Super Tuesday - 1,357 Delegates at Stake

[workswithseed 2201]

11 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Violates electioneering rules in Texas for me. Your mileage may vary. 

I don't get how it would be considered electioneering when it doesn't discriminate.

[Ghost of LL 15670]

I don't get how it would be considered electioneering when it doesn't discriminate.

It’s not. Especially when I set up a food truck more than 500’ from the polling place.


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[washparkhorn 9967]

10 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Nope.  Setting up a 501c3 right now.  This is a preview of November.  I don't care how they vote.  Just that they do so.  And have the ability to do so.

This is GOP vote suppression.  And I am not going to stand for it.  Fuck them.  Let's get these people some snacks.

Not a Texas lawyer - the item must be made available to anyone whether or not they vote. Cannot condition item on voting. Sounds like you understand the niceties. But the penalties are severe and prison sentences have been imposed. In Texas, dot your i's and cross your t's. 

I think you have a wonderful idea.  

[sorry didn't see your last post. my post is directed at sending those poor people pizza waiting in line]

Edited March 4, 2020 by washparkhorn

[ChiTownDoc 21326]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

 

Great post, Kid Rock. Let's see if you can wave that flag hard enough to break the sound barrier.

If y'all think the only reason I am against the closing of minority polling stations in states that used to be monitored by federal courts due to concerns about racist disenfranchisement is that Bernie is losing, you're stupid.

No better word for it, you're just dumb

Bernie will win or lose. He's behind right now and might not recover. I wish that were not the case.

Regardless of outcome, we should not have massive polling closures in minority heavy areas come before people waiting 3+ hours to vote. That is the sign of a broken and racist system.

And I know ChiTown is going to get the cops called on him if he plays Lee Greenwood any louder, so I hate to trigger his jingoism further, but we should have international election monitors come look at what we are doing and give objective, third party reviews.

And at risk of making his beating American heart explode in his chest, I must reveal that we already have that happening to a small extent and you can read the OSCE's report on the 2018 midterms here.

I think we should have free and fair elections. I think no citizen should have to wait 3+ hours to vote.

I am truly unhinged.

...

Why am I handling Bernie's hugely disappointing night better than people who don't even want him to win?

Bizarre evening.

 

Lol.  Yeah, you’re handling it really well.  😂

Thinking foreign governments overseeing our elections is idiotic makes me Kid Rock.  Well, of course it does!  I mean, to you, anyone to the right of Bernie is basically Donald Trump, so why wouldn’t you think that?
 

Take the loss, pussy.  

[henrygandorf 29223]

24 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Not a Texas lawyer - the item must be made available to anyone whether or not they vote. Cannot condition item on voting. Sounds like you understand the niceties. But the penalties are severe and prison sentences have been imposed. In Texas, dot your i's and cross your t's. 

I think you have a wonderful idea.  

[sorry didn't see your last post. my post is directed at sending those poor people pizza waiting in line]

we didn’t get out of our weho polling place until 9:30pm. several pizzas were ordered, and it helped.

overall, it was set up very poorly - i’ll get into it tomorrow. but the area with pizzas (and stickers) was available to the general public, you didn’t actually have to vote to get them. 

when it’s all set up, i too will chip in. fuck pizza, let’s just call the guys at pluckers. 

[DixonHur 11943]

2 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

Violates electioneering rules in Texas for me. Your mileage may vary. 

Since when did Trumpers start caring about election rules?

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

7 hours ago, GRHorn said:

I’m not here to re litigate Hillary V Trump. All I’ll say is Trump is world class when it comes to dunking on people. You’re free to disagree but the guy has comedic talent that works in his favor. Even real comedians talk about it. He will slam Biden like nobody’s business. I guess we’ll see. 

trump has comedic talent?  Well, I laugh at him a lot, guess that counts. 

