The New Car Fanatic Thread

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3873]

1 hour ago, Goofyboy said:

Nice neighborhood. Bellaire or Rice?

Looks like West U or Southside Place to me.

Edited February 17, 2020 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[Bert Orange 1173]

24 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Looks like West U or Southside Place to me.

 

24 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Looks like West U or Southside Place to me.

Bellaire

[Atxracer 798]

Really good looking car. Congrats!

[sidis 10017]

On 2/16/2020 at 6:31 AM, G650 said:

People make tractors fast all the time.

 

 

On 2/16/2020 at 8:26 AM, Atxracer said:

Hah, point taken. But, in the context, more meant ones that can turn. 

 

dude named ferruccio did once...and we see how that turned out.

 

On 2/16/2020 at 7:44 AM, Bert Orange said:

Wife’s failed experiment with the Range Rover (as expected) is over. Just put her in a GLS63. Have to say, I enjoy driving the hell out of that mommy wagon. It sounds mean as hell. 

your wife is not wrong.  fuck range rover.  absolutely awful awful shit.

[G650 14437]

3 minutes ago, sidis said:

 

 

dude named ferruccio did once...and we see how that turned out.

 

 

I keep threatening to import a Lambo tractor for my landscape gang.

[tbone_ 14449]

Uh, that tractor isn’t built for speed.

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

I keep threatening to import a Lambo tractor for my landscape gang.

The Lambo tractors understeer. It’s all about managing the liftoff oversteer with the loud pedal on these babies.

[Buzzrock 15136]

Public thanks to Atxracer.  Traveling so been bit out of touch but his guy is as good as anyone in a race to see who can deliver fastest on the Taycan Turbo S.  Gonna go drive one to be sure but seems like a clear cut winnah.  This place has it all.  

Good luck on the Taycan. And if you need a beater I know there there’s a pretty clean low mileage Murci SV for $200K. You just have to figure out how to get it out of China.

In other news: pretty entertaining (if old) article on luxury straw buyers.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a21777248/how-i-bought-millions-of-dollars-worth-of-luxury-cars-and-got-blacklisted-by-jaguar-land-rover-mercedes-and-porsche/

[noharleyyet 2864]

22 hours ago, Bert Orange said:

Beauty....how does the housekeeper like the Rover?

[conVINCEd 21477]

16 minutes ago, noharleyyet said:

Beauty....how does the housekeeper like the Rover?

She’ll like it just fine until the warranty ends.

[Prepuce of Doom 21286]

 

 

[Bert Orange 1173]

9 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

She’ll like it just fine until the warranty ends.

Truth. She wouldn’t even take it. Guess she knows it’s a POS 

[troph 25227]

Good luck on the Taycan. And if you need a beater I know there there’s a pretty clean low mileage Murci SV for $200K. You just have to figure out how to get it out of China.

In other news: pretty entertaining (if old) article on luxury straw buyers.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a21777248/how-i-bought-millions-of-dollars-worth-of-luxury-cars-and-got-blacklisted-by-jaguar-land-rover-mercedes-and-porsche/

Great article.

Loved the last line here, I might use it.

The manufacturers and their dealers have worked to design a foolproof system that will prevent you from buying a car to export to another country. Foolproof never works, though, as it underestimates the ingenuity of the fool.

[Prepuce of Doom 21286]

The world lost an F40 today, despite the best efforts of that dude on the balcony. 

 

[PittsburghTiger 6345]

2 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

The world lost an F40 today, despite the best efforts of that dude on the balcony. 

 

That guy is a hero. That's also an awesome photo.

[Pato del Muerto 53508]

How do we feel about the engine swap taking place here?

 

[G650 14437]

Fairly typical. I guess people can get upset about not keeping it real, but whatever. I would stick vintage myself, but it's a free country.

[PittsburghTiger 6345]

For me it all depends on what someone wants to do with the car. My 1968 Riviera still has its original motor. I only have 60,000 miles on the car. But I am going to upgrade the original drums to disks and thinking about fuel injection.

I just want to feel safe while driving the car, and in the end, to me it is a car and needs to be driven.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

That's heresy, IMO. Blasphemy most foul.

