one here?  

I live with a woman now, but even when I was single and living alone, there was a basket in my guest bathroom.  It contained a couple of new toothbrushes and a small toothpaste, a contact lens case and a small solution, a package of q tips, and yes, a few tampons.   We have a similar setup in the guest suite here now.

I considered it a "just in case" for any guests...mainly for "I've had too much wine and need to crash here" guests, but whatever, it was there for all to see. 

Nobody else does that? 

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Shit, it's been years, but yeah, they disappeared once in a while. 

Now I have no idea because the GF handles that kind of thing.  Of course, the deal she does has  makeup remover pads, lotions, soaps, etc.  It's now clearly geared towards the ladies.  Mine was basically for anybody that crashed, plus tampons. 

Oh, also tylenol, Tums, etc. 

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That was the situation.  I enjoy entertaining.   In my single days, nearly every saturday and sunday I'd have guests over.  Enjoying the pool, eating, drinking, watching football, etc.  Basically everybody knew that there was going to be a party at my house, and everybody in my friend group had a standing invite.  

I really enjoyed it, but it got expensive.  A couple hundred bucks a week on booze and food.  Good times though.  And it got me laid quite a bit.  Everybody knew that any single attractive female friends could tag along. 

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Am I missing what the law actually does?  It reimburses public accomodations who stock their restroom with tampons, right?  You can't walk into a public restroom and get a vaginal ring or diabetus prescription.  You can walk in and use all their toilet paper.

I guess I'm with Gil here and thought this was already a normal thing to do.  Maybe not for a gas station, but at a sit down restaurant or hotel lobby restroom.

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4 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Shit, it's been years, but yeah, they disappeared once in a while. 

Now I have no idea because the GF handles that kind of thing.  Of course, the deal she does has  makeup remover pads, lotions, soaps, etc.  It's now clearly geared towards the ladies.  Mine was basically for anybody that crashed, plus tampons. 

Oh, also tylenol, Tums, etc. 

Mrs. Whiggins thinks you are a considerate host, a rare gem and your GF has excellent taste.

Mrs. Whiggins is going to ignore the bit that comes after, "Good times though..." in your follow up post because she would rather not know about that part. For the record, though, I don't ask my spouse about that stuff either.

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Yeah, that's a pretty considerate thing.  I suppose if there's a woman in the house, a discreet inquiry can take care of things, but not for the bach pad.

Are feminine hygiene dispensers common in public restrooms or no?  I know they exist, but I don't know how common they are.

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58 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Mrs. Whiggins thinks you are a considerate host, a rare gem and your GF has excellent taste.

Mrs. Whiggins is going to ignore the bit that comes after, "Good times though..." in your follow up post because she would rather not know about that part. For the record, though, I don't ask my spouse about that stuff either.

The question is,  was Gil Bang actually going into the grocery store and buying those feminine products or paying someone to do his dirty work ?  

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Yeah, that's a pretty considerate thing.  I suppose if there's a woman in the house, a discreet inquiry can take care of things, but not for the bach pad.
Are feminine hygiene dispensers common in public restrooms or no?  I know they exist, but I don't know how common they are.


Not very common at all and if they are present they’re either always empty because no one ever restocks, if they do have product they’re sort of sketchy and the items look like they’ve been in the machine for seven years, or the dispensers have been trashed or vandalized.

And, yes, Gil Bang is a very thoughtful host.
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