College Football in 2020 in danger?

[Spankytoes 1743]

5 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Covid scares Mack to death

dp 

Edited July 9, 2020 by Spankytoes

[Herpa Derpa 6132]

11 hours ago, LongestHorn said:

Is XII waiting for another P5 to postpone/cancel fall sports before they do?  

They're all waiting to see which one of them will blink first.  The rest will quickly follow suit citing safety, no true playoffs, etc.  The only thing stopping it right now is that sweet tv money.  That's hard to quit, but it's just a matter of time until they announce no college sports in 2020.

[kopp0e 1135]

58 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

They're all waiting to see which one of them will blink first.  The rest will quickly follow suit citing safety, no true playoffs, etc.  The only thing stopping it right now is that sweet tv money.  That's hard to quit, but it's just a matter of time until they announce no college sports in 2020.

You are most likely correct, expect B1G & PAC to attempt to look "uniformed" in any move:

 

[Herpa Derpa 6132]

4 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

You are most likely correct, expect B1G & PAC to attempt to look "uniformed" in any move:

 

If I was a gambling man, I would put every dime you had that neither Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse or Boston College will play this fall due to the lockdown status of the underlying states.  That matters, as shitty as they are.  Non-confs will be announced cancelled, and the loss of just one or two more (See UNC, etc.) will have a domino effect on either B1G or ACC.  And then we're off to the shutdown races.  I just think that's there's so many inter-connected moving parts, that once the cancellations start it's over.  Love to be wrong.  At the very least, I hold out hope that at least one (cough cough) conference may have enough underlying support to forge ahead, just for the sake of a conference Champion.  Easier to justify when you consider said conference title the de faction national title anyway.  We'll all be living in a Danielson and Nessler world.

[Js1 85649]

I assumed the PAC would cancel first. Between California and the 2 Arizona schools where cases are spiking, that’s half the conference schools right there 

[gmr548 16617]

If I was a gambling man, I would put every dime you had that neither Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse or Boston College will play this fall due to the lockdown status of the underlying states.  That matters, as shitty as they are.  Non-confs will be announced cancelled, and the loss of just one or two more (See UNC, etc.) will have a domino effect on either B1G or ACC.  And then we're off to the shutdown races.  I just think that's there's so many inter-connected moving parts, that once the cancellations start it's over.  Love to be wrong.  At the very least, I hold out hope that at least one (cough cough) conference may have enough underlying support to forge ahead, just for the sake of a conference Champion.  Easier to justify when you consider said conference title the de faction national title anyway.  We'll all be living in a Danielson and Nessler world.

SEC- only college football season is far worse than no college football season.

[MotownHorn 1798]

This is all so unbelievably stupid

We all stayed home for 2 months so our “leaders” could do precisely jack shit to mitigate the crisis. 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5800]

43 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

If I was a gambling man, I would put every dime you had that neither Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse or Boston College will play this fall due to the lockdown status of the underlying states.  That matters, as shitty as they are.  Non-confs will be announced cancelled, and the loss of just one or two more (See UNC, etc.) will have a domino effect on either B1G or ACC.  And then we're off to the shutdown races.  I just think that's there's so many inter-connected moving parts, that once the cancellations start it's over.  Love to be wrong.  At the very least, I hold out hope that at least one (cough cough) conference may have enough underlying support to forge ahead, just for the sake of a conference Champion.  Easier to justify when you consider said conference title the de faction national title anyway.  We'll all be living in a Danielson and Nessler world.

I haven't seen it mentioned, but canceling non con would create a mess with Notre Dame and the ACC 

[nnm 36735]

All the marginal schools that depend on the payouts for being body bag games for P5 schools are even more screwed. Without the big payouts of non-con are cancelled, their already screwed up budgets are eviscerated. When the dominoes start to fall, it’s going to be even more of a crap storm, stretching years.
 

I will not at all be surprised to see a number of economically marginal schools drop CFB. And those are the same schools that can least afford to have students stay away. So if they go to an online-only model for the fall or a year, and students decide to avoid the big price tag and instead take online classes from the local juco, boy, it’s going to change everything in higher ed. 
 