Get some other classic car with a less unique engine if you want to tart it up.

Turn a Catalina into a pseudo GTO, or a Skylark into a pseudo GS.  Hell, even a Cutlass or a Chevelle or something.

Don't fuck with a 389 six-pack.

Edited February 21, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[tbone_ 14449]

Yea if it’s original got to keep it

[Pato del Muerto 53508]

It’s already not a six pack though if it’s got an efi conversion. 
the other thing is that if it is the original motor, selling that power train instead of keeping it is a head scratcher. 

[TwiceHorn 32079]

2 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Yea if it’s original got to keep it

I'm not going to go that far.  But it is a GTO with a 389 Six-Pack.  That's got to be a rare vehicle by now and a big part of its character is that six-bbl intake.  That particular car you don't fuck with.

If you want to make a 60s muscle car with modern accoutrement, fine.  Just don't start with a rare classic.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It’s already not a six pack though if it’s got an efi conversion. 
the other thing is that if it is the original motor, selling that power train instead of keeping it is a head scratcher. 

I stopped where it said TriPower intake and Rochester carbs.  I dunno wtf that dude's talking about.

[Pato del Muerto 53508]

Yeah are the jets spraying into the carbs or what?  Says the carbs are synced, so that implies they aren’t just there ornamentally. 

[G650 14437]

389 Six-pack is no unicorn or anything. I'm not super flustered about this.

 

A 429 Boss or something is a different beast.

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

389 Six-pack is no unicorn or anything. I'm not super flustered about this.
 
A 429 Boss or something is a different beast.

Agree. Jimmies remain unrustled.

[Sam Lin 3599]

#teamLSswapeverything

[tbone_ 14449]

I'm not going to go that far.  But it is a GTO with a 389 Six-Pack.  That's got to be a rare vehicle by now and a big part of its character is that six-bbl intake.  That particular car you don't fuck with.
If you want to make a 60s muscle car with modern accoutrement, fine.  Just don't start with a rare classic.

I just meant in that car. If that’s the original motor you have to keep it.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

1 minute ago, tbone_ said:

I just meant in that car. If that’s the original motor you have to keep it.

You could certainly argue that a 66 GTO ought not be fucked with and I wouldn't fight you.

[G650 14437]

There's certainly a valid argument that splitting the matching numbers up is not a good call, but I just want to reiterate they made almost 100,000 GTOs in 1966. It isn't something super rare.

[Loco 3754]

It's their car, who gives a shit?    I had a neighbor with '68 Shelby GT350 numbers matching.  He wanted to actually drive the car, so he hired a red neck to put in modern EFI 350 (with more HP) and drove that around all the time.  Kept the numbers matching motor in storage so the next guy would have the option.  In my opinion it comes down to how you want to use the car...  Something to look at or something to use.

[tbone_ 14449]

If you take the original 389 with 3 deuces out of a fucking 66 gto you have to keep it. You cannot split those up. There is no other answer. It’s an affront to all thing holy. I don’t care if they made 1,000,000 of them. They aren’t making any more.

[Loco 3754]

Just now, tbone_ said:

If you take the original 389 with 3 deuces out of a fucking 66 gto you have to keep it. You cannot split those up. There is no other answer. It’s an affront to all thing holy. I don’t care if they made 1,000,000 of them. They aren’t making any more.

Same can be said of the Pinto.  It's just metal, relax

 

Also Team Buick

[TwiceHorn 32079]

And they are 50 years old.  And although from a statistical standpoint, their numerosity increases their likelihood of survival, the same numerosity decreases their likelihood of survival, because people actually drove them, and wrecked them, and scrapped them.

[G650 14437]

I find a random GTO a strange hill to die on.

[Bert Orange 1173]

So i shouldn’t be modding new cars, because in 50 years someone will claim blasphemy?

[tbone_ 14449]

What can I say. I like pontiacs and I like gtos.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

7 minutes ago, Bert Orange said:

So i shouldn’t be modding new cars, because in 50 years someone will claim blasphemy?

