2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

The only reason Biden is the nominee is because Trump is president. That’s it, that was his entire reason for running.  He’s a one man emergency tourniquet and the mess he will have to clean up seems beyond his capabilities but at least he appears to acknowledge that too.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Ghost of LL 15531]

29 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

It wasn't so much humility although that's part of it.  It's empathy and understanding because he's recovered from substantial loss.  Stewart's theory is Biden may be what the country needs coming off such a destructive and calamitous personality as Trump is someone who can heal the nation or start to mend the divisions of the country.  The country needs a healer.  Is it stilted?  Maybe but he was transparent in saying Biden wasn't his first choice on policy.  Biden's not really a policy or revolutionary driving a movement, that was Bernie or even Warren.  He's a vanilla corporatist Dem who's best attributes are he still gives a shit and seems to know what he doesn't know.

 

I think "a vanilla corporatist Dem" misstates it somewhat.  Joe Biden is, and has always been, a generic Democrat.  And that's a feature, not a bug.  He has consistently put himself in the middle of where the party is, ideologically.  It may be one of his great talents as a politician--sensing where the middle of the Democratic road is and putting himself squarely there.

For that reason, I don't think progressives ought to be too worried about a Biden presidency.  The middle of the Democratic road right now is left of where it was under Obama and faaar left of where it was under Clinton.  And that's where Biden is going to govern from.

[Huckleberry 32985]

2 hours ago, BigHorn'13 said:

Just making an observation as someone who doesn't vote either party. Not trying to talk bad about y'all's boy.

lulz

"I just don't see enthusiasm for Biden. This doesn't look good for Democrats because they don't actually care for Biden."

"Here's why you're wrong."

"Stop being so defensive about your boy! You guys are just defending him because you care about him too much!"

[Longhorn_Fan68 33874]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I think "a vanilla corporatist Dem" misstates it somewhat.  Joe Biden is, and has always been, a generic Democrat.  And that's a feature, not a bug.  He has consistently put himself in the middle of where the party is, ideologically.  It may be one of his great talents as a politician--sensing where the middle of the Democratic road is and putting himself squarely there.

For that reason, I don't think progressives ought to be too worried about a Biden presidency.  The middle of the Democratic road right now is left of where it was under Obama and faaar left of where it was under Clinton.  And that's where Biden is going to govern from.

I agree with that. while the party hasn't moved as left as I personally would want it (M4A, voting rights, etc), there's too much traction gained by progressives and the Democratic party is (I think) smart enough to realize that the new and next generations are going to veer more left. if they don't want to become the left version of the GOP (read: obsolete), they will need to veer more left over time

[TexasEd 8067]

On 6/28/2020 at 7:06 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

"Voting in person is safer than voting by mail".

 

By safer I mean that Russia has hacked the voting machines in DT's favor and we can't fake the mail-in ballots as easily.

 

[Nope 3114]

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45691]

45 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The only reason Biden is the nominee is because Trump is president. That’s it, that was his entire reason for running.  He’s a one man emergency tourniquet and the mess he will have to clean up seems beyond his capabilities but at least he appears to acknowledge that too.

To be fair, it's beyond the capabilities of any one candidate.  It's going to take a really talented team to get us un-fucked.  I do think Biden will put together a fantastic team though.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

29 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

don't think progressives ought to be too worried about a Biden presidency.

The democratic base is progressives. The Black voters that got Biden the nomination are not moderate or right leaning dems.  The problem is the Republican Party is so crazy right wing that democrats feel like they have to run candidates already compromised to win elections.  And Bernie’s insurgency campaigns didn’t do a whole lot of favors in the short term for progressives because they now get ostracized by establishment dems as part of that leftist/socialist group when in reality they just want some progress away from our military/police/prison for profit state. 

[Ghost of LL 15531]

13 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The democratic base is progressives. The Black voters that got Biden the nomination are not moderate or right leaning dems.  The problem is the Republican Party is so crazy right wing that democrats feel like they have to run candidates already compromised to win elections.  And Bernie’s insurgency campaigns didn’t do a whole lot of favors in the short term for progressives because they now get ostracized by establishment dems as part of that leftist/socialist group when in reality they just want some progress away from our military/police/prison for profit state. 

I think you misunderestimate just how conservative a lot of Black voters are.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33874]

did you just make up a word there, counselor?

[gmr548 16580]

misunderestimate

Wut

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

16 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I think you misunderestimate just how conservative a lot of Black voters are.

