Super Tuesday - 1,357 Delegates at Stake

[Bookman 4722]

I wonder how long until Trump is locked up?

[NWBuck 8590]

8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

He's already said he's going to support whomever is the Democratic nominee. He can spend ten times Trump's net worth on campaign ads against him and still come away worth tens of billions more than Trump. 

IMHO his money would be useful in Senate races around the country. Help the folks squaring off against McConnell and Graham. 

[kevwun 15943]

20 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

It'll be interesting to see how much he ends up donating to Dems moving forward this cycle. I know he's a data driven business man, but when you have $60B+ that you can't take with you to your grave and the current leader is making fun of you all the time on twitter it might just make you donate some serious cash.

I heard on CNN last night that Bloomberg's core campaign staff is paid for through November.  He can shift them over to Biden now and it will be a big help.

Edited March 4, 2020 by kevwun

[Guest Lobo]

He'll cut a deal on his way out.  In exchange for me quelling my most adamant supporters from shooting up a Biden Inauguration rally in every major U.S. city...you don't prosecute me in any jurisdiction, ever.  Nor my children.  And believe me, there'll be plenty of credible threats for months afterwards.  

[NWBuck 8590]

10 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

He's already said he's going to support whomever is the Democratic nominee. He can spend ten times Trump's net worth on campaign ads against him and still come away worth tens of billions more than Trump. 

IMHO his money would be useful in Senate races around the country. Help the folks squaring off against McConnell and Graham. 

Edit... Worth posting twice. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by NWBuck

[bad_teammate 13299]

9 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

The trumpers in this thread losing their mind over Biden is gruntling.  They know Cheeto is fucked and Bernie was their one hope. 

They don't know anything. They are stupid people who believe whatever punditry is put into their heads.

[GRHorn 105]

10 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

The trumpers in this thread losing their mind over Biden is gruntling.  They know Cheeto is fucked and Bernie was their one hope.  
 

Can’t wait for the criminal investigations after inauguration when trump is a private citizen and has no senate to hide behind.

Im on the record here saying Bernie was bigger threat. Last night was win for Trump. 

[immortal13 4059]

59 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

You know, I've said this before, but I'm going to say it again.  

We're all having a good conversation about who the nominee is likely to be, or who it should be, or how the election might go, and that's as it should be in an election year.

But the problem is that all of our theorizing and speculating rests on the false premise that there's going to be a fair election in November.

But there isn't.  Trump will first try to con his way to the White House.  And if that doesn't work, he'll just steal the election.  And he'll have a lot of help.

I can't shake the feeling that this entire primary process is only determining which candidate will get the Al Gore fuckjob this time around.

Lulz....he's going to just steal it, huh? Can you be more specific on how he's going to do that?

[mdmost 43296]

6 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Im on the record here saying Bernie was bigger threat. Last night was win for Trump. 

And you would be wrong. Biden isn't the socialist. Trump's only play is Burisma and dumb shit that shows how truly corrupt Trump himself is because the exact things he's accusing Biden of are exactly what his children and son-in-law are benefitting from. Biden can point to how his and Obama's administration wasn't a flaming pile of shit like the current one. This is wishful thinking on your part. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by mdmost

[GRHorn 105]

25 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I love Trumpers ignorantly prognosticating the Dem electorate... you are nuts if you think Biden cant carry working class and union voters. And no one gives a shit about gaffes anymore. 

Wasn’t prognosticating Dem electorate. Looking at November. Trump won by cutting into working class. 

[Brisketexan 105569]

12 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Bloomberg just dropped out

Good.  Now spend that cash on crushing Trump in swing states.  And while you're at it, finance some Voting Rights litigation against GOP officials in several states, including Texas.  $1 million can pay for a pretty damned good litigation and expert witness team -- pocket change for Mike.

5 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I love Trumpers ignorantly prognosticating the Dem electorate... you are nuts if you think Biden cant carry working class and union voters. And no one gives a shit about gaffes anymore. 

Trump supporters....trying to make a campaign issue about speaking problems and creepiness?  Fuck, that's like Aggies making fun of someone for wearing a uniform and grabbing his nuts.

Seriously, Trump supporters....criticizing someone based on mental capacity and how they deal with women?