[Mapache 1117]

7 hours ago, GRHorn said:

I’m not here to re litigate Hillary V Trump. All I’ll say is Trump is world class when it comes to dunking on people. You’re free to disagree but the guy has comedic talent that works in his favor. Even real comedians talk about it. He will slam Biden like nobody’s business. I guess we’ll see. 

Trump a comedic talent? Only in the minds of ignorant, simple minded, redneck Magamorons.

 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Mapache

[G650 14425]

8 hours ago, Pancho said:

What the fuck system is Virginia using and why isn't Texas using that system?  

Seemed like Virigina had every vote counted in damn near 45 minutes.   

We use paper ballot and scanner

[Goredho 17629]

Four thoughts from a dumbass:

1.  Can we just say it’s Biden v Trump now?  I’m kind of over Dems bodying each other out for the Presidential rebound.  Let’s Get Ready To Rummmmmmmmbbbblllllle!

2.  Biden is kind of meh, but Biden vs Trump is a bad matchup for Trump.  There’s a reason Trump was preemptively trying to tear down Biden in an underhanded way with the Ukraine bullshit. And a reason the Russians were trying to boost Sanders.  If the Dems and Biden are smart, they make this Obamaism vs Trumpism.  If they can effectively do that, the Dems win and Trumpkins will have to pound dirt about how out-of-touch 60% of America is.

3.  Assuming Trump and the Russians can’t engineer Bernie as Trump’s opposition gives me more hope for a mostly free and fair election.  I am sure we haven’t heard the last of Hunter and the Ukraine, but the impeachment showed anyone without an orange mushroom in their mouth that this it is nothing more than a partisan political hit job.  It and any other “bombshells” coming from the right and the Russians concerning Biden have little credibility with anyone who isn’t drinking from the Hannity/Rush firehouse.  Perhaps I was wrong with my criticism of the Dems impeachment efforts?

4.  Trump as a comedic genius:  What will be hysterical is when Trump pantomimes Biden by slurring his speech and misspeaking stupidly and no one can tell it’s a joke, pointed at Biden or at all different from the rest of Trump’s speech.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Goredho

[Voldemort86 2259]

13 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Four thoughts from a dumbass:

1.  Can we just say it’s Biden v Trump now?  I’m kind of over Dems bodying each other out for the Presidential rebound.  Let’s Get Ready To Rummmmmmmmbbbblllllle!

2.  Biden is kind of meh, but Biden vs Trump is a bad matchup for Trump.  There’s a reason Trump was preemptively trying to tear down Biden in an underhanded way with the Ukraine bullshit. And a reason the Russians were trying to boost Sanders.  If the Dems and Biden are smart, they make this Obamaism vs Trumpism.  If they can effectively do that, the Dems win and Trumpkins will have to pound dirt about how out-of-touch 60% of America is.

3.  That Trump and the Russians couldn’t engineer Bernie as Trump’s opposition gives me more hope for a mostly free and fair election.  I am sure we haven’t heard the last of Hunter and the Ukraine, but the impeachment showed anyone without an orange mushroom in their mouth that this it is nothing more than a partisan political hit job.  It and any other “bombshells” coming from the right and the Russians concerning Biden have little credibility with anyone who isn’t drinking from the Hannity/Rush firehouse.  Perhaps I was wrong about my criticism of the Dems impeachment efforts?

4.  Trump as a comedic genius:  What will be hysterical is when Trump pantomimes Biden by slurring his speech and misspeaking stupidly and no one can tell it’s a joke, pointed at Biden or at all different from the rest of Trump’s speech.

I agree with point 2 completely.

 

im no political analyst but, does anyone see Biden actually losing any states that Clinton won?  Virginia just had 2008 level turnout and that state was one that trumpers were hoping to flip. Nevada and New Mexico?  Yeah right. I can’t see minorities showing up to vote em masse for someone who calls their relatives and friends a bunch of criminals.

