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Double or nothing?


Let’s see who wins the Republican primary first.

There’s most likely going to be a runoff and their race has been savage and bloody. Drawing it out another few weeks and giving them more time to cause bitterness among voters and less time to unify is very good.

If it’s Jones v. Tuberville? I like Jones’s chances.
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1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:

 


Let’s see who wins the Republican primary first.

There’s most likely going to be a runoff and their race has been savage and bloody. Drawing it out another few weeks and giving them more time to cause bitterness among voters and less time to unify is very good.

If it’s Jones v. Tuberville? I like Jones’s chances.

 

Does Tuberville have a chance? Him being an actual senate nominee is peak SEC country. Isn't Sessions the no-brainer?

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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Yeah the idea that a bunch of Republicans were going to flood the Dem polls is laughable. I'd been looking at #OperationChaos on Twitter and it's a tiny handful of MAGA freaks.

Per above, perhaps 1 in 4 SC supporters of Sen Sanders.  only half joking.

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Cool? Do i have control over everyone that is a Bernie supporter? Me and every Bernie supporter i know in real life is voting for the nominee regardless. It's freakung February still, we have a long way to go it appears. I think Biden gets smoked by Trump but I'll vote for his senile ass regardless.


What does your response have to do with what I said in regards to your initial post of “Who cares about SC? It’s a red state come November.”?

I didn’t say anything about Bros sitting out in the general. And I wasn’t making a generalization about all Bernie supporters - I was talking specifically about you.

You pointed out that SC will go red in November as if to belittle the primary results and imply that these votes don’t really matter because it’s ultimately a red state.

And knowing who you support, that sounds like sour grapes.

Iowa is likely to go red in November too but I didn’t hear the same energy from you when Bernie won there. Hillary won NH by .4% in 2016 and could easily go red this year - yet no comment on that when Bernie won.

All we’ve been hearing is “Iowa and NH are too white and not representative of the Democratic Party as a whole!” and now we get to a state that is and your first response is “Who cares, SC is going red in November.”.

A red state cannot become a purple/swing state and eventually a blue state if the DNC and Democrats elsewhere ignore them.
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13 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Does Tuberville have a chance? Him being an actual senate nominee is peak SEC country. Isn't Sessions the no-brainer?

So far, we only have one primary poll to go on that includes Sessions, but it provides some positive news for him, albeit from a friendly source. The Club for Growth, a conservative advocacy group that pushed for Sessions to run, released a survey that found Sessions leading the Republican field with 36 percent of Republican primary voters supporting him, ahead of former Auburn University football coach Tommy Tuberville’s 23 percent, while Rep. Bradley Byrne and former Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court Roy Moore (who lost the 2017 special election to Jones) each had 11 percent. And although he led that poll, Sessions’s support would still be insufficient to avoid a primary runoff, as Alabama is one of seven states that requires a candidate to win a majority of the vote in order to capture the nomination.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/jeff-sessions-might-struggle-to-win-back-his-old-senate-seat/

Don't forget how much Trump despises Sessions. I'm having a hard time imagining him supporting him. 

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9 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 


What does your response have to do with what I said in regards to your initial post of “Who cares about SC? It’s a red state come November.”?

I didn’t say anything about Bros sitting out in the general. And I wasn’t making a generalization about all Bernie supporters - I was talking specifically about you.

You pointed out that SC will go red in November as if to belittle the primary results and imply that these votes don’t really matter because it’s ultimately a red state.

And knowing who you support, that sounds like sour grapes.

Iowa is likely to go red in November too but I didn’t hear the same energy from you when Bernie won there. Hillary won NH by .4% in 2016 and could easily go red this year - yet no comment on that when Bernie won.

All we’ve been hearing is “Iowa and NH are too white and not representative of the Democratic Party as a whole!” and now we get to a state that is and your first response is “Who cares, SC is going red in November.”.


A red state cannot become a purple/swing state and eventually a blue state if the DNC and Democrats elsewhere ignore them.

 

These two paragraphs are full of projection. You also are completely ignoring Nevada too which doesn't have a majority race, why is that? Nevada is also a swing state generally.

I'm merely stating that people who live in states that almost certainly don't matter in the general election behave differently than those that do. I gave my own family as an example unfortunately. Not everything is as homogeneous across the country as you want to believe, voters in SC are different than voters in GA than voters in CA than voters in WI.

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7 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Iowa is likely to go red in November too but I didn’t hear the same energy from you when Bernie won there. 

 

Good post, but Pete won Iowa and was awarded the most delegates. 

Yes, that's all I have as a Pete supporter moving forward. But he won. 

 

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5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

That was a really shitty speech for someone who won so bigly.

Of course MSNBC is fawning all over it, but it was thoroughly uninspiring.

