The New Car Fanatic Thread

[Chewbacca 7664]

I've been in the silly SUV game since the 5.9 Jeep Cherokee, the O.G. silly SUV.

Any Cayenne Turbos in there? That's the silly SUV I want.

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

I also saw a maroon Typhoon today. 
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Can you imagine illegally daily driving this around town? 
 

[G650 13728]

9 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

10 hours ago, G650 said:

I've been in the silly SUV game since the 5.9 Jeep Cherokee, the O.G. silly SUV.

Any Cayenne Turbos in there? That's the silly SUV I want.

I drove the first generation Cayenne from Virginia to Boston and back and I can say without reservation it is unequivocally the biggest piece of shit I've ever been behind the wheel of, and it put me off ever getting a Cayenne.

 

Plus I hate Porsche.

[Atxracer 797]

11 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Any Cayenne Turbos in there? That's the silly SUV I want.

From the rose colored glasses point of view, haven't really followed when the GTS with the 8 cylinder comes out or if it is already out but I would make sure you try that one too.  We had a 14 GTS and got rid of it for the current model Turbo and I think I liked the GTS better.  The Turbo is definitely faster.  But, the GTS sounded better and drove much tighter.  The Turbo is a little wavy and feels more like a grocery getter than a Porsche. 

[TwiceHorn 30966]

15 minutes ago, Atxracer said:

From the rose colored glasses point of view, haven't really followed when the GTS with the 8 cylinder comes out or if it is already out but I would make sure you try that one too.  We had a 14 GTS and got rid of it for the current model Turbo and I think I liked the GTS better.  The Turbo is definitely faster.  But, the GTS sounded better and drove much tighter.  The Turbo is a little wavy and feels more like a grocery getter than a Porsche. 

I suppose Porsche is selling the shit out of the SUVs, and Panameras, so they are succumbing to the family truckster trend maybe in the worst possible way?

On my new car quest, I deliberately avoided driving any Porsches, particularly the Cayenne and Macan.  It was more than I wanted to spend, regardless, but I imagine I could have been seduced.

I'm a car guy, but I'm also financially conservative and acknowledge that cars are a terrible "investment."  I have always managed to find something interesting and fun to drive without spending a ton of money.  It's even worse now that I am on the glide slope to retirement.  By all objective measures, we should be "set."  But all the uncertainty in the world still makes me worry.

Edited August 29, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Chewbacca 7664]

From the rose colored glasses point of view, haven't really followed when the GTS with the 8 cylinder comes out or if it is already out but I would make sure you try that one too.  We had a 14 GTS and got rid of it for the current model Turbo and I think I liked the GTS better.  The Turbo is definitely faster.  But, the GTS sounded better and drove much tighter.  The Turbo is a little wavy and feels more like a grocery getter than a Porsche. 

I have driven a GTS and loved it. It was an 18. Have not driven a Turbo yet.

[Hefeweizen 5305]

6 hours ago, G650 said:

I drove the first generation Cayenne from Virginia to Boston and back and I can say without reservation it is unequivocally the biggest piece of shit I've ever been behind the wheel of, and it put me off ever getting a Cayenne.

 

Plus I hate Porsche.

Interesting.  My wife really likes the Macan, but I have a phobia of Porsche because of my height and family always hated them.  So I have mixed feelings.  One of my neighbors raves about the cayenne but he’s 80 .

[Prepuce of Doom 20948]

My boss loves her Cayenne Turbo S but she's a nearly 70 year old woman who lives in Beverly Hills, so her opinion is similarly useless. I wouldn't be surprised if the 72-way massaging seats were her favorite feature. 

A hotel I stayed at in San Diego once back in 2014 or '15 was having some sort of informal Porsche promotion where they had a couple cars around that guests could take out for a couple of hours. A colleague, his wife, my wife, and I took a Panamera e-hybrid up into the canyons and had a lot of fun, at least until my driving made my colleague's wife car sick. It would have been nice to know that she was prone to such things (because I wouldn't have gone anywhere with them) but our plan was for me to drive us out, and my colleague to drive us back. So my drive wasn't spoiled as much as everyone else's was. 

When we got back to the hotel, the Cayenne GTS had been returned (can't remember if it was the V8 or TTV6) so my colleague and I took it out for just a half hour or so, and I left the whole thing much more impressed with the Cayenne than the Panamera, despite my general dislike of SUVs and preference for riding lower to the ground. 