Okay, even if that’s true, progressive policy ideas like a wealth tax, anti-corruption legislation, healthcare policy, criminal justice reform, ending prisons for profit, addressing gun violence, expanding public education, eliminating student loan debt, and dealing with climate change are wildly popular ideas within the Democratic Party and the general population at large. These are progressive ideas.

Progressive activists don’t feel like they have a seat at the table with candidates like Biden.  They feel like the Bloombergs and Bezos interests come first and the government only works for them, they are anti-progressive democrats when it comes to legislation and governing.  

I read a ton of polling data and Black voters are more conservative on some of the cultural issues but I wouldn’t describe them as conservative. 

[TexasEd 8067]

On 6/29/2020 at 1:15 PM, Pancho said:

Just saw my first Biden attack ad by the trump campaign. 

Not sure if this was a national buy or what, but if you’re running attack ads—ATTACK ADS—against Biden in Texas? They know they are in trouble. 

I saw one last Wednesday in South Padre Island during the local news

[Ghost of LL 15531]

47 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

did you just make up a word there, counselor?

 

38 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Wut

 

I didn't make it up.  The greatest Republican president of the 21st Century made it up.

I can't believe y'all forgot my favorite Bushism so quickly.

[SubliminalHorn 6806]

11 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

 

I didn't make it up.  The greatest Republican president of the 21st Century made it up.

I can't believe y'all forgot my favorite Bushism so quickly.

There are just so many. Strategery, nucular, fool me once...

[TwiceHorn 31495]

I hope this is the electoral equivalent of putting Trump on a rocket, no whiskey, no hash browns, and firing it into the sun.

Edited June 30, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Huckleberry 32985]

I thought strategery was a Will Ferrell word made up while playing GWB.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

8 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

Well especially when you consider they actually made the effort to check "uncommitted" and send back the ballot.

SILENT MAJORITY!!!

Lol

[JimmyJames 12271]

9 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

If trump is losing Missouri the election will be a Reagan-Mondale type rout.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

5 hours ago, BigHorn'13 said:

Just making an observation as someone who doesn't vote either party. Not trying to talk bad about y'all's boy...

Meh same thing happened in reverse last cycle.

Don't kid yourself into thinking that those 62 million were enthusiastic about Trump. A ton of them were down with his racism and pussy grabbing, but I bet a majority were more enthusiastic about voting against Hillary.

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The only reason Biden is the nominee is because Trump is president. That’s it, that was his entire reason for running.  He’s a one man emergency tourniquet and the mess he will have to clean up seems beyond his capabilities but at least he appears to acknowledge that too.

And?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

11 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

And?

I guess my point was for anyone that wants to rehash the primary, it has to start with Trump in the room and collective PTSD from 2016.  
 

Some interesting polling data regarding independents and moderates.  Biden voters that are independents are insanely (73%) voting AGAINST Trump instead of FOR Biden.  That’s one of those numbers that tells me Trump is turbofucked considering the lead Biden has right now with independents.  Looks like a similar situation with moderates.

 

Edited June 30, 2020 by Hugo Stiglitz

[TwiceHorn 31495]

34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I hope this is the electoral equivalent of putting Trump on a rocket, no whiskey, no hash browns, and firing it into the sun.

And nucular goes back to Eisenhower.  Clinton pronounced it more that way than nuclear.

I had forgotten and attributed strategery to GWB, too.  Misunderestimated is great.  It's a little more than underestimated.  Maybe misunderstood, too.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

3 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

yeah, it was the same remarks. he repeated them to whoopi. it seemed very much that he was working backward from needing to say joe is the guy and looking for the reason why.  seemed a little obvious that he was trying to get positive momentum for joe instead of just negative momentum for donald, and I thought it was a little transparent.

I too long for the nuance of the lock her up chants of 2016

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I guess my point was for anyone that wants to rehash the primary, it has to start with Trump in the room and collective PTSD from 2016.  
 

Some interesting polling data regarding independents and moderates.  Biden voters that are independents are insanely (73%) voting AGAINST Trump instead of FOR Biden.  That’s one of those numbers that tells me Trump is turbofucked because Trump has completely lost the independents and they ain’t coming back. Looks like a similar situation with moderates.

 

Yep. Independents hated Hillary, right or wrong, and therefore broke for trump. Biden is the opposite. Independents like him. Its why he was always the best to defeat trump.

