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Just confirming...we think Ellie is immune NOT because her mom was infected before the cord was cut, but rather because the same knife mom used to kill the clicker was then used to cut the cord, right? If so, it supports the theory that cordyceps+cord blood (stem cells) or cordyceps exposure right after birth is the path to immunity...

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Oh god so most of the survivors were gluten free people? I bet the rest of the survivors never stopped hearing about that 

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23 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

Considering they knocked Joel out and separated him from Ellie without discussing any of those things, he has to be pretty damn skeptical of the operation.

I didn't see this addressed in the game or the show, so anyone feel free to correct me but the whole point was that Joel is supposed to deliver Ellie to the fireflies in exchange for supplies. Guns, a vehicle, etc. He gets her there and Marlene tells him "I owe you" and her payment is to have Joel escorted to the highway and dumped. Not once does she mention paying him, not once does he ask about the payment he was supposed to receive. I can understand Joel not caring at that point but shouldn't Marlene have said "Hey, don't worry. You're getting the supplies we talked about. our men will hook you up"? Instead, she just stiffs him. 

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Yeah - Joel and Tess’s original job was to get Ellie to the Statehouse in episode one to meet up with a group of Fireflies and hand her off. That group was to give them a vehicle and weapons and whatever and then Joel and Tess were going to Wyoming.

But when they got there, all the Fireflies were dead, Tess was infected and she blew up all the Firefly supplies.

Joel and Tess were never tasked with taking Ellie all the way to Salt Lake City.

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On 3/16/2023 at 12:06 PM, Sandman said:

I didn't see this addressed in the game or the show, so anyone feel free to correct me but the whole point was that Joel is supposed to deliver Ellie to the fireflies in exchange for supplies. Guns, a vehicle, etc. He gets her there and Marlene tells him "I owe you" and her payment is to have Joel escorted to the highway and dumped. Not once does she mention paying him, not once does he ask about the payment he was supposed to receive. I can understand Joel not caring at that point but shouldn't Marlene have said "Hey, don't worry. You're getting the supplies we talked about. our men will hook you up"? Instead, she just stiffs him. 

Maybe misremembering 

I thought Marlene gave a line as Joel was waking up that he was the last person she wanted to owe a favor to but did for bringing ellie. 

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it makes more sense now that I think about Marlene as fatally misunderstanding the changes that have happened to Joel on this trip, but a good strategy would be to not let the brutal killer wake up or know that the "surgery" was happening at all until after it had already occurred

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would never let that happen to my daughter - I don't care about the rest of the world that much anyways, everyone dies once. I can see getting into the Joel headspace having that part of him reawakened after 20 years. of course it'll fuck everything up with Ellie (have not played the games, or at least haven't gotten that far in the games yet).

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would never let that happen to my daughter - I don't care about the rest of the world that much anyways, everyone dies once. I can see getting into the Joel headspace having that part of him reawakened after 20 years. of course it'll fuck everything up with Ellie (have not played the games, or at least haven't gotten that far in the games yet).

With you. Fuck everyone, especially in an apocalypse.
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I think the biggest part of Joel's murderous reaction was due to them not letting him see her. Marlene can tell he's concerned for her, and if she doesn't expect Ellie to survive "the surgery" she certainly wouldn't want Joel to see that. That's the impression I got from that exchange, she was going to use Ellie as a labrat/donor for their BS experiment and she didn't want him in the way. She owed him for bringing her this far to help make the cure, but couldn't convince him to get on board with the plan (or didn't bother trying since she's the dictator of the Fireflies and this is her plan). 

I like how the show portrayed this situation and gave Joel plenty of red flags to justify his actions. At first I thought he was going insane, but there were a lot better ways for Marlene to handle it all. She didn't even give them a meal and try to befriend them before sending Ellie to the OR without her consent. Lots of different ways to play it, but I guess impatience got the best of her. 

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someone mentioned it earlier but it was dumb the way they went about it with ellie.  the damn apocalypse has been going on for over 20 years, it’s not like seconds count.  and you have the only known human that is immune to the fungus that has destroyed the world.  instead of keeping her safe, studying her, trying any and all options… no, toss her on the table the minute she arrives and kill her on a hunch that something might work.  it’s ridiculous. 

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I finished out the game today. There is some info revealed through voice recorders and a journal that makes the Fireflies, the medical staff, and Marlene look a little more legit and good intentioned than what we get in the show. They seem to be genuinely trying and hopeful for a vaccine.

Despite that, they didn’t communicate with Joel and Ellie at all, and their brute force approach resulted in a hostile situation that got everyone killed. If you plan to save humanity, it might help to have some bedside manner.

I killed the doctor and nurses because I spent time picking up ammo and didn’t want that to be in vain. They’re NPCs, who cares. Got Ellie back.

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2 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

There is some info revealed through voice recorders and a journal that makes the Fireflies, the medical staff, and Marlene look a little more legit and good intentioned than what we get in the show. They seem to be genuinely trying and hopeful for a vaccine.

how are they not genuinely trying and hopeful in the show?

foolish and desperate, maybe.  but genuinely hopeful. 