That was a solid speech that will appeal to his voters and was much better than his prior efforts. Hopefully it restores some order to this primary and keeps it from going off the rails with Karl Marx Jr as Howard Stern likes to say.

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2 minutes ago, Brew said:

That was a solid speech that will appeal to his voters and was much better than his prior efforts. Hopefully it restores some order to this primary and keeps it from going off the rails with Karl Marx Jr as Howard Stern likes to say.

Joe Biden is going to get the shit kicked out of him in 72 hours.

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8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Joe Biden is going to get the shit kicked out of him in 72 hours.

Hopefully this 30%+ win swings some people. Still a few days to go. CA is pretty well done, the others are reasonably close.

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Biden will get destroyed on Tuesday.


Eh, I don’t think he’ll get destroyed.

The states voting are -


Alabama - victory, no RCP numbers but the 538 chart shows him with a 61% chance of winning
Arkansas - good chance of victory, RCP has him a close second to Bloomberg and the SC victory could give him the momentum
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California - no shot, RCP polling has him third
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Colorado - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Maine - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
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Massachusetts - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Minnesota - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
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North Carolina - RCP has him winning, SC results should help
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Oklahoma - should win, RCP has him first
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Tennessee - no RCP numbers, neck in neck with Sanders at 39% of winning according to the 538 chart
Texas - RCP polling has him second, today’s results could give him a boost
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Utah -
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Vermont - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Virginia - RCP has him third
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After Super Tuesday I predict the race will be down to Sanders and Biden and I expect to see most of the others in the moderate lane to drop out, especially if the DNC/establishment applies pressure.

It will hinge on what Bloomberg does. If he stubbornly stays in, Sanders will win. If he drops then Biden has a shot.

I will find it absolutely hilarious if Sanders wins because of Bloomberg especially because the conventional wisdom is that Bloomberg jumped in because he didn’t want Sanders or Warren to win.

Owning yourself to spite the libs! And spending a billion dollars to do it!
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1 hour ago, BradInATX said:

Does Tuberville have a chance? Him being an actual senate nominee is peak SEC country. Isn't Sessions the no-brainer?

He has a chance. But Alabama is so SEC that he won't get any U of Alabama votes even if they agree with him politically. Auburn is second fiddle. 

But Sessions bit the Trump hand. That gives Tuberville a shot in the GOP primary, and the Tide gives Jones a chance to beat Tuberville in the general. 

Peak SEC for sure. 

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Gotta love it.

The two oldest white dudes and two out of my bottom three least favorites are going to be the last two standing.

sigh

They’re both still a trillion times better than Trump though so I’ll happily vote for either.

I wonder if Joe will pull a surprise move and announce an inspiring VP before the convention.

Naming someone like Harris or Abrams or Booker or Warren could be gamechanger if the race is close.

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14 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 


Eh, I don’t think he’ll get destroyed.

The states voting are -


Alabama - victory, no RCP numbers but the 538 chart shows him with a 61% chance of winning
Arkansas - good chance of victory, RCP has him a close second to Bloomberg and the SC victory could give him the momentum
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California - no shot, RCP polling has him third
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Colorado - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Maine - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
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Massachusetts - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Minnesota - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
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North Carolina - RCP has him winning, SC results should help
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Oklahoma - should win, RCP has him first
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Tennessee - no RCP numbers, neck in neck with Sanders at 39% of winning according to the 538 chart
Texas - RCP polling has him second, today’s results could give him a boost
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Utah -
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Vermont - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Virginia - RCP has him third
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After Super Tuesday I predict the race will be down to Sanders and Biden and I expect to see most of the others in the moderate lane to drop out, especially if the DNC/establishment applies pressure.

It will hinge on what Bloomberg does. If he stubbornly stays in, Sanders will win. If he drops then Biden has a shot.

I will find it absolutely hilarious if Sanders wins because of Bloomberg especially because the conventional wisdom is that Bloomberg jumped in because he didn’t want Sanders or Warren to win.

Owning yourself to spite the libs! And spending a billion dollars to do it!

 

My worry about Biden is that you're right.  He's a shitty candidate with no money and no org at this point.  Up until tonight, he's consistently underperformed his poll numbers so I've always taken the forward looking numbers with a grain of salt.

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5 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

It’s a little late for Biden on the money front.  He has no org and hasn’t campaigned in any of these states.

As much as we've had disagreements, this is very true. A lot of early voting has already taken place for Super Tuesday and Biden was nowhere near the top of fundraising and he didn't visit any states until yesterday I think. He'll get a huge bump after this though and will probably be in it for the long haul.

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38 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 


Eh, I don’t think he’ll get destroyed.