[MirrOlure 14787]

So...Biden’s speech today was like watching Courso on Game Day the last two years. Seriously....I think he’s had at least one stroke.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Yep. Independents hated Hillary, right or wrong, and therefore broke for trump. Biden is the opposite. Independents like him. Its why he was always the best to defeat trump.

The data indicates they hate Biden less than Trump, not that they like Biden.

Edited July 1, 2020 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Bama Chick 28596]

Democrats talking to Progressives: "Who cares if the policies aren't what you want?!?!? The important thing is to get this administration out of Washington!!!"
Democrats talking to Never Trump Republicans: "Trump is just one man, fuck you!!! Policies are what matter, not just getting one man out of office!!!"

Who said that?

I’m just tired of the over the top praise these guys are getting for, ya know, just doing the right thing for once.

The Lincoln Project folks have never ever acknowledged the role they played for years that got us Trump.

It’s just another bunch of grifters.

After November if Trump is defeated they’ll use all that money from Democrats to promote their brand of Republicanism.

Policy DOES matter. Democrat’s number one priority should be getting Trump out of office. Being held hostage to purity tests from the left doesn’t advance that priority. And being beholden to Never Trumpers doesn’t either.

And let’s be honest, Never Trumpers have no home right now - the Rick Wilson’s of the world can’t make a living in the Republican Party until Trump is done.

I mean, Steve Schmidt gave us Sarah Palin and just last year was Chief Strategist for Howard Fucking Schultz!

I welcome their efforts to help extinguish the inferno they helped create but after the fire is out I have no interest in letting them hang around to help with the rebuild.

This sums it up pretty well.

Rick Wilson Really Bummed All Those Republicans He Helped Elect Are Traitors

Rick Wilson is a GOP political strategist who's enjoying a new career offering his insight to moderate Democrats. They love to retweet him (and Steve Schmidt and Tom Nichols and Max Boot AND Bill Kristol) because it shows they're open to a broad range of dumb opinions. If Democrats elected a president as uniquely awful as Donald Trump and the ones who didn't play ball were cast out of the mad king's court, Republicans would let the poor bastards starve in obscurity. Wilson is lucky Democrats are so forgiving and will snatch up copies of his upcoming book, Running Against the Devil: The Plot to Save America From Trump — and Democrats From Themselves. When NeverTrump Republicans say they want to save Democrats from "themselves," their plan is to turn us into less embarrassing Republicans. It's Extreme Makeover: Jack Kemp Edition.

Wilson has a piece this week in Rolling Stone -- how radical! -- and he laments how Donald Trump has coarsened our political discourse. Why, the president and his supporters call anyone who oppose them "traitors." That ain't no way to govern! In the glorious pre-Trump era, Jimmy Stewarts of all political persuasions went to Washington every day and crossed the aisle without rancor.

WILSON: America once used the words "treason" and "traitors" only in cases of actual betrayal of our nation's most vital secrets or interests.

Be honest: The words “traitor" and “treason" don't have the sting they once had; they've been devalued from mis- and over-use by this president. For Donald Trump, any opposition, either personal, ideological, or political is treason. Anyone who stands in his path betrays the Great Leader. Anyone who fails to take the knee is a traitor.
No, Rick Wilson, Donald Trump didn't build that. "America" maybe was conservative in its rhetoric, but actual conservatives took a more liberal approach to character assassination. Newt Gingrich pioneered the "othering" of Democrats in the early 1990s. He released a memo with a thesaurus-full of inflammatory words to describe liberals: "sick, pathetic, lie, anti-flag, traitors, radical, corrupt." Wilson himself, while working for John McCain's 2008 campaign, created attack ads tying Obama to his former pastor Jeremiah Wright, who he'd already denounced by this point. The ads claimed Wright preached "hate" about America that Obama could "believe in." This was just the start of Republicans calling Obama a Benedict Arnold in blackface.

A headline for a 2013 David Horowitz National Review article was literally "How Obama Betrayed America." When Obama prohibited federal contractors from discriminating against transgender Americans, Maggie Gallagher called the Republicans who supported the move "traitors." Wilson meanwhile is behaving as if he's shocked to discover that the Republican Party is no good.

