College Football in 2020 in danger?

[notre dame joe 197]

4 hours ago, Nivek said:

Well, since a playoff is out of discussion, time to dust off the BCS.

BCStuffit.  Play 10 games and vote on who had the best season as it worked for 100 years.

[TheStoicPaisano 9,939]

Am I missing something here? Lawrence and Klatt keep harping on kids having to move back to single-parent or multi-gen homes.

Wouldn’t they all stay in their off-campus apartments? You still have access to training table and all the doctors. 

 

 

[Bernard 879]

Send all the players to New Zealand , or some other COVID-free place, for a semester abroad. Play all the games at Eden Park. We can have college football every night of the week. TV revenue out the ying yang. 

Bernard 

[staboner 4,988]

2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Both can be true, and are.

thanks. was going to be my response to that post. just amazes me that people will fight tooth and nail over a pile of shit.

this is going to be interesting. or terrible. or funny. i'll try with the later first. 

[kopp0e 1,135]

 

[kopp0e 1,135]

 

[kopp0e 1,135]

Ok, last one for now: (what does this mean..?)

 

[Sgt Hulk 13,845]

26 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

 

lol lets go   seeing aggy in the west lulzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 

[Bartles 769]

There are some good points in the Klatt video, though he doesn't explain why he called out the media on twitter the day before. One thing he mentions but doesn't spell out is the massive testing programs the schools were beginning to implement...players and staff are much safer continuing to go through that process than just shutting it down, games or not.

I guess we don't really know if athletes will still be tested if seasons are postponed. Most likely not, and it wouldn't be surprising if schools canceled their test orders rather than give them to other students/staff.

[gmr548 16,617]

So if they "plan" on moving the season to spring, how many of our guys opt out and declare for the draft ahead of it?

How many players on Texas are basically guaranteed to be a second round pick at absolute minimum?

[MotownHorn 1,798]

8 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Lmao. This is so fucking stupid. MLB, MLS, NBA all started up. PGA started back. NFL will start up. But it's about masks for college football? Nah. the NCAA and these conferences are just fucking inept and have no idea how to handle any adversity. But yes, blame random people who didn't wear a mask as to why college football might not play.

Professional vs amateur sports? What’s the difference between them and why might community infection rates affect their ability to go on in different ways?

Real high level thinking for you here, I know.

Edited August 10, 2020 by MotownHorn

[Armybrat 40,920]

8 hours ago, SHOOTER12 said:

Color me surprised.🤔

Decades ago it got too stressful to watch the Horns on the tube, especially when I started taking my blood pressure during the televised games, and that has carried over into the flatscreen era.

[Halohal 503]

 

[Pam Cummings 9,684]

17 hours ago, Updawg said:

I’ve always wondered if clay is a complete dumbass or a good troll collecting money.

He's a fucking cunt who says a bunch of bullshit he doesn't believe into a microphone for money.

[Pimphand 5,926]

1 hour ago, kopp0e said:

Ok, last one for now: (what does this mean..?)

They are indecisive pussies. 

Time to cancel the sport.

[Chad 1,728]

There is a lot of speculation going around that the Big 10 could cancel all of their fall sports before their meeting on Tuesday and the PAC is leaning towards cancelling as well. If they cancel there will be an overwhelming amount of pressure on the Big 12, SEC and ACC to follow suit. I had an uneasy feeling that when conferences began cancelling OOC slates that the dominoes wouldn't stop falling there.

 

[SwanderedTalent 5,761]

10 minutes ago, Chad said:

If they cancel there will be an overwhelming amount of pressure on the Big 12, SEC and ACC to follow suit

bullshit

[Chuckie Finster 22,752]

1 hour ago, kopp0e said:

 

It's been really weird to watch certain sportswriters realize over the past week that college football isn't immune to what the entire rest of the country has gone through over the past few months.

[Sandman 3,415]

6 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Am I missing something here? Lawrence and Klatt keep harping on kids having to move back to single-parent or multi-gen homes.

