College Football in 2020 in danger?

[mulletpelini 5211]

HAHA Athlon, wrong again, undefeated!

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/nebraska-football-game-game-predictions-2020

 

2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Who says they have to go home?

they just can't. stay. here.

[Sgt Hulk 13716]

2 great questions of the last decade.  What if colt didn’t get injured. What if sam played in. 2020   Fuck 

[Sgt Hulk 13716]

1 minute ago, Fletch said:

Oh? It’s my fault, huh? Maybe if the governors and our “President”came out and said where masks at all times, wash and stay at home for a bit unless you absolutely have to. Oh wait! I did all those things by myself. And now it’s August and I’m fucking pissed cause morons like you, that fuckin piece of shit Johnny sack and  iconotard for just being the imbeciles y’all are. 
 

This is on y’all. The stupidity you spew all over the boards and I’m sure in real life too cost 160,000 deaths and climbing. Y’all have blood on yalls hands. Hope you dumb fucks are happy!  

Is it hard being this stupid. Or is it natural to you. Pussy 

[Fletch 5800]

Awwww I’m sorry iconotard. Did I hurt your precious little feelings? Maybe blowing a tranny will help you relax. 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

There are a few issues at play here:

1) If you described college football without context (university sanctioned gatherings of 100+ people in closed quarters with extensive physical contact where mask wearing/social distancing is near impossible) every single university in the country would cancel it before you even finished your sentence.  Allowing it to proceed while other, far less dangerous activities have been cancelled, is an admission that football players are not "normal students."  

2) We live in a society of blame.  The same people that are pleading to play right now would most likely be the first to try and sue the school/conference/NCAA if they get sick/die from COVID acquired on the football field.  Just look at the Marlins fiasco ("Of course the players want to play...how could the MLB not cancel that game after there appeared to be signs of an outbreak?!")... and those were professionals being paid to play.

3) These players are still students.  Let's throw out a scenario where a team returns from a game with an outbreak.  Now, you are putting an entire campus of students at risk.  Even if you get the entire football team to accept responsibility for their actions, do you want to be the school President when a kid who doesn't give a shit about football but shares an English class with the football team and gets sick because of a virus acquired playing a university-sanctioned game?

I love this sport with all of my heart and want to watch it in the fall more than anything.  But a lot of people are disingenuously trying to oversimplify the issue.  

[Patrick Bateman 3912]

18 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Is there another way outside of total isolation that these players will be more protected not on their team? 
honest question because I have to think with all the monitoring that the coaches are doing all these guys staying together monitored every day tested often and kept pretty much in a protective bubble away from society during the season surely they’re more protected being on the team then they are going back into society without being monitored there every step of the way. Yes I know college kids go to parties and what about six street etc. etc. but I would wager that coaches will put some type of protocol in place where after games there forbid them from that I don’t know just spit bawling.  I guess without the coaches literally monitoring your every move since there’s no team sport going on your chances increase of catching it being released back to society with freedoms for lack of a better statement 

Yes, a protocol will work just fine for 18-22 year olds.  I mean, it worked so well in MLB.  None of those guys have gone out and broken protocols...... and they got money on the line.

 

[Fletch 5800]

1 minute ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Is it hard being this stupid. Or is it natural to you. Pussy 

Good lord dude. Yes. I’m the pussy for being rightfully nervous about a pandemic. Fuck off

[irishtexan 11518]

3 minutes ago, Fletch said:

Oh? It’s my fault, huh? Maybe if the governors and our “President”came out and said where masks at all times, wash and stay at home for a bit unless you absolutely have to. Oh wait! I did all those things by myself. And now it’s August and I’m fucking pissed cause morons like you, that fuckin piece of shit Johnny sack and  iconotard for just being the imbeciles y’all are. 
 

This is on y’all. The stupidity you spew all over the boards and I’m sure in real life too cost 160,000 deaths and climbing. Y’all have blood on yalls hands. Hope you dumb fucks are happy!  

not the fucking place for this shit.

[Hagbard Celine 10855]

2 hours ago, Fozzz said:

Th presidents and ADs will do what every great leader does when faced with a seemingly intractable problem - punt it. 

With first-hand knowledge of a conversation 2 weeks ago with CDC (i.e. not me but someone i know), this is the most precise post in this thread to date.