WILSON: There are elected officials who have made the decision to protect a corrupt president by embracing conspiracy theories, refusing to acknowledge sworn testimony of career foreign-service officials, and piling on to Trump's attack of democratic institutions.
That's a shame, but know-nothing conservatism traces back decades. Trump didn't achieve this himself. He's accomplished nothing on his own. Stephen Colbert lampooned "truthiness," the Bush-era concept that what a conservative felt was true mattered more than what a liberal bothered to prove was true. Fox News and Republicans encouraged Americans for years to reject climate change science, and now the current president thinks the whole thing's a hoax.

WILSON: The traitors talk a good game, hands over their withered hearts, about supporting the Constitution, but they're happy to ignore it when it suits their purposes.

That sounds a lot like the Patriot Act.

WILSON: The traitors believe the executive branch is superior to all others and unaccountable under the law.
This is where the attacks against Trump's critics are consistent with how Republicans treated critics of George W. Bush. If you took issue with Bush's invasion of random countries, you didn't support the troops. A political party whose members rename french fries "freedom fries" out of childish pique long ago proved it was dumb enough for Trump to "hijack."

Wilson has stated that when crafting an attack ad, you go after an opponent's strengths, not their weaknesses. (It's the Karl Rove model and it works!) There's no better or more repulsive example than the smear campaign Wilson directed against former Georgia Senator Max Cleland, who lost an arm and both legs at 25 while serving in Vietnam. Wilson's ads for Republican candidate Saxby Chambliss implied that Cleland's disagreements with Bush over funding for the Department of Homeland Security proved he was pen pals with Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. The ad worked and Cleland was the last Democrat elected to the Senate from Georgia.

Let's not ever forget that Wilson has spent most of his career helping remove from office actual patriots. He most recently produced ads that were instrumental in helping Republicans reclaim the Senate in 2014. The ads didn't call anyone traitors but they helped empower the people who Wilson (correctly) believes have betrayed the "oath they serve and the security of this country." It's fine if Wilson wants to join the angry villagers with the pitchforks and torches, but he should take responsibility for creating the Frankenstein monster in the first place. But he never will. Rick Wilson and other Never Trumpers aren't upset that Republicans suddenly turned bad. They're upset that Republicans have turned on them.

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[4th&Five 41558]

3 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

So...Biden’s speech today was like watching Courso on Game Day the last two years. Seriously....I think he’s had at least one stroke.

[MirrOlure 14787]

The dude can’t deliver a scripted speech to a dozen people in a high school gym without stammering and slurring. Not saying it matters. Nobody gives a shit about either candidate other than hoping the other guy loses.

But the Biden/Lee Corso comparison holds water. No denying that.

[Bama Chick 28596]

So...Biden’s speech today was like watching Courso on Game Day the last two years. Seriously....I think he’s had at least one stroke.

Oh my god fuck off with this nonsense.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

23 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Policy DOES matter. Democrat’s number one priority should be getting Trump out of office. Being held hostage to purity tests from the left doesn’t advance that priority. 

Some people think the best way to beat Trump is with good ideas, also known as policies that sell.  Give voters a reason to come out other than dethroning Trump.  

Democrats running a negative partisanship campaign against Trump might work because Trump has no ideas himself but wouldn’t it be cool if Biden had a signature idea also to beat Trump’s ass?  It seems like a huge missed opportunity IMO.

Edited July 1, 2020 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Bama Chick 28596]

The dude can’t deliver a scripted speech to a dozen people in a high school gym without stammering and slurring. Not saying it matters. Nobody gives a shit about either candidate other than hoping the other guy loses.

But the Biden/Lee Corso comparison holds water. No denying that.

[4th&Five 41558]

16 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

The dude can’t deliver a scripted speech to a dozen people in a high school gym without stammering and slurring. Not saying it matters. Nobody gives a shit about either candidate other than hoping the other guy loses.

But the Biden/Lee Corso comparison holds water. No denying that.

[Kilgorehorn 308]

17 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

The dude can’t deliver a scripted speech to a dozen people in a high school gym without stammering and slurring. Not saying it matters. Nobody gives a shit about either candidate other than hoping the other guy loses.

You do realize that Biden has had a problem with stuttering his whole life.

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

5 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I agree, Joe, even at his best, isn't Obama or even Bill on the campaign trail, but...... 

When you're running against probably the worst President in modern history, maybe being sleepy is enough.  Trump fatigue is real for independents and the passionate dislike for him on the Dem side is also pretty real and sustained.

Public to Trump:  You're an unhinged lunatic.

Trump:  But Joe is sleepy!

