The New Car Fanatic Thread

[pepper brooks 579]

14 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Saw a GLC63 the other day.  Can't believe they shoehorned that big TT V8 into that tiny SUV.  

why?  they've been doing that for a while with the C63AMG sedan and it's glorious.  Love driving that vehicle.  

Edited August 28, 2019 by pepper brooks

[TwiceHorn 31227]

14 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Saw a GLC63 the other day.  Can't believe they shoehorned that big TT V8 into that tiny SUV.  

Is it tiny though?  On the road, it presents a less tiny silhouette than most "compact" SUVs.  I keep seeing them and thinking, gotta be a GLE, but it isn't.  Of course the C series appears or projects less dinky than past iterations too.

Part of me wants a full-size SUV, i.e. a truck.  But part of me acknowledges that I would be displeased with certain aspects of it, e.g. size, handling, mileage.  So the wagon-type SUV appeals and probably smaller better within limits.  And I tend to prefer those that look more like trucks than wagons or some fanciful econobox.

[elfenix 34169]

22 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Another prole vehicle question.  How is the M-B GLC, meaning the SUV?  I have seen a few on the street and it seems to be a good size from the outside (not small, not ginormous and doesn't remind one of an econobox as some of the smaller SUVs do).  I know it isn't a Macan, but that's too spendy (pre and post purchase) for me.

Also, what's the deal with these four door coupes?  They're nice looking in some cases, but the rooflines seem to render the second set of doors superfluous.  A 6 series two-door would be right in my wheelhouse, but alas.  Also, these four door coupe SUVs? Wtf?  I mean wtff?

friend has a GLC coupe and rear seats are fine.  the cargo area gets cut into.  every GLE coupe i see looks like a water retaining roid bro at the gym. 

but yes, coupeUVs are a pox. 

 

 

AMG GLC coupe is pretty evil looking

Edited August 28, 2019 by elfenix

[Prepuce of Doom 20979]

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Couple things that caught my interest in this place.

Where is that? Looks a little like the Automobile Driving Museum in El Segundo, which is something that I always recommend to people with a long layover at (or late-night Sunday flight out of) LAX. 

[Pato del Muerto 52331]

It’s the Forney museum of transportation in Denver. Private collection, has trains and bikes and a couple of planes. 

[TwiceHorn 31227]

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

friend has a GLC coupe and rear seats are fine.  the cargo area gets cut into.  every GLE coupe i see looks like a water retaining roid bro at the gym. 

but yes, coupeUVs are a pox. 

 

 

AMG GLC coupe is pretty evil looking

How is the GLC coupe as a vehicle?  Handling, etc?  Is the blown 4 sufficient engine?  They say the interior is quite nice and it looks it from photos.

[elfenix 34169]

25 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

How is the GLC coupe as a vehicle?  Handling, etc?  Is the blown 4 sufficient engine?  They say the interior is quite nice and it looks it from photos.

i haven't driven it but as a passenger i had no complaints.  it's a merc so it's not going to handle like a mid 90s 3 series but the ride was fine and it never seemed underpowered. 

Edited August 28, 2019 by elfenix

[Chewbacca 7729]

It’s the Forney museum of transportation in Denver. Private collection, has trains and bikes and a couple of planes. 

Haven't been there since i was a yute.

[Southland 35]

On 8/28/2019 at 7:41 AM, Pato del Muerto said:

Couple things that caught my interest in this place.

Took my dad here when he came to visit about a month ago. He really enjoyed it and it was cool to see all of the old steam train engines they have in there too.

The other car museum I've been to up here is the Cussler Museum in Arvada. They display a rotating selection of around 70 cars from Clive Cussler's collection. Really cool, especially if you enjoy his books. The collection is split up in two rooms with prewar cars in one and post war through the 60's in the other. The main downside is it is only open on weekdays during the summer. I'll try to dig up some pictures from the last time I was there.

[G650 14069]

11 hours ago, Southland said:

Took my dad here when he came to visit about a month ago. He really enjoyed it and it was cool to see all of the old steam train engines they have in there too.

