College Football in 2020 in danger?

[Hank_Hill 18803]

1 minute ago, HoustonFrog said:

Such bullshit man. Hah

Marcel Brooks. Zachary Evans.

[Don Johnson 4753]

11 minutes ago, HoustonFrog said:

While I agree this is bush league and SMU should have forced TCU to play walk ons, the game was previously cancelled and then TCU reached out to reschedule when our FCS cancelled on us. So not a total dodge. Although to be fair that was before we found out our QB has a broken heart

That’s complete bullshit. Y’all dodged SMU once, refusing to play them as your OOC game. They even said they would move the game to FW and STILL play in FW next year as well. Y’all chose Tenn Tech instead of the 100th game vs SMU. And only after they cancelled did you agree to play SMU. Has everything to do with SMU beating y’all last year and projected to be good. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Don Johnson

[texasstrong12 4668]

The Big 12 threshold doesn't apply to the non-conference games. I would bet anything TCU would be forced to play this game if it was a Big 12 game. 

[HoustonFrog 368]

That’s complete bullshit. Y’all dodged SMU once, refusing to play them as your OOC game. They even said they would move the game to FW and STILL play in FW next year as well. Y’all chose Tenn Tech instead of the 100th game vs SMU. And only after they cancelled did you agree to play SMU. Has everything to do with SMU beating y’all last year and projected to be good. 

Nah only partly correct. Why wouldn’t we have scheduled some random FCS team when Tenn Tech cancelled?

[sidis 9826]

man, who could have ever seen this coming?

[Don Johnson 4753]

2 minutes ago, HoustonFrog said:

Nah only partly correct. Why wouldn’t we have scheduled some random FCS team when Tenn Tech cancelled?

Because SMU made it public and shamed y’all.  You’ve now cancelled the game twice. 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article244741902.html

 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

What FCS school cancelled with TCU and who did they replace TCU with?

Normally in the FCS world, those teams freaking rely on the FBS pay days for budget reasons. It’s far more common for an FCS to cancel with another FCS to go play an FBS team and make hundreds of thousands more money.


Very few FCS programs can handle not having an FBS game check each year

[Ignatius 4017]

55 minutes ago, Monster said:

CDC says this flu, on its own, has killed roughly 11,000 people in 8 months.   Average age of those who died is 79 years old.  Each year, roughly 36,000 people die in car wrecks.  For the 0-24 age range, you're far more likely to die in a car wreck than covid.   Should we stop people from driving?

Are you plagiarizing Dr. Phil?

[mdleast 8289]

Get reaaallll

[Deej 76759]

I thought nothing killed cockroaches and they'd be here until the end of time.

[4th&Five 41525]

Roll Tide

 

Edited September 4, 2020 by 4th&Five

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Roll Tide  

They’ll be laughing at everyone with a full roster and 75% stadium capacity come October

[Doc Reeves 6434]

7 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

They’ll be laughing at everyone with a full roster and 75% stadium capacity come October

I really believe their FB team is probably one of the safest groups of humans on the planet at this point. 
Keeping their general students from fucking like Tech Jack rabbits on the other hand...

[DenverHorn 56]

4 hours ago, touchthemonolith said:

You really don't have to (and shouldn't) take my word for it. There's been plenty written about the lack of scientific consensus about playing CFB this year, rich with differing opinions expressed directly by experts themselves.

USA Today: Same data. Same research. But different conclusions on safety of college football.

Sports Illustrated: 'It's a F------ Mess': How and Why Football Conferences Are Arriving at Opposing Medical Conclusions

WebMD: Will COVID Sideline the College Football Season?

All based on the simple basis of "are there risks?", certainly but to what extent and that's where both CV19 & myocarditis  prove to be a non factor vs existing a well documented risks.   Myocarditis risk & awareness is not new to athletics, it just never before hit the radar due to being rare and the lesser of more predominant concerns (CTE, steroid abuse, pain killers, obesity etc).   

By the same measure the sport should have been cancelled years ago.   The issues being bantered today wouldn't even make it to the short list of a debate on why to cancel competitive athletics.

[Chet Steadman 940]

Great job frogs.  Letting the B12 down both on and off the field.  