[Incredulity 11675]

“Extreme Makeover: Jack Kemp Edition” is fucking hilarious.

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

5 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Joe could die the week before the election and I would still stand in a crowd full of COVID to vote for him.  Anything to get Trump out of there. 

We need to cryogenically freeze Joe and RBG until November.  He doesn't need to do a fucking thing, except stay alive.  

[Huckleberry 32985]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

Who said that?

The column that Hugo posted that I quoted in my post.

[SydneyCarton 48108]

No one is excited about Biden. But I’m excited he can put together the right cabinet and staff to really do some visionary things IF a blue wave turns the senate and keeps the house. Biden will just listen to experts and chart a path. That’s something to howl for, and hope hasn’t been around in about 3 or so years. 

[SydneyCarton 48108]

5 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Jon Stewart is doing this press blitz for his new movie and does a stump speech for Biden.  The theme is Biden's tragic past has given him humility, so he is on board.  It's a reach.

I liked it. 

[Texaspython 231]

9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

No one is excited about Biden. But I’m excited he can put together the right cabinet and staff to really do some visionary things IF a blue wave turns the senate and keeps the house. Biden will just listen to experts and chart a path. That’s something to howl for, and hope hasn’t been around in about 3 or so years. 

This, he isn’t a transformative political figure from a rhetorical or style sense. However, I bet he gets far more legislative victories. That is reason enough to go all in for Joe. Besides, you have to be slightly emotionally unstable to actively dislike Joe.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

1 hour ago, MirrOlure said:

The dude can’t deliver a scripted speech to a dozen people in a high school gym without stammering and slurring. Not saying it matters. Nobody gives a shit about either candidate other than hoping the other guy loses.

But the Biden/Lee Corso comparison holds water. No denying that.

Biden looks great compared to the stroke victim we all saw need two hands to drink water and shuffle down a ramp at West Point a couple of weeks ago.

[4th&Five 41558]

I liked Biden in ‘08 more than Obama even though I knew he didn’t have a chance. I’m not pumped 12 years later about him being president but I’ll celebrate like Texas won a NC to have Dotard out of there. 

[BradInATX 9208]

36 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

No one is excited about Biden. But I’m excited he can put together the right cabinet and staff to really do some visionary things IF a blue wave turns the senate and keeps the house. Biden will just listen to experts and chart a path. That’s something to howl for, and hope hasn’t been around in about 3 or so years. 

Exactly how I feel, verbatim.

He'll have a competent staff. He will let the experts be experts and won't politicize things that, for the greater good, should not be politicized (IE the CDC). He will listen to people. He will read his fucking daily briefings even if they don't mention his name enough.

Good enough for me.

[gmr548 16580]

The dude can’t deliver a scripted speech to a dozen people in a high school gym without stammering and slurring. Not saying it matters. Nobody gives a shit about either candidate other than hoping the other guy loses.

But the Biden/Lee Corso comparison holds water. No denying that.

To stick with the college football analogy, Trump is president aggy. So the choice becomes very easy.

[Brandywine 1316]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

 

This needs to be the next Lincoln Project ad. 

[Brandywine 1316]

11 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Exactly how I feel, verbatim.

He'll have a competent staff. He will let the experts be experts and won't politicize things that, for the greater good, should not be politicized (IE the CDC). He will listen to people. He will read his fucking daily briefings even if they don't mention his name enough.

Good enough for me.

If Biden just stays off Twitter and does the job the American people have asked to do that would be a plus. Since day one all Trump has done is try and get reelected because he clearly doesn't know how to do his job. 

[cactusflinthead 27601]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Who said that?

I’m just tired of the over the top praise these guys are getting for, ya know, just doing the right thing for once.

The Lincoln Project folks have never ever acknowledged the role they played for years that got us Trump.

It’s just another bunch of grifters.

After November if Trump is defeated they’ll use all that money from Democrats to promote their brand of Republicanism.

Policy DOES matter. Democrat’s number one priority should be getting Trump out of office. Being held hostage to purity tests from the left doesn’t advance that priority. And being beholden to Never Trumpers doesn’t either.

And let’s be honest, Never Trumpers have no home right now - the Rick Wilson’s of the world can’t make a living in the Republican Party until Trump is done.

I mean, Steve Schmidt gave us Sarah Palin and just last year was Chief Strategist for Howard Fucking Schultz!

I welcome their efforts to help extinguish the inferno they helped create but after the fire is out I have no interest in letting them hang around to help with the rebuild.