No, we're talking about relatively senseless mods to 50 year old cars no longer in production of some degree of rarity.

Buy a fucking Mustang.

[tbone_ 14449]

What can I say. I like pontiacs and I like gtos.

[G650 14437]

3 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

What can I say. I like pontiacs and I like gtos.

 

Me too,  I love an old GTO. But we aren't talking about a 69 Judge here.

 

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

 

Buy a fucking Mustang.

Yeah, it's the same thing. That's kind of the point.

[tbone_ 14449]

If it was a Camaro or a Chevelle I’d agree. But I think Pontiac motors are unique.

[G650 14437]

2 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

If it was a Camaro or a Chevelle I’d agree. But I think Pontiac motors are unique.

The 389? They made like infinity billion of those.

[tbone_ 14449]

If it was a Camaro or a Chevelle I’d agree. But I think Pontiac motors are unique.

[Anastasis 23720]

Swap if you want. But you are dumbass if you don’t keep the engine and put it storage imo. 

[G650 14437]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Swap if you want. But you are dumbass if you don’t keep the engine and put it storage imo. 

Yeah, I'd agree with this.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

24 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

Me too,  I love an old GTO. But we aren't talking about a 69 Judge here.

 

Yeah, it's the same thing. That's kind of the point.

I mean, I just don't get people who buy 50 year old cars and then do a half-ass update for modern "driveability."  So now you have a fuel-injected V8, the rest of the running gear comparatively sucks.  If you want to gut it and build it from the frame up, do it with a less-rare car.

I might suggest also that a suspension/running gear update gets more bang for your buck.  As noted in this thread, not much wrong with a carbureted V8 from the 60s.

If you just want a retro-looking modern car, buy a late-model Mustang, Camaro, or Challenger.

Get the old car because you love the old car and are willing to deal with its idiosyncrasies.

Edited February 22, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Loco 3754]

18 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

What can I say. I like pontiacs and I like gtos and fake hood scoops.

fify

[Loco 3754]

9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I mean, I just don't get people who buy 50 year old cars and then do a half-ass update for modern "driveability."  So now you have a fuel-injected V8, the rest of the running gear comparatively sucks.  If you want to gut it and build it from the frame up, do it with a less-rare car.

If you just want a retro-looking modern car, buy a late-model Mustang, Camaro, or Challenger.

Get the old car because you love the old car and are willing to deal with its idiosyncrasies.

I like resto mods.  Old school style with modern performance.  I think the brakes/suspension/engine/stereo need to be done together.  But I'd buy an appropriate vehicle for that type of change over.

I put a V8 and disk brakes on my 72' Landcruiser and I'd do it again.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

2 minutes ago, Loco said:

I like resto mods.  Old school style with modern performance.  I think the brakes/suspension/engine/stereo need to be done together.  But I'd buy an appropriate vehicle for that type of change over.

I put a V8 and disk brakes on my 72' Landcruiser and I'd do it again.

Yeah I just edited my post to mention that the engine really should be a fairly low priority on a resto-mod.

And all of this retro-grouching kind of assumes that the 66 GTO referenced was fairly original, given that it still had the 389 6pack in fairly good condition.  Would be a different story if it was clapped out, which it might be.

Edited February 22, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[G650 14437]

17 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

  If you want to gut it and build it from the frame up, do it with a less-rare car.

I mean, I don't know how many other ways it can be said, but in plain English there is literally nothing rare about this car.

 

As far as all the resto mod stuff, it's fun. Would I personally do what this dude is doing? No. But there's all kind of fun stuff you can do with old cars. It's cool to have all original stuff with associated quirks, and it's cool to mod them and see what happens. Modding cars is the whole basis for car culture anyway. If you aren't a hot rodder then just drive a Prius.

 

One of my long held wacky dreams is to make the ultimate sleeper and take a late 70s LTD, make it AWD with modern traction control and a super HO engine, and just go blow people's doors off at red lights. Which probably shows my age, because the ultimate sleeper now would be a mid 90s Buick Skylark or some shit, people would see the LTD and know something is up.

Edited February 22, 2020 by G650
I can't spell.