The New Car Fanatic Thread

[G650 14263]

On 12/27/2018 at 12:44 PM, PittsburghTiger said:

This morning, before the weather changes later today I took the '98 911 out, top down, and then the '68 Buick Riviera. Not a bad day for a couple short drives. Put about 60 miles on both. It's amazing how different the brakes are between the two. The Riviera still has its original drums and the Porsche has what would be comparable to Westinghouse Air Brakes.

My buddy in high school had a 72 Riviera with a 455 in it. That thing was a death trap.

[pepper brooks 580]

I rented a Mercedes c63 Amg this week in los angekes. That thing is a freaking monster. I loved everything about that car other than the entertainment display. It’s so  out of place and just not befitting that car. It’s like an afterthought they simply glued onto the dashboard because they forgot to put it into the design. It’s horrible and distracting. That said, with that engine and drive platform I could easily get over it. 

[PittsburghTiger 6188]

19 hours ago, G650 said:

My buddy in high school had a 72 Riviera with a 455 in it. That thing was a death trap.

I like the pre-70s Rivieras the most. I really, really like mine. But I really, really, really like the 1963. Mine has the 430. It's not a death trap, although I have thought of swapping out the drums for disks. I think I like mine more because it is not bloated as the later models. It's cleaner.

[Bozo_Casanova 26472]

On 12/27/2018 at 11:44 AM, PittsburghTiger said:

This morning, before the weather changes later today I took the '98 911 out, top down, and then the '68 Buick Riviera. Not a bad day for a couple short drives. Put about 60 miles on both. It's amazing how different the brakes are between the two. The Riviera still has its original drums and the Porsche has what would be comparable to Westinghouse Air Brakes.

Yep  - I had a similar experience recently comparing the brakes on my 335 with my 67 Mustang, which has unpowered drum brakes to go with the unjointed, non-collapsible  "harpoon" steering column.  It's amazing in retrospect that I lived through High School and college driving that thing, because while I put plenty of thought and attention into getting what I could from the powertrain, stopping on purpose or by accident wasn't a priority at the time.
Reflecting on the difference I've decided to donate the car to charity for auction or whatever to some old codger who will restore or hopefully resto-mod it properly and drive it slowly, mainly because I don't want my kids or my cousin behind the wheel of that thing. It's a death trap.

Edited December 29, 2018 by Bozo_Casanova

[Loco 3752]

Upgrade the brakes!   Purist be damned.   I put some willwood disks on the FJ...   so much safer than playing guess which one brake will catch...   psych!  None!

 

I feel like I could get the rear wheels off the ground now

[G650 14263]

1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I like the pre-70s Rivieras the most. I really, really like mine. But I really, really, really like the 1963. Mine has the 430. It's not a death trap, although I have thought of swapping out the drums for disks. I think I like mine more because it is not bloated as the later models. It's cleaner.

Yeah, the 70s were maximum bloat. Literal land yachts. We always called my buddy's one the Batmoblie

[Bozo_Casanova 26472]

For a while in college had a Metallic Blue 72 Electra with a 455. It was 19 Feet long and had a curb weight of 4900 pounds.  I installed an airhorn and called it The Nimitz. Fantastic highway car for long, straight drives in flat country. 

Edited December 29, 2018 by Bozo_Casanova

[Pato del Muerto 52505]

The dad of a friend of mine had a late 70s or early 80s towncar that he put a train horn in. Attention getter that was. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 12/28/2018 at 3:17 PM, G650 said:

My buddy in high school had a 72 Riviera with a 455 in it. That thing was a death trap.

Any car built before crumple zones, anti lock brakes, Air bags, collapsible steering wheels, 3 point should harnesses were deathtraps.

[Sam Lin 3559]

On 12/23/2018 at 7:24 AM, elfenix said:

it's like a cayenne and a c-hr had one fugly child

Seen a few in person now, they just look like a taller, bloated Accord hatchback to me. Completely "meh."

[PittsburghTiger 6188]

23 hours ago, Loco said:

Upgrade the brakes!   Purist be damned.   I put some willwood disks on the FJ...   so much safer than playing guess which one brake will catch...   psych!  None!

 

I feel like I could get the rear wheels off the ground now

I might do that in the spring.

[BoomMF 1399]

Saw Ace and Gary out driving one of these earlier.

Looks like a very fast shoe.

[Prepuce of Doom 21074]

While we're on the topic of '70s Buicks and safety upgrades, I'm planning to replace the tires (probably 15-20 years old?) and wheels (currently riding on 14s) which will allow me to upgrade to discs on my mom's '71 Skylark convertible that I've inherited. 

It's currently being stored in my stepmom's garage until I can build a detached garage at the house we just closed on.