The other car museum I've been to up here is the Cussler Museum in Arvada. They display a rotating selection of around 70 cars from Clive Cussler's collection. Really cool, especially if you enjoy his books. The collection is split up in two rooms with prewar cars in one and post war through the 60's in the other. The main downside is it is only open on weekdays during the summer. I'll try to dig up some pictures from the last time I was there.

Cussler has some phenomenal cars.

I enjoyed the Petersen museum in LA also.

[Southland 35]

Here's what I could find from the Cussler museum

 

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52331]

As we were leaving the hotel yesterday morning, some guy pulled up to the valet in a 750i Alpina. It did not sound like a bmw. 

[52-80 19074]

test drove the AWD model 3 today.  performance is identical to my car on paper (pw vs wt) and actualized.  just feels more sterile and inert due to lack of sound and suspension movement.  definitely not as "alive". 

i dont get all the nerd bois creaming themselves over "instant torque".  modern turbo motor + modern transmission yields just the same response and access to power.

overall driving response was very natural -- no adapdation required for the throttle mapping and the regen.  extremely easy to drive around.

central-control interface took a bit to get used to.  although as overall interior impression, i can see how people like it.  they really could use a heads-up display, or little transparent display a la mazda -- useful, unintrusive, and still fits in with design aesthetic.

sound system is fantastic.  sounds better than my aftermarket system. 

 

not the next coming of vehicular jesus as some of the fanatics claim.  but overall a solid car if found at the right price. 

[pepper brooks 579]

Porsche Taycan live release happening now.  

[Prepuce of Doom 20979]

 

 

[tbone_ 14020]

They’re calling an all electric car a turbo?

[pepper brooks 579]

Seriously the naming of these as traditional Porsche variants such as "turbo s" is a total mess.  It's so "not Porsche" as there is no function nor meaning behind that.  I cannot believe they did that.  They should have come up with new model designations for the various powertrains within the lineup.  They should not have used turbo s, or any of the same ones used for the combustion models. I also think starting with the release of the very top of the line "turbo" and "turbo s" is questionable.  Turbo S price starts at 185,000.  Ranger is 240 miles?  I am a bit less excited about this now than I was when it was a concept.  

Edited September 4, 2019 by pepper brooks

[Speedtrucker 2063]

Maybe it’s like my old PC 486DX66 with a turbo button.

[Prepuce of Doom 20979]

Yeah, this disregard for nomenclature (and the goddamn dictionary) is pretty egregious. It bothers me far more than BMW's foolish muddling of terms (the 4 is now the 3, the 1 is now the 2, M is now a model and a trim level, down is up, etc.) and whatever similar dumb shit that Infiniti did a few years ago is downright forgotten, because who gives a shit? 

[G650 14069]

34 minutes ago, Speedtrucker said:

Maybe it’s like my old PC 486DX66 with a turbo button.

Oh, this takes me back.

[Sam Lin 3540]

9 hours ago, G650 said:

Oh, this takes me back.

I swear mine made a difference, even after I'd upgraded to a processor that didn't have Turbo.

[Pato del Muerto 52331]

Why even have the button on those?

[pepper brooks 579]

Seems to be a sport mode kinda day


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[G650 14069]

What day isn't?

[tbone_ 14020]

Seems to be a sport mode kinda day


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0 mph. Impressive.

[pepper brooks 579]

6 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

0 mph. Impressive.

hahahahaa.  I didn't want to take a photo and drive at the same time. Trying to be safe(ish).  

[Prepuce of Doom 20979]

RIDDANCE 

/nocaps

[elfenix 34169]

On 9/5/2019 at 12:09 AM, Pato del Muerto said:

Why even have the button on those?

lots of computer cases had those buttons back in that day, so if you rolled your own PC it was possible to have the button but no turbo.

Edited September 6, 2019 by elfenix

[pepper brooks 579]

20 hours ago, tbone_ said:

0 mph. Impressive.

full tank (16 gallons) and only 178 miles to empty.  yikes.  I guess this is what happens in sport mode when you bounce the limiter off the redline every stop and drive in Houston morning/afternoon rush traffic.  my one way commute is 6 miles.  that might take up to 50 minutes since they have destroyed 59/610 with construction.  destroyed weslayan which is the main feeder into my neighborhood off 59/610 with construction.  if I go an alternate route through river oaks via allen pkwy they have construction at Allen Pkwy/shepherd backing shit up there.  its just absurd at this point.  

