Denis Villeneuve's Dune

[UT_OB1 2,217]

6 hours ago, futureman said:

link?

It’s in his introduction to Eye

[ztejas 43,411]

9 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

Not really. Straight out of his mouth. 
 

 

Blaming JFK for Vietnam is certainly a take.

I mean - didn't the CIA kill him because he was "soft" on communism? (If you believe in that sort of thing)

Edited April 28 by ztejas

[futureman 22,444]

LHO killed him. 

[Rimbo 25,911]

On 4/26/2024 at 7:40 PM, ztejas said:

Something I was wondering about is the Lisan Al-Gaib being an actual prophecy/fatalistic type thing or being more manufactured. I'm assuming it's sort of supposed to be open for interpretation and like a crossing of timelines/time is cyclical/an illusion type deal. 

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It's not really open to interpretation: The prophecy is absolutely manufactured, and yet Paul is very much the person the prophecy makes him out to be.

BUT... one of the key aspects of the story is that Jessica was supposed to have a daughter, but she fell in love with Duke Atreides and gave him a son. And this messed up the plan. So Paul ends up being the Kwisatz Haderach, but not the one they planned, and outside of their control.

 

[Rimbo 25,911]

On 4/27/2024 at 5:23 AM, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

I mean, I guess if you like chubby chicks with no boobs, butt and an average face, then yeah. 

 

Yes. I do like this.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21,872]

11 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

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It's not really open to interpretation: The prophecy is absolutely manufactured, and yet Paul is very much the person the prophecy makes him out to be.

BUT... one of the key aspects of the story is that Jessica was supposed to have a daughter, but she fell in love with Duke Atreides and gave him a son. And this messed up the plan. So Paul ends up being the Kwisatz Haderach, but not the one they planned, and outside of their control.

 

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The Bene Gesserit plan was to breed the daughter that Jessica was supposed to have with a Harkonen

 

[hobbes2702 13,029]

On 4/27/2024 at 7:23 AM, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

I mean, I guess if you like chubby chicks with no boobs, butt and an average face, then yeah. 

One of the worst opinions ever posted on this website 

[Rimbo 25,911]

23 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

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The Bene Gesserit plan was to breed the daughter that Jessica was supposed to have with a Harkonen

 

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ACKshually, the plan was for Jessica's daughter to be the mother of the Kwisatz Haderach, a boy who would be the first man with Mother Superior's ability to see all the past AND the future.

 

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5 hours ago, Rimbo said:

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ACKshually, the plan was for Jessica's daughter to be the mother of the Kwisatz Haderach, a boy who would be the first man with Mother Superior's ability to see all the past AND the future.

 

Mother Superior jumped the gun

[ztejas 43,411]

5 hours ago, Rimbo said:

 

Yes. I do like this.

Yeah. She's just sexy and it boosts her attractiveness in my book. A bit like ScarJo.

Also she got very naked in Oppenheimer.

Edited April 28 by ztejas

[Eskimohorn 5,630]

Yeah. She's just sexy and it boosts her attractiveness in my book. A bit like ScarJo.
Also she got very naked in Oppenheimer.

She got naked in Imax. Her sweaty body left an impression. Most importantly, she was totally convincing as a leftwing pinko academic of that time period.

[LCHorn 2,612]

43 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah. She's just sexy and it boosts her attractiveness in my book. A bit like ScarJo.

Also she got very naked in Oppenheimer.

I don’t personally find her all that attractive but I think she’s got more charisma than any other actress under 30.  I kind of feel the same way about Chalamet, too.  

[Levi 2,585]

I think we might be past using spoilers. 

[billfromlaketravis 11,447]

I have some Pugh fatigue, but she’s more than fine as Irulan.

Excited to see Anya Taylor-Joy as Alia in Messiah. Also excited to get Duncan Idaho back. 
 

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I guess the next giant hurdle for DV is the scene where Paul loses his eyes. 
 

Messiah is a lot of people talking in rooms. DV hates dialogue… so it’ll be interesting. 

 

[Captainant 27,631]

1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Excited to see Anya Taylor-Joy as Alia in Messiah. Also excited to get Duncan Idaho back. 

[ztejas 43,411]

1 hour ago, Levi said:

I think we might be past using spoilers. 

They're using spoilers for the rest of the story, g.

[Levi 2,585]

18 minutes ago, ztejas said:

They're using spoilers for the rest of the story, g.

For the Messiah aspects sure but the BG stuff being discussed is pretty much in Dune parts 1&2. Adding more context from the book doesn’t spoil much even if you want to read it. In my opinion if you enter a movie thread close to 2 months post release then it should be a given there will be spoilers/discussion about the film. 

[Buzzrock 14,902]

I have some Pugh fatigue, but she’s more than fine as Irulan.
Excited to see Anya Taylor-Joy as Alia in Messiah. Also excited to get Duncan Idaho back. 
 
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I guess the next giant hurdle for DV is the scene where Paul loses his eyes. 
 
Messiah is a lot of people talking in rooms. DV hates dialogue… so it’ll be interesting. 

 

Gah. Ok that’s a big spoiler for the next movie. Maybe we need a thread just for that one?

[billfromlaketravis 11,447]

My bad on the Duncan spoiler. I thought Momoa addressed it in a previous interview. 

[Rimbo 25,911]

2 hours ago, Levi said:

I think we might be past using spoilers. 

Eh, better safe than sorry.

[Buzzrock 14,902]

My bad on the Duncan spoiler. I thought Momoa addressed it in a previous interview. 

I thought I could click your spoiler since I read Dune and I’ve seen both movies. I wasn’t expecting a spoiler for Messiah.

[Sam Lin 3,550]

I'd say we should put a 

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Spoiler within a

Spoiler

Spoiler,

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But this isn't the Inception thread.