[Brisketexan 105569]

3 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Lulz....he's going to just steal it, huh? Can you be more specific on how he's going to do that?

Huh.  Maybe by having his criminal syndicate (formerly the political party known as the GOP) shut down polling places in areas with Dem-voting demographics.  You know, like happened just last night.  For starters.

And if you think he's not welcoming foreign hacking of election equipment, I have a bridge to sell you.  The Party of Trump has ZERO interest in a functioning democracy, where people get to vote and their vote counts.  That's what you stand for. 

[David Dennison 19117]

3 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Wasn’t prognosticating Dem electorate. Looking at November. Trump won by cutting into working class. 

White working class. That's an important distinction. And it might be offset if the non-white working class shows up in greater numbers than 2016.

Edited March 4, 2020 by David Dennison

[kevwun 15943]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

Huh.  Maybe by having his criminal syndicate (formerly the political party known as the GOP) shut down polling places in areas with Dem-voting demographics.  You know, like happened just last night.  For starters.

And if you think he's not welcoming foreign hacking of election equipment, I have a bridge to sell you.  The Party of Trump has ZERO interest in a functioning democracy, where people get to vote and their vote counts.  That's what you stand for. 

 

And harping about Hunter Biden while Trump's entire family makes a living off of grifting and bribery through his Presidency.  Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Edited March 4, 2020 by kevwun

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

This is why I think we are headed in the right direction. Joe is going to get more black votes than Hillary, and those are in key states. Obama needs to step in and encourage it.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/how-can-democrats-get-the-black-turnout-they-need-in-2020.html

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Conversely, a return to higher black turnout could be a key element in toppling Trump next year. In a major study from the Center for American Progress, Ruy Teixeira and John Halpin project that natural demographic trends in the last four years plus a return to 2012 levels of African-American voting would flip four states — Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin — and give Democrats a 294-244 majority in the Electoral College. And even if black voting turnout doesn’t quite hit those levels, in many states even marginal changes in turnout and Democratic vote-share could make the difference in a close race.

 

Will black turnout rebound to 2012 automatically after nearly three years of the most openly racist president since Woodrow Wilson? That’s unclear. In the 2018 midterms African-American turnout rose 10.8 percent as compared to the last midterm in 2014, as compared to an 11.7 boost in white turnout. And there’s also some evidence (though it’s at best mixed) that Trump is marginally more popular with black voters now than he was in 2016, though he remains overwhelmingly unpopular.

The most obvious factor to which to attribute the 2012-2016 falloff in African-American turnout is the absence at the top of the ticket of the first African-American president. 2016 black turnout, in fact, returned to its pre-Obama, 2004 levels. What’s hard to calculate is whether the 2008-2012 turnout boom was a unique event attributable to Obama’s pioneering status (much like the sky-high margins John F. Kennedy won among Catholics in 1960 or Jimmy Carter’s big wins in the Deep South in 1976), or could be replicated by another African-American at the top of the ticket in 2020 or beyond.

 

[bad_teammate 13299]

6 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Lulz....he's going to just steal it, huh? Can you be more specific on how he's going to do that?

- Kicking voters off of rolls.
- Finding minute excuses to deny new registrations.
- Closing registration offices nationwide in Democrat-heavy areas.
- Closing polling stations nationwide in Democrat-heavy areas.

This isn't some kind of potential, this is literally what is happening and has been happening already.

[immortal13 4059]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

Huh.  Maybe by having his criminal syndicate (formerly the political party known as the GOP) shut down polling places in areas with Dem-voting demographics.  You know, like happened just last night.  For starters.

And if you think he's not welcoming foreign hacking of election equipment, I have a bridge to sell you.  The Party of Trump has ZERO interest in a functioning democracy, where people get to vote and their vote counts.  That's what you stand for. 

Fuck you. You don't know what I stand for just like you can't prove anything in your above post. You're just a disgruntled loser who is triggered because your only chance now is some old blathering fool with early onset alzheimer. 

[mdmost 43296]

I'm assuming Obama is waiting until there's more of a definite path for Biden before he steps in. Though Bernie pulling the Obama card in his ads today might expedite Obama stepping in. 

[Voldemort86 2259]

30 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I love Trumpers ignorantly prognosticating the Dem electorate... you are nuts if you think Biden cant carry working class and union voters. And no one gives a shit about gaffes anymore. 