[Loco 3752]

Thinking about buying a Tesla 3.   What's the Surly opinion...  will I have to grow a beard and drink cold brew?

I think it fits what I want, smallish car for around town, peppy, fun to drive, and a lot of safety features/tech

[HRSchenker 2258]

On 9/4/2019 at 6:39 AM, 52-80 said:

test drove the AWD model 3 today.  performance is identical to my car on paper (pw vs wt) and actualized.  just feels more sterile and inert due to lack of sound and suspension movement.  definitely not as "alive". 

i dont get all the nerd bois creaming themselves over "instant torque".  modern turbo motor + modern transmission yields just the same response and access to power.

overall driving response was very natural -- no adapdation required for the throttle mapping and the regen.  extremely easy to drive around.

central-control interface took a bit to get used to.  although as overall interior impression, i can see how people like it.  they really could use a heads-up display, or little transparent display a la mazda -- useful, unintrusive, and still fits in with design aesthetic.

sound system is fantastic.  sounds better than my aftermarket system. 

 

not the next coming of vehicular jesus as some of the fanatics claim.  but overall a solid car if found at the right price. 

I've grown to love the lack of a heads up display. Having nothing in front of you except the road is great.

[52-80 19074]

12 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

I've grown to love the lack of a heads up display. Having nothing in front of you except the road is great.

I like my nav info displayed in the central dash.  And if Tesla wanted to be ultra Modern, they can apply augmented reality display like some of the other manufacturers have, or are putting out soon

 

 

Anyway, wish they still made a long range RWD version to drop 400# of weight.  Likely going to order the AWD this week

[Speedtrucker 2063]

I like my nav info displayed in the central dash.  And if Tesla wanted to be ultra Modern, they can apply augmented reality display like some of the other manufacturers have, or are putting out soon

 

 

Anyway, wish they still made a long range RWD version to drop 400# of weight.  Likely going to order the AWD this week

 

Meh I turn that off in Forza and all only us the braking line on tracks I’m not too familiar with.

 

Also why does it want you to accelerate into that corner? At least go yellow to coast into the turn

[Handcruser 2805]

I like my nav info displayed in the central dash.  And if Tesla wanted to be ultra Modern, they can apply augmented reality display like some of the other manufacturers have, or are putting out soon
 

 
Anyway, wish they still made a long range RWD version to drop 400# of weight.  Likely going to order the AWD this week

My mclaren has that. I turned it off. Ain’t nobody got time for that.


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[PittsburghTiger 6137]

 

Came across this. Looks really neat.

[52-80 19074]

I thought my BMW adventure was over.  I was wrong.

Last time, the fuel pump took a crap and car was towed to dealership.  When I picked up the car, I discovered that the hand brake was broken/disconnected (how the tech missed that when he parked it, beggars belief).  I took it back the next day and they got it fixed -- service advisor didn't tell me what was wrong, simply that it was fixed.  Whatever.

 

Flash forward to today, I received a letter in the mail saying "we forgot to bill you last time, please pay this bill".  It's a charge of 80 bucks for repairing the handbrake.  Even though it was basically their fault.  And if it wasn't, it's still under warranty, regardless. 

 

I can't muster the effort to fight over how insanely stupid this is.  I'm selling the car next week, and the bill is going in the trash.  Sayonara.

[Okie State 3788]

Shopping for a new vehicle for the wife since her Lexus hybrid shit the bed. She mentions the Jaguar XF Sportbrake. I have no idea how I didn't know this car existed in the US. It would be a serious contender if it wasn't $80 grand.

[Okie State 3788]

On second look, it seems as though they can be had for around $50-$55K slightly used. Very few available within 500 miles and all 2018's. Probably already gave up on them.

Edited September 13, 2019 by Okie State

[PittsburghTiger 6137]

12 hours ago, 52-80 said:

I thought my BMW adventure was over.  I was wrong.