For example, why in the world would someone pay $60k for SMU online (I get that it’s overpriced anyway, but still)?

[927 E. 41st 1124]

44 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

This is all so unbelievably stupid

We all stayed home for 2 months so our “leaders” could do precisely jack shit to mitigate the crisis. 

We have mitigated it it somewhat. But if you're waiting for "leaders" or government to protect you or solve any of your problems, you're liable to be waiting a long time.

Edited July 9, 2020 by 927 E. 41st

[Herpa Derpa 6132]

42 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I assumed the PAC would cancel first. Between California and the 2 Arizona schools where cases are spiking, that’s half the conference schools right there 

You're right, California is top of the list as well.

33 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I haven't seen it mentioned, but canceling non con would create a mess with Notre Dame and the ACC 

Yep, everything's connected.  Notre Dame has no season at this point.

[927 E. 41st 1124]

4 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

You're right, California is top of the list as well.

Yep, everything's connected.  Notre Dame has no season at this point.

I think I can live with that.

[Js1 85649]

9 minutes ago, 927 E. 41st said:

We have mitigated it it somewhat. But if you're waiting for "leaders" or government to protect you or solve any of your problems, you're libel to be waiting a long time.

*liable

[927 E. 41st 1124]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

*liable

Thanks.

[Red Five 41007]

Let Notre Dame play a Big 12 schedule. The only condition is that they have to stay here going forward. 

[kopp0e 1135]

Notre Dame, more or less plays it's 5 game ACC contracted schedule, like a conference slate, stuck between Stanford & USC:

Quote

DATE

OPPONENT

LOCATION

TIME / RESULT

TV

 

Sat, Sep 5

 

@ Navy

Annapolis, Md.

TBA

ESPN

 

Sat, Sep 12

 

Arkansas

Notre Dame Stadium (Notre Dame, IN)

2:30pm (ET)

NBC

 

Sat, Sep 19

 

Western Michigan

Notre Dame Stadium (Notre Dame, IN)

2:30pm (ET)

NBC

 

Sat, Sep 26

 

@ Wake Forest

Bank of America Stadium (Charlotte, NC)

TBA

TBA

 

Sat, Oct 3

 

Wisconsin *

Green Bay, WI

7:00pm (ET)

NBC

 

Sat, Oct 10

 

Stanford

Notre Dame Stadium (Notre Dame, IN)

7:30pm (ET)

NBC

 

Sat, Oct 17

 

@ Pittsburgh

Heinz Field

TBA

TBA

 

Sat, Oct 31

 

Duke

Notre Dame Stadium (Notre Dame, IN)

3:30pm (ET)

NBC

 

Sat, Nov 7

 

Clemson

Notre Dame Stadium (Notre Dame, IN)

7:30pm (ET)

NBC

 

Sat, Nov 14

 

@ Georgia Tech

Mercedes Benz Stadium (Atlanta, GA)

TBA

TBA

 

Sat, Nov 21

 

Louisville

Notre Dame Stadium (Notre Dame, IN)

2:30pm (ET)

NBC

 

Sat, Nov 28

 

@ USC

LA Memorial Coliseum (Los Angeles, CA)

TBA

TBA

The Irish would be stuck in a tough spot if ACC closes up shop for 2020 as that would be Oct.-10, to Nov.-28, without a game...

[Duval Street 420]

9 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

Notre Dame, more or less plays it's 5 game ACC contracted schedule, like a conference slate, stuck between Stanford & USC:

The Irish would be stuck in a tough spot if ACC closes up shop for 2020 as that would be Oct.-10, to Nov.-28, without a game...

And if there are no non-con games that would be 2020 without a game.

[TonyTexas 10537]

 

[Js1 85649]

3 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

I wouldn't be shocked about this.

The logistics of schooling at home but participating in athletics is.... puzzling.  And unfair.  Schools aren't going to have robust testing procedures or the money to procure that many tests on a weekly basis for kids to play.  College and pro, sure.  But not all the high schools in Texas. 

[927 E. 41st 1124]

9 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

Sucks for the kids. If this sticks around for 4+ years would high schools still have sports programs? 

Hopefully the much hated "big pharma" can come up with a vaccine, of course the conspiracy/anti-vax crowd will have some negative spin on it.