This sums it up pretty well.




Enjoy their work. Share their videos. But don’t give them money and don’t ever forget what they really are.

I'll send them money after they answer this quiz. I've said it was 5 questions, it's a bit more than that. Charles P. Pierce's quiz for Never Trumpers. 

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/04/15/id-offer-sanity-quiz-all-nevertrump-conservatives

 

Originally published in Esquire 

1) Many of you have expressed your dismay at how Sinclair Broadcasting forced its local anchors to read a canned statement about the curse of “fake news,” divining, correctly, that this was the company’s way of delegitimizing serious coverage of the many and varied corruptions of the current administration*. In 2004, when Sinclair forced its local stations to run a meretricious fake documentary  slandering John Kerry’s service in Vietnam, were you as offended as you are today? Were you public with your disapproval? Did you take your concerns to upper echelons in the Bush campaign and the Bush White House? To whom did you take them?

2) Please provide an example of how you pushed back against the entire Swift Boating of Kerry? Did any of you upbraid the people who were peddling Purple Heart Band-Aids at the 2004 Republican Convention?

3) Please explain in detail how you, because of your deep concern for political civility and an open marketplace of ideas, pushed back against the vicious attacks by Bush administration officials, and conservative journalists, who were critical of Americans who doubted the phony case for the invasion of Iraq. Please explain Andrew Sullivan’s famous “Fifth Column” essay in light of how Donald Trump talks about his political opponents. Bonus Question: Please discuss the Bush Administration’s assaults on the UN weapons inspectors in the context of the Trump Administration’s assaults on the credibility of the FBI?

4) In one sentence or less, please describe the political style and impact on the nation of the following: Newt Gingrich, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, Richard Mellon Scaife, the Mercer family, the Koch Family, the Bradley Family. Please include details of the positive contributions of each of these to the political life of the nation.

5) True or False: Ronald Reagan was correct in referring to Michael Dukakis as a “mental patient” from a White House podium.

6) Please explain, in detail, all efforts you made within the Republican Party during election seasons, to counter the influence of radical conservative splinter Protestantism on the party’s policies toward the following: reproductive rights, public schools, the rights of LGBTQ citizens. Bonus Question: Please write in detail the complaints you made when gay marriage bans were specifically targeted.

7) In 1983, Ronald Reagan told Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir that he personally had been part of a film crew at the liberation of the concentration camps in Europe. In 2018, Donald Trump said he wished he’d have been in Parkland, Florida so he could have rushed school shooter Nikolas Cruz. Compare and contrast.

😎 Ronald Reagan once said that, “Trees cause more pollution than humans do.” Donald Trump once tweeted that, during a cold snap, the “East Coast could use a little of that global warming.” Compare and Contrast.

9) Given your concern about ratfcking in political campaigns, please explain all the steps you took to fight the Republican party’s voter-suppression campaign in Florida in 2000.

10) Please explain how close you came to resigning from the party when George W. Bush’s campaign slandered John McCain’s child during the 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina.

11) Please explain in detail how you pushed back against the lies and half-truths lobbed at Al Gore during the 2000 presidential campaign. Please define the salience to the 2000 campaign of the following phrases: Love Canal, Internet, Fairfax Hotel, Love Story.

12) True Or False: Bill Clinton ran drugs out of a small airport in rural Arkansas.

13) True or False: Bill Clinton had two teenagers murdered along a set of railroad tracks in rural Arkansas.

14) True or False: White House counsel Vince Foster’s death was “mysterious.”

And, finally, write a 500-word essay on one of the following topics:

1) Donald Trump’s attempted politicization of the Justice Department is different than Karl Rove’s attempted politicization of the Justice Department.

2) Donald Trump’s corrupt Cabinet is different than Ronald Reagan’s corrupt Cabinet.

3) Michael Cohen is a thug while Karl Rove is a visionary political philosophe.

You have two hours.

Begin.

Edit: Wilson was working for Rubio until he got smashed under the Trump juggernaut 

Edited July 1, 2020 by cactusflinthead

[Voldemort86 2259]

37 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Exactly how I feel, verbatim.

He'll have a competent staff. He will let the experts be experts and won't politicize things that, for the greater good, should not be politicized (IE the CDC). He will listen to people. He will read his fucking daily briefings even if they don't mention his name enough.

Good enough for me.

Also.......

the rate of news and craziness should slow way down.