Biden should beat trump in Pennsylvania. It’s a homefield advantage for him.   The main reason trump won Wisconsin and Michigan is because blacks didn’t show up to vote for Hilary in both Detroit ( MI) and Milwaukee? I think is the city. Biden will turn out those black people. He proved that last night.

 

i don’t like some of Biden’s policies. I wish the next democrat president would be more friendly to weed reform, but the main objective and the main reason people voted last night was electability. They want someone who can beat trump.  They are sick of having some fucking orange moron for president who acts like a fucking child while he suggests we nuke hurricanes in the sky and give people flu shots while telling them they’re now safe from coronavirus.

at least with Biden, you know the house is probably safe, we can still make a run at the senate, and the Texas Democrats can still compete for the house on the state level. Republicans and the GOP were hoping to face Bernie, they wanted to use him to get back the suburbs, they wanted chaos, they want things to be shaken up and they wanted to nationalize ALL of the races while hoping Bernie would bring down ballot carnage to the democrats so that Trump and the GOP could go back to passing policies that only 25-30% of the country agrees with.
 

A trump presidency is 10x more unbearable when that fucking idiot has full control of government. Remember, he actually has the audacity to blame the democrats for things not getting done while he has total control. Fuck that orange piece of shit. I hope he gets the fucking corona virus.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Voldemort86

[BrickHorn 18426]

Biden is a stop-gap.  I’m fine with that.  The key is not to squander his term the way the party did under Obama.

[USMCHorn 1369]

I agree with everything you said. But also to add, Joe and the Dems are going to completely fuck Putin as soon as he gets in the White House. Revenge against Russia is my only objective as a voter and a veteran.

['stache 22117]

18 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

i don’t like some of Biden’s policies. I wish the next democrat president would be more friendly to weed reform, but the main objective and the main reason people voted last night was electability. They want someone who can beat trump.  They are sick of having some fucking orange moron for president who acts like a fucking child while he suggests we nuke hurricanes in the sky and give people flu shots while telling them they’re now safe from coronavirus.

at least with Biden, you know the house is probably safe, we can still make a run at the senate, and the Texas Democrats can still compete for the house on the state level.

Yep. I’m much more progressive but I’ll respect the vote. I’m really surprised how he turned out the voting numbers and how well he did with black voters and in the suburbs. That could flip the states that need to be flipped. Fair or not Hillary was toxic and it seems Biden might be pulling some “moderate dems” back in. I’m still Team Brisket that the orange baboon will be installed as king by the hoards of red hat deplorables but the stats are promising that maybe, just maybe, decency might prevail.

[DixonHur 11943]

3 minutes ago, USMCHorn said:

I agree with everything you said. But also to add, Joe and the Dems are going to completely fuck Putin as soon as he gets in the White House. Revenge against Russia is my only objective as a voter and a veteran.

Sadly, this scenario only really works if the Dems take the Senate.

[USMCHorn 1369]

5 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Sadly, this scenario only really works if the Dems take the Senate.

They have a better chance of doing that with Biden on the ticket imo.

[Voldemort86 2259]

5 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Yep. I’m much more progressive but I’ll respect the vote. I’m really surprised how he turned out the voting numbers and how well he did with black voters and in the suburbs. That could flip the states that need to be flipped. Fair or not Hillary was toxic and it seems Biden might be pulling some “moderate dems” back in. I’m still Team Brisket that the orange baboon will be installed as king by the hoards of red hat deplorables but the stats are promising that maybe, just maybe, decency might prevail.

In fairness, I voted early for Bloomberg because I had no idea who the heck to vote for. I’m in my early 30’s and I personally think the country isn’t ready to vote for a socialist for president. If people showed up yesterday, Bernie had tons of enthusiasm, young people and disengaged voters actually showed up, and Bernie won tons of states. I would’ve voted for Bernie in the fall no problem, but what I keep going back to is the Democratic electorate mainly wants someone who can win. It’s about getting rid of trump above all else right now.

