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Absolutely.  This dude deserves a medal and as much honor as any soldier gets.  He’s got a huge breadth of knowledge and his policy recommendations are rooted in science and empiricism.  He has gained the trust of the people and the WH with a no bullshit approach to presenting information that neither really want to receive.  I wouldn’t have bet on someone being able to do that effectively.

He’s is the Legosov of this crisis and I hope to hell he stays upright or is at least grooming a replacement should he get seriously ill himself.

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:26 PM, BabaYaga said:

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I mean, in mid-march once everything started shutting down and Italy was seeing 700+ deaths a day, I feel like everyone knew the virus was no longer contained. Seems like an email that would deserve this response:

 

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This is a fun one.  Scientist Kristian Anderson told Fauci SARS-CoV-2 has “unusual features” that “potentially look engineered”. Not long after this email, the scientists authored a piece insisting the virus was natural and Fauci said the same publicly.  You have to wonder....

 

SARS-CoV-2 appears “inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory”.

 

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The GOF emails are fun.....or the ones where he stated that asymptomatic cases do not spread the virus.  Then told the public something completely different.  Popcorn anyone....

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:34 PM, BabaYaga said:

The GOF emails are fun.....or the ones where he stated that asymptomatic cases do not spread the virus.  Then told the public something completely different.  Popcorn anyone....

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my personal favorite is the "mask" email.

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:40 PM, dcar00 said:

my personal favorite is the "mask" email.

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Fauci goes offline when they start following the lab created angle, and demands actions from subordinates that he won't put in an email.

He was never asked to justify what changed his thinking on droplet vs. aerosol spread when all of the droplet related interventions/mandates were being theatrically practiced for everyone to see, and then when subsequent studies confirmed the aerosol transmission, he remained silent.

He was managing this politically from the get-go, he coordinated with friendly press and social media to keep people away from the lab leak theory and willfully distracted an entire nation with drastically inflated risks while pushing astonishingly costly interventions that had at best, marginal benefit to controlling the pandemic. 
 

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Fauci wrote in 2012 that gain-of-function research could "spark a pandemic" but he felt the benefits of it outweighed the risks.  Obama shut him down in 2014.  Under the nose of Trump, he started them back up in Wuhan with US grant money in 2017.  He covered-up a possible lab origin not just from the public but from the most senior White House national security officials as he knew this would lead back in time to his ties to this lab and it's GOF research being done there.  

 

 

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:46 PM, BabaYaga said:

 He covered-up a possible lab origin not just from the public but from the most senior White House national security officials as he knew this would lead back in time to his ties to this lab and it's GOF research being done there.  

 

 

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This has to be what's going on.

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:48 PM, Rip76 said:

This has to be what's going on.

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Yep.....It should be no surprise that these are coming out now. Once the MSM and the public started having to admit that this virus likely was engineered in a Wuhan lab then you knew they were going to try to find a fall-guy. Fauci is about to get gutted at the public altar....
 

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I seem to remember these little quips with the Coronabros and the viability and efficacy of targeted protection plans for those most at risk.....

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Anthony Fauci received the best advice he could have possibly been given on March 14, 2020 (presumably from UPenn researcher Michael Betts??), replied "thank you for your note," and proceeded to devastatingly ignore every single bit of it.

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:56 PM, BabaYaga said:

I seem to remember these little quips with the Coronabros and the viability and efficacy of targeted protection plans for those most at risk.....

 

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Except it was definitely dangerous to a lot of other populations too.  He should be nailed for any cover up...not for not nailing the science early when so many were making educated guesses.  

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:57 PM, ChiTownDoc said:

Except it was definitely dangerous to a lot of other populations too.  He should be nailed for any cover up...not for not nailing the science early when so many were making educated guesses.  

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I get that.  But we found out sooner rather than later that there were materially vulnerable people in the population that was never discussed in any protection plans.  It was a top down, one size fits all approach long after we knew much more about the virus' patterns and MO.

from the email:

"In sum, we need to isolate the vulnerable (elderly and immunosuppressed) and realize the mortality rate among those outside of that group is likely lower than the flu."

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  On 6/2/2021 at 9:50 PM, BabaYaga said:

Yep.....It should be no surprise that these are coming out now. Once the MSM and the public started having to admit that this virus likely was engineered in a Wuhan lab then you knew they were going to try to find a fall-guy. Fauci is about to get gutted at the public altar....
 

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do you really think this?  Fauci has an entire apparatus to protect him against one guy.  not gonna happen.  the emails are stunning but it won't matter in the end.

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  On 6/2/2021 at 10:00 PM, BabaYaga said:

I get that.  But we found out sooner rather than later that there were materially vulnerable people in the population that was never discussed in any protection plans.  It was a top down, one size fits all approach long after we knew much more about the virus' patterns and MO.

from the email:

"In sum, we need to isolate the vulnerable (elderly and immunosuppressed) and realize the mortality rate among those outside of that group is likely lower than the flu."

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Yep.  But people will want to nail his ass on everything.  Totally politicized at this point.  The President fucked up WAY more than Fauci did.  That’s a fact.  

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  On 6/2/2021 at 10:05 PM, dcar00 said:

do you really think this?  Fauci has an entire apparatus to protect him against one guy.  not gonna happen.  the emails are stunning but it won't matter in the end.

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Hard to say.  It will come out that this was a lad generated virus, spawned from GOF research funded by Faucci.  Someone's gonna have to burn....

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  On 6/2/2021 at 10:02 PM, BabaYaga said:

There has to be a fall guy here.  As stated above, Faucci is about to be BBQ'd..

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I hate to break it to you, but nobody outside the Breitbart news ecosystem has any idea what is going on with Fauci right now.  This is a story on par with migrant caravans and bamboo election ballots.

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  On 6/2/2021 at 10:00 PM, BabaYaga said:

I get that.  But we found out sooner rather than later that there were materially vulnerable people in the population that was never discussed in any protection plans.  It was a top down, one size fits all approach long after we knew much more about the virus' patterns and MO.

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You're literally just making things up. From pretty early on we understood the virus hit the elderly harder. Most states and recommendations included extra precautions for the elderly. It was never one size fits all. You just think the baseline restrictions applicable to everyone were too strenuous. But that's different than saying there was no differentiation or appreciation of that certain populations were more vulnerable to serious illness. 

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  On 6/2/2021 at 10:06 PM, ChiTownDoc said:

Yep.  But people will want to nail his ass on everything.  Totally politicized at this point.  The President fucked up WAY more than Fauci did.  That’s a fact.  

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keep repeating it. 

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  On 6/2/2021 at 10:02 PM, BabaYaga said:
There has to be a fall guy here.  As stated above, Faucci is about to be BBQ'd..

A “fall guy” for what? He did everything he could with the information he had in the most toxic political environment and for the stupidest science-denying public.
Nothing he could possibly say would not be “fake news” in that climate.
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  On 6/2/2021 at 10:06 PM, ChiTownDoc said:

Yep.  But people will want to nail his ass on everything.  Totally politicized at this point.  The President fucked up WAY more than Fauci did.  That’s a fact.  

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If it comes to light that Faucci knew early that this was a genetically altered variant, then you can say Trump went ass over teakettle all the way down the stairs, still doesn't counter that this was a genetically modified strain created under funding FROM Faucci under the nose of the administration after the previous shut him down for the very dangers discussed on these emails.  As always, the cover up outweighs the crime....

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