The states voting are -


Alabama - victory, no RCP numbers but the 538 chart shows him with a 61% chance of winning
Arkansas - good chance of victory, RCP has him a close second to Bloomberg and the SC victory could give him the momentum
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California - no shot, RCP polling has him third
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Colorado - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Maine - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
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Massachusetts - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Minnesota - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
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North Carolina - RCP has him winning, SC results should help
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Oklahoma - should win, RCP has him first
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Tennessee - no RCP numbers, neck in neck with Sanders at 39% of winning according to the 538 chart
Texas - RCP polling has him second, today’s results could give him a boost
b6bd1531c31a8b795a89aa3495fba17b.jpg
Utah -
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Vermont - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Virginia - RCP has him third
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After Super Tuesday I predict the race will be down to Sanders and Biden and I expect to see most of the others in the moderate lane to drop out, especially if the DNC/establishment applies pressure.

It will hinge on what Bloomberg does. If he stubbornly stays in, Sanders will win. If he drops then Biden has a shot.

I will find it absolutely hilarious if Sanders wins because of Bloomberg especially because the conventional wisdom is that Bloomberg jumped in because he didn’t want Sanders or Warren to win.

Owning yourself to spite the libs! And spending a billion dollars to do it!

 

 

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5 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

As much as we've had disagreements, this is very true. A lot of early voting has already taken place for Super Tuesday and Biden was nowhere near the top of fundraising and he didn't visit any states until yesterday I think. He'll get a huge bump after this though and will probably be in it for the long haul.

Yeah, a lot of early votes have already been cast and I haven’t seen one Biden ad.

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41 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 


Eh, I don’t think he’ll get destroyed.

The states voting are -


Alabama - victory, no RCP numbers but the 538 chart shows him with a 61% chance of winning
Arkansas - good chance of victory, RCP has him a close second to Bloomberg and the SC victory could give him the momentum
37361f5145bed9f2a03a1c2b408cf6eb.jpg
California - no shot, RCP polling has him third
16e4ab55853896e16b62083b19ec476a.jpg
Colorado - no shot, RCP has him fifth
0f1b963a21a329243c654a1eaa6381fc.jpg
Maine - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
f5e5a8f96b940fc24212a6e58c2c65f7.jpg
Massachusetts - no shot, RCP has him fifth
e7de657e16412bdb2c89f84efe6ad621.jpg
Minnesota - won’t win, RCP has him fourth
cc655a1c20952d586fe3f04ee082ea7a.jpg
North Carolina - RCP has him winning, SC results should help
13b44f91abd5937d6578fb7ab39f73ac.jpg
Oklahoma - should win, RCP has him first
2aa6a17c3d89129244c43a17538d4170.jpg
Tennessee - no RCP numbers, neck in neck with Sanders at 39% of winning according to the 538 chart
Texas - RCP polling has him second, today’s results could give him a boost
b6bd1531c31a8b795a89aa3495fba17b.jpg
Utah -
089304405599af2f29cac8446b62402d.jpg
Vermont - no shot, RCP has him fifth
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Virginia - RCP has him third
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662ccafed5dcfd725e8531daac6ec8d7.jpg

After Super Tuesday I predict the race will be down to Sanders and Biden and I expect to see most of the others in the moderate lane to drop out, especially if the DNC/establishment applies pressure.

It will hinge on what Bloomberg does. If he stubbornly stays in, Sanders will win. If he drops then Biden has a shot.

I will find it absolutely hilarious if Sanders wins because of Bloomberg especially because the conventional wisdom is that Bloomberg jumped in because he didn’t want Sanders or Warren to win.

Owning yourself to spite the libs! And spending a billion dollars to do it!

 

I get the laughing at Bloomberg except the billion dollars part.   That’s a couple % points of his net worth.  Peanuts.  

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1 hour ago, Message Board User said:

8:53 PM

With 38 percent of precincts reporting, Sanders has only barely cut into Biden’s lead. It’s Biden 50 percent, Sanders 19 percent, Steyer 12 percent, Buttigieg 7 percent, Warren 6 percent, Klobuchar 3 percent and Gabbard 1 percent.

She pulled Sara Palin's the "guys who want to bang a politician vote."

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1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I get the laughing at Bloomberg except the billion dollars part.   That’s a couple % points of his net worth.  Peanuts.  

Bloomberg has staffed offices and pre bought ad time in every single state.  No one else can say that.

Any raised $12M after NH and still couldn’t find a campaign bus is Las Vegas.

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2 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Bloomberg has staffed offices and pre bought ad time in every single state.  No one else can say that.

Any raised $12M after NH and still couldn’t find a campaign bus is Las Vegas.

Yes if he isn’t a petulant bitch and really wants Trump out he can really help whoever gets the nod.  But I don’t think his ego will allow him to help anyone else topple Trump.  
 

Edit:   Why didn’t he run as the Republican light and make sure Trump lost?   

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1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Whether the 2nd tier candidates drop out or not, they're going to start losing voters to Biden as voters become more strategic in their NEVER-BERNIE thinking.

Those of us in the middle of the road can only hope.

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