 

[GRHorn 105]

9 hours ago, Continental Op said:

I suppose you've missed the videos of Trump's brain short circuiting during speeches that show up in the Trump thread on a not infrequent basis.

 

[APMP 688]

And shit--I don't know what I have been thinking.  [mention=593]Brisketexan[/mention] and I have been thinking about turnout.  We should subsidize food trucks to sit outside of polling places and give out free food to people standing in line.  We'll pay.  Just vote.
Fuck--I might be able to set up a 501©(3) and get a tax deduction out of that.

In.

[DanTheHorn 5061]

MSNBC just said Biden won ACC, SEC and BIG XII country. Bernie wins the PAC 12. Must be the offseason.

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

Everyone knows the Pac 12 is trash 

[immortal13 4059]

5 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Lol.  Yeah, you’re handling it really well.  😂

Thinking foreign governments overseeing our elections is idiotic makes me Kid Rock.  Well, of course it does!  I mean, to you, anyone to the right of Bernie is basically Donald Trump, so why wouldn’t you think that?
 

Take the loss, pussy.  

Kid Rock is an American bad ass

[bad_teammate 13482]

Lol.  Yeah, you’re handling it really well.  
Thinking foreign governments overseeing our elections is idiotic makes me Kid Rock.  Well, of course it does!  I mean, to you, anyone to the right of Bernie is basically Donald Trump, so why wouldn’t you think that?
 
Take the loss, pussy.  

[Goredho 17629]

29 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Yep. I’m much more progressive but I’ll respect the vote. I’m really surprised how he turned out the voting numbers and how well he did with black voters and in the suburbs. That could flip the states that need to be flipped. Fair or not Hillary was toxic and it seems Biden might be pulling some “moderate dems” back in. I’m still Team Brisket that the orange baboon will be installed as king by the hoards of red hat deplorables but the stats are promising that maybe, just maybe, decency might prevail.

Bloomberg shot himself in the dick and the less popular centrists dropped out.  The people who had been supporting them coalesced behind Biden.

[immortal13 4059]

Are the bernie bros gonna burn shit down now?

[Bookman 4754]

7 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Are the bernie bros gonna burn shit down now?

Yes. Many of them will definitely vote for Trump. 

[Voldemort86 2259]

11 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Are the bernie bros gonna burn shit down now?

What I’m wondering is,  was this really Bernie’s plan?
 

did he expect Klobuchar, Buttigieg, etc. to all stay in and have Bernie literally winning states with 30% of the overall voteshare per state?

thank god we avoided that disastrous result.

Even if I was a Bernie bro, I wouldn’t want to win in that fashion. Trumpkin’s would be having a field day with those kind of results right now while they would be beckoning for moderate Dems to vote for trump to “ avoid a socialist” and trump would actually expand his outreach to black voters.

its painfully obvious that Trump and the GOP badly want to face Bernie and there’s a reason for that. Don’t give those miserable disgusting people what they want.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Voldemort86

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Is Biden really ahead by all that much? I was glancing at the Twitter trends, and the bots and angry people are up in arms, but the delegate count the last time I checked didn't look insurmountable so why are the Sanders supporters so upset? The #RiggedPrimary hashtag may be foreign propelled, but there were non bot accounts that were on a tear. While Twitter /= all voters, I guess I'm naive in thinking why do people throw in the towel when there are still more delegates remaining? If this is about power, wouldn't you still want to have as many as possible so you can bring that to the table?

[WhatTheBuck 28904]

Way to go, Texas!

[DixonHur 11943]

9 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Yes. Many of them will definitely vote for Trump. 

No, but many will stay home.

Not saying they should, but after 2016, I think many are starting to feel like the system is rigged.

And if you really think Trump wants to face Bernie, you're living in a dream world.  We just had a mega donor for the GOP, and healthcare lobbyist...who also happens to somehow also be a Super delegate for the Dems (seems like a conflict) pushing for a brokered convention if Bernie were leading the field.