Wouldn’t they all stay in their off-campus apartments? You still have access to training table and all the doctors. 

 

 

Probably because many of those players aren't there for school. So if students aren't allowed on campus, why stick around? They can go back home, smoke weed and slay poon. Or maybe that's just what I'd do.

[SimkinsMan 4,421]

9 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Lmao. This is so fucking stupid. MLB, MLS, NBA all started up. PGA started back. NFL will start up. But it's about masks for college football? Nah. the NCAA and these conferences are just fucking inept and have no idea how to handle any adversity. But yes, blame random people who didn't wear a mask as to why college football might not play.

This is a HOT take. Unfortunately what it misses is that those are all pro sports leagues. It's not about the NCAA and University AD's being inept, although there is a fair amount of that to be sure, it's about putting thousands of student-athletes in a risky situation for which they are not being compensated; not having the resources to test them; not having the power to compel them to live in a bubble; and not having the financial resources to deal with years a resulting liability due to COVID-19 complications, etc.

And masks are a big deal. If the background reservoir of the virus were not so high, some of the risks mentioned above would be lower, and more tolerable.

[Neonmoon 38,130]

baseless speculation

Big 10/Pac 12 agreed to cancel 2020 and wanted to get ACC/Big12/SEC to agree to announce at same time. Hence the tweets saying this is coming to an end soon. Then now there is 'more to discuss', meaning the Other 3 said no thanks, we're playing. Which has put Big 10/Pac 12 is a weird position. If they still cancel, there will be an exodus of players transferring to the other 3 conferences. (players not good enough to be drafted, but good enough to play in NFL, so they need to get another year of film). This would set these conferences back. So now they're like, let's talk this out more. Maybe negotiate with the players more?

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,357]

1 hour ago, MotownHorn said:

Professional vs amateur sports? What’s the difference between them and why might community infection rates affect their ability to go on in different ways?

Real high level thinking for you here, I know.

"amateur"...  

[Bartles 769]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

baseless speculation

Big 10/Pac 12 agreed to cancel 2020 and wanted to get ACC/Big12/SEC to agree to announce at same time. Hence the tweets saying this is coming to an end soon. Then now there is 'more to discuss', meaning the Other 3 said no thanks, we're playing. Which has put Big 10/Pac 12 is a weird position. If they still cancel, there will be an exodus of players transferring to the other 3 conferences. (players not good enough to be drafted, but good enough to play in NFL, so they need to get another year of film). This would set these conferences back. So now they're like, let's talk this out more. Maybe negotiate with the players more?

The cold reality is the B1G/Pac actually do have enough clout to make the others look reckless if they try to play. There's not enough time for many players to transfer, and the good ones will go pro anyway.

I'm curious if some G5 league like Sun Belt or MWC would try to just play in the fall for TV purposes. They aren't making the playoff, and might be able to keep whatever pro prospects they have for a fall season.

[Eastwood 4,394]

"amateur"...  

Well, all the pro leagues have player unions that forced the leagues to come to the table and guarantee safety measures. Some are working, some are not. The college players, although they didn't go to their college to play school, have zero representation and are 100% at the whims of their coaches and administrators.

[Ghost of Shag 2,616]

40 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

bullshit

bullshit to your bullshit

[Neonmoon 38,130]

24 minutes ago, Bartles said:

The cold reality is the B1G/Pac actually do have enough clout to make the others look reckless if they try to play. There's not enough time for many players to transfer, and the good ones will go pro anyway.

I'm curious if some G5 league like Sun Belt or MWC would try to just play in the fall for TV purposes. They aren't making the playoff, and might be able to keep whatever pro prospects they have for a fall season.