[wood 11303]

On 7/7/2020 at 12:53 PM, Ghost of LL said:

The State Fair of Texas was canceled this morning.  So if we're going to have football this fall, we probably need a different location for Texas-ou.

Why? Is there going to be a Texas State Fair at some other stadium?

As I said earlier, that's a door that should NEVER be opened.

[Js1 85649]

1 minute ago, wood said:

Why? Is there going to be a Texas State Fair at some other stadium?

As I said earlier, that's a door that should NEVER be opened.

You don't need the fair to have the game

And more importantly, the lack of fair + outdoor stadium is ideal for this environment. 

[wood 11303]

On 7/7/2020 at 2:09 PM, orange dream said:

Concerned about HS football also.  My son will be a Senior, won't play in college, so this will be it.  I'm hoping for the best but bracing for the worst.  Getting more ragey by the day at people who refuse to wear masks, make any attempt to social distance, etc. because of the infringement on their rights.

Yep, the restrictions on our daily lives wouldn't have to be so bad if people would just wear masks, etc. Instead, they shout "My rights" and diminish our lives much more than if they'd just stfu & put the got damn mask on. The irony...

[wood 11303]

30 minutes ago, Js1 said:

You don't need the fair to have the game

And more importantly, the lack of fair + outdoor stadium is ideal for this environment. 

Exactly.

[MotownHorn 1798]

1 hour ago, 927 E. 41st said:

We have mitigated it it somewhat. But if you're waiting for "leaders" or government to protect you or solve any of your problems, you're liable to be waiting a long time.

By “mitigate” you mean we’ve had cases steadily grow for months now?

Your second point is taken for sure. It’s sad though. And sucks

[BrazilHorn 6638]

47 minutes ago, 927 E. 41st said:

Sucks for the kids. If this sticks around for 4+ years would high schools still have sports programs? 

Hopefully the much hated "big pharma" can come up with a vaccine, of course the conspiracy/anti-vax crowd will have some negative spin on it.

Westlake would play Lake Travis every weekend before they didn't play football.

[927 E. 41st 1124]

5 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

By “mitigate” you mean we’ve had cases steadily grow for months now?

Your second point is taken for sure. It’s sad though. And sucks

No, not spiking like NYC on a nationwide basis is pretty good mitigation. We have so few weapons to fight this foe, it's a small victory just to not overwhelm the soldiers on the front line. Or from our perspective, I'd say its best not to be needing bed 101 at a 100 bed hospital. Then it really is  "Game over man!"

[Lerka Lerka 1094]

39 minutes ago, 927 E. 41st said:

No, not spiking like NYC on a nationwide basis is pretty good mitigation. We have so few weapons to fight this foe, it's a small victory just to not overwhelm the soldiers on the front line. Or from our perspective, I'd say its best not to be needing bed 101 at a 100 bed hospital. Then it really is  "BALL GAME man!"

FIFY

[mulletpelini 5216]

46 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

Westlake would play Lake Travis every weekend before they didn't play football.

[GHOSTUSER 361]

Now idiots in Congress are weighing in. Awesome.

Meanwhile, Blumental and Senator Corey Booker (D-N.J.) have introduced legislation that would prevent schools from asking college athletes to sign COVID-19 waivers. Blumenthal calls the waiver requests “an implicit recognition of the dangers [of] having those students come back.”

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by Iconoclast Texan

[mulletpelini 5216]

and this is when the parents start to get involved.  Just about every prediction I've ever made on here was 100% and the exact opposite is usually the result.  When the NCAA tourney got called, I pretty much resigned to the fact that there would be no college football OR basketball (20-21 season).  Please let me be wrong again.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

3 hours ago, nnm said:

All the marginal schools that depend on the payouts for being body bag games for P5 schools are even more screwed. Without the big payouts of non-con are cancelled, their already screwed up budgets are eviscerated. When the dominoes start to fall, it’s going to be even more of a crap storm, stretching years.
 

I will not at all be surprised to see a number of economically marginal schools drop CFB. And those are the same schools that can least afford to have students stay away. So if they go to an online-only model for the fall or a year, and students decide to avoid the big price tag and instead take online classes from the local juco, boy, it’s going to change everything in higher ed. 
 

