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I am so thrilled tonight! I spoke with my mom and asked her how my dad was taking the election. She said after every network declared Biden the winner, he turned off Fox News and said “Well, glad t

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This was my experience in Galveston County, except for one thing. I came in and presented my ID to the geriatric at the front who printed out my pin number. I took my pin number to a table where two B

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Good news coming out of Florida.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/15/florida-mail-in-voting-trump-362519
 

Florida GOP is even lying to their constituents by twisting Trumps tweets to make their base sign up to vote by mail. 

“Today, 423,000 more Florida Democrats than Republicans are signed up to receive absentee ballots, according to the Florida Democratic Party. The Republican Party did not dispute the number.” 

 

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28 minutes ago, The Dog said:

In all seriousness, Stepien is a pro. That said, Trump has to actually....you know...LISTEN to his advisors for that to matter.

I think it's probably at least 95% likely that Trump hired Stepien to make Trump's messaging and strategy work, not to change the messaging and strategy. The guy thinks everything is everyone else's fault. Parscale almost certainly got fired because he wasn't "making Trump's ideas resonate with polled voters" or some bullshit like that. 

The idea that Trump realizes he's at fault and so is changing directions is almost inconceivable. And unlike Vizzini, I know what that word means. 

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5 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Talked today with a high level exec that usually votes Republican under the false premise that they are better for business and the economy.  For the first time in 3 and a half years, today he said he doesn't think he'll vote for Trump. He will just stay home. He may be full of shit, but it was encouraging to at least finally hear a selfish Republican elite finally crack a bit.  Trump is such a disaster, it's getting almost impossible for people to continue to be fooled by the right media propaganda.  Let's hope this trend continues.

when it stinks so bad even the liars are complaining. 

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9 hours ago, The Dog said:

In all seriousness, Stepien is a pro. That said, Trump has to actually....you know...LISTEN to his advisors for that to matter.

No he’s not. He’s a second tier Jersey GOP party hack, who was nuts deep in bridgegate  And he’s an unskewer. 

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6 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

No he’s not. He’s a second tier Jersey GOP party hack, who was nuts deep in bridgegate  And he’s an unskewer. 

That has been my take on him and several others that are littered throughout the Parties. Little Rove wannabes for whom ethics is an alien concept. I understand there are dirty politics but there's dirty and then there's real dirty and the line to the Dark Side was crossed quite some time ago. It should be an outlier but instead it is the norm. Maybe we need to bring back duels. If some of the squirrelly people had to genuinely lay their life on the line for their principles, then perhaps they would select a different profession. It's a horrid concept, but we have no real punishment for the upper class that they cannot escape.

 

Apologies for the dark mood today. I sense a storm coming and the lanai/ledge is the place to be.

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1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

No he’s not. He’s a second tier Jersey GOP party hack, who was nuts deep in bridgegate  And he’s an unskewer. 

So how does he compare to Parscale? From what I read he'd be an improvement (assuming Trump listens to him). I know about the bridgegate stuff, but what about his ability to run a campaign?

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1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

That has been my take on him and several others that are littered throughout the Parties. Little Rove wannabes for whom ethics is an alien concept. I understand there are dirty politics but there's dirty and then there's real dirty and the line to the Dark Side was crossed quite some time ago. It should be an outlier but instead it is the norm. Maybe we need to bring back duels. If some of the squirrelly people had to genuinely lay their life on the line for their principles, then perhaps they would select a different profession. It's a horrid concept, but we have no real punishment for the upper class that they cannot escape.

 

Apologies for the dark mood today. I sense a storm coming and the lanai/ledge is the place to be.

Welcome to our team.

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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

So how does he compare to Parscale? From what I read he'd be an improvement (assuming Trump listens to him). I know about the bridgegate stuff, but what about his ability to run a campaign?

He was Christie’s campaign guy.  I mean he’s run a campaign before, but Parscale was in the inner circle of Trump’s first campaign. There’s tons of guys in DC like him.  It doesn’t mean they know what they are doing.  I mean, Bob Shrum never win shit, but he got to hang around the DNC for decades, suckling off the system.

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14 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

It is. But so many of these people have thoroughly convinced themselves that a president Biden will usher in a socialist revolution. My parents are two such people. There's no chance they'll ever vote D (they wouldn't even if I was the D nominee for president), so I'm just hoping they'll sit out the election and at least not cancel out my vote. 

A know a woman who ran for Senate in Nebraska.  She was raised in a small town in rural Nebraska.  Her father is a Republican, and she was running for the Dem nomination.  He said he would vote for her should she win the nomination, but he wasn't going to change his registration to Dem to vote for her in the primary.  He had been registered for x number of decades, and continuing that streak was more important to him than supporting his daughter, who he claimed he preferred over the Republican Senator (Sasse).  This is about teams, not policy. 