They can't afford to play in the fall with a conference only schedule. They survive on P5 game money. Take away the 1.2 million x2 they get for playing P5 games, and they're done. 

edit: After looking at some of the finances, they probably could do it, but they'd need to cut costs by around 10-15%

Edited August 10, 2020 by Neonmoon

[Randolph Duke 4,034]

24 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

baseless speculation

Big 10/Pac 12 agreed to cancel 2020 and wanted to get ACC/Big12/SEC to agree to announce at same time. Hence the tweets saying this is coming to an end soon. Then now there is 'more to discuss', meaning the Other 3 said no thanks, we're playing. Which has put Big 10/Pac 12 is a weird position. If they still cancel, there will be an exodus of players transferring to the other 3 conferences. (players not good enough to be drafted, but good enough to play in NFL, so they need to get another year of film). This would set these conferences back. So now they're like, let's talk this out more. Maybe negotiate with the players more?

The Big 10 school presidents don't care in the least about the ACC, Big 12, or SEC. Neither do Pac school presidents. They are going to do what is best for the reputation of their individual institutions. In the case of the Big 10, with the University of Chicago example still very much in mind.

The athletics departments of the Big 10/Pac schools are not making the ultimate decisions at their respective schools.

[NoctambulantBrobdingnagian 540]

22 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Don’t care either way. This past decade has inoculated me from caring much about any college sports.

I never watch the Horns away games on TV for that matter.

that's the radio you're looking at dude

it happens

[Eskimohorn 5,644]

LOL G Leagu NFL games would blow away Sun Belt conference attendance numbers.

Have you been to a CenTex Spurs game? The same D League Spurs team that would crush college teams. Yeah, me neither.

[RomaVicta 30,031]

56 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

It's been really weird to watch certain sportswriters realize over the past week that college football isn't immune to what the entire rest of the country has gone through over the past few months.

If there is a more greatly deceived group of people regarding their own intellectual ability and clarity of vision than sportswriters, I've never seen it. Watching them debate whether there should be a college season where they have to expand from the usual world they don't well understand to the broader the world that apparently makes no sense to them at all makes football-fucking monkeys look like Rhodes Scholars.

Yes, let's let the people who must see themselves as invincible to do what they do on the football field weigh the risk and consequence in broad exposure to Covid.

Let's get Joel Klatt to expand on the scientific data he's seen and pronounce Covid of negligilbe risk to those of college age. No scientist knows the long term effects on the body from being infected, but Joel does!

Let's have fans cooped up in their houses running out of TV to watch call everyone pussies who doesn't back up those would-be invincibles in their quest to put invincibility to the test! It's all a Marvel Comic anyway. I seen't it on the TV ever'day.

America has got this wrong at every step. Sure, let's pump up the balls and put on the cleats based on the innate genius of Joel Klatt and anybody else with access to a broadcast mic.

I want college football. It's the only sport I still care about. I shouldn't get to decide based on either my desire or my grasp of Covid.

But, of course, I'll defer to Joel and the pretty QB from Clemson.

Idiot World

 

 

Oh, I left out the sports writer and fan inclination to make statements out of guesses. A&M loses five games. The Brockermeyers are coming here. Bob Stoops will win a half dozen national championships. There will never be a college football playoff. Baylor will be punished any minute.

Don't sweat the Covid. I seen the scientific data and have heard from authorities. ABSOLUTELY NO POLITICS!!!!!

World. See: idiot.

 

Edited August 10, 2020 by RomaVicta

[4th&Five 41,599]

 

[Scholz 11,965]

13 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Have you been to a CenTex Spurs game? The same D League Spurs team that would crush college teams. Yeah, me neither.

Yes.  I was given free tickets by my son's youth league.

[RomaVicta 30,031]

The SEC would be tempting the Fates to go it alone. A few ancient Greeks might rise from their graves to see some real old school hubris flying into the storm of nemesis. Ask Agamemnon how that all works out.

SEC: We have a chance to corner the market on college football! We will cement ourselves like Ozymandias on the high pedestal of fame and greatness!

[NoctambulantBrobdingnagian 540]

14 hours ago, The University said:

smells like the growth of a long term plan to dissolve memberships from financially struggling athletic departments in a move to consolidate the major conferences. with or without the ncaa.

if we can divest from Baylor, then I call that a substantial silver lining to the current apocalypse we find ourselves in 

[Nivek 16,992]

How do I ask Agamemnon? Got his email?