[David Dennison 18856]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Yes, a protocol will work just fine for 18-22 year olds.  I mean, it worked so well in MLB.  None of those guys have gone out and broken protocols...... and they got money on the line.

 

Expecting college students not to do college student things seems a little naive. 

There will breakouts on countless college campuses this fall if students are there.

Edited August 10, 2020 by David Dennison

[Sgt Hulk 13716]

2 minutes ago, Fletch said:

Good lord dude. Yes. I’m the pussy for being rightfully nervous about a pandemic. Fuck off

You’re the reason they put warning labels on shampoo bottles. Go back to the CR jerkoff 

[Fletch 5800]

 

5 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

not the fucking place for this shit.

Yeah I’m done. But it’s pretty difficult to separate the 2 at the moment 

 

Damn, icono and sgt get triggered pretty easily. Must be tough going through life as stupid as they are. 

Edited August 10, 2020 by Fletch
Idiots being cunts

[EZ$ 2104]

48 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yeah, scholarship limits haven't changed. Unless the SEC schools start cutting other guys, there aren't unlimited spots. 

Saban has the team doctor writing up medical retirements as you type...

[mulletpelini 5211]

heart conditions I'm betting.

[Horn Dogg 3897]

2 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:

shit, make it permanent

Maybe find a creative way to kick Baylor out while we’re at it?

[Murfdogg21 4412]

If the primary concern is about the health of student athletes, which scenario gives them greater odds of catching the covids:

1. being “in a bubble” on campus with no other non-athlete students where they are tested weekly or whatever and they practice and play games, or

2. not playing this season, taking classes online while living at home and trying to resist the urge to hang out with their friends and chasing tail back in their home towns

If you see any athletes on Instagram etc you know they are not mastering the concept of social distancing.

[Hurtlocker 2212]

27 minutes ago, F250 said:

Someone already posted the numbers up thread, the AAL football attendance did better than the Sun Belt conference. A lot of G5 teams have very low attendance, a lot of G5 teams could skip the season and the students wouldn't even notice.

 

 

 

true, the #20 in attendance last year(Iowa) averaged 65k.   So it drops off pretty quick:

AAC: 29.4k

MWC: 23.2k

CUSA: 18.9k

Sunbelt: 18.2k

MAC: 15.5k

 

[Rudiger 1162]

17 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

With first-hand knowledge of a conversation 2 weeks ago with CDC (i.e. not me but someone i know), this is the most precise post in this thread to date.

I think that makes it second-hand knowledge.

[Sejjr 3246]

4 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If the primary concern is about the health of student athletes, which scenario gives them greater odds of catching the covids:

1. being “in a bubble” on campus with no other non-athlete students where they are tested weekly or whatever and they practice and play games, or

2. not playing this season, taking classes online while living at home and trying to resist the urge to hang out with their friends and chasing tail back in their home towns

If you see any athletes on Instagram etc you know they are not mastering the concept of social distancing.

The actual primary concern is liability. The lack of any clarity on long term effects would potentially mean legal issues years from now.  

[irishtexan 11518]

4 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If the primary concern is about the health of student athletes, which scenario gives them greater odds of catching the covids:

1. being “in a bubble” on campus with no other non-athlete students where they are tested weekly or whatever and they practice and play games, or

2. not playing this season, taking classes online while living at home and trying to resist the urge to hang out with their friends and chasing tail back in their home towns

If you see any athletes on Instagram etc you know they are not mastering the concept of social distancing.

I mean, it would obviously be ideal to find a way to bubble up the players, but why would they open up campus just for football players? I also don't think the expectation is that the kids won't do kid shit and ultimately get COVID. I think the concern is that they get COVID by playing football, and ultimately have to cancel games/the season. If it's inevitable that they're going to get this shit, just kick the can down the road to 2021.

Only way I could see this working would be to find a way to bubble up the players and have no fans in the stands. And no fans for football would be FUCKING WEIRD.

[Steamboat1874 4058]

So I guess there will be no college basketball this season as well.

Fuck.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10234]

9 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If the primary concern is about the health of student athletes, which scenario gives them greater odds of catching the covids:

1. being “in a bubble” on campus with no other non-athlete students where they are tested weekly or whatever and they practice and play games, or

2. not playing this season, taking classes online while living at home and trying to resist the urge to hang out with their friends and chasing tail back in their home towns

If you see any athletes on Instagram etc you know they are not mastering the concept of social distancing.