My dad was shamefully lazy about proper maintenance and upkeep, and there's a lot of really frustrating minor shit that never should have been ignored or "repaired" in the way he (incorrectly) thought was adequate and reasonable.

For example, the front driver's side tire has either a slow leak or a bent wheel such that this has happened during winter storage for the past 10-15 years or more - I can't even make an educated guess. It will hold air once filled up (or at least it always has in the past) and it's good for a month or two between fill ups over the spring and summer during its operational time. But this should have been diagnosed and addressed a decade ago.

I'm planning on driving it up to Chicago this summer (~175 miles when avoiding the interstate, and will have a chase vehicle) after I get my garage built. I'll probably do the new wheels and tires before making the journey though. I'm a little curious about whether I'll be able to find larger wire wheels that can accommodate a disc brake package or if I'm going to have to get used to a different style...

Edited December 30, 2018 by Prepuce of Doom

[Goofyboy 3293]

My step dad likes to chase / shop for fun cars. He has a 65 restomod truck that he’s selling. He sent me a 2015 F-Type Jag saying he wants a new toy. He wants to stay around $30k, which put the Jag out of his range.

What can I point him towards? Early 2000 Porsche? Vette’s? He will keep a year or two at most.

[Pato del Muerto 52505]

https://www.flyinmiata.com/V8/for_sale.html

unless a Miata with an LS2 for $32,000 doesn’t sound like a fun toy. 

Edited December 30, 2018 by Pato del Muerto

[Slacks 6821]

For a while in college had a Metallic Blue 72 Electra with a 455. It was 19 Feet long and had a curb weight of 4900 pounds.  I installed an airhorn and called it The Nimitz. Fantastic highway car for long, straight drives in flat country. 

Funny, I was having a similar conversation about this car last week. Granny had one. Monkey Puke Green. It was a yacht... On the highway and in the city.

I wonder if I can dig one up.

[NYTransplant 145]

On 12/30/2018 at 4:01 PM, Goofyboy said:

My step dad likes to chase / shop for fun cars. He has a 65 restomod truck that he’s selling. He sent me a 2015 F-Type Jag saying he wants a new toy. He wants to stay around $30k, which put the Jag out of his range.

What can I point him towards? Early 2000 Porsche? Vette’s? He will keep a year or two at most.

Send him the link to https://bringatrailer.com/. That should give him plenty of good/bad ideas.

[Goofyboy 3293]

Send him the link to https://bringatrailer.com/. That should give him plenty of good/bad ideas.

Yes. That is perfect. Thank you.

[Chad Fuck 17684]

For a while in college had a Metallic Blue 72 Electra with a 455. It was 19 Feet long and had a curb weight of 4900 pounds.  I installed an airhorn and called it The Nimitz. Fantastic highway car for long, straight drives in flat country. 

This makes me hard.

Is that wrong?

[Prepuce of Doom 21074]

1 hour ago, Goofyboy said:

 

Yes. That is perfect. Thank you.

 

Barnfinds.com is a pretty decent aggregator too. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26472]

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

This makes me hard.

Is that wrong?

If it is, I don't want to be right. 

[Prepuce of Doom 21074]

It's in the low 50s in Chicago today, so a few fun cars are out stretching their legs.

Saw this Ruf and figured it was such a rare Bird that even these shit pictures were worth posting...

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

Was in Mexico but heard I missed a prime chance to hit the roads.  Hope the ice/snow stays away and I can go tear up lake shore drive one of these nights. 

[52-80 19161]

Toyota Supra officially revealed

 

 

exterior styling concept:  8/10 ... lots of mk3 supra seen in the lights

exterior shape:  8/10 ... classic FR layout

rear/rear 3rd:  10/10 ... hawt, just like prototypes

overall exterior looks:  7/10.. .just way overstylized...ugly wheels... too many incisions

 

interior:  laughably bmw.  steering wheel is bmw from 2 generations ago.  bmw transmission stalk.  idrive controller.  full bmw hvac, radio, vents, buttons, display cluster graphics.

 

drivetrain is bmw motor + zf transmission

 

basically all full on BMW parts bin.  unless toyota fully developed the suspension in house, why even call it a toyota

 

[52-80 19161]

atleast the wheels have meaty rubbers on them, not 21" rubberbands

[Sam Lin 3559]

Pedestrian impact requirements are killing nose and hood design. BMW interior is a major turnoff. As is BMW motor. As a friend put it, this might be the least reliable Toyota ever made.

I really want to like it, and hope for a different impression in person and in driving. Longer body than BRZ but shorter wheelbase, and a couple hundred pounds heavier in weight. Who is the target buyer for the base engine with 194hp?? (Likely not coming to the US market.)