For example, why in the world would someone pay $60k for SMU online (I get that it’s overpriced anyway, but still)?

I agree that the marginal schools will get hurt without their three $1M non con payday games this year. However, they won't drop football. They'll drop other sports (like Stanford and 18 other schools did yesterday). No way they cut off the best funding source for them going forward.

[Js1 85649]

6 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

I agree that the marginal schools will get hurt without their three $1M non con payday games this year. However, they won't drop football. They'll drop other sports (like Stanford and 18 other schools did yesterday). No way they cut off the best funding source for them going forward.

Baseball will be first on the chopping block, as we've seen a few schools already do. 

[Pasken 1309]

3 hours ago, MotownHorn said:

This is all so unbelievably stupid

We all stayed home for 2 months so our “leaders” could do precisely jack shit to mitigate the crisis. 

This. Apple and Google worked overtime for a contract tracing bluetooth protocol and as far as I'm aware there is no national or Texas app that uses it.

[Pasken 1309]

I wish they would aim at a much lower but way more reasonable goal. 2 games. Rivalry game (ex. UT/OU) mid season and a bowl game at the end. I think having the mindset that it's all or nothing is going to land you with nothing. 

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

I said this elsewhere but the financial impacts on multiple d1 schools are potentially way too severe.

 

They won’t cancel until the very last minute, if at all. This is why you see season ticket reductions and distancing announcements at nfl stadiums starting to trickle out but as far as I am aware, nothing of this sort from P5 or Mid Majors.

 

[927 E. 41st 1124]

2 minutes ago, Pasken said:

I wish they would aim at a much lower but way more reasonable goal. 2 games. Rivalry game (ex. UT/OU) mid season and a bowl game at the end. I think having the mindset that it's all or nothing is going to land you with nothing. 

Losing the non-cons is a big step in that direction but I think the overall revenue for the season will take huge hit if 50% or 25% capacity is mandated. I would imagine the reason they wouldn't consider a 2 game season would be all of the expense/lawsuit risk without enough income to make it practical.

While I think there are multiple aspects that could be the deciding factor, I don't expect any responsible AD to approve of a huge money sink hole of a plan.

[4th&Five 41617]

siap

 

[Dr Fear 1268]

17 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

siap

 

Big 12 vs. Big 10 games:

Sept 12: ISU @ Iowa

Sept. 17: Maryland @ WVU

 

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

siap
 

Y’all better see if you can get a refund for those baton rouge hotel rooms.

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1084]

3 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said:

 

 

Y’all better see if you can get a refund for those baton rouge hotel rooms.

 

 

the SEC will try to end up the only ones playing so as to guarantee a championship, if they can get away with it.  

[Dr Fear 1268]

2 minutes ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

the SEC will try to end up the only ones playing so as to guarantee a championship, if they can get away with it.  

I wouldn't rule out the SEC & Big 12 agreeing to something.

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1084]

2 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

I wouldn't rule out the SEC & Big 12 agreeing to something.

So, Bama over OU 55-10 in the final, then.

 

[Scholz 11980]

6 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said:

Y’all better see if you can get a refund for those baton rouge hotel rooms.

 

 

I'm sure the Cajuns will deal with their customers in a fair and above board manner.

[Lobwedgephil 1139]

So the Irish get the year off? 

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

So the Irish get the year off? 

I looked at thier schedule. It’s acc heavy this year. But they just lost a game against Wisconsin

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1084]

3 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said:

I looked at thier schedule. It’s acc heavy this year. But they just lost a game against Wisconsin

They have a 5 games a year deal with the ACC, so that makes sense.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8834]

There goes Ohio St @ Oregon



The rest will follow suit. So we’re delaying the season 3 weeks so far?

[dbecks 442]

13 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said:

 

 

Y’all better see if you can get a refund for those baton rouge hotel rooms.

 

 

Paid for mine with points... and am able to get those refunded.  Texas-LSU ain't gonna happen.

[tx ind 7013]

When the SEC follows suit then aggy will claim that the SEC did not lose a non-conf game 

Edited July 9, 2020 by tx ind