 

[bernorange 8385]

3 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Is Biden really ahead by all that much? ...

According to the NYT results tracker, they are estimating delegate results as Biden 390 and Sanders 330.  I assume folks are making projections about the likely results of the remaining states when saying the contest is over.

Edited March 4, 2020 by bernorange

[Pig Bellmont 8870]

4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Is Biden really ahead by all that much? I was glancing at the Twitter trends, and the bots and angry people are up in arms, but the delegate count the last time I checked didn't look insurmountable so why are the Sanders supporters so upset? The #RiggedPrimary hashtag may be foreign propelled, but there were non bot accounts that were on a tear. While Twitter /= all voters, I guess I'm naive in thinking why do people throw in the towel when there are still more delegates remaining? If this is about power, wouldn't you still want to have as many as possible so you can bring that to the table?

It depends on CA. If Warren and/or Bloomberg reach 15% threshold, Sanders could be in trouble given the states that are left. It’s expected, for ex, that Biden cleans house in FL and GA. Recent polls in Mich favor Biden- that would be a huge blow to Sanders too. Becoming more and more likely Biden will lead in delegates and votes going to the convention. 

[Voldemort86 2259]

5 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Is Biden really ahead by all that much? I was glancing at the Twitter trends, and the bots and angry people are up in arms, but the delegate count the last time I checked didn't look insurmountable so why are the Sanders supporters so upset? The #RiggedPrimary hashtag may be foreign propelled, but there were non bot accounts that were on a tear. While Twitter /= all voters, I guess I'm naive in thinking why do people throw in the towel when there are still more delegates remaining? If this is about power, wouldn't you still want to have as many as possible so you can bring that to the table?

Bernie bro’s are triggered because he needed big delegate lead after today and he didn’t get it.

the map favors Biden now.  Biden has a lot of states in the Midwest where he will be favored, Biden has proven he can fight Bernie in the northeast, Biden will probably sweep the south. 
 

What does Bernie have?   I see Bernie getting Oregon, Washington, and a few insignificant red states like Idaho and Wyoming. 
 

 

[Pig Bellmont 8870]

Just now, Voldemort86 said:

Bernie bro’s are triggered because he needed big delegate lead after today and he didn’t get it.

the map favors Biden now.  Biden has a lot of states in the Midwest where he will be favored, Biden has proven he can fight Bernie in the northeast, Biden will probably sweep the south. 
 

What does Bernie have?   I see Bernie getting Oregon, Washington, and a few insignificant red states like Idaho and Wyoming. 
 

 

And blowouts matter. Barely winning for Sanders won’t cut it

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Hope everybody had a couple of glasses of water before bedtime last night. Except for the Deacon. I hope he chugged bleach.

[Bookman 4754]

13 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

No, but many will stay home.

Not saying they should, but after 2016, I think many are starting to feel like the system is rigged.

And if you really think Trump wants to face Bernie, you're living in a dream world.  We just had a mega donor for the GOP, and healthcare lobbyist...who also happens to somehow also be a Super delegate for the Dems (seems like a conflict) pushing for a brokered convention if Bernie were leading the field.

 

From Trump’s tweets it seems obvious that he wants to face Bernie.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

4 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

It depends on CA. If Warren and/or Bloomberg reach 15% threshold, Sanders could be in trouble given the states that are left. It’s expected, for ex, that Biden cleans house in FL and GA. Recent polls in Mich favor Biden- that would be a huge blow to Sanders too. Becoming more and more likely Biden will lead in delegates and votes going to the convention. 

Thanks for the explanation. Warren and Bloomberg are sitting at 14% right now from the info I saw.