Edited August 30, 2020 by Prepuce of Doom

[Chewbacca 7664]

Cayenne is the most car like SUV I've driven.

[Prepuce of Doom 20948]

There's a yellow Urus that I've seen around my neighborhood lately. It looks like a toy Tonka truck fucked an Aztek. 

[G650 13728]

Dealer just got the first DBX

 

[pepper brooks 578]

On 8/28/2020 at 8:21 PM, Chewbacca said:

On 8/28/2020 at 7:22 PM, G650 said:

I've been in the silly SUV game since the 5.9 Jeep Cherokee, the O.G. silly SUV.

Any Cayenne Turbos in there? That's the silly SUV I want.

My wife has one.  We have had it for two years.  I personally like the better body kit, lower ride, and overall package of the GTS, but the 530hp in the turbo is a game changer.  The thing is an absolute beast when you need it to be, comfortable when you need that, and total workhorse on road trips.  It is our second Cayenne.  In 2 years we have put 40k miles on the thing, and zero shot my wife will drive anything else at this point.  Bonus for me that i like to drive it when i am not driving my cars.  

[Buzzrock 14790]

Dealer just got the first DBX
 

Just for gods sake don’t put it in a Bond movie.

Aston grocery getters. 2020 is the worst.

[Pato del Muerto 52184]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

 

Just for gods sake don’t put it in a Bond movie.

Aston grocery getters. 2020 is the worst.

 

Tell me then how James is supposed to get 5 girls up to his chalet for the fffffm?

[G650 13728]

8 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

 

Just for gods sake don’t put it in a Bond movie.

Aston grocery getters. 2020 is the worst.

Man, nobody drives to the grocery store anymore

[McCroskey 1486]

17 hours ago, G650 said:

Dealer just got the first DBX

 

Wow.  Quite lovely.

[Buzzrock 14790]

I feel like it’s one of those memes.

Nobody:

Aston Martin: Announcing our new station wagon!

[Prepuce of Doom 20948]

Please don't call that a station wagon. 

While I have no doubt that some amazing engineering and routine defiance of physics makes it more fun and capable than it has any right to be, it is most certainly not a wagon. 

Edited September 1, 2020 by Prepuce of Doom

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

We will now call it the Aston Martin CX-7.

[G650 13728]

lol.

[Prepuce of Doom 20948]

56 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

We will now call it the Aston Martin CX-007.

Fify. 

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Fify. 

Damnit. Perfect.

[G650 13728]

30 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Fify. 

God dammit how did I miss that opportunity

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Y’all ready for the $100k Jeep (probably)?

 

It’s also bringing back McIntosh audio in a car for the first time in 20 years.

 

[TwiceHorn 30966]

Who had McIntosh before?  Does it have tubes?  

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

The Ford GT did in 2003 apparently. So that would make it not quite 20 years.

Also, they made components in the 90s.

[TwiceHorn 30966]

18 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

The Ford GT did in 2003 apparently. So that would make it not quite 20 years.

Also, they made components in the 90s.

I was not aware that they were foreign-owned for a good while, including by Clarion, which probably explains that.

[Prepuce of Doom 20948]

15 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Who had McIntosh before?  Does it have tubes?  

My winter beater (2004 Subaru Outback 3.0 VDC with 212,000 miles and no muffler that still somehow manages to pass inspection) has a McIntosh stereo. The radio works okay some of the time and terrible some of the time, a couple of the speakers are blown, and the six disc changer tries to eat CDs often enough that I've simply quit feeding it. I have no idea whether it has tubes though. 

Can't wait to see how poorly they hold up when surrounded by Jeep. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Prepuce of Doom

[G650 13728]

21 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said:

Y’all ready for the $100k Jeep (probably)?

 

It’s also bringing back McIntosh audio in a car for the first time in 20 years.

 

Nice looking unit. I just suspect it handles like an aircraft carrier like the Tahoe/Suburban. The nostalgia is certainly tuggin pretty hard right now though I have to admit.

[TwiceHorn 30966]

The critical question, though; will there be a woody?

[Okie State 3732]

I'd obviously prefer an older model, but if I was in the market for a full-size SUV I'd be interested. My wife doesn't understand how a 'Jeep' can cost $100K. I tried to explain that an Escalade was a Chevy and a Navigator was a Ford, but she didn't get it.