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On 1/30/2023 at 10:18 PM, CooterBrown said:

Tried to tell my wife, who doesn’t watch the show, about E3 and damn near couldn’t get through it. I can’t believe a TV episode affected me like that. Jesus Christ.

Holy shit this.

Late to the game, and I only started watching this series recently with my son. We watched Episode 3 last night and: (1) it was a bit uncomfortable watching two dudes making out and hopping into bed together with my sixth-grade son, as I don’t think I’ve even seen with him a heterosexual sex scene in a movie, and (2) still, I think it was good for him to see a pretty unconventional yet powerful love story like that, even if he isn’t quite mature enough to appreciate it.

My fiancé isn’t really into zombie/apocalyptic/dystopian movies or TV series. But I’m going to force her to watch Episode 3, and I’m sure she’ll be a crying ball of mush at the end.

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Had a family member text me yesterday that he started the show and liked it, but turned it off sometime during the Ron Swanson episode because he didn't want to watch "that". So that's great.

Yeah, I can imagine a conservative person really getting into that episode at first because of the prepper character, only to later choke on their potato chips.

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

Had a family member text me yesterday that he started the show and liked it, but turned it off sometime during the Ron Swanson episode because he didn't want to watch "that". So that's great.

Probably best they turn it off. Might discover "that" is more like "this" than they've been (mis)led to believe. Also true "that" can be very contagious if you don't watch out. I watched an episode of We Are Who We Are the other day and was compelled to put a dick in my mouth. Dang agenda tricked me again!

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i had about an hour left on my flight last weekend, so i scrolled through their free entertainment options and settled on a rewatch of episode 3.

so so so fucking good.  a couple things i noticed this time around that i liked - mostly centered around what they decided not to show in the flashbacks that illustrate the evolution of the relationship between bill (offerman) and joel.

bill tells frank "we're not going to have friends", which of course cuts to them having friends over for lunch.  at the end of that flashback, bill and joel are talking and joel says there will be raiders.  he also says "we have things you don't have here" and he includes medicine in that.  but bill's posture at that point is still "thanks but we're self-sufficient".

the next scene is raiders hitting, just like joel said, at night, in numbers, well-armed.  they shoot bill (as has been covered upthread, like an idiot, in the street).  when frank brings him in and lays him on the table, he repeatedly yells, "call joel, he'll take care of you".  it's clear at this point that the bill-joel relationship has evolved and certainly includes a lot of trust now, even though we don't see it.  when he thinks the end is near, he specifically says, "call joel".

fast forward to the next flashback on the porch, and the twist is that it's frank in the wheelchair, even though we just saw bill get shot.  eventually they're inside and bill is giving frank his pills (great little offerman moment, as he has little nicknames for the pills, big browney, and such).  obviously they wouldn't have known he would get sick, so it's pretty clear that they've worked with joel to get him the meds he needed.  again, shown but not explained.  love the lack of exposition.

then of course the note - "to whoever finds this, probably joel".  it allows space for the viewer to imagine the relationship that bill had with joel over the years, even though they only share one actual scene together.  it's been 20 years, so it trusts us to put the pieces together ourselves.  that's rare these days with the low attention span of a normal audience.  i appreciated that.

(some of these scenes might not have been right after one another, but you get the idea).

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22 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

So looking for a new series and think this is the one.  Or “The Bear.”  This isn’t just a rehash of “Walking Dead”, right?

It’s a show set in a zombie apocalypse but it’s barely about the zombies. So it’s way better than TWD

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27 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

So looking for a new series and think this is the one.  Or “The Bear.”  This isn’t just a rehash of “Walking Dead”, right?

For one, no zombies jumping out and attacking a main character from 2 feet off screen without them noticing

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26 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

So looking for a new series and think this is the one.  Or “The Bear.”  This isn’t just a rehash of “Walking Dead”, right?

The Bear is a quick watch since each show is only 30 minutes. Watch the first season then go to The Last of Us. Then hit up season 2 of The Bear which was just released. 

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It’s a show set in a zombie apocalypse but it’s barely about the zombies. So it’s way better than TWD

I loved first season of Walking Dead and enjoyed it more as it was fresher and the genre wasnt as played as it is today. But Last of Us is exceptional and not comparable to early Walking Dead which was very much a zombie series.

Later Walking Dead is a beating and mostly a money grab filled with fluff and plot devices.
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23 hours ago, APMP said:
On 6/28/2023 at 9:37 PM, Sbbruin said:
Watched the first two eps tonight.  Intriguing.

Yeah we gonna need a more detailed reaction after episode 3...

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Big Ron Swanson fan, so his appearance was great.  Got through that and ep 4.  Very enjoyable.

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On 4/15/2023 at 10:39 AM, Red Five said:

Had a family member text me yesterday that he started the show and liked it, but turned it off sometime during the Ron Swanson episode because he didn't want to watch "that". So that's great.

I went Offerman's one-man show last month.  He sings a song that basically says that if you can't handle him kissing the guy from White Lotus, you don't deserve him as Ron Swanson.

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