The way the system works where folks vote strategically as opposed to the candidate who's platform they prefer is a shame. The same way that Trump has taken over the GOP and turned it into the Trump Party. It doesn't bode well. I get it; it is what it is, but it's a weird game. I was a medium info voter before and always voted for the candidate I supported in the primary without worrying about the rest of it. These last two election cycles have been eye-opening. Thanks to all who have informed and passionately supported their chosen candidates. Oh, and the cynics, too. There is a place for cynicism in America even if the host/hostess seats you in the dimly lit corner.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

15 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

No, but many will stay home.

Not saying they should, but after 2016, I think many are starting to feel like the system is rigged.

And if you really think Trump wants to face Bernie, you're living in a dream world.  We just had a mega donor for the GOP, and healthcare lobbyist...who also happens to somehow also be a Super delegate for the Dems (seems like a conflict) pushing for a brokered convention if Bernie were leading the field.

 

It's why I was rooting for Warren so hard. Good platform, female, and I was going to be amazed if Trump and Co. were going to be able to get the American people to buy a fake Ukrainian probe into any companies or conflicts she might have had. But they have planted the seed of doubt with Biden and I have no doubt that Pompeo is sitting on some real or fake info that is about to be released in the coming months. They would have had something for Sanders as well. which combined with the Commie/Socialist attacks would have resonated with certain voters. They have a deep well of money and people will be coming forward. It's going to get real ugly.

[Brew 3049]

11 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

No, but many will stay home.

Not saying they should, but after 2016, I think many are starting to feel like the system is rigged.

And if you really think Trump wants to face Bernie, you're living in a dream world.  We just had a mega donor for the GOP, and healthcare lobbyist...who also happens to somehow also be a Super delegate for the Dems (seems like a conflict) pushing for a brokered convention if Bernie were leading the field.

 

You’re crazy if you don’t think that Trump would prefer to face Bernie. He would much rather face off with an 80 year old socialist that he could galvanize his base against. Biden keeps the moderate vote and the minority vote in play which could damage more localized races for the R’s. From the results last night, most of the movement from other candidates is to Biden which should equate to solid numbers in November over Bernie’s base which is inconsistent at best. Biden coming out of this uncontested with a solid base is a worst case scenario for the Trump re-election. The D’s may still screw that up, but at this point it should be Biden if the goal is to beat Trump.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13710]

10 minutes ago, Bookman said:

From Trump’s tweets it seems obvious that he wants to face Bernie.

It’s either he wants Bernie or he wants the Bernie bro’s to be upset when Bernie loses. Win win for trump.

and it’s reasonable that Bernie supporters are upset with the results but this isnt 2016 when insider superdelegates went with Hillary against many of the voters. 2020 has voters rejecting Bernie. Most Dems don’t want a revolution they want to go back to 2015.

it’s not bernies time right now. His views will need to be carried on by others in future elections.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Nice Guy Eddie

[immortal13 4059]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

It’s either he wants Bernie or he wants the Bernie bro’s to be upset when Bernie loses. Win win for trump.

and it’s reasonable that Bernie supporters are upset with the results but this isnt 2016 when insider superdelegates went with Hillary against many of the voters. 2020 has voters rejecting Bernie. Most Dems don’t want a revolution they want to go back to 2015.

it’s not bernies time right now. His views will need to be carried on by others in future elections.

Dems want to go back to a shitty, broken economy?

[DanTheHorn 5061]

25 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

No, but many will stay home.

Not saying they should, but after 2016, I think many are starting to feel like the system is rigged.

 

Rigged by a guy with no money that won in states he did not visit. It is a rejection of Bernie and that side of the party.

[EMAWesome 101]

3 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

trump has comedic talent?  Well, I laugh at him a lot, guess that counts. 

Compared to Hillary Clinton, Mike Bloomberg, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren?  Trump looks like Robin Williams compared to those four.  Biden from ten or twenty years ago would have been in his league but now Joe doesn't even know where his league is.

