2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]

[Bozo_Casanova 26460]

15 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Going after Republicans is a bad play.

 

depressing R turnout and identification is a good one though. IOW - they are failing to account for people who are no longer Republican. 

Edited August 25, 2020 by Bozo_Casanova

[kevwun 15788]

Yes, the Republican party is a like a bucket of saltwater left out in the sun.  The water evaporates and the water gets saltier, but the bucket is no longer full.

[safe sex 11727]

3 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

That was my first fear as a gun owner, not gun nut. I fall closer to  @Brisketexan as I have a safe popping at the seams, but don’t feel the need to masturbate to them.   That said, I think I am going to purchase a few more geared towards protection rather than wing shooting. Not because of the mobs today, but because of what the mobs may be 10 years from now.  I don’t see things getting better for awhile. 
 

ETA: glad to see more aa’s purchasing firearms. People exercising their rights jumps aisles imo. 

You have a safe popping at the seam but need to buy a "few more" just for protection? 

[fattyflattie 4639]

16 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

You have a safe popping at the seam but need to buy a "few more" just for protection? 

I have lots of deer rifles, and over under shotguns.  Most are AAA+ wood.   And a dozen or so rifles passed down to my from grandfathers that I never was able to meet.  Several of those are 80+ years old and might not ever get fired for the rest of my life.  I hunt and shoot sporting clays, and have family heirlooms.  So basically a lot of arms that are good at holding 1-5 rounds, and being very intricate.  Additionally, it doesn't take long for a family of 5 to fill up even the largest of safes.  

So while yes, I've got a handful of arms, I don't have what you'd want if you were trying to defend yourself from anything more than a break in.  I've never really felt the need to have anything other than sporting arms.  You watch these videos, and see the tweets about making a difference by heading to the suburbs.  I think at some point, that's going to happen.  Even more likely if you live in an affluent area.  I don't think we are going to be able to reign in the police anytime soon; I think we will be dealing with this shit decades from now.  I'd rather have something purpose built that never gets used for the rest of my life, than to not have it if ever needed. My point was it may be time to grab a few where I don't have to worry about dinging a 2k dollar custom stock trying to get it out the safe.  Obviously 5mm people have had similar feelings.  That or the clay courses are about to get alot more crowded.   

I completely understand people have other feelings on the subject.  

[thepop 4409]

 

[Ghost of LL 15531]

21 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Biden up in Texas 48-47, public policy polling. 5 of last 8 polls show him with a lead in Texas. Get on the train.

 

I strongly think Biden needs to make a play for Texas to deal with the post-election fall-out.

In states that have large vote-by-mail turnouts, the results are going to be delayed.  And that's going to give Trump time to claim that votes that are received by mail are less valid.

But Texas--as we well know--is very restrictive on vote-by-mail.  So whatever the result in Texas, we're likely to know on Election Night.

If Biden wins Texas, then it's fucking over.  It. Is. Fucking. Over.  There is no scenario in which Trump loses Texas and wins the Electoral College.  

A win in Texas would short-circuit all of the post-election drama.  I'm sure Trump would still bitch about the election being "rigged" and file a bunch of litigation.  But it would lack any credibility.  You lost fucking Texas.

Guys--and I'm amazed to be saying this--but Texas may be the most important state in this election.

4 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Going after Republicans is a bad play.

 

You assume that there are an equal number of Republicans.  That is false.

The Republican Party has no platform.  It has one position: elect Trump.  With that as its only guiding principle, it's amazing that there are 5% of Republicans who say they're voting for Biden.

Here's your real question--of the people who identified as Republican in 2008 and 2016, how many are voting for Biden.  I bet you it's a fuck-ton more than 8%.

[thepop 4409]

 

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1298335214322749440?s=20

[bad_teammate 13195]

I'm not presuming the numbers are equal at all.

Republicans leaving the party doesn't mean Biden is making them Democrats. It doesn't even mean that Democratic overtures are working. It seems to just mean that they hate Trump.

 

[lemonlime 5503]

On 8/19/2020 at 4:44 PM, GRHorn said:

This will be interesting to follow for comparison sake vs RNC. Has to be considered a measure of enthusiasm right?

 

A sign of enthusiasm, right?

[G650 14256]

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

It seems to just mean that they hate Trump.

You are finally starting to get it.

[mchookem 16336]

46 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

A sign of enthusiasm, right?

for real? AHHAHAHAHA 🤣

i mean, normal people don't really give a shit. but HE does. at least he did. 🤣🤣🤣

Guilfoyle may have been a blessing for them... that freakshow has gotten so much play today more people may watch just to see whatever the fuck else is gonna happen...

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by mchookem

[Voldemort86 2259]

53 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

A sign of enthusiasm, right?

MAGA MOTHERFUCKERS!