NOBODY cares about gaffes and mistakes anymore. That will be Trumps lasting contribution to politics. 

 

trump embarrasses himself on twitter on a daily basis and conservatives eat that crap up. They love it. They can’t get enough of trumps ignorantly stupid and childish rants. 
 

 

[kevwun 15943]

Republicans don't believe in principles, they believe in advantages.

Edited March 4, 2020 by kevwun

[EMAWesome 101]

9 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Im on the record here saying Bernie was bigger threat. Last night was win for Trump. 

Neither one of them as of now are a threat to Trump (Biden may change depending on his VP pick.)  Right now Google is a bigger threat to defeating Trump in an election than either of them.

[Huckleberry 33527]

2 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Fuck you. You don't know what I stand for just like you can't prove anything in your above post. You're just a disgruntled loser who is triggered because your only chance now is some old blathering fool with early onset alzheimer. 

Are you seriously implying that nobody can prove that polling places in historically heavy Democratic areas have been closed? Like actually seriously? Or are you just playing a bit?

[immortal13 4059]

3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Are you seriously implying that nobody can prove that polling places in historically heavy Democratic areas have been closed? Like actually seriously? Or are you just playing a bit?

That began well before this administration and cannot be tied to Trump. It's also a bullshit argument since you can mail in your vote if you want to. You dems just like to blame the refs when you lose. 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

Just now, immortal13 said:

That began well before this administration and cannot be tied to Trump. It's also a bullshit argument since you can mail in your vote if you want to. You dems just like to blame the refs when you lose. 

the whole scam is "make things mathematically certain to occur without bright lines."  it is the same as the census issue:  it is mathematically certain that response rates will fall with questions regarding citizenship among a particular demographic.  so let's ask about citizenship.  the NC voter suppression case was the same.  a certain population tended to favor later voting hours.  so eliminate later voting hours.  A certain population favored particular forms of ID.  so disallow those forms of ID.  I believe the judge used the phrase "razor precision" when describing how they came up with the dividing lines that happened to exactly correlate with racial behavior.  there is nothing in there that makes it impossible to vote.  it is just mathematically certain to cause it over a large enough population.  the thin veneer of plausible deniability is embarrassing to fall for if you are a college grad.

['stache 21900]

15 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

White working class. That's an important distinction. And it might be offset if the non-white working class shows up in greater numbers than 2016.

White working class people who are not necessarily politically active and who had been fed 30 years of sexism against Hillary Clinton. That's not to say Hillary didn't also fuck herself in a lot of ways, but there were lots of white suburban working class democrats who would not vote for Hillary. They'll vote for Biden. I'm feeling tiny bits of hope that we may be able to rid ourselves of the menace. I still worry immensely about the stupidity of the average person which maga has revealed. 

[Longhorn94 2458]

9 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Except for the socialism that America really, really, really likes.

you mean the social services that America really, really, really likes.

[G650 14301]

3 hours ago, 'stache said:

I’m really surprised how he turned out the voting numbers and how well he did with black voters and in the suburbs.

I'm genuinely curious why this is surprising. It's Biden's wheelhouse.

[Pig Bellmont 8746]

48 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I wonder how long until Trump is locked up?

Depends on if/when NY or the Manhattan DA obtain Trump Org financials, in my opinion. Briefs submitted to SCOTUS already. I think that’s the most advanced investigation and there’s almost certainly tax and insurance fraud regarding conflicting self reports about that the value of his business/properties. 

[G650 14301]

1 hour ago, EMAWesome said:

If Biden is serious about putting Beto in charge of confiscating guns he will lose Virginia

Uh, no. We just put the democrats in charge of our whole state governing apparatus largely on the backs of gun control.

[Pig Bellmont 8746]

4 minutes ago, G650 said:

Uh, no. We just put the democrats in charge of our whole state governing apparatus largely on the backs of gun control.

This is accurate. 

[G650 14301]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Biden is an empathetic figure, and nobody likes to see their grandpa attacked. 

100%.

[Brisketexan 105569]

47 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

You're just a disgruntled loser who is triggered because your only chance now is some old blathering fool with early onset alzheimer. 

Wait, I'm a Trump voter?  Interesting.