[G650 13728]

3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The critical question, though; will there be a woody?

Indeed

[elfenix 34153]

hai we're gonna make a navigator lol
 - jeep, probably

[fattyflattie 4636]

39 minutes ago, Okie State said:

I'd obviously prefer an older model, but if I was in the market for a full-size SUV I'd be interested. My wife doesn't understand how a 'Jeep' can cost $100K. I tried to explain that an Escalade was a Chevy and a Navigator was a Ford, but she didn't get it.

But it was a good question.  I probably wouldn't buy it for 50k.  It's a Jeep, and everything that comes with that.  Nostalgia, and cheap things breaking like cheap things do.  Would like to have my old Cherokee back for a beater, though. 

[Okie State 3732]

But it was a good question.  I probably wouldn't buy it for 50k.  It's a Jeep, and everything that comes with that.  Nostalgia, and cheap things breaking like cheap things do.  Would like to have my old Cherokee back for a beater, though. 

I guess. It's all marketing and rebadging. Jeep has done some good things with their interiors on the Grand Cherokee and this seems to be a step up from that. It won't be an Audi, but a Tahoe is overpriced and people can't get enough of them.

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

People pay 100k for Escalades which are in the running for biggest piece of shit on the road. They will buy this. I say that I’m no fan of FCA/Stellantis/whatever it is.

 

Although, it is still technically a concept only, but it looks pretty close to production ready.

[fattyflattie 4636]

12 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

People pay 100k for Escalades which are in the running for biggest piece of shit on the road.

I can take a Tahoe/Suburban to 300k miles with oil changes, brakes, batteries.   I’ve done it, and am in process of doing it again.  I felt pretty lucky about the 150k we got out of our cherokees, GC’s, and liberty.    

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

I can take a Tahoe/Suburban to 300k miles with oil changes, brakes, batteries.   I’ve done it, and am in process of doing it again.  I felt pretty lucky about the 150k we got out of our cherokees, GC’s, and liberty.    

Tahoe/Suburban aren’t as bad. It’s all the fancy stuff that breaks on the Escalade, and parts are expensive as hell.

[fattyflattie 4636]

13 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

Tahoe/Suburban aren’t as bad. It’s all the fancy stuff that breaks on the Escalade, and parts are expensive as hell.

I hear you. Wife has a Denali.  But we’ve been somewhat fortunate. 

[Okie State 3732]

I'm not arguing that any of these are worth $100K. That's the market though.

[fattyflattie 4636]

27 minutes ago, Okie State said:

I'm not arguing that any of these are worth $100K. That's the market though.

I've learned recently that won't even get you an 8 yo wake boat...

But yeah, there's a reason I posted upthread about trying to put another Yukon to 300k

[ChickenSandwich 9775]

 

[Prepuce of Doom 20948]

From the front corner angle, there's a little bit of the last generation of Prelude to the hood (maybe even a dash of S2000 to the headlights?) and some CRX to the roofline and hatch shape. 

 

Edited September 9, 2020 by Prepuce of Doom

[tbone_ 14016]

RE: the Tahoe/Escalade discussion above...Last year I bought a fully loaded Tahoe. Stickered at $69ish and I paid $55. I’ll drive it to infinity. Seems like not too bad a deal to me.

 

Escalade would have cost what 20-30k more?

 

[Okie State 3732]

 

Why the fuck would anybody buy this?

[ChickenSandwich 9775]

He was a ginger, 140lbs soaking wet. Pale as a ghost 

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Why the fuck would anybody buy this?

When you actually look at the details, it really is ugly as hell.

[royiv 9112]

2 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said:

When you actually look at the details, it really is ugly as hell.

Lamborghini Aztek

[conVINCEd 21468]

I prefer my sports car manufacturers to make sports cars, and my SUV manufacturers to make SUVs.  I am as big of a Porsche fanboy as you will ever find, and I think anything they produce with more than 2 doors looks like shit.  Lambos aren’t my jam, but I can certainly see why people like what they do.  That ugly piece of scrap metal bears no resemblance to any car Lamborghini has ever produced.

[Sam Lin 3538]

It just looks cheap. There's no coherent design language to it, there's no perception of value, the car has no 'presence.' Looks like a generic CUV with a hideous body kit.

Friend spotted this one in HKG. I see them fairly often around Bangkok.