[WBT 20886]

43 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

What I’m wondering is,  was this really Bernie’s plan?
did he expect Klobuchar, Buttigieg, etc. to all stay in and have Bernie literally winning states with 30% of the overall voteshare per state?

Worked for Trump.  He didn't hit 50% in any state primary until New York on April 19.  You have to give the establishment Dems credit for clearing the field and getting behind one candidate early enough to stop that from happening.

Edited March 4, 2020 by WBT

[TexArcher 38823]

37 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Is Biden really ahead by all that much? 

No.

Writing off Bernie right now is as silly as writing off Biden a week ago.

[Tom 2960]

3 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

Compared to Hillary Clinton, Mike Bloomberg, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren?  Trump looks like Robin Williams compared to those four.  Biden from ten or twenty years ago would have been in his league but now Joe doesn't even know where his league is.

 

Trump is a child tossing 3rd grade nicknames.  It's not surprising you'd compare it to Robin Williams given your history of posting 3rd grade level memes in the comic relief thread.

[GRHorn 105]

7 minutes ago, Brew said:

You’re crazy if you don’t think that Trump would prefer to face Bernie. He would much rather face off with an 80 year old socialist that he could galvanize his base against. Biden keeps the moderate vote and the minority vote in play which could damage more localized races for the R’s. From the results last night, most of the movement from other candidates is to Biden which should equate to solid numbers in November over Bernie’s base which is inconsistent at best. Biden coming out of this uncontested with a solid base is a worst case scenario for the Trump re-election. The D’s may still screw that up, but at this point it should be Biden if the goal is to beat Trump.

Wrong.
 

Bernie could’ve made a dent with working class people. In the Midwest. Biden probably ossifies black vote, but it was already so high that may not even matter. Also, disaffected Trump voters don’t really dislike Bernie, but Biden comes from the Obama/Hillary/DNC line.
 

Plus Biden will have some gaffes in high pressure situations unlike we’ve ever seen before when he has his “bad days”.
 

Has Biden released his full health records? How much Aricept is he taking?

[Voldemort86 2259]

3 minutes ago, WBT said:

Worked for Trump.  He didn't hit 50% in any state primary until New York on April 19.  You have to give the establishment Dems credit for clearing the field and getting behind one candidate early enough to stop that from happening.

It worked for Trump because republican voters don’t care about things like facts and they also don’t care about what the majority thinks.

For the GOP, as long as you show up, talk like the whole world is out to get you, bring up farfetched conspiracy theories, hate people who aren’t white, hate the poor, and want to help the rich.....you’re good!

[EMAWesome 101]

1 hour ago, immortal13 said:

Are the bernie bros gonna burn shit down now?

They are the one segment of the Democrats that are not voting to defeat Trump.  They are voting to elect Bernie.  If they don't get that they don't care who wins because they see minimal difference between Republicans and establishment Democrats (which in their mind is any Democrat to the right of them, which is pretty much every Democrat this side of AOC and Omar).  They are the electorate version of kamikaze pilots.

[Voldemort86 2259]

5 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Wrong.
 

Bernie could’ve made a dent with working class people. In the Midwest. Biden probably ossifies black vote, but it was already so high that may not even matter. Also, disaffected Trump voters don’t really dislike Bernie, but Biden comes from the Obama/Hillary/DNC line.
 

Plus Biden will have some gaffes in high pressure situations unlike we’ve ever seen before when he has his “bad days”.
 

Has Biden released his full health records? How much Aricept is he taking?

Trump and the GOP had an unprecedented amount of opposition research to unload on Clinton with all of the Wikileaks stuff. Remember Comey also re-opened his investigation into Clinton right before the election. Hilary never campaigned in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan because she thought they were in the bag. 
 

trump won Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania by a combined 70,000 votes give or take. 
 

I just don’t see Biden being as flawed of a candidate as Clinton and I also don’t see him making the same mistakes as Clinton either. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Voldemort86