[nnm 36,667]

1 minute ago, Nivek said:

How do I ask Agamemnon? Got his email?

http://agamemnon.com/contact.php

[TonyTexas 10,534]

 

[SwanderedTalent 5,761]

48 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

bullshit to your bullshit

No. You guys seem to think the Big Ten has any influence whatsoever on what the SEC does. And that is bullshit. They're going to play.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,559]

30 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

The fact that the SEC may be the only conference wanting to go forward should tell the other conferences they are probably doing the correct thing.  Also, if you were a probable top draft pick (first 3 rounds) over the next 2-3 years why would you play?  I mean especially the OL and DL that are 300 pounds and kind of overweight.  I wouldn’t risk possibly getting Covid and maybe having long term lung or heart issues and having pro teams not draft me because of those issues.  It would then just lead to those kids eventually suing the colleges which is why the colleges are backing out of playing right now.  

[BrazilHorn 6,635]

2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

Yeah you know Iowa gives zero fucks about their players based on all the S&C shenanigans there.

[Neonmoon 38,130]

ha if Big 12 plays, I'm all for giving Nebraska another L for old times sake

Edited August 10, 2020 by Neonmoon

[Dnaguy 12,104]

3 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

Does it have to be unanimous to suspend play?

[SwanderedTalent 5,761]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

baseless speculation

Big 10/Pac 12 agreed to cancel 2020 and wanted to get ACC/Big12/SEC to agree to announce at same time. Hence the tweets saying this is coming to an end soon. Then now there is 'more to discuss', meaning the Other 3 said no thanks, we're playing. Which has put Big 10/Pac 12 is a weird position. If they still cancel, there will be an exodus of players transferring to the other 3 conferences. (players not good enough to be drafted, but good enough to play in NFL, so they need to get another year of film). This would set these conferences back. So now they're like, let's talk this out more. Maybe negotiate with the players more?

This is precisely what is going on.  The Big Ten and Pac-12 want to cancel because that is the "safest" response. The Big 12 and ACC are ambivalent. The SEC is like "fuck you, we're playing". 

[Guest Lobo]

Then I shall continue to live my life based on one simple and two-part premise, with the exception of how they play between the white lines of the gridiron, live life exactly the opposite of how the people of the SEC live theirs.  

[Ghost of Shag 2,616]

1 minute ago, SwanderedTalent said:

No. You guys seem to think the Big Ten has any influence whatsoever on what the SEC does. And that is bullshit. They're going to play.

It's not about the Big Ten having influence over what the SEC does.

It's about the media having influence over what the SEC does. Once the Big Ten/Pac 12 fold, there WILL be overwhelming pressure on the others to do the same.  That's not even arguable.  It's obvious, though it's apparently "bullshit" to you.  

[SwanderedTalent 5,761]

1 minute ago, Lobo said:

Then I shall continue to live my life based on one simple and two-part premise, with the exception of how they play between the white lines of the gridiron, live life exactly the opposite of how the people of the SEC live theirs.  

I'm no fan of the SEC or the SEC "lifestyle" generally speaking, but I have to reluctantly join them on this one.

[SwanderedTalent 5,761]

1 minute ago, Ghost of Shag said:

That's not even arguable

there's your problem, fishbulb

[Fozzz 152]

This Trevor Lawrence shit is hilarious. The hero of the chuds until he mentioned a players association. 

Edited August 10, 2020 by Fozzz

[Dnaguy 12,104]

We've now entered a sub-stage of grief.

Also known as Mountain Dew level bargaining... *Trademark DNAguy 2020.... due to its extreme nature.

In MDB(Mountain Dew bargaining) , you get to relive all the denial and anger over again after each iteration of a bargain. 

It's like being on the Aggy rollercoaster in perpetuity!

 

[Bojack 2,082]

16 minutes ago, Nivek said:

How do I ask Agamemnon? Got his email?