Par for the course I ‘spose.

[JMFP 1120]

8 minutes ago, Chet Steadman said:

Great job frogs.  Letting the B12 down both on and off the field.  

Par for the course I ‘spose.

SMU should mark it down as a TCU forfeit on their record.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

 

 

I got this guy from buckeye planet or something lol.

 

 

This guy sure doesn’t hold anything back, hopefully he’s the anti coronabro, but earlier today he said there’s be an announcement today so

[touchthemonolith 646]

11 minutes ago, DenverHorn said:

All based on the simple basis of "are there risks?", certainly but to what extent and that's where both CV19 & myocarditis  prove to be a non factor vs existing a well documented risks.   Myocarditis risk & awareness is not new to athletics, it just never before hit the radar due to being rare and the lesser of more predominant concerns (CTE, steroid abuse, pain killers, obesity etc).   

By the same measure the sport should have been cancelled years ago.   The issues being bantered today wouldn't even make it to the short list of a debate on why to cancel competitive athletics.

I want to be clear: the position I believe you challenged is that there's no general consensus among experts about the safety of playing college football re the pandemic, so it's difficult for anyone to predict what the season will look like re the pandemic with a ton of confidence. My understanding is that you're arguing otherwise: either that there is a general consensus about the safety of playing college football and/or that we can predict what the season will look like with a high degree of confidence.

The fact that football players are dying from things other than COVID is actually totally irrelevant to the fact that football players will/may die because of COVID. It does not change the risks whatsoever and it does not make those risks even slightly more or less acceptable.

And yes, the sport should have been cancelled years ago. We're all going to hell for continuing to support it, and it's absolutely going to be worth it.

[Message Board User 12395]

2 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

Roll Tide

 

And yet not a single hospitalization.  From the article:

Friend said Wednesday he wasn’t aware of any UA student requiring hospitalization as a result of a COVID-19 diagnosis.

And hospitalizations statewide continue to drop in Alabama, suggesting that (at least so far) these cases have not led to spread from students to vulnerable populations.

Edited September 5, 2020 by Message Board User

[Neonmoon 38129]

Wait how many tested positive for TCU? What is the threshold to not play?

 

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The Big 12 Conference announced its football game cancellation thresholds.  The minimum number of players required to play a game has been set at 53.  The number is based on the entire roster, including all scholarship and walk-on players.
 
Additional minimum thresholds of available players were also established for offensive linemen (7), interior defensive linemen (4) and quarterback (1).  Teams falling below any of these benchmarks, based on game week test results, could still elect to play as scheduled if so desired.  Otherwise, upon approval by the Commissioner, the game would be declared a no-contest if it cannot be moved to a later date.
 
The Conference’s “9+1” 2020 schedule features a full round-robin among Big 12 teams, plus one non-conference game.  The schedule provides each team with two bye dates, plus the option to move the Dr Pepper Big 12 Championship back one week to December 19 if needed.  Open dates will be used for rescheduling games in the event a team does not have enough players to compete.
 
The non-conference portion of the Big 12 schedule kicks off next weekend, with Conference play beginning September 26^th.
 

 

Edited September 5, 2020 by Neonmoon

[Goodman 3273]

Patterson and his staff talk so much shit and that school hides behind it's private status, I can't wait to hear all the silver spoon fans defending their chicken shit coach.

Edited September 5, 2020 by Goodman

[notre dame joe 187]

11 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

Agree completely.  IMO, its all about optics.

Tweeting a picture of text is terrible optics.  

5 hours ago, Eugene11 said:

im sure they were screaming about their rights and amendments and saying fuck you government you arent the boss of me!     we are an extremely selfish people. 

UR sure the British subjects were screaming about amendments to their unwritten consitution.

[SaucyJack 3488]

On 9/3/2020 at 6:59 AM, LTbear said:

Ugly college football >>>>>>> literally any other sport

 

 

[aggie08 21496]

13 hours ago, Monster said:

It's a massive business that creates tens of thousands of jobs and keeps the lights on at Universities all over the US   And those Universities are the lifeblood for hundreds of thousands of people who live and work in the towns surrounding these schools.   Economies are interconnected. 