[52-80 19161]

Weight for the 4cyl is 3200# which is pretty good all things considered.  That variant might sell in some EU jurisdiction where there's big tax on power and emissions output. 

 

Not sure how much more the 6cyl adds.

 

Some early drives from the pre-prod Z4 reports that it's inert in dynamic behavior.  So really the Supra suspension needs to be magic to make a compelling car.  (But then again Supra was always more GT than sports coupe....)

[Bozo_Casanova 26472]

Very disappoint.

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

Supposed to be 0-60 in 4.1. Pretty dang good.

[Pato del Muerto 52505]

Thought it was the new 86/brz until I read Supra. 

[Sandman 3403]

I may be in the minority, judging from the comments I read online, but I think the new Supra looks stupid. It looks like an Opel GT with a tumor. 

[G650 14263]

23 hours ago, 52-80 said:

 

 

 steering wheel is bmw from 2 generations ago.

 

This is wild. It's literally an early 2000's BMW steering wheel. What on earth is the thinking on that? They had to restart an ancient assembly line just to make these damn things.

[Loco 3752]

Or they found a storage room nobody inventoried...    Count me in as a new Supra critic.   Looks like a prop car from the fast and the furious

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

I mean, the new Z4 has the same design.

[52-80 19161]

1 hour ago, G650 said:

This is wild. It's literally an early 2000's BMW steering wheel. What on earth is the thinking on that? They had to restart an ancient assembly line just to make these damn things.

New Old Stock on alibaba

[G650 14263]

35 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

I mean, the new Z4 has the same design.

That's crazy too.

[Prepuce of Doom 21074]

Maybe they're making a reference to the Latin meaning of "supra" in that the steering wheel (and other elements) have been seen previously? 

Edited January 16, 2019 by Prepuce of Doom

[pepper brooks 580]

On ‎1‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 6:56 AM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Very disappoint.

agreed.  looks like a hard top try hard miata.  terrible.  

[Sam Lin 3559]

Grassroots Motorsports forum response: "So Toyota has a 487hp V8 and a torsen and Brembos and a decent coupe chassis and they had to let BMW do the heavy engineering on the Supra why?"

Referring to the Lexus RC F. The man does have a point.

[52-80 19161]

3 hours ago, Sam Lin said:

Grassroots Motorsports forum response: "So Toyota has a 487hp V8 and a torsen and Brembos and a decent coupe chassis and they had to let BMW do the heavy engineering on the Supra why?"

Referring to the Lexus RC F. The man does have a point.

basically, BMW swindled them out of subsidizing development for the new Z4.

[Bert Orange 1120]

I’m waiting on the new Celica. 80% of the cool, with 40% of the power, for 50% of the cost. 

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

I’m waiting on the new Celica. 80% of the cool, with 40% of the power, for 50% of the cost. 

That already exists. It’s called the GT-86.

[texasdago 7573]

Like the Supra... is that the Subaru version or the Scion?

[pepper brooks 580]

the more I see of the new Supra the more disappointed I am.  It's just terrible.  

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

On 1/18/2019 at 8:42 PM, BurntEyes said:

If you're gonna wait nearly 20 years to bring a beloved car back into production .

Get it right.

Toyota didn't, at all. 

That thing is embarrassing.  

[Chewbacca 7780]

On 1/18/2019 at 7:42 PM, BurntEyes said:

If you're gonna wait nearly 20 years to bring a beloved car back into production .

Get it right.

Toyota didn't, at all. 

It's more than beloved.  The 90s Supra Turbo is one of Toyota's most iconic cars they've ever made.  This new car is a joke.

[Chewbacca 7780]

Anyone drive the new Navigator yet?  Looks nice but I can't believe people will pay $90k for a Ford product.

Edited January 24, 2019 by Chewbacca

[Okie State 3821]

People pay $90K for a Toyota (Lexus) or Nissan (Infiniti), etc. I actually really like the direction Lincoln is headed. The Aviator will be on our list this time next year.

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

People pay $90K for a Toyota (Lexus) or Nissan (Infiniti), etc. I actually really like the direction Lincoln is headed. The Aviator will be on our list this time next year.

 

 

Yep. Escalade too. The non-Lexus Toyota Land Cruiser is $90k, too. Kind of a different animal but yeah.  

 

Lots of Escalade buyers are already buying the Navigator.

 

Not to mention that a $400k Ford already exists, and the GT500 will probably crest $100k as well.

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

And I like the new Supra. People are just hung up on the name. If it was called the Celica or the GT (what I would have picked, but the GT86 already exists) or the Sprinter or the Soarer nobody would bat an eye.

People wanted one, so they called it that. Fin.