 

 

 

[Levi 2,585]

1 minute ago, Sam Lin said:

I'd say we should put a 

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But this isn't the Inception thread.

 

 

 

No, just plans within plans within plans. 

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On 4/28/2024 at 12:35 PM, hobbes2702 said:

One of the worst opinions ever posted on this website 

Maybe? All I'm sayin is that if Florence Pugh and Rebecca Ferguson are at a party, you can have Pugh.  No problem, my friend. 

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[kingkoopa6 8,345]

23 hours ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

Maybe? All I'm sayin is that if Florence Pugh and Rebecca Ferguson are at a party, you can have Pugh.  No problem, my friend. 

Dibs on fighting with my family Pugh. 
 

 

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[Sam Lin 3,550]

On 4/26/2024 at 7:40 PM, ztejas said:

Something I was wondering about is the Lisan Al-Gaib being an actual prophecy/fatalistic type thing or being more manufactured. I'm assuming it's sort of supposed to be open for interpretation and like a crossing of timelines/time is cyclical/an illusion type deal. 

Just saw this on a Dune FB group (yeah I'm a nerd), it clips all the book lines talking about the Missionaria Protectiva and their practice of seeding prophecies all over. Makes it very clear that this was just one prophecy out of a catalog and the fact that Paul happened to land in a place seeded for Him (Kwizatz Haderach Him) was a hugely fortuitous coincidence.

Spoiler

 

[Sam Lin 3,550]

Decent amount of production effort.

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[mchookem 16,321]

ngl...i would totally be into that^ lol

[NaTeWHO 852]

Dune 2 out on Max at 12:01 am PT tonight.

[Rimbo 25,911]

On 4/30/2024 at 8:15 AM, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

Maybe? All I'm sayin is that if Florence Pugh and Rebecca Ferguson are at a party, you can have Pugh.  No problem, my friend. 

Rebecca Ferguson is like @Nicole44 Lite anyhow

[kingkoopa6 8,345]

 Time for another go or three…LFG!

[Buzzrock 14,902]

Maybe? All I'm sayin is that if Florence Pugh and Rebecca Ferguson are at a party, you can have Pugh.  No problem, my friend. 

[huge 3,793]

What would be outstanding is if we could get Denis to direct a SW movie.

[Sam Lin 3,550]

I actually want to see a Michael Bay SW movie more. Not because it'd be good.

[Buzzrock 14,902]

Sorry for the bookfag bump but I just finished reading Dune: Messiah. That could be a really cool movie, and I hope they don’t make the Hobbit mistake and try to break it up into two movies (it’s half the length of Dune). 
 

I had heard the books fall off in quality: are any of the rest worth reading? I kinda liked how this one ended. 

[hornian 5,210]

9 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Sorry for the bookfag bump but I just finished reading Dune: Messiah. That could be a really cool movie, and I hope they don’t make the Hobbit mistake and try to break it up into two movies (it’s half the length of Dune). 
 

I had heard the books fall off in quality: are any of the rest worth reading? I kinda liked how this one ended. 

I read all of them this year. 

The first three are a trilogy, and work well together. 

The 4th is pretty much a bridge to the last planned trilogy. It's very heavy on philosophy, in a much different way. A lot of folks think it's the best book of the series, but I'm not sure I agree with that. I like my science fiction a little less philosophical, I guess. 

The last two are good, if much different. I wound up liking them a lot, but they are set in an almost entirely different universe than the first trilogy (it's the same universe, but many thousands of years in the future). There's some weird sexual undertones to them, but the sci-fi world building is off the charts. You can tell it was set up for a third book to finish it off, but Frank died. 

I beleive his kid and another author "finished" the series, but I haven't/don't plan to read those. 

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On 6/14/2024 at 9:24 PM, Sam Lin said:

I actually want to see a Michael Bay SW movie more. Not because it'd be good.

We already got that.

[billfromlaketravis 11,447]

16 minutes ago, hornian said:

I read all of them this year. 

The first three are a trilogy, and work well together. 

The 4th is pretty much a bridge to the last planned trilogy. It's very heavy on philosophy, in a much different way. A lot of folks think it's the best book of the series, but I'm not sure I agree with that. I like my science fiction a little less philosophical, I guess. 

The last two are good, if much different. I wound up liking them a lot, but they are set in an almost entirely different universe than the first trilogy (it's the same universe, but many thousands of years in the future). There's some weird sexual undertones to them, but the sci-fi world building is off the charts. You can tell it was set up for a third book to finish it off, but Frank died. 

I beleive his kid and another author "finished" the series, but I haven't/don't plan to read those. 

God Emperor legitimately sucks. I’ve started and stopped it at least 3 times. 

[futureman 22,444]

1 hour ago, hornian said:

There's some weird sexual undertones to them,

oh now that sounds fun.  what kind of stuff are we talkin about??

details?

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[ztejas 43,411]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

Sorry for the bookfag bump but I just finished reading Dune: Messiah. That could be a really cool movie, and I hope they don’t make the Hobbit mistake and try to break it up into two movies (it’s half the length of Dune). 
 

I had heard the books fall off in quality: are any of the rest worth reading? I kinda liked how this one ended. 

I thought DV's plan was 3 movies with the first 2 being Dune and the 3rd wrapping it up with Messiah. 

[futureman 22,444]

12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I thought DV's plan was 3 movies with the first 2 being Dune and the 3rd wrapping it up with Messiah. 

I also heard this from a reliable source.

 

source: the internet.

[ztejas 43,411]

2 minutes ago, futureman said:

source: the internet.

You can't trust those assholes 

[kingkoopa6 8,345]

I thought she was attractive. But didn’t know she was fine fine  

rewatching movie again, and sad to see her go out. But taking out  9 men with a single blade  🔥