3/15 Debate Thread - Joe Biden's CNN Coronation?

[bad_teammate 13496]

You know how you guys respect clear-eyed conservatives who tell the truth about Trump and the media apparatuses that cover for him?

Be at least as honest as them.

[Ted Lange 16407]

I like and respect Mehdi.  I didn’t watch the debates tho.  What were the lies?

[bad_teammate 13496]

Before I turned it off he'd lied a out his positions on Social Security and bankruptcy.

He lies reflexively. He just imagines what he wants to think he was at any given moment in history and just says that.

He's always been this way.

It's a fantastic political trait to have if you have an allied media apparatus.

[JimmyJames 12271]

16 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

34 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Hugo hasn’t melted down at all and has faded into the background for the most part., BT’s reaction to Bernie losing has been off the chart irrational. I like Bernie and don’t necessarily like Biden, but I want trump gone. That’s all I care about. He needs to be gone. 

Do you imagine this #unity strategy helps the cause?

No. But it don’t make a shit.

[bad_teammate 13496]

So you're just carrying Biden's water for fun? lol

[Gatorubet 30711]

3 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

There is nothing anyone can do to beat someone who lies and has a media establishment who will overlook or outright cover up those lies.

 

So the other team holds on every play and your team never does?  Cool.

[TexEx15 17937]

The force is strong with Bernie.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Joe Biden is going to be the nominee. Everyone is going to have to suck it up and carry his water, including Bernie.  

This Primary process was a joke for the most part but there were a plenty of positive and negative consequences.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

8 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

I actually thought Hugo would meltdown worse than BT. I was wrong 

I haven’t melted because I feel like I understand why Biden is winning and even though I disagree with the rationale, I’m okay with it.  

Bernie had more than a fair opportunity to win and voters were simply not ready to go all in for a revolution led by a 78 year old democratic socialist.  However, they still really like Bernie’s ideas which is a good thing, others can build on that in future campaigns.

IMO Bernie was always the wrong vehicle for advancing his own agenda and the voters are saying this yet AGAIN by going with a less radical alternative in Biden. 

This election is all about stopping the bleeding and minimizing risk.  I don’t think Biden is a safe play but neither is anyone else.  

[DixonHur 11959]

Fuck Biden.  He's a creepy, slimy, lying, idiot sack of shit...but hey, he's not Trump, so let's all get on board the Denture Express...toot toot..

 

[Pig Bellmont 8884]

So maybe spending a week drumming up unsubstantiated bullshit about mental decline wasn’t the best thing for Bernie bros. Time for your candidate to drop out

[Ghost of LL 15699]

Indeed.  If Biden had said "ebola" three times during the debate when he meant "coronavirus," we'd never hear the end of it from b_t and washfraud.

[bad_teammate 13496]

8 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

So the other team holds on every play and your team never does?  Cool.

Bernie doesn't lie like Biden does, no. That's just reality. Don't turn into MAGA.

29 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

If Biden had said "ebola" three times during the debate when he meant "coronavirus," we'd never hear the end of it from b_t and washfraud.

Are you trying to argue here that Biden and Bernie are of equal mental capacity right now? Or is this just more anti-Bernie trolling with stuff you don't actually believe?

[bad_teammate 13496]

Shag from March 2019 to February 2020: "lol Biden's brain is soup what an idiot"

Shag now: "He's actually very powerful mentally and if you don't believe it you love Donald Trump."

[Biff Tannen 46154]

This thread going exactly as anticipated.  B_T, do you ever get outside?

[BradInATX 9208]

"Victim complex b_t" is an interesting turn of events.

Edited March 16, 2020 by BradInATX

[Ghost of LL 15699]

I'd put Biden's mental acuity up against Bernie's any day.  Biden gets tongue-tied.  Guess what--Biden has gotten tongue-tied for the past forty years.  It was the source of much comment 12 years ago when he was chosen to be Obama's running mate.  It's why everyone thought first Palin and then Ryan would have an easy time with him in a debate.

I've only watched Sanders for the past five years.  So I can't comment on his long-term trajectory.  But I can tell you that all Bernie SANDERS DOES IS YELL AT PEOPLE!  It's hardly the mark of mental sharpness.  And don't tell me he's making cogent points in that very loud voice.  He's generally just repeating the same points he's made an innumerable number of times beforehand.

But really--who cares?  Biden is quite obviously fine.  And he'll do very well in a debate against Trump, who really does have brainworms.

And that's all we care about right now, because Biden is the nominee.

[bad_teammate 13496]

If the play is to just turn on a dime from acknowledging Joe's dishonesty and deficits to pretending those things don't exist there's not much point in hashing it out. Party tribalism has engaged and that bypasses higher order thinking straight to lizard brain reaction.

Joe Biden's fundamental dishonesty, vanity, thin skin, and inability to handle stress or challenge didn't change in early March.

It would be better to deal with these things honestly, but obviously you guys are convincing yourselves that pretending the emperor is wearing clothes is necessary right now.

Edited March 16, 2020 by bad_teammate

[BradInATX 9208]

9 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

dishonesty, vanity, thin skin, and inability to handle stress or challenge

huh.

 

[henrygandorf 29225]

31 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Shag now: "He's actually very powerful mentally and if you don't believe it you love Donald Trump."

nobody is saying this. 

[FWD 297]

Biden is not as sharp as he used to be but his gaffes have been a known quantity for 30+ years. They are baked in. He came across as sharper than Bernie last night and is infinitely sharper than Trump. 

[bad_teammate 13496]

Biden says something that is fully untrue. Politifact rates it Mostly True.

Another untrue accusation. Politifact names it Mostly True.

It's probably useful to think about how much your consent is being manufactured by dishonest people right now.

[Biff Tannen 46154]

Or perhaps YOU are the one that is incorrect.  Nah, that couldn't be...

[bad_teammate 13496]

You can read the articles yourself. Politifact acknowledges that both claims are factually false but goes ahead and calls them true based on some kind of interpretative intention standard.

[6th Street 6687]

LOL the auto bailout was $80B. That limp wristed $14B from Bernie wouldn't have done shit.

[bad_teammate 13496]

Was Bernie ever against bailing out the auto industry?