[GRHorn 105]

51 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

A sign of enthusiasm, right?

Interesting. 28% down from 2016. Same as Ds. I’m sure you’ll get chastised for that oversight. Also I couldn’t find streaming numbers on twitter other than the CSpan numbers. 

[gmr548 16580]

Interesting. 28% down from 2016. Same as Ds. I’m sure you’ll get chastised for that oversight.

It's almost like it wasn't an oversight and people made/are making fun of you because there is some obvious non-political factor driving the numbers down.

Nah, can't be.

[Irieguy 1059]

40 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Interesting. 28% down from 2016. Same as Ds. I’m sure you’ll get chastised for that oversight. Also I couldn’t find streaming numbers on twitter other than the CSpan numbers. 

I must have missed where Trump spoke at Day 1 of the RNC in 2016. Not sure why we would compare 2016 to 2020 if he didn’t. 

[bad_teammate 13195]

1 hour ago, G650 said:

You are finally starting to get it.

Nothing new here.

They hate Trump and are temporarily not Republicans. As soon as some bloodless ghoul like Hawley shows up and reads off a teleprompter about how it is noble to demand black single mothers to work 3 jobs to preserve the moral fabric of the nation and to make abortions impossible those exact same people will become Republicans at the drop of a hat.

Meanwhile, the Democrats will have purposefully alienated their youth progressive base chasing people who hate them.

[Texaspython 231]

Where are these young progressives going to go? Maybe they’ll grow up a little and understand only getting what you want is for babies.

Watching progressives throw a temper tantrum for not getting everything they want and losing more elections is not new. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

 

[Voldemort86 2259]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Nothing new here.

They hate Trump and are temporarily not Republicans. As soon as some bloodless ghoul like Hawley shows up and reads off a teleprompter about how it is noble to demand black single mothers to work 3 jobs to preserve the moral fabric of the nation and to make abortions impossible those exact same people will become Republicans at the drop of a hat.

Meanwhile, the Democrats will have purposefully alienated their youth progressive base chasing people who hate them.

Progressives need to learn patience.

lets all get rid of trump first then sort the rest out.

 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

Progressives bitching right now is like a cancer patient telling the surgeon not to remove the tumor because they want to get liposuction first. 

Edited August 26, 2020 by totallynotabuttpirate

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Progressives can vote in this election to gain more Dem seats before a redistricting year. More Dem maps gives them a better chance 

[gmr548 16580]

Progressives bitching right now is like a cancer patient telling the surgeon not to remove the tumor because they want to get liposuction first. 

TBF I'm feeling pretty soft having not been to the gym in five months

[High Plains Drifter 11049]

On 8/24/2020 at 9:15 PM, GRHorn said:

I would submit that people that feel compelled to buy a gun for the first time in 2020 are most often doing it for self defense or defending their family.
 

Why would there be a surge in people feeling the need to take their defense into their own hands? 🤔 🧐 

 

Is there one side in particular that has looked the other way when it comes to destructive citizens or the loss of “law and order”? 

Or is there any one side that wants to “defund the police”?

Perhaps people that feel newly compelled to defend themselves would be less likely to vote for a party that tacitly supports what is happening?

Maybe you can put the pieces together. 

 

If I were black, or jewish, or a child of immigrants, or basically anything other than the old white guy I am, and i didn't own a gun 4 years ago, I'm pretty damned sure I would have bought one (or more) in the last 3 or 4 years.

 

[High Plains Drifter 11049]

On 8/24/2020 at 2:55 PM, Ted Lange said:

 

 

 

somebody correct my math, but if Biden wins Florida, then the rest of those states on that list don't matter, right?

 

[Bruh Man 3160]

 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Bruh Man

[Guest Lobo]

Great job four unrelated foreign bots.  You get to register Republican for those all important GOP primaries in September.  Oh wait.  
 

how sad is it though that foreign bots tweet with better grammar than our President?

[SilasCoade 2622]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

Progressives can vote in this election to gain more Dem seats before a redistricting year. More Dem maps gives them a better chance 

hahahahahahaha

[Ted Lange 16085]

Speaking of bots... anyone remember the “TCU FAN” that showed up 9 month prior to the ‘16 election on the shag, spamming Trump BS, then completely disappeared once the election was over?

[Ted Lange 16085]

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Great job four unrelated foreign bots.  You get to register Republican for those all important GOP primaries in September.  Oh wait.  
 
how sad is it though that foreign bots tweet with better grammar than our President?

More than just four -

[Bama Chick 28596]

A sign of enthusiasm, right?

[Ted Lange 16085]

Low ratings?  Don, Eric and Tiff about to be disowned.   DOTARD gonna discard them like his 1st and 2nd wives. 