This.

There is enough uncertainty to justify cancelling the season.

The question now is will less (or more) football players contract COVID because of that decision.

[SimkinsMan 4386]

Ladies and gentlemen ... Clay Travis has just saved the season.

Just kidding, this is just going to further politicize a difficult decision that's already been made. Yay, culture wars?

[Nivek 16923]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

F it, man. The Big 12 and SEC will just go it alone.

Well, actually...

 

You just cannot put price on this type of leadership.    

[irishtexan 11518]

Trump advocating for a players union is not something I thought I'd see today.

[ouflak 60]

14 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

1. being “in a bubble” on campus with no other non-athlete students where they are tested weekly or whatever and they practice and play games, or

 

But how are you going to get these kids to agree to this? If they are a pro, sure for a few hundred thousand to millions a year, they might be happy to stay in a bubble for four months away from their family, friends, fans, and pretty much humanity in general except for their teammates and coaches. But for a scholarship? When they could be out having some fun like all of the rest of the students? Someone earlier in the thread mentioned increasing the stipend to sweeten the deal. How much are we talking?

Edited August 10, 2020 by ouflak

[Hurtlocker 2212]

Just now, Nivek said:

You just cannot put price on this type of leadership.    

Not sure there is much to be gained by being out in front on this one when you can just hold out and cancel at any time.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13584]

4 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

I mean, it would obviously be ideal to find a way to bubble up the players

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

4 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Trump advocating for a players union is not something I thought I'd see today.

There's no fucking way he knowingly did that.

[Veerbone 116]

4 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

If there is a more greatly deceived group of people regarding their own intellectual ability and clarity of vision than sportswriters, I've never seen it. Watching them debate whether there should be a college season where they have to expand from the usual world they don't well understand to the broader the world that apparently makes no sense to them at all makes football-fucking monkeys look like Rhodes Scholars.

Yes, let's let the people who must see themselves as invincible to do what they do on the football field weigh the risk and consequence in broad exposure to Covid.

Let's get Joel Klatt to expand on the scientific data he's seen and pronounce Covid of negligilbe risk to those of college age. No scientist knows the long term effects on the body from being infected, but Joel does!

Let's have fans cooped up in their houses running out of TV to watch call everyone pussies who doesn't back up those would-be invincibles in their quest to put invincibility to the test! It's all a Marvel Comic anyway. I seen't it on the TV ever'day.

America has got this wrong at every step. Sure, let's pump up the balls and put on the cleats based on the innate genius of Joel Klatt and anybody else with access to a broadcast mic.

I want college football. It's the only sport I still care about. I shouldn't get to decide based on either my desire or my grasp of Covid.

But, of course, I'll defer to Joel and the pretty QB from Clemson.

Idiot World

 

 

Oh, I left out the sports writer and fan inclination to make statements out of guesses. A&M loses five games. The Brockermeyers are coming here. Bob Stoops will win a half dozen national championships. There will never be a college football playoff. Baylor will be punished any minute.

Don't sweat the Covid. I seen the scientific data and have heard from authorities. ABSOLUTELY NO POLITICS!!!!!

World. See: idiot.

 

Won’t be any worse than a known risk called CTE.

[Foosters 17855]

Just now, Veerbone said:

Won’t be any worse than a known risk called CTE.

Shit. This is the first I've heard that CTE is contagious and can be passed to staff and other students.

This is much worse than I thought.

[JFKFC 4878]

1 minute ago, Veerbone said:

Won’t be any worse than a known risk called CTE.

How do you know?

[usmc0331horn 953]

3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

There's no fucking way he knowingly did that.

It's assuming he finally learned how to read.

[horngasm2020 116]

just make robot football. eliminate the dumb meat bags from the equation.

[Sejjr 3246]

So I guess #weareunited has stopped asking for 50% of revenues now that they are joining forces with #wewanttoplay. Or maybe they realize they actually need to play before they can ask for half the money. 