You're a fucking gutless coward who knows that your party and your ideas can't win a fair fight.  Open the polling places in minority neighborhoods that REPUBLICAN officials shut down.  Your party can't handle it if minorities are given the same opportunities to vote (the same number of polling places, with the same number of machines) as white voters get.

What are you so afraid of?

[otisdog 365]

2 hours ago, GRHorn said:

 

Remember much of Trump phenomenon was anti-Hillary/Obama. Biden can be tagged with that. 

Well, at least the anti-Obama phenomenon wasn't race driven....

[henrygandorf 29199]

biden is not a threat to trump. 170 posts in the past 9 hours have assured me this is the case so it’s clear to me they’re not worried. 

[cactusflinthead 27615]

1 hour ago, NWBuck said:

IMHO his money would be useful in Senate races around the country. Help the folks squaring off against McConnell and Graham. 

How about we spread it out even further?House, State Lege, feed the locals. I'm going to be sending more dollars to The House and other down ticket than to the top. They're going to get some from me too,but if you can't get shit done at a local level, if you have no bench and nobody in the pipeline, that's not a sustainable plan. 

By all means spend that dinero. Bloombito, Steyer, Yang, and the King of Evil Democratic donors, head of the cabal, Soros. Just don't forget the feed the roots. Keep an eye out for the future. 

[henrygandorf 29199]

9 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

overall, it was set up very poorly - i’ll get into it tomorrow.

so here was my experience voting in person last night. 

for at least the last couple cycles, i've voted by mail, so i haven't had to worry about polling places.  after all the chatter and seeing the lines around the country, i was curious and a little nervous to go in person, but the wife wanted me to wait for her.  we went down around 7:15pm (the place closed at 8pm).  it was the auditorium in a neighborhood school in weho.

the line was fucking long.  probably a few hundred people.  which didn't much bother me.  the part that bothered me was how slow it was moving.  any organized line that long should/would be moving faster assuming there were more than 2-3 voting booths inside (which there were).  in any case, we expected it to take 45 min to an hour.

about 8:45, the volunteers were going around letting everyone know about the "poll pass" you could fill out on your phone, so that you could get a qr code generated, which would speed things up once you got inside.  our part of the line was pleased about this (there were also about 100 people behind us, and they never really "cut" the line).  we all did our poll pass, which takes about 5 minutes if you have a general sense of who you're voting for (i think there were 19 total including 3 yes/no props and 3-4 unopposed races).

finally, around 9:20pm, we get to the front of the line, which doesn't take you to a booth, but instead to a small table with 3 volunteers.  1 of which was either on a break, or just decided to hang out and yap, so there were essentially 2 functioning "check-in" stations, which seemed a little counter-intuitive, considering there were 20 voting booths. 

i walk up to a volunteer with my id in my hand.  she didn't ask for it, just my name.  last, then first, then rotated her ipad and said "is this you?"  it was my full name, address, and voting preference.  i said yes, then she printed out my ballot, told me how the booths worked, when to show my poll pass qr code, then what to do with the ballot.

i get to the booth, tried to scan my qr code, and the machine said "the poll pass you're scanning doesn't match your voter registration".  ok.  i did it manually and went through the 19 questions again.  there were a couple of volunteers helping answer questions, and dealing with 5-6 booths that were having issues (paper jams mostly). 

i saw several people walking around with their paper ballots not sure where to put them.  and at no point did anyone verify my identity.  this was a democratic primary in what could only be called a democratic stranglehold of a neighborhood.  but when the shit gets real in november, if other polling places are run this way, this would be a fucking disaster.  i can't imagine what it would be like in michigan, pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, etc.

and i didn't even mention the 15-20 people we personally saw bail on the line in 2 hours.  this was no-doubt caused by the confusion and procedure inside, which obviously was causing the super-long wait time.  i know there were long lines in other places.  were they all kinda like this, or was this some random exception?  i would say we need more volunteers (we do) but this table was only set up to have 3 check-ins, so it's not like they would've been quicker with 2-3x the staff.

ahh, democracy. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 hours ago, EMAWesome said:

Compared to Hillary Clinton, Mike Bloomberg, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren?  Trump looks like Robin Williams compared to those four.  Biden from ten or twenty years ago would have been in his league but now Joe doesn't even know where his league is.