19 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Even if it is that does nothing to help him. We could be vaccinated tomorrow and it wouldn’t be enough time for the economy and normalcy to bounce back, nor for people to forget they really don’t like him and have no real problems with Biden. 

The thing about an early development of a vaccine is that it is completely out of line with everything the President has been pushing.  If he had told Americans to sit tight for a year, minimize contact, and hold out for a vaccine, then it makes sense that he would be vindicated.  Instead, he told people it would disappear on its own.  He was clear that the economy was more important than fighting the disease.  I don't know if he ever said it directly, but certainly others in the Republican Party pushed the idea that the only path through was just to go on as normal, and eventually herd immunity (from everyone catching it) would cure it.  The sooner a vaccine is developed, the more evident that this malpractice has costed 10's of thousands of lives that could have been saved had we just put a greater priority on slowing the virus.  

I don't expect Trumpstains, or even the casual voter, to see it that way.  I'm sure that a quick vaccine development will reduce fear, which helps the incumbent.  But, for fucks sake, they killed a bunch of people do just to get a limping economy to move a little faster. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Calihorn said:
 
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I mean, it's still a red state. It's fundamentally different from a Pennsylvania or Michigan, or even Florida or NC, in that regard.

You and Nate are well versed in being wet blankets.

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You and Nate are well versed in being wet blankets.

Lol, not at all how I meant it. He's still leading there, which is a pretty solid indicator that he's winning by a fuckton overall. Plus it's really Trump's numbers moving. Biden's been pretty consistently high 40s low 50s. Just some Republicans coming around. And Trump is still losing. Knowing that, I don't think the tenor of the race has changed much. It was never gonna end up Biden +8, +9 like we were seeing in a few polls there. It's been a slight but consistent Biden lead. In a R +5 state that's fantastic.

 

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uh, did anyone just see hogan gidley on cnn?

i give credit to brianna keilar for not just hanging up on him and saying he had technical difficulties.

i guess letting people like this go on and on and make their case is what makes people mad at cnn, but i think watching this makes it worse for voters they're trying to win.  everything is a lie, a twist, a spin, a media conspiracy.  it's all finger-pointing and placing blame on others.  all the media is making biden's case for him while he hides in his bunker.  trump's campaign has raised more money than anyone has ever seen or even considered thinking about.  biden has apparently been running the country for 50 years and gotten nothing done.

and biden's america would basically be thunderdome-style post-apocalyptic mayhem.

i'm sure clips will be online soon. 

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57 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

wat

He's the smart one..... The black sheep.  He actually believes in climate change and has heavily criticized his family's outlets for stoking opposition to it.  Lachlan is more like Rupert and has taken over and will run Fox completely when R dies.

 

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3 hours ago, Tuco said:

A know a woman who ran for Senate in Nebraska.  She was raised in a small town in rural Nebraska.  Her father is a Republican, and she was running for the Dem nomination.  He said he would vote for her should she win the nomination, but he wasn't going to change his registration to Dem to vote for her in the primary.  He had been registered for x number of decades, and continuing that streak was more important to him than supporting his daughter, who he claimed he preferred over the Republican Senator (Sasse).  This is about teams, not policy.

Not surprising considering the sellout tickets of Memorial Stadium record. People will chance pneumonia to continue that streak.

Shame her father can't separate football devotion from public service.

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18 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

He's the smart one..... The black sheep.  He actually believes in climate change and has heavily criticized his family's outlets for stoking opposition to it.  Lachlan is more like Rupert and has taken over and will run Fox completely when R dies.

 

Ah, I thought there was only one.

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36 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

uh, did anyone just see hogan gidley on cnn?

i give credit to brianna keilar for not just hanging up on him and saying he had technical difficulties.

i guess letting people like this go on and on and make their case is what makes people mad at cnn, but i think watching this makes it worse for voters they're trying to win.  everything is a lie, a twist, a spin, a media conspiracy.  it's all finger-pointing and placing blame on others.  all the media is making biden's case for him while he hides in his bunker.  trump's campaign has raised more money than anyone has ever seen or even considered thinking about.  biden has apparently been running the country for 50 years and gotten nothing done.

and biden's america would basically be thunderdome-style post-apocalyptic mayhem.

i'm sure clips will be online soon. 

Nope, but he has a punchable face for sure.

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1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Lachlan is the oldest and his dad sent him to apprentice at a paper when he was 18. There are two or three older sisters and two(?) younger sisters. Rupert's been married three or four times so not all are from the same wife.

Explain it to me in "Succession"

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