[4th&Five 41552]

 

[gmr548 16580]

Nothing new here.
They hate Trump and are temporarily not Republicans. As soon as some bloodless ghoul like Hawley shows up and reads off a teleprompter about how it is noble to demand black single mothers to work 3 jobs to preserve the moral fabric of the nation and to make abortions impossible those exact same people will become Republicans at the drop of a hat.
Meanwhile, the Democrats will have purposefully alienated their youth progressive base chasing people who hate them.

This. No one should delude themselves. These voters will go home in 2022 and 2024, especially if Democrats win the trifecta and actually get a couple things done.

For this cycle, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, though. Bigger fish to fry.

[The Dog 44051]

It's strange seeing complaints about people supporting a candidate when the election has yet to occur. 

[The Dog 44051]

Nice analysis from 538: Is the Electoral Map Changing?

tl;dr versioin:

States that moved red in 2016: Iowa, Ohio, Maine, Michigan

States that moved slightly red in 2016: Minnesota, Nevada, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Wisconsin

State that moved blue in 2016: Arizona, Georgia, Texas

Slight blue in 2016: Colorado, Virginia

Swing states: North Carolina

Don't know what the fuck they are doing: Florida (ok they are swing but you know what I mean)

[RPM 26321]

An asteroid will pass extremely close to Earth the day before the election

Talk about no sense of timing. It's either a day early or 4 years late.

[Red Five 40858]

8 minutes ago, RPM said:

An asteroid will pass extremely close to Earth the day before the election

Talk about no sense of timing. It's either a day early or 4 years late.

It's about the size of your refrigerator. Even if it "hit" us it wouldn't make it through the atmosphere. 

[Dbeasy 15051]

This race is likely to come down to Wisconsin. Will Kenosha firmly swing the state to one side or the other? Could argue it both ways.

[Aqua Buddha 14596]

If Biden wins AZ then WI doesn't matter.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Wisconsin was trending slightly Democratic in the early 2000s until Scott Walker came in and went scorched earth. They've always been more right leaning but I would say it wasn't excessively so. They had a history of progressiveness that seemed to occupy a sense of pride. I'd say that went the way of the WH pandemic binder. We'll see if the electorate can right the ship, but I sure as hell wouldn't trust the GOP not to do what they did during their recent election.

[Continental Op 3934]

40 minutes ago, RPM said:

An asteroid will pass extremely close to Earth the day before the election

Talk about no sense of timing. It's either a day early or 4 years late.

Antifa sent this asteroid to destroy freedom and capitalism and disrespect the flag! Vote Trump! 

[LurkingHorn 1066]

19 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This race is likely to come down to Wisconsin. Will Kenosha firmly swing the state to one side or the other? Could argue it both ways.

I really don't think so. This map could easily happen and I think it's Trump's best case scenario at this point:

Edited August 26, 2020 by LurkingHorn

[GRHorn 105]

This data surprised me. 
 

 

Biden outperforming Hillary in just one battleground state at the same point in the race (FL).

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

 

[LurkingHorn 1066]

5 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

This data surprised me. 
 

 

Biden outperforming Hillary in just one battleground state at the same point in the race (FL).

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

 

This was posted a couple pages back. @Storm the Field had a pretty good explanation of the data and why it seems closer compared to 2016. 

[GRHorn 105]

Just now, LurkingHorn said:

This was posted a couple pages back. @Storm the Field had a pretty good explanation of the data and why it seems closer compared to 2016. 

Thanks I’ll look back. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

3 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

This data surprised me. 
 

 

Biden outperforming Hillary in just one battleground state at the same point in the race (FL).

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

 

while shitty, one thing is that last time republicans said they weren't going to vote for him, https://time.com/4546942/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-lead-poll/, but they actually did.  now, trump has 96% approval among republicans (Thank you!) and he is still losing.  there isn't anywhere for him to get those extra votes.

[Hank Kingsley 20939]

5 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

This data surprised me. 
 

 

Biden outperforming Hillary in just one battleground state at the same point in the race (FL).

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

 

There were a lot more undecideds at this point in 2016.  We won't see that kind of volatility this time around. 

But good to know leftist hack Walker Bragman's concern trolling was picked up by Republicans. 

 

[Dbeasy 15051]

I really don't think so. This map could easily happen and I think it's Trump's best case scenario at this point:

AZ and NM not necessarily in the bag for Biden.

[Pig Bellmont 8718]

20 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

This data surprised me. 
 

 

Biden outperforming Hillary in just one battleground state at the same point in the race (FL).

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

 

Never mind that Trump is now an incumbent running for re-election. Also ignores 2018 results. But I’m sure everything is fine and the average American isn’t offended by crime, corruption, and blatant lies from the current administration. Why even attempt to reach out to moderates? Just invite QAnon supporters to speak at the convention while winking at a racist who called Obama a monkey. You’re doing great.