[Veerbone 116]

54 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Is there another way outside of total isolation that these players will be more protected not on their team? 
honest question because I have to think with all the monitoring that the coaches are doing all these guys staying together monitored every day tested often and kept pretty much in a protective bubble away from society during the season surely they’re more protected being on the team then they are going back into society without being monitored there every step of the way. Yes I know college kids go to parties and what about six street etc. etc. but I would wager that coaches will put some type of protocol in place where after games there forbid them from that I don’t know just spit bawling.  I guess without the coaches literally monitoring your every move since there’s no team sport going on your chances increase of catching it being released back to society with freedoms for lack of a better statement 

Umm sir, how dare you go past stage one in the process of rational decision making!

The fucking nerve of some people.

[Hornius Emeritus 12460]

[gmr548 16576]

Someone already posted the numbers up thread, the AAL football attendance did better than the Sun Belt conference. A lot of G5 teams have very low attendance, a lot of G5 teams could skip the season and the students wouldn't even notice.
 
 
 

The Austin Spurs are also a terrible example of college attendance outperforming minor league attendance given that we count Texas's basketball attendance in the dozens.

[Veerbone 116]

3 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Shit. This is the first I've heard that CTE is contagious and can be passed to staff and other students.

This is much worse than I thought.

This is the first I’ve heard the risks of COVID are mitigated when not among staff & students.   I have heard you are more likely to get CTE in a contact sport vs every day life.

Aggy fucks sheep.. don’t be a sheep.

 

[Sejjr 3246]

Adding #wewanttocoach to the list of hastags I never thought I'd live to see. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6559]

23 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If the primary concern is about the health of student athletes, which scenario gives them greater odds of catching the covids:

1. being “in a bubble” on campus with no other non-athlete students where they are tested weekly or whatever and they practice and play games, or

2. not playing this season, taking classes online while living at home and trying to resist the urge to hang out with their friends and chasing tail back in their home towns

If you see any athletes on Instagram etc you know they are not mastering the concept of social distancing.

I am hearing these are the two options but where is option 3?  You know the one where the student athletes go to campus like all the other students, live in their athletic dorms, take their classes whether virtual or in person and act like regular students minus the playing games part?  They can still go to their private gyms/stadiums to workout and train.  What am I missing?  

[6th Street 6392]

Harbaugh just glossing over the impact when the players return to class and hit up house parties in a couple of weeks? 

[Pig Bellmont 8715]

It’s all over but the crying. I hope we get to see Sam play again

[Dnaguy 11948]

24 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If the primary concern is about the health of student athletes, which scenario gives them greater odds of catching the covids:

1. being “in a bubble” on campus with no other non-athlete students where they are tested weekly or whatever and they practice and play games, or

2. not playing this season, taking classes online while living at home and trying to resist the urge to hang out with their friends and chasing tail back in their home towns

If you see any athletes on Instagram etc you know they are not mastering the concept of social distancing.

 

1. There is no requirement for being in a bubble currently. In addition, any form of close contact is a large risk. Even with weekly testing.

2. This is a false choice because no one said they had to go home

 

The answer is 

3. Being in a bubble with no other students... only those athletes on the team, weekly tests, non-contact practice / training only, and no games.

[gmr548 16576]

You would expect Universities of all institutions to understand the reality of the situation.

Well, yeah. I'm not sure what that has to do with the SEC though.

We seev what real universities are doing, as that's mostly what the Big Ten and Pac 12 consist of.

[kopp0e 1135]

We may be seeing the death of the current power 5 structure, right in front of our screens this week:

 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

Administrations know players are going to get sick with or without football. This is them washing their hands of responsibility because we live in a “blame the deepest pockets“ society. Now, let’s talk about the social fallout from all the young men with too much time on their hands and angry at the world...

[Foosters 17855]

1 minute ago, Veerbone said:

This is the first I’ve heard the risks of COVID are mitigated when not among staff & students.   I have heard you are more likely to get CTE in a contact sport vs every day life.

Aggy fucks sheep.. don’t be a sheep.

 

What a bullshit strawman argument.

And you're right, I should be a free thinker like you. You've got it all figured out. Which is why people like you have our country leading the world in deaths - because we won't succumb to fear. 

[Hurtlocker 2212]

11 minutes ago, horngasm2020 said:

just make robot football. eliminate the dumb meat bags from the equation.

[Veerbone 116]

2 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

Administrations know players are going to get sick with or without football. This is them washing their hands of responsibility because we live in a “blame the deepest pockets“ society. Now, let’s talk about the social fallout from all the young men with too much time on their hands and angry at the world...

#baylorwhitegirlslivesmatter