I see the trolls have all gotten the post “Joe is senile” memo. Expect to see this posted ad nauseam by Our resident trolls like this one for the next several months.
 

Never mind that trump can’t get through a hate rally speech without his brain completely short circuiting and is probably wearing depends. 
 

As for Bernie and the bros, while the primary process was rigged for Hillary in 2016, if Bernie loses this year it will have been fair and square. Despite what our resident trolls will try to push as the narrative. 

[bad_teammate 13299]

We should do away with voter registration and ID checking and make people dip their left thumb in indelible ink in exchange for a ballot. If your thumb is clean, you get a paper ballot that you fill out and put into a big box guarded by one armed Democrat and one armed Republican staring at each other DMZ style.

Each polling location turns on a recorded livestream when the box is opened for scanning.

In order to make sure no shenanigans are happening, each box is opened and sorted by hot ladies in bikinis.

I am ... 30% joking.

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, immortal13 said:

Fuck you. You don't know what I stand for just like you can't prove anything in your above post. You're just a disgruntled loser who is triggered because your only chance now is some old blathering fool with early onset alzheimer. 

Notice the last sentence? This troll got the Joe talking point memo from team depends. 

[bad_teammate 13299]

2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Despite what our resident trolls will try to push as the narrative. 

And when that doesn't happen? How reflective will you be about your own estimation?

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

And when that doesn't happen? How reflective will you be about your own estimation?

When what doesn’t happen? 
 

I wasn’t referring to you if that’s what you thought.
 

Team depends will push the Bernie was robbed narrative to the hilt though. Just this time it won’t be true. 

[henrygandorf 29199]

4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

In order to make sure no shenanigans are happening, each box is opened and sorted by hot naked ladies in bikinis.

it should be like in the movies when naked chicks in surgical masks are sorting the heroin.

[Post Oak 20327]

7 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

I see the trolls have all gotten the post “Joe is senile” memo. Expect to see this posted ad nauseam by Our resident trolls like this one for the next several months.
 

Never mind that trump can’t get through a hate rally speech without his brain completely short circuiting and is probably wearing depends. 
 

As for Bernie and the bros, while the primary process was rigged for Hillary in 2016, if Bernie loses this year it will have been fair and square. Despite what our resident trolls will try to push as the narrative. 

I honestly don't know if Emaw is Russian or not.

 

[Aqua Buddha 14653]

2 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

It'll be interesting to see how much he ends up donating to Dems moving forward this cycle. I know he's a data driven business man, but when you have $60B+ that you can't take with you to your grave and the current leader is making fun of you all the time on twitter it might just make you donate some serious cash.

His staff and office leases have contracts until Election Day.  It'll be a massive GOTV effort/PAC.  Whoever the nominee is needs that because the DNC is broke and incompetent.

[JimmyJames 12271]

Just now, Post Oak said:

I honestly don't know if Emaw is Russian or not.

 

He likes to post troll memes on this board at 3:00 am CST despite claiming he lives in Kansas. Make of that what you will. 

[elfenix 34385]

2 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

I honestly don't know if Emaw is Russian or not.

 

he might be.  i didn't think they had time for the politics sections on messageboards (which are relatively small platforms in the grand scheme of things).  but i caught a russian troll on another board last week.  he wasn't trying very hard to conceal himself, though. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by elfenix

[GRHorn 105]

59 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

biden is not a threat to trump. 170 posts in the past 9 hours have assured me this is the case so it’s clear to me they’re not worried. 

I think most are here because it’s a fascinating topic. What a turnaround. 

[gmr548 16635]

You're just a disgruntled loser who is triggered

Lol. Pot, meet kettle.

[EMAWesome 101]

17 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

He likes to post troll memes on this board at 3:00 am CST despite claiming he lives in Kansas. Make of that what you will. 

The last time anything was in somebody's head as much as I am in yours was the Armco barrier during qualifying for the 1973 U.S. Grand Prix at Watkins Glen.

[JimmyJames 12271]

Just now, EMAWesome said:

The last time anything was in somebody's head as much as I am in yours was the Armco barrier during qualifying for the 1973 U.S. Grand Prix at Watkins Glen.

That’s a very specific reference. I’ll have to google that later to figure it out.