Last time, the fuel pump took a crap and car was towed to dealership.  When I picked up the car, I discovered that the hand brake was broken/disconnected (how the tech missed that when he parked it, beggars belief).  I took it back the next day and they got it fixed -- service advisor didn't tell me what was wrong, simply that it was fixed.  Whatever.

 

Flash forward to today, I received a letter in the mail saying "we forgot to bill you last time, please pay this bill".  It's a charge of 80 bucks for repairing the handbrake.  Even though it was basically their fault.  And if it wasn't, it's still under warranty, regardless. 

 

I can't muster the effort to fight over how insanely stupid this is.  I'm selling the car next week, and the bill is going in the trash.  Sayonara.

I’m amazed at some of the shit you guys have described with your BMW SUVs

[elfenix 34169]

3 hours ago, Okie State said:

Shopping for a new vehicle for the wife since her Lexus hybrid shit the bed. She mentions the Jaguar XF Sportbrake. I have no idea how I didn't know this car existed in the US. It would be a serious contender if it wasn't $80 grand.

[sidis 9731]

14 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I’m amazed at some of the shit you guys have described with your BMW SUVs

knock on wood, i am a couple of months in and haven't had a single problem yet with any aspect of the vehicle.

[Pato del Muerto 52331]

Lol a couple of months

[G650 14069]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Lol a couple of months

I'm over a decade straight between two different ones with no major problems.

[52-80 19074]

Deposit on Tesla placed today.  of course now i am reading the horror stories about Tesla service that eclipses anything ive heard for any other brands ever

[HoustonHorn 1059]

2020 550i should be in in a couple weeks. Can't wait to check out the new engine. The '19 i drove was plenty fast but with the 850 engine in the '20, it has 523hp. May get a Dinan stage 1 to bump that up to about 600hp. May I RIP.

[sidis 9731]

Just now, HoustonHorn said:

2020 550i should be in in a couple weeks. Can't wait to check out the new engine. The '19 i drove was plenty fast but with the 850 engine in the '20, it has 523hp. May get a Dinan stage 1 to bump that up to about 600hp. May I RIP.

that sounds pretty damned nice.

[Okie State 3788]

18 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Deposit on Tesla placed today.  of course now i am reading the horror stories about Tesla service that eclipses anything ive heard for any other brands ever

Turns out they're all shitty.

[pepper brooks 579]

On 9/12/2019 at 8:23 AM, 52-80 said:

I thought my BMW adventure was over.  I was wrong.

Last time, the fuel pump took a crap and car was towed to dealership.  When I picked up the car, I discovered that the hand brake was broken/disconnected (how the tech missed that when he parked it, beggars belief).  I took it back the next day and they got it fixed -- service advisor didn't tell me what was wrong, simply that it was fixed.  Whatever.

 

Flash forward to today, I received a letter in the mail saying "we forgot to bill you last time, please pay this bill".  It's a charge of 80 bucks for repairing the handbrake.  Even though it was basically their fault.  And if it wasn't, it's still under warranty, regardless. 

 

I can't muster the effort to fight over how insanely stupid this is.  I'm selling the car next week, and the bill is going in the trash.  Sayonara.

My goodness.  some things just never seem to change.  I could literally write a book about the failings involved with the manner in which they handled my X5M shit rocket.  from the service dept, to the dealership, to BWMUSA corp, to customer care at BMWUSA corp.  It would literally blow your mind the ways in which these people tried to go in dry all of a sum of money so paltry to their organization it wouldn't register as a rounding error to a rounding error for them.  

[pepper brooks 579]

53 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Deposit on Tesla placed today.  of course now i am reading the horror stories about Tesla service that eclipses anything ive heard for any other brands ever

at least you will be well trained in dealing with terrible service and cars that routinely break down from your time with BMW.  

[pepper brooks 579]

1 hour ago, G650 said:

I'm over a decade straight between two different ones with no major problems.

do you have SUV's, or just the M cars?  I cannot recall.  I think you actually had an SAV X5M too, right?  Count your blessings.