I do wonder how many people advocating for cancellation of other people's livelihoods have lost their own jobs or had their businesses destroyed by doomsday predictions that still haven't come true. 

CDC says this flu, on its own, has killed roughly 11,000 people in 8 months.   Average age of those who died is 79 years old.  Each year, roughly 36,000 people die in car wrecks.  For the 0-24 age range, you're far more likely to die in a car wreck than covid.   Should we stop people from driving?

If you want to quit your job for a year and wait around until the TV says it's "safe", go for it.  I'm sure you can do without money for 1 year, right?

Man, I actually agree with most of this post, but when you throw in this click bait Facebook bullshit, it completely neuters the point you're trying to make.

[Bartles 769]

9 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Wait how many tested positive for TCU? What is the threshold to not play?

 

 

They don't have to tell us. SMU is a non-conference game so the threshold doesn't apply. As some people posted earlier, this may have a lot to do with TCU realizing what was gonna happen on the field vs a solid Pony squad that will have already played a game.

[ouflak 60]

17 hours ago, ztejas said:

I think we can at least get a pretty fucking good idea. This is obviously being brought up in any meeting where deciding whether to play or not is the subject.

There have been 200k deaths and 6 million cases in this country. Covid might still be mysterious, but I don't think it's some grand mystery anymore. I think the risks are pretty well realized at this point and now it's up to us to decide what risk taking we are comfortable with and what risk taking needs to be condemned and disallowed. 

Excellent news. So what are the long term after effects for someone who has contracted the virus but was asymptomatic?

[stork642 4498]

14 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

The lengths TCU will go to to get out of this game. 

Lincoln Riley is taking notes.  He sounds like fucking Eeyore at his press conferences.  

[South Austin 52463]

39 minutes ago, stork642 said:

Lincoln Riley is taking notes.  He sounds like fucking Eeyore at his press conferences.  

Eeyore ate dicks?

[CooterBrown 18006]

I mean, yeah. It's a silly analogy for many reasons if you really break it down. Was more going after the "living in fear" idea. I don't see playing football as much of a blip on the overall covid radar. I think it would be similar to what the MLB has done.

Really what it comes down to is answering the question “am I okay with strangers occasionally dying to provide me entertainment?”

If you’re okay with answering yes, then full speed ahead.

[Xcalibur 546]

10 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Really what it comes down to is answering the question “am I okay with strangers occasionally dying to provide me entertainment?”

If you’re okay with answering yes, then full speed ahead.

How is this any different from being a football fan in a non covid world?

[MirrOlure 14760]

Excellent news. So what are the long term after effects for someone who has contracted the virus but was asymptomatic?

We don’t know for sure with 100% certainty what each and every negative effect it has on each and every person in the world who tested positive so we all need to stay home and not go anywhere until that is figured out.

[ChiTownDoc 21152]

We’ve all seen shitty crowds but it will be funny seeing them spread out as far out as the nose bleeds.  

[ChiTownDoc 21152]

57 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

We don’t know for sure with 100% certainty what each and every negative effect it has on each and every person in the world who tested positive so we all need to stay home and not go anywhere until that is figured out.

Yeah.  Don’t let anyone out and do anything is as dumb as let’s pretend there’s no virus at all.  My hesitation is these are amateur athletes that people are making a lot of money on.  

But here at the home of B1G headquarters every single hospital in the city has had its C19 unit closed for months now and patios are jam packed with people boozing.  I guessed the virus is weaker in summer, as in it still spreads but hospitalizations would be way down.  That educated guess seems to be correct but you don’t hear much about that on any news channel, left or right.  

[Knighthawk 284]

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

Really what it comes down to is answering the question “am I okay with strangers occasionally dying to provide me entertainment?”

If you’re okay with answering yes, then full speed ahead.

Well I missed the games on Thursday night.  Those selfish bastards playing And watching their foosball.  Does anyone happen to have the death count for players and coaches from those games?  
 

Thoughts and prayers to the fallen.  

[ruitxn 296]

46 minutes ago, Knighthawk said:

Well I missed the games on Thursday night.  Those selfish bastards playing And watching their foosball.  Does anyone happen to have the death count for players and coaches from those games?  
 

Thoughts and prayers to the fallen.  

You just don’t get it do you buddy.  This just isn’t about damn football.  Your  cavalier attitude and others like you regarding a damn serious health crisis in our country is a major reason we are projected to have over 400,000 deaths in this country by the end of 2020.  You probably don’t believe this either.  I hope you send 400,000 thoughts and prayers to the families losing loved ones and I sincerely hope your family as well as mine aren’t touched.  I understand the hoopla over athletics college and pro.  More than anything, I wish more individuals realized lives WILL Be SAVED if our country would make wise educated choices concerning public activities until we have a valid vaccine.

[LTbear 4168]

2 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

Really what it comes down to is answering the question “am I okay with strangers occasionally dying to provide me entertainment?”

If you’re okay with answering yes, then full speed ahead.

Ah, so I see you're not a fan of sports at all, since this post sets a standard that most major sports fail to some degree or another, especially football.

Or maybe you're one of those types who doesn't understand that you look like a whiny bitch who can't come to a conversation with logic and therefore has to rely on hyperbolic statements and guilt tripping. 

[LTbear 4168]

The virus is a damn serious matter. But goddamn if everything doesn't have to be hyperbolic and political on both ends of every conversation nowadays. 

[EuroHorn 3260]

Now herbie is crying 

[Royalfan5 2354]

I picked up Chik-Fil-A for lunch here in Lincoln, and they were fully invested in pretending it was a Nebraska game day with music and decorations and everything. It was one of the saddest things I’ve seen as part of this whole deal 

[Sejjr 3246]

3 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yeah.  Don’t let anyone out and do anything is as dumb as let’s pretend there’s no virus at all.  My hesitation is these are amateur athletes that people are making a lot of money on.  

But here at the home of B1G headquarters every single hospital in the city has had its C19 unit closed for months now and patios are jam packed with people boozing.  I guessed the virus is weaker in summer, as in it still spreads but hospitalizations would be way down.  That educated guess seems to be correct but you don’t hear much about that on any news channel, left or right.  

There have been plenty of discussions on seasonality of COVID. You are far from alone in your educated guess. 

[TonyTexas 10510]

 

[Doc Reeves 6434]

Woof

[Valmy77 13226]

2 hours ago, LTbear said:

The virus is a damn serious matter. But goddamn if everything doesn't have to be hyperbolic and political on both ends of every conversation nowadays. 

No shit. No matter how seemingly non-political something is it eventually becomes partisan. I am looking forward to my political beliefs dictating what laundry detergent I use and whether I shower in the morning or at night.

[4th&Five 41525]

12 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

This has always been what the “nobody is dropping dead” crowd seems to miss. Covid running rampant on college campuses it what’s going to cost us games. It already has. There will be a ton of cancellations. 

[HornsOverIthaca 2333]

4 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

No shit. No matter how seemingly non-political something is it eventually becomes partisan. I am looking forward to my political beliefs dictating what laundry detergent I use and whether I shower in the morning or at night.

You know some laundry detergents are better for the "whites".  Yup.

[notre dame joe 187]

9 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

This has always been what the “nobody is dropping dead” crowd seems to miss. Covid running rampant on college campuses it what’s going to cost us games. It already has. There will be a ton of cancellations. 

And those cancellations will do nothing to stop the covid spread on college campuses.  

[4th&Five 41525]

Fine. The thread is about CFB season in danger. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

1 hour ago, Sejjr said:

There have been plenty of discussions on seasonality of COVID. You are far from alone in your educated guess. 

Not so many I have seen have discussed a weaker version -- what I'd seen was that the virus would be more scarce and so would not spread as much. 

[Royalfan5 2354]

Since the season is fucked anyway, I’d like to suggest switching to 6-man for the season to limit cancellation potential and to really get weird with it 

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

34 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

This has always been what the “nobody is dropping dead” crowd seems to miss. Covid running rampant on college campuses it what’s going to cost us games. It already has. There will be a ton of cancellations. 

This is terrible. What happens after it “runs rampant”? Is that when they die?